Corsa Exhaust , 3 levels or only extreme ?

[vegasgtr]

I found the Corsa cat-back exhaust . Sound:extreme. do they make them in non extreme? A little confused with the different levels.


On ebay it says pick

extreme
Sport
Touring.

not sure if that is correct.

[mblgjr]

Part number 14416 "Xtreme" is all they offer.

[vegasgtr]

Part number 14416 "Xtreme" is all they offer.

thank you sir! looks like I will be ordering that when i get a chance. found it for 1132.00 free shipping.

[Viktimize]

thank you sir! looks like I will be ordering that when i get a chance. found it for 1132.00 free shipping. Any Vendors on this forum that can match that let me know.Dot mind buying from sponsors.

Damn! where is that? I will order up mine right away too.

[vegasgtr]

Damn! where is that? I will order up mine right away too.

autoanything.com

[vegasgtr]

well pulled the trigger. not sure if the price will stay like that. Now going to order Hptuners from Torrie and drop in filters.. hopefully i pick up 30-40hp with exhaust.

[G37Sam]

That's a hell of a deal!!

[SilveRT8]

Got a set of Corsa Extreme for sale $800 shipped. They were on my car for one summer, 3k miles.

[darbgnik]

Damn! where is that? I will order up mine right away too.


Got a set of Corsa Extreme for sale $800 shipped. They were on my car for one summer, 3k miles.

And you're both in Canada, win win.

[DZnutz]

I just called them, out of curiosity, and they took another 5% off lol

[BOOSTED]

If the Corsas are still available , let me know. Ill take them .... Are they other original mufflers that made the whistling noise ? or the newer ones

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

DARN! "Half Of All Advertising $$ is WASTED"

PartsRack has the Gen 5 Corsa Extreme in stock, and we were the ones who arranged the 2013 Mule to CORSA to create it! {Narra Pace Car Story on here elsewhere.)

$1075 + s/h USA {$40-$70} so we BOTH lose. "SUPPORT YOUR SPONSORS PLEASE" !!! And I doubt the other guys STOCK Viper Corsas even if they say they do.....

[ViperSmith]

Got mine from Jon last time, will again next time :)

[SilveRT8]

Got mine from Jon last time, will again next time :)

Same here, Jon is great to deal with !

[Junkie]

JonB FTW, best vendor in the game

[darbgnik]

I don't usually price shop either, Jon is my first call. Although he has sent me elsewhere for better pricing.

BTW Jon, I received my Brakeman pads already, but still haven't noticed a charge on my credit card.. lol

[Jack B]

A little history.

1. The first mule was preproduction.

2. My car was the first production mule. The muffler from the preproduction car was too loud on my car, this was their decision.

3. The next permutation (installed on my car) was sold as the final design.

4. Somewhere along the line, they decided even the second design was too loud and they were going to offer a third design for those that wanted quiet. I lost track at that point.

[LmeaViper]

A little history.

1. The first mule was preproduction.

2. My car was the first production mule. The muffler from the preproduction car was too loud on my car, this was their decision.

3. The next permutation (installed on my car) was sold as the final design.

4. Somewhere along the line, they decided even the second design was too loud and they were going to offer a third design for those that wanted quiet. I lost track at that point.

Interesting.

I wonder if anyone knows if the quiet was ever made? HP gains, what is realistic?

[LmeaViper]

Got a set of Corsa Extreme for sale $800 shipped. They were on my car for one summer, 3k miles.

Why are you selling them? Wondering if you thought they were too loud?thks

[vegasgtr]

DARN! "Half Of All Advertising $$ is WASTED"

PartsRack has the Gen 5 Corsa Extreme in stock, and we were the ones who arranged the 2013 Mule to CORSA to create it! {Narra Pace Car Story on here elsewhere.)

$1075 + s/h USA {$40-$70} so we BOTH lose. "SUPPORT YOUR SPONSORS PLEASE" !!! And I doubt the other guys STOCK Viper Corsas even if they say they do.....

Shit Sorry Jon :(. I clicked on all the vendors on here and must have missed yours.. I could not find the exhaust. next time Ill post a thread first. apologies.

[SilveRT8]

Why are you selling them? Wondering if you thought they were too loud?thks

No, not too loud, just perfect with the stock manifolds, louder and crisper than stock with reduced drone and more burble and pops on decel. But then I purchased Belanger headers and figured it would now become too loud for me, so I got a set of used AR mufflers from a member here, wich are quieter and deeper sounding than stock to go with the headers.
Since I put those on with the Arrow PCM I think it sounds just fine, so the Belanger are collecting dust on a shelf, untill I want the extra sound and HP. I just dont want it too loud anymore since I do some road trips with the wife, just did 700 miles last week-end, and also on track days we have to be under 93db.

