Thanks to JonB, a new world record!!

[Dajerseyviper]

I stopped posting on here cause I simply dont like the moderation staff, leadership and atmosphere, but just wanted to share my super positive experiences with JonB. Afted spinning my car off the road into a grass median after doing a 720* spin on the highway due to hockey puck, dry rotted tires with date codes of 2008 and 2009, I ordered a set of Toyo R888's from JonB. I opted for the 295 up front, and he was $40 cheaper delivered than tire rack BUT, the tires were delivered to my installer in world record time...23 hours and 30 minutes from the time of order..That is unheard of!!!

just figured I would share my experiences!!! Cant wait to pick up the car from the install shop.. I have driven the R888's on a 550hp TT car in the past and loved them, Im sure they are great on the viper!

[stuntman]

295/30-18 R888? Any rubbing at full lock? What's on the rear?

[dave6666]

I run 295 on an 11" wide wheel on the front and don't rub.

[stuntman]

Does a 295/30-18 fit on a factory 18x10 without rubbing?

[Dajerseyviper]

Does a 295/30-18 fit on a factory 18x10 without rubbing?

Why wouldnt it? I have the 335/30/18 on the rears. Havent gotten the car back yet to test out.

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

Thanks Rat !Many Viper owners choose 295, 305, or even 315 fronts. I have run 315 fronts since 1994, on 17" or 18" fronts. Secret Weapon.[After 22 years of Vipering, 'Would JonB Sell a tire that wont fit?!" ]

[stuntman]

Jon, so I take it the 295/30-18 fits on a factory 18x10 since you sell them? Does a 295/35-18 fit on an 18x10 on a gen 2 without rubbing or having issues opening the hood with the wheels straight?

[Dajerseyviper]

Jon, so I take it the 295/30-18 fits on a factory 18x10 since you sell them? Does a 295/35-18 fit on an 18x10 on a gen 2 without rubbing or having issues opening the hood with the wheels straight?

I believe that is what the man just said.

[Sybil TF]

295/30-18 R888? Any rubbing at full lock? What's on the rear?Toyo's and Nitto's run smaller than say a Michelin. 295 is more like a 275...

[stuntman]

I believe that is what the man just said.
The question is if 295/35-18 fits without rubbing/opening the hood (on the 18x10) since 295/30-18 is a lower profile/diameter than the factory 275/35-18.

Jon didn't answer my question 3 months ago in this thread either :(

http://driveviper.com/forums/threads/7089-Best-Replacement-Tire-Options/page2

A lot of people seem to throw widths around without specifying the aspect ratio -which is huge determining factor of the tire's size.



Toyo's and Nitto's run smaller than say a Michelin. 295 is more like a 275...
In my experience, R888s run pretty wide.

[Sybil TF]

The question is if 295/35-18 fits without rubbing/opening the hood (on the 18x10) since 295/30-18 is a lower profile/diameter than the factory 275/35-18.

Jon didn't answer my question 3 months ago in this thread either :(

http://driveviper.com/forums/threads/7089-Best-Replacement-Tire-Options/page2

A lot of people seem to throw widths around without specifying the aspect ratio -which is huge determining factor of the tire's size.



In my experience, R888s run pretty wide.We have compared them side by side and measured them. Trust me they are noticeably smaller mounted on the same width rim.

[dave6666]

295.

30.

19.

11 x 19.

Does not rub.

Done.

[octopus]

I'm considering these tires. I've been reading up on them a bit. Where did you end up getting them installed? I'm not far from you and may do the same thing and order from JonB of course. I'd just be looking to do R888's in whatever tire sizes would work best on stock Gen II wheels. I may lower the car in the future as well so I guess it'd be best to get stock sizes?

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

Jon, so I take it the 295/30-18 fits on a factory 18x10 since you sell them? Does a 295/35-18 fit on an 18x10 on a gen 2 without rubbing or having issues opening the hood with the wheels straight?

YES and YES. Even on most lowered cars.

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

I'm considering these tires. I've been reading up on them a bit. Where did you end up getting them installed? I'm not far from you and may do the same thing and order from JonB of course. I'd just be looking to do R888's in whatever tire sizes would work best on stock Gen II wheels. I may lower the car in the future as well so I guess it'd be best to get stock sizes?

Thanks Octo: Even G2s lowered with springs or caps, or coilovers, a 295-30-18 front is NOT too wide in the R888.

