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    Who's next for Arrow Heads & Cam

    after the first Tomball and Woodhouse install i haven't seen much popping on the forums about it who's next with heads and cam. i'd like to start a thread with videos of all the different exhaust combos. so far Texas Tonka has the corsa no cats which is my fave, then Andy has the ARH up roar no cats and the build Woodhouse had was done with full Belanger (not sure if he had cats). I'd like to hear a clip with stock mufflers and all the different muffler combos with cats to compare. Please post whatcha got!
    Last edited by KB Viper; 09-26-2015 at 11:57 PM.

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    Mark J posted an exhaust clip on his Facebook page, I think it was car #2 or 3.


    Quote Originally Posted by KB Viper View Post
    after the first Tomball and Woodhouse install i haven't seen much popping on the forums about it who's next with heads and cam. i'd like to start a thread with videos of all the different exhaust combos. so far Texas Tonka has the corsa no cats which is my fav, then Andy has the ARH up roar no cats and the build Woodhouse had was done with full Belanger (not sure if he had cats). I'd like to hear a clip with stock mufflers and all the different muffler combos with cats to compare. Please post whatcha got!

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    I've been talking with Mark @ Woodhouse and will do the package when the ACR arrives but that won't be until Jan-Feb, it's going to be a LONG winter.

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    and a great spring - good luck with it


    Quote Originally Posted by ViperTony View Post
    I've been talking with Mark @ Woodhouse and will do the package when the ACR arrives but that won't be until Jan-Feb, it's going to be a LONG winter.

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    We just got our next three kits Friday starting two cars on Monday.

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    Thinkin about it... got the cash in hand. However, kinda scared to ship my car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIPEREPIV View Post
    Thinkin about it... got the cash in hand. However, kinda scared to ship my car.
    We get cars from all over the country all the time. The factory uses Reliable Carriers to ship cars from Detroit to dealers all over the country. No reason to be worried! I'd love to have your car in my shop we added two more builds after our COTA event last weekend.

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    My car was #1 at Woodhouse for the Stage 2 install including Belanger full exhaust with cats. I've had it for 2 days now and it rocks ! I'm trying to stay under 4k rpms until 500 miles, and then I'll cut loose a bit. I gained 70rwhp over stock, and the driveability of this package is superb. If shipping your car is holding you back, you should know that Woodhouse can arrange a single car enclosed trailer for you. Definitely, first class all the way. Bill and Mark were excellent to work with.
    Last edited by NoMorZR1; 09-26-2015 at 07:50 PM.

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    Sombody upload those videos!!! Only have seen the orange TA so far.

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    I'm going for Dynamic suspension first.

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    I'd do the kit in a heartbeat if I ended up selling my GenIV, for the new ACR.... But I want to wait for Stage 3 to come out and hear they will be different, and that I should just wait for Stage 3. FLATOUT if you hear they need a mule car for the stage 3 let me know lol, my car and I are willing. Just need to figure out whether to go with a stage 3 GenIV or GenV

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    My exhaust videos can be seen on the "Woodhouse Motorsports " page. You don't have to sign on to Facebook, just do a Google search. IMO, the Belanger exhaust is not quite as "raspy" or "choppy" like the ARH or Corsa setup. It's still plenty loud and mean, as my neighbors are already attesting to ! repiV, it's 100 hp at the crank or 70rwhp.
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    [QUOTE= repiV, it's 100 hp at the crank or 70rwhp.[/QUOTE]

    Oh yea...read that wrong sorry. Still seems like a lot of $$ for the gain you get.

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    It's all relative. I don't count pennies when it comes to cars. There is a certain "rush" I was hoping for when I ordered this Viper, instead of a Z06 or a GT2, and this car has delivered. I do plan on moving forward with Stage 3 when it's available . My before & after numbers were 517/466, and 590/538, that's at the rear wheel, using whichever dyno Woodhouse uses.
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    I do not mean to be disrespectful, however, you should either offer your solution, or better yet go back over the history of this whole development project.

    Quote Originally Posted by repiV View Post
    Oh yea...read that wrong sorry. Still seems like a lot of $$ for the gain you get.
    Last edited by Jack B; 09-26-2015 at 10:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack B View Post
    I do not mean to be disrespectful, however, you should either offer your solution, or better yet go back over the history of this whole development project.
    I know that you're responding to someone else but with all do respect, I realize car for car can be different but there is a significant difference here. For the price of this kit 110 rwhp is a deal, 95 rwhp is fair, but I have to agree that this kit would not be worth the money for 70 rwhp.... hfc's or not! If I'm missing something here please correct me as I do make mistakes often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoMorZR1 View Post
    My exhaust videos can be seen on the "Woodhouse Motorsports " page. You don't have to sign on to Facebook, just do a Google search. IMO, the Belanger exhaust is not quite as "raspy" or "choppy" like the ARH or Corsa setup. It's still plenty loud and mean, as my neighbors are already attesting to ! repiV, it's 100 hp at the crank or 70rwhp.
    Did you actually do a before/after dyno, or is that a guesstimate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoMorZR1 View Post
    My exhaust videos can be seen on the "Woodhouse Motorsports " page. You don't have to sign on to Facebook, just do a Google search. IMO, the Belanger exhaust is not quite as "raspy" or "choppy" like the ARH or Corsa setup. It's still plenty loud and mean, as my neighbors are already attesting to ! repiV, it's 100 hp at the crank or 70rwhp.
    Are you running cats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DreadLox View Post
    I'd do the kit in a heartbeat if I ended up selling my GenIV, for the new ACR.... But I want to wait for Stage 3 to come out and hear they will be different, and that I should just wait for Stage 3. FLATOUT if you hear they need a mule car for the stage 3 let me know lol, my car and I are willing. Just need to figure out whether to go with a stage 3 GenIV or GenV
    calling dips!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murpowa View Post
    calling dips!
    Haha you two and everyone else I can tell you guys I'm staying NA for road racing purposes so we won't be using mine Winkles drives our Gen V at Arrow everyday though so a lot if not all of the stage 3 development will be on that car just like the Heads and Cam Package was. The cam in this package came directly out of Ben's IMSA racecar. Ben has run 9 different cam shafts in his IMSA Viper and the one in the ViperExchange/Arrow Package came directly out of that development process.

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    Isn't the price way too high for only 70 hp??

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    Quote Originally Posted by repiV View Post
    Isn't the price way too high for only 70 hp??
    The two ViperExchange test cars gained 110rwhp and 95rwhp respectively. We have not dyno'd Kurt's car yet.

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    Yes, it is the full Belanger setup with cats.

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    I'm sure the heads and cam package is good. I would be all over this if you could use HP tuners. Just my opinion but there is A LOT of HP left on the table, since Arrow has to work in all types of weather conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdv25 View Post
    I'm sure the heads and cam package is good. I would be all over this if you could use HP tuners. Just my opinion but there is A LOT of HP left on the table, since Arrow has to work in all types of weather conditions.
    This is definitely an OEM style effort that will work anywhere anytime as you mention. Our repeated trips to Pikes Peak from Houston proved just that.


 
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