[vegasgtr]

No, not too loud, just perfect with the stock manifolds, louder and crisper than stock with reduced drone and more burble and pops on decel. But then I purchased Belanger headers and figured it would now become too loud for me, so I got a set of used AR mufflers from a member here, wich are quieter and deeper sounding than stock to go with the headers.
Since I put those on with the Arrow PCM I think it sounds just fine, so the Belanger are collecting dust on a shelf, untill I want the extra sound and HP. I just dont want it too loud anymore since I do some road trips with the wife, just did 700 miles last week-end, and also on track days we have to be under 93db.

so with OEM upper exhaust its a little louder than stock? meaning ONLY cat back... I really don't want it too loud. I bought it for no drone at 80mph and some HP...

[G37Sam]

How's the drone compared to American Racing?

[USCDOC]

so with OEM upper exhaust its a little louder than stock? meaning ONLY cat back... I really don't want it too loud. I bought it for no drone at 80mph and some HP...

I don't have any drone at any speed with the Corsa's. I just have the catback and think they sound great. Not to loud, but a great improvement over stock.

[vegasgtr]

I don't have any drone at any speed with the Corsa's. I just have the catback and think they sound great. Not to loud, but a great improvement over stock.

thats what i want to hear!! thank you

[SilveRT8]

How's the drone compared to American Racing?

They both still have some drone but much less than the stock mufflers.
Compared to stock, to me the Corsa are like if you would turn the Volume up 2 notches and the Treble up 1
With the American Racing it's like you turn the Volume down 1 notch and up the Bass 2 notches.

[timberwolf]

No, not too loud, just perfect with the stock manifolds, louder and crisper than stock with reduced drone and more burble and pops on decel. But then I purchased Belanger headers and figured it would now become too loud for me, so I got a set of used AR mufflers from a member here, wich are quieter and deeper sounding than stock to go with the headers.
Since I put those on with the Arrow PCM I think it sounds just fine, so the Belanger are collecting dust on a shelf, untill I want the extra sound and HP. I just dont want it too loud anymore since I do some road trips with the wife, just did 700 miles last week-end, and also on track days we have to be under 93db.

That's my biggest fear! Too loud. I hated my stock exhaust on my ride home from the track. I guess driving hard opened the exhaust up more, cause 1500 rpms on the highway way painful. I was hoping to do just ARH with high flow cats and calling it a day. I wonder if ARH, hi flows and Corsa would be too much. Or just the entire ARH exhaust with hi flows.

[viper04]

Just curious if the aftermarket cat back exhaust make HP? the stock is a straight through design. Just wondering were they make up the HP over the stocker. It is said to flow 18% better but wondering how much HP is that in the real world. Just asking.

[LmeaViper]

They both still have some drone but much less than the stock mufflers.
Compared to stock, to me the Corsa are like if you would turn the Volume up 2 notches and the Treble up 1
With the American Racing it's like you turn the Volume down 1 notch and up the Bass 2 notches.

Can you use the same analogy for your combined headers + your catback...compared to stock. I don't want to go louder than stock as the cops here started giving noise tickets as of lately.
thks

[vegasgtr]

Just curious if the aftermarket cat back exhaust make HP? the stock is a straight through design. Just wondering were they make up the HP over the stocker. It is said to flow 18% better but wondering how much HP is that in the real world. Just asking.

I think its b/c the cats are off the Catback , Similar to a GTR getting a mid pipe without cats. At least that is what Paul PDV told me.

[viper04]

I think its b/c the cats are off the Catback , Similar to a GTR getting a mid pipe without cats. At least that is what Paul PDV told me.

The exhaust you have posted in your first post is just a cat back system. It does not get rid of the cats it bolts on to the factory cats. Just wondering if it has been tested independently by any members. I know it will sound different and some say help with drone but was really wondering if it makes any HP.

[vegasgtr]

The exhaust you have posted in your first post is just a cat back system. It does not get rid of the cats it bolts on to the factory cats. Just wondering if it has been tested independently by any members. I know it will sound different and some say help with drone but was really wondering if it makes any HP.

I thought there were 4 cats on these cars? 1 of them is on this section? this blows.

[DZnutz]

^ that is correct (4 cats), this is also why this exhaust is called a CAT-back... it starts at the last factory converter

I hope FLATOUT does not mind but here is a photo of the factory cats... they are all on the same 1 piece pipe section

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7510/15860081445_afd306ec0f_b.jpg

[SilveRT8]

Got a set of Corsa Extreme for sale $800 shipped. They were on my car for one summer, 3k miles.

Corsa mufflers are sold, on their way to meet Viktimize's Viper !

[SilveRT8]

Can you use the same analogy for your combined headers + your catback...compared to stock. I don't want to go louder than stock as the cops here started giving noise tickets as of lately.
thks

I have not installed the headers yet, but from past experience it will make the car louder, like turning the volume up at least 2 notches with H/F cats and 4 without cats.