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

The question is if 295/35-18 fits without rubbing/opening the hood (on the 18x10) since 295/30-18 is a lower profile/diameter than the factory 275/35-18.

Jon didn't answer my question 3 months ago in this thread either :(

http://driveviper.com/forums/threads/7089-Best-Replacement-Tire-Options/page2

A lot of people seem to throw widths around without specifying the aspect ratio -which is huge determining factor of the tire's size.

In my experience, R888s run pretty wide.

Your experience with R888s is perhaps not as extensive as others.

You can choose R888s in 275-35 or 295-30- 18 with NO fear of rubbing........I would not recomend a 295-35-18 because it is too tall vs OE, not because it is wider than OE.......

[stuntman]

We have compared them side by side and measured them. Trust me they are noticeably smaller mounted on the same width rim.
I appreciate the help, but i'm quite familiar with R888s having run them before they were in production as well as on over 15 track cars. I'm not sure what to make of your findings when:

(section width - tread widths):

Front: 18x10

275/35-18 PS2 "C1" = 10.9" - NA (probably a 10")
275/35-18 PSS = 10.9" - 10"
275/35-18 R888 = 11" - 10.4"
285/30-18 R888 - 11.3" - 10.8"
285/35-18 PS2 - 11.4" - 10.6"
285/35-18 PSS - 11.4" - 10.2"
295/30-18 PS2 (there are 3 different Porsche sizes) - 11.9" - NA/11.5"
295/30-18 Corsa System - 11.9" - 10.8"
295/30-18 R888 - 11.8" - 11.2"
295/35-18 PSS - 11.9" - 10.8"


Rear 19x13 & 20x13:

345/30-19 PSS - 13.8" - 13"
345/30-19 R888 - 13.8" - 12.5"
345/35-19 Corsa System - 13.6" - NA
355/30-19 Corsa System - 14.2" - 13.5"
335/30-20 PSS - 13.5" - 13"
335/30-20 Corsa System - 13.8" - 13.1"
345/30-20 PSS - 14" - 12.7" (seems odd)
345/30-20 Corsa System - 13.8" - 11.2" (seems odd for the tread width, maybe typo and should be 13.2"?, or maybe not from the PSS above)


YES and YES. Even on most lowered cars.
Thank you! :)


Your experience with R888s is perhaps not as extensive as others.

You can choose R888s in 275-35 or 295-30- 18 with NO fear of rubbing........I would not recomend a 295-35-18 because it is too tall vs OE, not because it is wider than OE.......
I'm very familiar with them (read above).

You seem to be contradicting yourself a little (post #14). Given the dimensions (above), the 295/35-18 R888 is very similar in section width, tread width, and outer diameter as a 295/35-18 PSS.

So would you still recommend a 295/35-18 on the front of a Gen 2 using a 18x10?

.

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

The question is if 295/35-18 fits without rubbing/opening the hood (on the 18x10) since 295/30-18 is a lower profile/diameter than the factory 275/35-18.

Jon didn't answer my question 3 months ago in this thread either :(

http://driveviper.com/forums/threads/7089-Best-Replacement-Tire-Options/page2



Excuuuusee Meeee! Sorry I did not return to see that thread's final TWO posts! I also missed pastohio's ?? about Nitrogen fill.

To elaborate, the general rule of thumb with oversizing is called a ''Plus 1 = Minus 1.'' [Or +2/-2 etc etc,] where tread witdh and sidewall ratios are the 2 variables. This is why a 295-35-18 is too tall vs a 275-35-18 OE, but a 295-30-18 is generally OK. The only Gen 1-2 'Hood Opening' issues are on the +3/-2 fitments with 20" fronts/rears, or 19" fronts with too-tall sidewall such as -35 series.

If its any consolation, I did answer about 15,000 other questions since 1994! You could always post important or neglected questions here, it seems to be a hoppin' place:

http://driveviper.com/forums/forums/130-Tech-Team-Advice

[stuntman]

Excuuuusee Meeee! Sorry I did not return to see that thread's final TWO posts! I also missed pastohio's ?? about Nitrogen fill.

To elaborate, the general rule of thumb with oversizing is called a ''Plus 1 = Minus 1.'' [Or +2/-2 etc etc,] where tread witdh and sidewall ratios are the 2 variables. This is why a 295-35-18 is too tall vs a 275-35-18 OE, but a 295-30-18 is generally OK.
You are saying that 295/35-18 is too tall on an 18x10 for the front of a Gen 2. There are some people running around with that setup but I was a little unsure on it's fitment. It's unfortunate that Michelin does not make a PSS in a 295/30-18 :(

I appreciate the time/help.


