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    Cool First Gen 5 Viper in the 10s!

    They say the Viper isn't built for drag racing. That being said, I'm still the first one to run 10s in a Gen 5 Viper, as of today

    Read the full story here: http://motorhed.com/xf/threads/first...-the-10s.6239/

    Whew! That was a lot of driving.

    Tony

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    Well done. Congrats!

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    Nice, so what was the solution for the IAT issues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperSmith View Post
    Nice, so what was the solution for the IAT issues?
    Race in cold weather at a track rental . Just kidding, congrats Tony great driving. Was this on stock rubber or drag radials?

    Never mind just read on Motorhed it was on a drag radial. Great runs, glad to see the car took the abuse no problem.
    Last edited by FLATOUT; 12-15-2013 at 07:50 PM.

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    That's doing some good work, right there.

    Congrats on the accomplishment!

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    Totally sweet!

    ......are you gonna need a new clutch after that?

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    27 passes, wow!

    I have had a few days with 15,16,17 passes but never that many! Good job!

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    Man you really had to develop a feel for launching it just right!
    Nice job.

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    Great driving. Was a little cold today, but not too bad. Maybe a little bit faster if it was 5 degrees colder. Great video. Thanks for sharing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperSmith View Post
    Nice, so what was the solution for the IAT issues?
    No solution. Just 50f temps outside. I never let the car idle, and did 50 mph on the return road to keep radiator cool.

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    Congrats! Beautiful Viper.

    Curious on driving around the water box and not doing a more complete burnout to warm up the drag radials? I've heard that was a good technique on stock tires but not on the DR's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allan View Post
    Totally sweet!

    ......are you gonna need a new clutch after that?
    Nah. It heals itself when you let it cool. I got my number, and set the bar high. No need to take this one drag racing again. Back to road racing.

    Tony

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocket View Post
    Congrats! Beautiful Viper.

    Curious on driving around the water box and not doing a more complete burnout to warm up the drag radials? I've heard that was a good technique on stock tires but not on the DR's?
    I treated these more like regular radials. 27-28 psi also. Burnouts heat the clutch up too much, had to manage that heat in order to save it for the launch, instead.

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    Awesome runs.

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    Congratulations and nice driving. The clutch coming back is very interesting.

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    Did it best 130 mph?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newport Viper View Post
    Did it best 130 mph?
    129.38 was highest mph. It would run 128-129 when cool, then do 127 when hot-lapping it.

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    I wonder if a clutch/flywheel assembly better suited for hard launches would get you down to 10.7? Wasn't BBG working on something like that?

    Either way, awesome driving and congrats. I bet you wouldn't have had near as much fun had the car been an auto and it just did it first try.

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    Better clutch/fly might make it easier to launch, but I don't see times improving much. 1.67 60' times are pretty difficult to hit on a radial tire, manual trans, independent axle car. The trans could use a more aggressive 1st gear ratio. The 2.26 gear isn't good for drag racing, the previous gens had 2.66 first gear ratios, easier to launch.

    I added the external video of the pass to the original article, btw. You can see my clutch smoke pretty clearly on it. LOL

    Tony

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    Congrats Tony...you are THE MAN!! Was your pretty Viper driving wife with you, and did she do any runs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by F2V View Post
    Congrats Tony...you are THE MAN!! Was your pretty Viper driving wife with you, and did she do any runs?
    Too cold for her, haha. She doesn't drive it as hard as I do, except on the highways. I drive like a grandpa on the highway, and hard at the track.

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    Great run , Tony ---respect the thought process of driving like a grandpa on the highway , and letting loose on the track ( right place to do it )!

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    Great job Tony! you are a brave GenV owner for sure ;-) Can't wait to see what a car with Headers will do, we definitely need you or Jack on them to get a worthy number. Nice video also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nine Ball View Post
    Better clutch/fly might make it easier to launch, but I don't see times improving much. 1.67 60' times are pretty difficult to hit on a radial tire, manual trans, independent axle car. The trans could use a more aggressive 1st gear ratio. The 2.26 gear isn't good for drag racing, the previous gens had 2.66 first gear ratios, easier to launch.

    I added the external video of the pass to the original article, btw. You can see my clutch smoke pretty clearly on it. LOL

    Tony
    You know, I drove a Gen IV with stock gearing and I may be alone on this island, but I really felt SRT should have kept that gearing. It results in good 0-150 times (I know, I know, but it is good advertising) and it just felt right on the low end. The Gen IV has run 10's on street tires weighing more with less power so maybe it would make the car better. Anyways, just my opinion. I don't even think swapping the transmission and final drive gear to the 2010 design can be done anyways with the PCM how it is, so I guess we'll never know.

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    I blame the weaksauce 0-60 mph bench racers for our crappy first gear. They did it so that the Gen 5 could achieve 60 mph without having to shift. I'd much rather have the 2010 gear set, even with the current 3.55 rear gears. Trans swap wouldn't be a big deal, the car reads mph from the wheel speed sensors, not trans.

    Mark J: Find me a header sponsor and I'll do a full install write-up and dyno, track test etc.


 
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