[vegasgtr]

^ that is correct (4 cats), this is also why this exhaust is called a CAT-back... it starts at the last factory converter

I hope FLATOUT does not mind but here is a photo of the factory cats... they are all on the same 1 piece pipe section

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7510/15860081445_afd306ec0f_b.jpg

well that might be a waste of money.. shit. I hope it sounds good lol.

[vegasgtr]

anyone sell the L part separate? should i want to get rid of the cats?

[viper04]

anyone sell the L part separate? should i want to get rid of the cats?

To me the cat's are the restrictive part of the exhaust more so than the mufflers. They use two different type of cats. The front ones are the " honeycomb ceramics" and the rears use "metal foil" cats. Roe racing did a dyno test a few years ago GEN 3/4 and picked up 18-21 HP by removing the cats. Hope someone makes them for the Gen 5 soon. The stock mufflers are a straight through design as are the Corsa,I think it will sound good by the way but picking up HP not sure?

http://www.roeracing.com/productcart/pc/3-Cat-Delete-Mid-Pipes-with-Flex-Joint-2003-2010-Dodge-Viper-215p500.htm

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

I dont want to burst a bubble, but: THE YEAR MATTERS ! The happy guy above may have a G2 by his avatar. IRRELEVANT to G 5!!!

Corsa does a fantastic job at eliminating drone and resonance from 1996.5 - 2010.

The revised Gen 5 system "Minimizes" the drone, and puts it in a different, less invasive rev band. And its different on 2015 than 2013-4 due to the gearing. MINIMIZED but not -gone- and Vegas you sure dont owe me ANY apology! You even ASKED if any Vendor was recommened... [I blame the OTHER 1642 owners who did not say "JONB" !!!]

The HP gains are actually minumal, single-digit. Hard to 'prove' due to dyno accuracy of 9 HP.

COOL TEMPS, Better Tone , more decibel volume, and better flow are the primary reasons to switch.

[viper04]

I dont want to burst a bubble, but: THE YEAR MATTERS ! The happy guy above may have a G2 by his avatar. IRRELEVANT to G 5!!!

Corsa does a fantastic job at eliminating drone and resonance from 1996.5 - 2010.

The revised Gen 5 system "Minimizes" the drone, and puts it in a different, less invasive rev band. And its different on 2015 than 2013-4 due to the gearing. MINIMIZED but not -gone- and Vegas you sure dont owe me ANY apology! You even ASKED if any Vendor was recommened... [I blame the OTHER 1642 owners who did not say "JONB" !!!]

The HP gains are actually minumal, single-digit. Hard to 'prove' due to dyno accuracy of 9 HP.

COOL TEMPS, Better Tone , more decibel volume, and better flow are the primary reasons to switch.

lol! No bubble burst here Jon! I consider you a Viper guru and you have been around for as long as I can remember and you know Vipers. Dig a little deeper and you will see the Avarta is a G3 not G2 ( Bad picture of last year IL VOA summer cruise) . I also own a G5, so this "happy guy" is very happy thanks. So like you said "THE YEAR MATTERS" I have never seen any dyno test done by any of the member and that's all I was asking I'm sure it's out there some were but just never seen any, and wondering what are the real world gains seeing the stock is a straight through design and also what I was told by SRT in regards to the viper muffles. If you also dig a little bit deeper you will see that we have meet before the last time you were in Wisconsin attending Road America, Ralph Gilles placed 3th in that race, we also talked a few weeks ago about some parts I order. Do you remember me now? :) I order parts for my G3 and G5 from you.Thanks
Happy guy.

[TexasTonka]

If anyone is interested i ordered my 2015 TA2.0 with the stage II package from Viper Exchange, I had my entire American Racing exhaust system coated by Polydyn Coatings for heat from headers to tips. I am replacing the ARH cat back system if anyone is interested in it. It has about 500 miles on it and is fully ceramic coated black to reduce heat as much as possible. Retail on ARH website for this stainless set up is $1920, mine has the coating but is used so make me a reasonable offer if interested. I am in San Antonio, TX.

The ARH cat back is a much richer, deeper exhaust sound than stock.

[Stealth]

Can you use the same analogy for your combined headers + your catback...compared to stock. I don't want to go louder than stock as the cops here started giving noise tickets as of lately.
thks

Most do not change exhaust to go quieter...

I have Corsa plus Arrow PCM and:

1. Corsa is quieter than Stock below 2,000 rpms but louder on throttle.

2. Both have some drone.

[vegasgtr]

Most do not change exhaust to go quieter...

I have Corsa plus Arrow PCM and:

1. Corsa is quieter than Stock below 2,000 rpms but louder on throttle.

2. Both have some drone.

did the tune and exhaust wake up the car?

