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KB Viper
07-30-2015, 11:27 AM
I"m headed to auto club speedway in 2 weeks and i wanted to ask what oil members are running at the track. it will be a 4x25min type day.

Steve-Indy
07-30-2015, 11:37 AM
Mobil 1 15W-50 should work quite well.

Nambo
07-30-2015, 12:38 PM
Same here, Mobil 1 15W-50

venomous08
07-30-2015, 12:56 PM
15w-50

mjorgensen
07-30-2015, 01:33 PM
There you have it :-)

witz323
07-30-2015, 02:31 PM
Amsoil DOMINATOR 15w50

XSnake
07-30-2015, 03:08 PM
Mobil 15w-50

J TNT
07-30-2015, 03:36 PM
1 more option
http://www.mobil1.com.au/products/product_5w50.aspx

LmeaViper
07-30-2015, 06:27 PM
15W 50 - that weight for temp and shear? Assuming you can't get that in a lower weight?

VENOM V
07-30-2015, 06:42 PM
1 more option
http://www.mobil1.com.au/products/product_5w50.aspx

Cool, didn't know Mobil1 came in 5W-50. I've been using 15W-50, but I may try 5W-50 next time.

Full synthetic is clearly a must.

I do prefer Amsoil, but Mobil1 also works. The good news about our cars is that they do an excellent job cooling the oil, unlike pretty much anything GM makes. Camaros and C7 Vettes run dangerously hot oil.

TrackAire
07-30-2015, 06:48 PM
I've been using Motul 15w-50 300V Competition. Can't promise that it is any better than Mobil One or any other brand, but the car does seem to run very smooth with it.

serpent
07-30-2015, 07:07 PM
Amsoil DOMINATOR 15w50
I use amsoil for my 5.0. I wish there was a knowledgeable oil person that uses amsoil and runs it on his viper, or vipers.

VENOM V
07-30-2015, 07:45 PM
I've run Amsoil in my track car for years, it's great stuff. Again, I've also run Mobil 1. As long as you are using a quality synthetic oil at a good viscosity (5W-50 to 15W-50) I don't think you need to be concerned beyond that.

J TNT
07-30-2015, 08:21 PM
I've used Amsoil for over 20 years , but have been told by a very good source it's Not the preferred oil ! And Highly recommended Pennzoil or Mobil 1 due to there manufacturer interaction ! Mobil 1 5w50 I believe was developed for engines spinning to 8500 rpm . fwiw

Cool, didn't know Mobil1 came in 5W-50. I've been using 15W-50, but I may try 5W-50 next time.

Full synthetic is clearly a must.

I do prefer Amsoil, but Mobil1 also works. The good news about our cars is that they do an excellent job cooling the oil, unlike pretty much anything GM makes. Camaros and C7 Vettes run dangerously hot oil.

VENOM V
07-30-2015, 08:24 PM
I've used Amsoil for over 20 years , but have been told by a very good source it's Not the preferred oil ! And Highly recommended Pennzoil or Mobil 1 due to there manufacturer interaction ! Mobil 1 5w50 I believe was developed for engines spinning to 8500 rpm . fwiw

Funny thing is, very good sources have given me completely opposite advice on two things: brake pads and oil. They're a little like religion, haha. Now I just make sure that I have a quality synthetic between 5W-50 and 15W-50 and don't worry beyond that.

allans
07-30-2015, 08:26 PM
Castrol R

J TNT
07-30-2015, 08:43 PM
Good point !
My source works at Arrow , I think you know him !.........lol ! ;)

Funny thing is, very good sources have given me completely opposite advice on two things: brake pads and oil. They're a little like religion, haha. Now I just make sure that I have a quality synthetic between 5W-50 and 15W-50 and don't worry beyond that.

SilveRT8
07-30-2015, 09:00 PM
I change my oil after 2 track days of 5 x 20 min. each, but I went with the standard recommended Mobil 0-40W. Should I be concerned or better to go with 5-50 or 15-50 before the next one.?
Note: I'm not hard on the car and only push it to about 8/10th of it's capabilities.

catwood
07-30-2015, 10:16 PM
What event?

XSnake
07-30-2015, 10:57 PM
I change my oil after 2 track days of 5 x 20 min. each, but I went with the standard recommended Mobil 0-40W. Should I be concerned or better to go with 5-50 or 15-50 before the next one.?
Note: I'm not hard on the car and only push it to about 8/10th of it's capabilities.
If you are tracking you need to be using the thicker oil. I change my oil every event and still use the thicker stuff. Cheap insurance.

SilveRT8
07-31-2015, 08:42 PM
If you are tracking you need to be using the thicker oil. I change my oil every event and still use the thicker stuff. Cheap insurance.

Thanks, I'll switch to the thicker oil. Got 2 more track days ahead, one at Calabogie Ontario and one at Mont-Tremblant Quebec

SADVIPER
08-03-2015, 08:58 AM
If you are tracking you need to be using the thicker oil. I change my oil every event and still use the thicker stuff. Cheap insurance.

Is it thicker than Mopar's fully synthetic which is recommended in the Viper manual? I tracked with it one time still looks good!

RedTanRT/10
08-03-2015, 11:46 AM
What event?

