D3 Performance Engineering Gen5 Procharger Development

[7TH_SIGN]

Soon my friend. D3 is making a few improvements as we speak; and then the hell hounds shall be released.

Sir I look forward to that!!! Superchargers are great and all, but turbochargers are greater imo.

[moe.basilo]

Just a little more testing and this will be available for purchase as our base GenV supercharger kit! This is just the beginning though, more to come for sure!

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Great job evan, you guys are awesome i really appreciate the hard work
You guys put into that venom. Thats really a good numbers am curious how much gone put down
On 10psi of boost .. Please keep us posted and looking forward to see more powera d good luck in the testing evan
Everyone is waiting for that kit.

[Y'orange_UAE]

"It isn't $2,000?!!?"

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awesome stuff guys.

Did someone talk about the cost?!

Soon you will see it on my car with thread (Y'orange_UAE D3 Procharger)

[ACR]

Sir I look forward to that!!! Superchargers are great and all, but turbochargers are greater imo.

Drivability and traction , forget tracking such a car

[ACRucrazy]

Gen IV version next... ?

[Chipster]

Very exciting!

[DZnutz]

I hope pricing will be affordable

[7TH_SIGN]

Drivability and traction , forget tracking such a car

Haha. Check my sig. If its not making 1000whp, its of no interest to me. That's just me, to each their own. My goal with this Viper is 1000whp on 93oct.

Also drivability won't be as bad as you think. Not with the Viper platform. I had 1600cc injectors in my Supra with an external fuel pump and running off a V1 AEM. Now thats horrible drivability.

[docwviper]

Very curious about the pricing. I wonder on lower boost levels whether this could be tracked....

[ACR]

Very curious about the pricing. I wonder on lower boost levels whether this could be tracked....

Cooling is the issue

[Malu59RT]

For a bolt-on kit for stock motors using HPT, they should have it at $19,999.99 lol. I can't wait to see one of these in action!

[moe.basilo]

For a bolt-on kit for stock motors using HPT, they should have it at $19,999.99 lol. I can't wait to see one of these in action!

You are exaggerating hahaha
I think between 9k-14k USD depends on the options too
Thats my opinion honestly so lets just wait and see

[Urbamworm]

For a bolt-on kit for stock motors using HPT, they should have it at $19,999.99 lol. I can't wait to see one of these in action!

So triple the cost of a intercooled F1 kit for several other cars and over double a C7 Z06? Hope not, obviously with it being more limited production due to not as many people out there looking to buy one compared to say a Corvette or Mustang, etc you have to expect a higher price but what is realistic? I suppose it also depends on what is included in the "kit" such as injectors (what size), canned "off the shelf" HPTuners tune, etc. which could drive the price up. A new C7 Z intercooled kit which also comes with a new intake manifold (added cost) is around $9k to give you an idea. That isn't with a tune or injectors though to my understanding. Friend just got quoted $8900 from ProCharger for his 2016 C7 Z06.

Gotta remember, this is no fancy fuel system, no fancy standalone management, etc.

[Junkie]

Haha. Check my sig. If its not making 1000whp, its of no interest to me. That's just me, to each their own. My goal with this Viper is 1000whp on 93oct.

Also drivability won't be as bad as you think. Not with the Viper platform. I had 1600cc injectors in my Supra with an external fuel pump and running off a V1 AEM. Now thats horrible drivability.

Motec, ID's and triple intank pumps or a mechanical would have solved all those issues

For a bolt-on kit for stock motors using HPT, they should have it at $19,999.99 lol. I can't wait to see one of these in action!

Yup that would be awesome.

[Malu59RT]

LOL, I was joking that it shouldn't dip into the $20's. Kind of like how sale prices are $299 instead of $300, it's all perception. A kit for under $10k or $15k would be a game changer for the FI Viper market, I guess we just have to wait and find out.

[Urbamworm]

I don't see it being under $10k even without a tune, no way. I would think around $14-15k with a tune and 850-1000cc injectors.

[Junkie]

Witha 6k head unit, 3k fuel system, etc… its hard to be in the 10k range imo. Honestly I would love to see 15k for the "base" blower kit, maybe reference it as a "tuner" kit like other manufacturers do. Then 22-25k for the kit installed with fuel, management, etc…

Really looking forward to seeing how far they can go with HPT. I think 7xx whp isn't much to be excited about honestly, my nitrous car made 9xx with 93 in the tank. I would love to see an F1x Viper in the 9xx whp area on 93, and I think its entirely possible.

My ideal combo would be

17-18lb pulley - ish
restrictor plate bringing it down to 14-15lbs
93 octane
fuel system

I think that combo would make a nasty graph, vs the conventional peaky centri graph and still be reliable on 93.

[Evan@D3PE]

Very curious about the pricing. I wonder on lower boost levels whether this could be tracked....

This is the lowest boost realistically possible without adding a wastegate for boost control or changing components in the kit

[Evan@D3PE]

Witha 6k head unit, 3k fuel system, etc… its hard to be in the 10k range imo. Honestly I would love to see 15k for the "base" blower kit, maybe reference it as a "tuner" kit like other manufacturers do. Then 22-25k for the kit installed with fuel, management, etc…

Really looking forward to seeing how far they can go with HPT. I think 7xx whp isn't much to be excited about honestly, my nitrous car made 9xx with 93 in the tank. I would love to see an F1x Viper in the 9xx whp area on 93, and I think its entirely possible.

