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I don't know how they come off, haven't tried or looked that up. You'll have to let me know what else you run into tho, if anything. I'm sure FLATOUT will respond with the answer(s) you need. I just bought the intake and hose from ACRucrazy but won't be able to get mine done till spring. I look forward to pics from you too man! Good luck :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FrgMstr
Got all the torque / crush sleeves trimmed, and fitted......gonna grab some shuteye. Hopefully get it knocked out early morning. Took pics of the interesting stuff, which is not much.
Sweet stuff! Can't wait to see pics and hear results.Quote:
Originally Posted by FrgMstr
LOL this is an easy 30 minute install interrupted by 2 hours of trimming those damn torque limiters. Easy but time consuming.Quote:
Originally Posted by FrgMstr
Good job man and great talking to you on the phone.
Before I hit the sack. :) Not sure I am going to be able to get back to it in the morning, but by Sunday for sure. (Going out of town)Quote:
Originally Posted by ACRucrazy
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Looks great!
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Originally Posted by FLATOUT
If the process works out well I will do a write up in this thread on it. Like everything else on the car, nothing was same length! You could have cut all of these on a jig in a band saw and still had to go back and fit and trim..... :stickmen_burningsti
Nice work , thanks for sharing . :)
I'll be watching as well to see how your install goes. Still haven't decided if I'm going to flush cut mine like this or just cut them back to clear as others have done... These look great though.Quote:
Originally Posted by FrgMstr
I got about an hour before I have to get on the road, so no results till Sunday. Sorry. I did trim these back so that the face of the sleeve is just slightly below the face of the mating surface. Probably about .25mm to .5mm. One I simply fubarred and it is about 1mm too short.
These are made out of aluminum, so they are easy to work with. The wall of the flange is only snug fitting at the top. The bottom has room around the sleeve. Seems these are made to "crush" a bit.
A quick rundown of the process....
1. Tapped all sleeves so that they were sticking out the top a bit with a punch and a rubber mallet. Then used the bolt with built in washer to tap the tops back level.
2. Got a sharpie with a nice sharp tip on it and drew around the sleeve facing.
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3. Took that sleeve and put it in a vice....very easily because ALUMINUM....then used a Dremel tool with a cut off wheel and removed portion with the Sharpie mark. Grab it with pliers and quench it before you touch it!
4. Laid a piece of 250 grit sand paper on a nice flat portion of the bench to knock off the burs and give it a nice end finish. At this point the longest you want the piece to be is 34.65mm. This was the longest one I used that hand fitted up correctly. I had a couple that were in the 33mm length. But you can tap the sleeve back in and use a bolt to get level at the top to test fit and see where material needs to be removed. Since these are aluminum, it is not a problem to remove material with the sand paper on a hard flat surface.
Like I said, I am not even sure this works at this point, but it seems like it should be better than straight cutting these......and since I am a bit OCD, I feel better about it anyway. And it was a good excuse to stay in the garage for 4 hours and get some relaxation. :) I did not rush at all.
FrgMstr -
It is interesting to me you found the lengths to all be slightly different. This could explain past issues with the angled part if manufactured/cut all to the same length. Some may have been sticking out too far causing alignment issues and leaks. Maybe angle cutting requires the attention to detail you've done here and making sure each limiter fits perfectly where it will be installed. I think angled is better than straight cut (in theory) but FLATOUT has had good results with the straight cut as well. Keep us posted and thanks for the update.
Andy and I did my intake the same. We just cut the crush sleeves straight and I haven't had any issues at all. Probably just a matter of personal preference.Quote:
Originally Posted by SSGNRDZ_28
There would be no problem either way. You could actually cut them in half and they would work just fine also. They are strictly locating sleeves so as long as they are in place to locate the intake over the heads intake ports, you are GTG.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shooter
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Originally Posted by IndyRon
OK, this is what I did not know. If these are for location only, then I wasted my time. I thought these were "torque limiters." If not, I would likely be better off just cutting these back to make sure these are out of the way.
SRTengineers called them torque limiters. Take it for what its worth I guess.
That's how I looked at them although eith them being slightly different lengths I wasn't too concerned about it. Most important thing is to torque to spec and not crank on the fasteners and crack the manifold.Quote:
Originally Posted by ACRucrazy
I'm sure part of their function is to make the installation more efficient and fool proof for mass production. Allow for perfect alignment and prevent over torquing in a production environment. These are things that can be overcome on an a individual installation. That said I'm still interested to see how the angled cut limiter installation goes.
This is off current topic... but just wanted to ask this;
Apparently these are a few things that are done to my ACR, things done before I bought it. Some I knew, the others I just found out (Thank you Mark and Bill @ Woodhouse Dodge) I already ordered the Gen V intake manifold, I'm hoping I didn't waste my money. I personally think just the weight difference & heat dissipation of the Gen V if anything make it still worth it. I'm still going to do the swap this spring. Just wanted anyone's input. Figured this is the best thread to ask on.
Thanks
BLACK BBG ACRX HEADERS AND CORSA CATBACK
MOPAR PCM AND CALIBRATE
GIKEN DIFFERENTIAL USING THE STOCK GEARS
MGW SHIFTER
CORNER WEIGHT AND COMP ALIGNMENT
PORTED LOWER INTAKE
The ported lower intake is the reason I ask
As noted above ,it appears to Limit over torqueing , and get correct compression on the O Ring , we use similar devices on High Voltage equipment and refer to them as Stop Gaskets .
Dreadlox -
I agree with you - the heat / weight is worth it. Obviously the gain is more going from stock but you'll still be improving the car.
Thanks, it's always good to hear others input as well. I got a great deal on the intake anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by SSGNRDZ_28
Looking forward FrgMstr's updates when he gets back
Hopefully I will be back in the garage by,1800 , tomorrow.to give it a go. Just in time to wake up the neighborhood.
They are definitely torque limiters...although I've not seen Gen V heads with the manifold removed, my guess is that each of these holes in the head have a machined flat to accept these pieces so that when you go to tighten the bolts, they contact that machined surface instead of warping the plastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by FrgMstr
Is the Newer Mopar PCM needed for the GenV intake installation?