Bad news for Ram Srt10 Truck owners

[venom505]

"Ram Srt10 trucks will not be allowed to join the VOA nationally as full members". Voted down 1 to 28 at board of directors meeting 12/12/13. Not to be disrespectful to any board members but with 800+ club members shouldn't this be a members vote?

[Voice of Reason]

It's not called SRT Owners Association. One shared component does not a car make, otherwise maybe we should let Dart owners in, I share their nav/touch screen.

[Space Truckin]

"Ram Srt10 trucks will not be allowed to join the VOA nationally as full members". Voted down 1 to 28 at board of directors meeting 12/12/13. Not to be disrespectful to any board members but with 800+ club members shouldn't this be a members vote?

[Allan]

It's not called SRT Owners Association. One shared component does not a car make, otherwise maybe we should let Dart owners in, I share their nav/touch screen.

Yeah......exactly.

Besides, don't they have their own thing going anyway?

[DrTaco]

I agree/support the decision. It has NOTHING to do with a "my car is better than yours" mentality either, simply when I come to this forum I want to exchange info on VIPERS. I do not want to do a forum search on a problem I'm having and come up with solutions for SRT4s, Rams or SRT8s. No biggie. If I ever buy a Ram one of the first things I will do is to join one of those dedicated forums as well.

[BlknBlu]

My vote came from a result of polling the members in the region. I left the decision up to them.

Bruce

[daytonprowler]

Check with your Regional President for associate memberships for Viper Truck owners.

We here in Ohio welcome Viper Truck owners as associate members. We don't care where they are from. either contact me daytonprowler@yahoo.com or our Ohio club secretary Janey White at wwhite82@aol.com .

This year we will also be featuring some of our member's Viper trucks in our annual Ohio Viper Club calendar.

[ViperTony]

I voted in favor of it. It's a Viper truck from the factory. Then again, the V.O.A doesn't stand for "Viper Owner's Sports Car Association" either for those of you that want to get technical. Viper Trucks will be allowed as associate members in the NY/CT region. We welcome fellow Viper brothers and sisters even in truck form.

[XSnake]

All truck guys that are wanting to join should contact their regions president and finding out how they are handling it.

[Nine Ball]

Excluding anyone that wants to participate within a paid car club is simply ignorant. The club should be for Viper fanatics, owning a Viper shouldn't be mandatory. Seems elitist and unwelcoming, in my opinion.

[FLATOUT]

What's wrong with an associate membership? This is the Viper club, a Viper Truck is a Hybrid Viper platform so it seems to me that an associate membership fits the nature of the difference just fine.

I don't know I don't really see anything wrong with the decision it's not like anyone said the Trucks weren't welcome.

[Nine Ball]

The fact that the board voted 1 to 28 against this topic tells me that old VCA habits are hard to break. I thought this club was going to be different? There are shops and numerous guys that modify those SRT-10 trucks, maybe even more than most Viper owners. That wealth of technical info gets shown the door?

[Janni]

The fact that the board voted 1 to 28 against this topic tells me that old VCA habits are hard to break. I thought this club was going to be different? There are shops and numerous guys that modify those SRT-10 trucks, maybe even more than most Viper owners. That wealth of technical info gets shown the door?

Not fair. It's a Viper car club. That has not changed.

I am personally a little tired of anytime someone sees a democratic decision that is posted / shared that does not go their way - they raise the "you are the VCA flag".

We are different. In many ways. And having the Presidents vote on this as the board of directors is one way we're different. Posting the meeting minutes in 48 hours is another. I am sorry it didn't go the way you wanted, but that doesn't mean we're ignorant.

I suspect several regions will be having Truck owners as associate members.

Janni - out

I'll say no more on this.

[RedTanRT/10]

It's not called SRT Owners Association. One shared component does not a car make, otherwise maybe we should let Dart owners in, I share their nav/touch screen.

Those trucks and branded and badged "viper"

Should be allowed to have a full membership and their own forum

[Nine Ball]

I am personally a little tired of anytime someone sees a democratic decision that is posted / shared that does not go their way - they raise the "you are the VCA flag".

Actions speak louder than words.

I'll say no more on this.

Like this action. Can't even have a discussion about something, but prefers to tell it like it is. I thought this was a club, I don't need another boss.

