Gen V engine issues. Question for those that have had one.

[BJG32]

Curious if anybody else has had this issue and if it went down like this...

I have 2014 GTS. Changed the oil at 500 miles. Currently 3500 on the clock.

I was sitting at a stop light today and the car just dies. I try and restart and it just flashes the dash lights quick and makes a feeble attempt to start. I try about 5 times and the same thing. A guy helps me roll it to the a parking lot. I make another attempt to start but the car sounds awful. squeaking (not belt...like metal) and engine knocking. 5 minutes before this I was at the gas station and happened to check oil levels. Color and level was good. I spun a bearing on my 2004 last year and this sounds exactly the same.

Anybody have this happen? Could it be something else? .... I am prepared for the spun bearing news, but just not sure how that could have happened??? zero missed shifts just driving normal down a 45 mph roll. Car literally died after being at stop for 15 seconds and no signs of noises or knocking before it died.

Only thing altered is hi-flow cats.

If it does end up needing a rebuild does anyone know if Dodge would cover shipping to Woodhouse? I am sure Dodge will want it done right the first time. Also, anybody have an issue with a warranty claim denial for something catastrophic?

Thanks in advance for any guidance....

[swexlin]

Wow, what is with the engine problems on the Gen 5s? Not good. I don't think Dodge will pay shipping costs to Woodhouse, but Atlas on here (check out his thread currently running in his forum) did just that, at his own expense. So your oil level was good? I would say have it flatbedded to your local trusted Viper tech, get it diagnosed. Good luck and please keep us posted.

This is now the third active engine issue thread going on in this section at the moment.

[BJG32]

After last year, I said will never own a viper not under warranty. My motto again reinforced! Oil level was good. Just took a photo. Changed 3000 miles ago and no burn off or additions made.

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[swexlin]

Ok, so not caused by low oil levels. Please keep us posted what they find. You will most likely be getting a new engine. I read today that Hyundai is recalling thousands of cars due to a "stalling" issue, which of course is a safety issue, because it is a family car. Those engines may be replaced. I don't think Dodge will do that with our cars.

Sorry to hear of this, and keep on Corporate to keep thing moving.

[BJG32]

I will. Not sure why the car wouldn't fire up? It was like the battery died. Then it turns over and catastrophic failure? I am not suprised only because of what i have been reading. Viper gods are working very hard make me go away!

[ViperJon]

Good God yet another one. My sympathies. Please keep us posted.

[ViperRT98]

You stated you were at a gas station 5 minutes prior... Did you get gas their??? Could be bad gas which is causing this issue...

[Nemesis]

Sounds similar to my experience when mine went. Spun rod bearings 7 & 8.. New engine, they don't rebuild them.

[Jack B]

Probably different, but, in my DD, I filled up, started the car and it died, 10 gal of water.

You stated you were at a gas station 5 minutes prior... Did you get gas their??? Could be bad gas which is causing this issue...

[Atlas]

Wow I am sorry to hear this. I am one of the cars right now with a similar engine issue. I shipped mine out last week to Woodhouse. I don't usually put much stock in things like this, but what a odd last couple weeks with a few of us. How many more are there that don't come on forums? Weird.

[swexlin]

Wow I am sorry to hear this. I am one of the cars right now with a similar engine issue. I shipped mine out last week to Woodhouse. I don't usually put much stock in things like this, but what a odd last couple weeks with a few of us. How many more are there that don't come on forums? Weird.

Yes, quite concerning.

[ViperSmith]

I'd be really curious to know the build order for the ones having these issues. Most seem to be 2014's that have the rod bearing issue. But then I could be wrong.

[BJG32]

Sounds similar to my experience when mine went. Spun rod bearings 7 & 8.. New engine, they don't rebuild them.

Thats good news. I'll take a new engine over rebuild.

[Lawrenzo]

You should have trusted your instincts based upon one of your earlier posts. Sorry for your troubles. While I miss my Gen V a ton, I certainly don't miss all the trips to the dealership and down time


"Insane the amount of problems I read about on this car. I hope I am one of the lucky ones that can enjoy mine more than its in the shop. My Gen III was a POS money vacuum. I was hoping they'd get it right 11 years later."