Speed Ventures Surprisingly the temp is only foretasted for a high of 90 this weekend

catwood
08-03-2015, 03:26 PM
Sounds fun. I'd head up but committed to another deal this weekend and the next two. You going to Saxtons in October. I just got the flier. I'm probably gonna go.

JonB ~ PartsRack
08-03-2015, 04:14 PM
Hint: If you choose the 15-50 and use it for street use, you should BE CERTAIN to warm-up your engine 2-5 minutes before driving off. Even in warm weather. Cold weather demands the longer 5-minute warmup. And before you go blasting WOT to impress the neighbors, be sure you have some temp indicated in the oil. (G3-4-5 show oil temp)

Even though it displays HIGH oil Pressure past the sensor, its not going to do its best job til it has some temp built up and circulated well.

If you choose 0-40 or 5-50 oils, you should still warm it a minute, and save WOT til you know the engine's blood is warmed a bit.

RedTanRT/10
08-03-2015, 05:43 PM
Sounds fun. I'd head up but committed to another deal this weekend and the next two. You going to Saxtons in October. I just got the flier. I'm probably gonna go.

Yeah Carl, hope to see you there, been awhile, should be a number of SoCal guys plus a few from NorCal too.

ViperGeorge
08-03-2015, 08:31 PM
Will 15 50 oil help the car run cooler on the track? Chasing a cooling problem on my 15 TA.

Voice of Reason
08-03-2015, 09:01 PM
Since every Gen V is still under warranty isn't the smart move to continue with the factory 0-40? I'd hate to see a warranty claim denied because a person wasn't using the factory weight. And I mean that both on and off the track. Jon's point about street driving on 15-50 could be an issue for someone with an unfortunate early engine failure. And if you're following all factory recommendations and the engine goes at the track I've heard warranty will be honored (one specific story of a Gen IV with an extended warranty covering a full engine replacement that failed on track comes to mind).

Viperawi
08-04-2015, 02:26 AM
Hint: If you choose the 15-50 and use it for street use, you should BE CERTAIN to warm-up your engine 2-5 minutes before driving off. Even in warm weather. Cold weather demands the longer 5-minute warmup. And before you go blasting WOT to impress the neighbors, be sure you have some temp indicated in the oil. (G3-4-5 show oil temp)

Even though it displays HIGH oil Pressure past the sensor, its not going to do its best job til it has some temp built up and circulated well.

If you choose 0-40 or 5-50 oils, you should still warm it a minute, and save WOT til you know the engine's blood is warmed a bit.

Thanks JonB for this, and if it's not too much to ask, what would be the side affects of not doing the warm up as recommended? I just would love to have a better understanding about it if possible.

Our market have the Motul 15w-50 300V Competition available and I'm thinking to switch to it for the upcoming track events.

Thanks,

catwood
08-04-2015, 03:16 PM
And the warm up would be required on a dead cold start at the track I believe also.




Hint: If you choose the 15-50 and use it for street use, you should BE CERTAIN to warm-up your engine 2-5 minutes before driving off. Even in warm weather. Cold weather demands the longer 5-minute warmup. And before you go blasting WOT to impress the neighbors, be sure you have some temp indicated in the oil. (G3-4-5 show oil temp)

Even though it displays HIGH oil Pressure past the sensor, its not going to do its best job til it has some temp built up and circulated well.

If you choose 0-40 or 5-50 oils, you should still warm it a minute, and save WOT til you know the engine's blood is warmed a bit.

KB Viper
08-12-2015, 12:07 PM
are there any negative side affects of running castrol 5w50 all the time keep in mind i will do proper warm up on cold starts?
http://www.amazon.com/Castrol-06250-5W-50-Synthetic-Motor/dp/B0058WKOUQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1439399228&sr=8-1&keywords=5w-50+synthetic+oil

TrackAire
08-12-2015, 12:59 PM
are there any negative side affects of running castrol 5w50 all the time keep in mind i will do proper warm up on cold starts?
http://www.amazon.com/Castrol-06250-5W-50-Synthetic-Motor/dp/B0058WKOUQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1439399228&sr=8-1&keywords=5w-50+synthetic+oil


At the ambient temps you live at, you'll sell the car long before the weight of the oil will effect its longevity. Run a good quality oil and most importantly don't run out of oil. No oil will save a motor if the motor has a defect, period.

Warming up the car (by driving easy the first 3-4 miles) will have more impact on the longevity of your car than any oil brand or weight you use. Not only will your motor thank you, but so with the trans and rear end. Once up to operating temps, run her as hard as you want.

FSTENUF
08-12-2015, 01:30 PM
I just finished my 2nd track night. So I may have a total of 100 miles on the track and out of those 100 miles 60 are at race speed. All of you are telling me you need a oil change after every event? But you go 3000 miles if you drive on the street. I don't know about anyone else but I for one push my car on the street. Maybe a little less then the track but I drive it like I stole it. Why else would you own a street legal race car. I let my car warm up no matter what the temps are and go at least 5 miles to get everything warm. This just seems a bit much I could see if you are running 3 hours balls out but doing a 3 x 20 run over 3 hours and the oil temps are no where close to getting high just seams like over kill. That's just my 2 cents