[G37Sam]

did the tune and exhaust wake up the car?

I don't know about you, but my stock Viper is faaaaaar from asleep haha

[Stealth]

did the tune and exhaust wake up the car?

Well, the car was already awesome, but I do like it better with the changes. It is a bit more aggressive sounding and smoother running. This is not a daily driver for me so I like it a bit more spirited.

As noted in another thread, the Arrow PCM appears to just be the tune that SRT prefers for the car. Smoother idle, a bit lower tone, LOTS of decal burble (so you will clutch to neutral or just clutch in on cost-down and not engine brake where noise is an issue), etc. The car may rev quicker but hard to say for sure. I also understand that the rev limited has been raised by 200 rpms or something but this is rarely an issue with my use (no need to live at redline). There does not appear to be any significant increase in power with these changes, although I am sure there is a little--it felt like it had smooth, linear power before and after. NOTE: I am in SoCal running 91 Octane, so my gains would be incrementally less than someone running 93. The Corsa Exhaust definitely makes the car sound more lively. I will say that Gen V Stock Exhaust is far better sounding than Gen IV Stock Exhaust (I had a Gen IV and also added the Corsa Exhaust).

[Viktimize]

Corsas just showed up on my doorstep from FedEx today :D Can't wait to install and see how they sound. I would like to get that Arrow PCM as well. More so because I have heard it gets rid of the terrible throttle lag that screws up all your smooth shifts, and less because of power gains.

[LmeaViper]

Corsas just showed up on my doorstep from FedEx today :D Can't wait to install and see how they sound. I would like to get that Arrow PCM as well. More so because I have heard it gets rid of the terrible throttle lag that screws up all your smooth shifts, and less because of power gains.

Wonder where a guy could get the APCM installed here in Alta?

[Viktimize]

Wonder where a guy could get the APCM installed here in Alta?

Mine will be installed in my garage when I go through with buying it.

[darbgnik]

Seems like any dealership can perform the learn procedure.

[Viktimize]

Seems like any dealership can perform the learn procedure.

I know a guy that does work under the table at Sherwood Dodge for that.

[v10tt]

Stock vs. Belanger :

https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/1606431_10152646413867737_8902695949885367856_o.jp g

[G37Sam]

Look at all that restriction!!

[98intrigue]

Those headers are a thing of beauty! What's the diameter of the piping after the cats? Looks like it is reduced compared to the 3" collector. Have you had a chance to dyno yours yet? Your mod list is exactly what I want (I'm half way there).

[v10tt]

It is all supposed to be 3" cat back, and 1-3/4" primaries.

[Steve M]

It is all supposed to be 3" cat back, and 1-3/4" primaries.

The picture you showed looks like it necks down to the stock 2.5" diameter leading into the muffler...

[v10tt]

My system is 3" cat back, I picked up that pick from the net (not from my car), might be the angle of the pic though. Their full headers/cats/ exhaust is 3" to the tail pipes.

[SilveRT8]

You can get both sizes from Belanger.
Their standard system is 3" after the cats, connecting to 3" mufflers
You can also get, like I did and the pic above, a neck down to 2 1/2" after the cats to fit the stock mufflers wich have a 2 1/2" inlet going into a 3" mufflers.

[Viktimize]

Is there some installation secrets for doing a cat back exhaust on this car, besides beating the living hell out of it with a big hammer to get that slide joint on far enough? I need another 2" forward and that thing will not budge by hand.

[darbgnik]

Nothing good happens this late in the day ;)

[Viktimize]

Nothing good happens this late in the day ;)


Yup. That's why I left it and made a quick post before bed. 2 hours of sleep later and I was up for work today. Probably not going to touch it tonight either.

[vegasgtr]

I paid 200$ bucks yesterday to have installed. every time i tackle a project i hate myself..lol

[Viktimize]

I paid 200$ bucks yesterday to have installed. every time i tackle a project i hate myself..lol


Probably a better idea than me laying on the ground with no lift. Maybe I'll just pop the other side sill off and drive her naked to the exhaust shop I trust here.

[darbgnik]

Probably a better idea than me laying on the ground with no lift. Maybe I'll just pop the other side sill off and drive her naked to the exhaust shop I trust here.

I often thought this was the best idea, for keeping the side sills safe, but you'll have to remind them to take the measurements of where the tips should land, and the angle, as they wont be able to test fit the sills if you have them.

[Viktimize]

I often thought this was the best idea, for keeping the side sills safe, but you'll have to remind them to take the measurements of where the tips should land, and the angle, as they wont be able to test fit the sills if you have them.

Hopefully they can just take measurements beforehand and line up the new pipes where the old ones where. But worst case I can just load the sills in the truck and make 2 trips out there.