[BJG32]

You should have trusted your instincts based upon one of your earlier posts. Sorry for your troubles. While I miss my Gen V a ton, I certainly don't miss all the trips to the dealership and down time


"Insane the amount of problems I read about on this car. I hope I am one of the lucky ones that can enjoy mine more than its in the shop. My Gen III was a POS money vacuum. I was hoping they'd get it right 11 years later."

Yes sir! I remember saying that! I have never been 100% confident since last year and jumped on a great deal...but I repeat that i will never own a viper that is not under warranty....Ever!. Its an amazing car when its not catastrophically failing. Viper is on its last straw with me....one more failure and i'll find another car to be a fan of.

[Jdmuscle]

I'm very saddened by this.. Maybe you can post more details on your car such as build date etc that could potentially help people isolate this (if possible)

[Space Truckin]

Bizarre is all I can think of right now, all I ever did was change the oil/ filter and "drive them like I stole em". The first four generations were damn near bullet proof. These issues are very concerning when you factor the mileage on the cars when the failures are occurring

[1.8t]

Do we even know what happened or is everyone just assuming catastrophic engine failure? Seems like we might need to get the facts from a proper evaluation before passing judgement.

[Mag-Yum]

Just dropped off my 13 GTS for engine noise. Sounded like the passenger side valve train was running bone dry. Could hear it through the fire wall. I told them I want a new engine if there anything wrong with it at only 8k miles. Tech said there is something wrong and that they emailed Chrysler. Chrysler's reply was to pull the valve covers and check something. There's a TSB about this possible problem. Anyone else know about this particular Tech Serv Bulletin?

Oh and this too! I told the Tech while dropping off my Viper that my 14 Jeep SRT has stuck lifters as well and has had that issue since about 7k miles. The original dealer did shit and ignored what I told them to check. Said everything seemed fine. Back then I was clear that I wanted the complaint documented so that when the engine takes a shit, I can document the complaint with Chrysler reps. I was able to free them more or less with seafoam mixed in at EVERY oil change. Performance is also down the toilet since the cam is taking a beating! Want that fixed too and told the SRT certified dealer tech I dropped the Viper off at that it next.

[Rapidrezults]

BJG,

I'm sorry to hear of your troubles.

Just curious, would you classify yourself as an aggressive driver? Do you ever recall missing shifts, and/or over-revving the engine? I know it's probably a no...but figured I'd ask.

[Jdmuscle]

Missing a shift and revving the engine to redline here and there shouldn't cause an engine failure. Bouncing off the redline for a sustained period of time would cause any engine to fail and im sure most if not all viper owners are mature enough not to disrespect the car with such behavior.

Very keen on knowing what the diagnosis returns with for reported behavior here.. All I can think of is... Can we compile all the build dates for these failed engines to see if there is a pattern.

[viperdriver5150]

Yes sir! I remember saying that! I have never been 100% confident since last year and jumped on a great deal...but I repeat that i will never own a viper that is not under warranty....Ever!. Its an amazing car when its not catastrophically failing. Viper is on its last straw with me....one more failure and i'll find another car to be a fan of.

I said the same thing when I bought my new 2013 GTS in December of 14'. I figured, what are the chances mine would blow up, it's just a couple right. I didn't get 2 miles and my Viper experience was over. My personal count is up to 23 now in motors failing in Gen V's and you can be damn sure it's more than that...

[Jdmuscle]

5150, do you have details on the 23 failures you are talking about? Any patterns to note? Such as build dates, maintenance details, modifications, type of failure etc?

[Rapidrezults]

Missing a shift and revving the engine to redline here and there shouldn't cause an engine failure. Bouncing off the redline for a sustained period of time would cause any engine to fail and im sure most if not all viper owners are mature enough not to disrespect the car with such behavior.

Very keen on knowing what the diagnosis returns with for reported behavior here.. All I can think of is... Can we compile all the build dates for these failed engines to see if there is a pattern.

I agree, an occasional over-rev or missed shift shouldn't cause a problem, just trying to capture as much info as possible to document any trends in driving habits. I don't have enough experience with the V10 to know if they are sensitive to any particular rev conditions. I know some of my track rat buddies driving Gen II's are very concerned with missed shifts and over-revving with the V10. I highly doubt this has any correlation though.

[Jdmuscle]

I'm not very experienced with these powerplants as well. Did have a friend that had a 99 GTS that missed shifts all the time but this was on regular street driving and not track duty.

Anything you can collect from your buddies towards what their concerns were? The bottom ends are essentially the same since gen 1 from what've gathered so far.