My ideal combo would be

17-18lb pulley - ish
restrictor plate bringing it down to 14-15lbs
93 octane
fuel system

I think that combo would make a nasty graph, vs the conventional peaky centri graph and still be reliable on 93.

Still working on a few tricks to see if we can keep the stock ecu happy that high so we'll see

[Urbamworm]

Witha 6k head unit, 3k fuel system, etc… its hard to be in the 10k range imo. Honestly I would love to see 15k for the "base" blower kit, maybe reference it as a "tuner" kit like other manufacturers do. Then 22-25k for the kit installed with fuel, management, etc…

Really looking forward to seeing how far they can go with HPT. I think 7xx whp isn't much to be excited about honestly, my nitrous car made 9xx with 93 in the tank. I would love to see an F1x Viper in the 9xx whp area on 93, and I think its entirely possible.

My ideal combo would be

17-18lb pulley - ish
restrictor plate bringing it down to 14-15lbs
93 octane
fuel system

I think that combo would make a nasty graph, vs the conventional peaky centri graph and still be reliable on 93.

I am real curious what the stock fuel system is going to be able to dish out since at 770s they didn't have fuel pressure problems yet without even using a boost a pump. I feel like it is realistic to see close to 900 on 93 with a boost a pump putting a great savings on a fuel system and we all know a cheap pulley swap changes a "base kit" to a not so base kit when you add in a boost a pump, so under a grand added and you could realistically see 900whp as long as there isn't some hidden problem that arises with the tuning at higher boost levels.

Add in a high boosting pulley and upgraded fuel system to crack 1000 and that would be the business.

[Evan@D3PE]

So triple the cost of a intercooled F1 kit for several other cars and over double a C7 Z06? Hope not, obviously with it being more limited production due to not as many people out there looking to buy one compared to say a Corvette or Mustang, etc you have to expect a higher price but what is realistic? I suppose it also depends on what is included in the "kit" such as injectors (what size), canned "off the shelf" HPTuners tune, etc. which could drive the price up. A new C7 Z intercooled kit which also comes with a new intake manifold (added cost) is around $9k to give you an idea. That isn't with a tune or injectors though to my understanding. Friend just got quoted $8900 from ProCharger for his 2016 C7 Z06.

Gotta remember, this is no fancy fuel system, no fancy standalone management, etc.

Still can't exactly compare to a Z06 but a little more apple to apple would be just over 10k.

Z06 F1A kit - $8698
Upgrade to F1X - $875
Upgrade to race valve - $285
Black head unit and bracket - $435

Still comes with manifold but no injectors obviously along with a few other differences.

We're still seeing if we can get away with a little more on the stock ecu but trying to keep at or below the 15k price point. Now that we know the kit will mostly stay as pictured, we are running the numbers to get a more specific price very soon

[Urbamworm]

What can possibly stay the same on this kit as well and perhaps transfer over to the Gen 4? Hopefully a lot and you guys can benefit there without having to do everything all over again if interested in grabbing that market while you are at it.

I honestly don't see how anyone could complain much about a turn key kit (injectors and tune included) for in the $14-15k range. Hopefully you guys can surprise everyone with a pulley swap and boost a pump still on HPTuners making some great power.

[Evan@D3PE]

What can possibly stay the same on this kit as well and perhaps transfer over to the Gen 4? Hopefully a lot and you guys can benefit there without having to do everything all over again if interested in grabbing that market while you are at it.

I honestly don't see how anyone could complain much about a turn key kit (injectors and tune included) for in the $14-15k range. Hopefully you guys can surprise everyone with a pulley swap and boost a pump still on HPTuners making some great power.

We'll find out soon! Going to put the car all together and beat on now if we don't rain all weekend here. More tricks up our sleeve next week to see what can be done for more

[darbgnik]

Disclaimer: I am not and will not be in the market for this kit. I bought my Viper primarily for the roadcourse, so adding heat, weight, and complexity for a stronger push on the all too infrequent straights doesn't add up for me. But for the guys who love 1/4 mile, highway rolls, and red light racing, I see this as very exciting.

I may have said it before, but I can't understand comparisons with high volume cars, when it comes to price points. Sure, with this kit, you can compare the head unit cost, but that's about it. When a kit is developed for cars that sell more in one month, than all Gen V Vipers produced to date, economies of scale are in play. Think about all the development work spread out over a possible 500 kits, vs spread out over 20-30. Even after development, when sending out all the hard parts for fabrication, think about the cost per piece when ordering 10 at a time, vs 100.

Again, I won't be ordering one anyway, but if I did, my first complaint wouldn't be that I want it for even in the ballpark of a kit for, say a Corvette. A realistic comparison would be a kit for a Gallardo LP560. This is what a well engineered kit for a low volume car goes for.

https://www.vividracing.com/catalog/...-p-142421.html

But I do hope for all involved, that the price will ride the line between acceptable to buyers, and the vendor at least making some acceptable margin.

[ZeeViper]

if this kit could be tracked at 7psi....oh baby.