[Sam Goldfarb]

[All negative comments have been removed by author! It is juvenile, not funny and makes the VOA look bad. The VOA reserves all rights to make itself look bad!

[XSnake]

Should be allowed to have a full membership and their own forum

They do have their own forum

http://driveviper.com/forums/forums/79-Viper-Trucking

[Sybil TF]

I don't need another boss.

[XSnake]

Like this action. Can't even have a discussion about something, but prefers to tell it like it is. I thought this was a club, I don't need another boss.

Looks like a 15 page discussion here: http://driveviper.com/forums/threads...ighlight=truck

Same OP as this thread, hmm...

[Nine Ball]

I belong to a few different paid car clubs also, SAM.(btw, text size is fine as-is)

We do not discourage enthusiasts of those model car clubs from joining, regardless of what they own. If someone is a Camaro fanatic, and wants to participate in the club and meet the members, we encourage them to come out. We do not act elitist and tell the non-owners that they cannot be a part of the club. Some of them are saving up for the cars, some are previous owners who are still fans. The Viper trucks say Viper on them, last time I checked. Your T-bird doesn't say "Mustang" on it, anywhere. Your 1997 Dodge truck doesn't say "Viper" on it, either.

I was hoping for a more relaxed atmosphere, a place that would embrace ALL those who love everything Viper. Not just those who are fortunate to own them.

[ViperTony]

If you don't get your way then it's the same old stuff? I was just waiting for this mentality to surface! How long before the cry babies start asking for a new club? Oh, and the fact that the Presidents got to vote at all can't be an old habit as they NEVER were allowed to vote in the past for any National issue! What wealth of technical information crosses over to a Viper from a truck other than engine mods?

I have many other cars. I have Corvettes, I can't join a Camaro Club. They share far more parts than an engine. I also can't join a Corvette Club with a Camaro. I have a Corvette engine in a 46 Ford Coupe, can't join the Corvette Club or the Ford club! My Tbird won't let me into a Mustang Club same engine and many other parts! I also own a 1997 Dodge 1/2 ton PU with a Gen I Viper engine and an automatic transmission, probably can't join the Ram SRT10 club with that? Has anyone ever asked to join the Ram SRT10 club with a Viper?

We welcome Ram SRT10 trucks at all of our events here in Ohio, not sure they belong on a track with a Viper, just my opinion.

It's NOT the VPA&TOA, Viper Powered Autos & Trucks Owners Association

Any possibility you can tone down the bold screaming letters in your posts? Relax.

[Brian GTS]

Not fair. It's a Viper car club. That has not changed.

I am personally a little tired of anytime someone sees a democratic decision that is posted / shared that does not go their way - they raise the "you are the VCA flag".

We are different. In many ways. And having the Presidents vote on this as the board of directors is one way we're different. Posting the meeting minutes in 48 hours is another. I am sorry it didn't go the way you wanted, but that doesn't mean we're ignorant.

I suspect several regions will be having Truck owners as associate members.

Janni - out

I'll say no more on this.

Correct Janni. To make the comparison with the VCA is very unfair. This was a democratic decision executed properly....not just votes from a few National board members. All regional Presidents voted. A completely democratic and fair decision.

[ViperTony]

Correct Janni. To make the comparison with the VCA is very unfair. This was a democratic decision executed properly....not just votes from a few National board members. All regional Presidents voted. A completely democratic and fair decision.

Agreed 100%. This vote would've never seen the light of day over there let alone allow all region presidents to have a say/vote. Even though it didn't turn out as I had hoped it would the process was fair and transparent.

[Nine Ball]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't all current presidents elected during their tenure at the VCA? As far as I know, VOA officer elections haven't happened yet. In that situation, maybe the "democratic" method should have been to extend the vote to all VOA members, via poll. At least until VOA elections are completed.

Look at my post count. I participate and contribute a lot of my time and knowledge on this site. I want it to be successful. Don't be afraid to expand your way of thinking, the VCA did very little well. I'd like to see something fresh, with minimal politics. Back to focusing on the cars and enthusiasts that love them.

Tony

[Sam Goldfarb]

All negative comments have been removed by author! It is juvenile, not funny and makes the VOA look bad. The VOA reserves all rights to make itself look bad!