The only Gen 1-2 'Hood Opening' issues are on the +3/-2 fitments with 20" fronts/rears, or 19" fronts with too-tall sidewall such as -35 series.

If its any consolation, I did answer about 15,000 other questions since 1994! You could always post important or neglected questions here, it seems to be a hoppin' place:

http://driveviper.com/forums/forums/130-Tech-Team-Advice
Now you are saying that 295/35-19 is too tall.


So does that mean that a 295/30-19 (like Dave runs) works?

FYI:

295/30-19 has a 26" OD
295/35-18 has a 26.1" OD

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

....So would you still recommend a 295/35-18 on the front of a Gen 2 using a 18x10?

.


'Are you still beating your wife' ? "Still Recommend" ?

I did not 'recommend' that fitment at all, and I simply missed your earlier question about it. I suggest 295-30-18.

[stuntman]

I did not 'recommend' that fitment at all, and I simply missed your earlier question about it. I suggest 295-30-18.
You contradicted yourself, which is why I was asking for clarification.

Edit - Can you answer the above question on post #19?

[Dajerseyviper]

The question is if 295/35-18 fits without rubbing/opening the hood (on the 18x10) since 295/30-18 is a lower profile/diameter than the factory 275/35-18.

Jon didn't answer my question 3 months ago in this thread either :(

http://driveviper.com/forums/threads/7089-Best-Replacement-Tire-Options/page2

A lot of people seem to throw widths around without specifying the aspect ratio -which is huge determining factor of the tire's size.



In my experience, R888s run pretty wide.

Im running a 295/30/18, fits perfect looks better than the BFG 275 which looked "stretched" a little on the front OEM wheels. The feel with the bigger tires up front really tightens up the steering and makes it feel a bit heavier if that makes sense.. Traction is SICKENING GOOD!!!! hell yeah, no more wheel hop..

[Dajerseyviper]

I'm considering these tires. I've been reading up on them a bit. Where did you end up getting them installed? I'm not far from you and may do the same thing and order from JonB of course. I'd just be looking to do R888's in whatever tire sizes would work best on stock Gen II wheels. I may lower the car in the future as well so I guess it'd be best to get stock sizes?

exactly what I ordered. 295/30/18 and 335/30/18 perfect set up bro!

[Dajerseyviper]

You are saying that 295/35-18 is too tall on an 18x10 for the front of a Gen 2. There are some people running around with that setup but I was a little unsure on it's fitment. It's unfortunate that Michelin does not make a PSS in a 295/30-18 :(

I appreciate the time/help.


Now you are saying that 295/35-19 is too tall.


So does that mean that a 295/30-19 (like Dave runs) works?

FYI:

295/30-19 has a 26" OD
295/35-18 has a 26.1" OD

I dont think the R888 comes in a 295/35/18 fyi.

[Dajerseyviper]

You contradicted yourself, which is why I was asking for clarification.

Edit - Can you answer the above question on post #19?

Dude, give it a rest...295/30 fits and Im sure a 295/35 would fit on a stock rim.

[stuntman]

I dont think the R888 comes in a 295/35/18 fyi.
I'm not looking to run R888s. I'm interested in running PSS.


Dude, give it a rest...295/30 fits and Im sure a 295/35 would fit on a stock rim.
This lack of details is killing me...

295/30-18 fits a 18x10 on a Gen 2, it's the Gen 4 ACR factory tire. I get it.

Jon said a 295/35-19 is too large which leads to the assumption that the 295/30-19 might work (which is what Dave runs), and a 295/30-19 has the same OD as a 295/35-18 which Jon says does not work.

[Dajerseyviper]

I'm not looking to run R888s. I'm interested in running PSS.


This lack of details is killing me...

295/30-18 fits a 18x10 on a Gen 2, it's the Gen 4 ACR factory tire. I get it.

Jon said a 295/35-19 is too large which leads to the assumption that the 295/30-19 might work (which is what Dave runs), and a 295/30-19 has the same OD as a 295/35-18 which Jon says does not work.

Use a tire size calculator and see what the differences in height and width are. Usually up to 1" even 1.5" usually clears on stock suspension cars. Keep in mind if a tire is 1" wider, thats only .5" on each side wider, the height is what would worry me on any car. You cant roll fiberglass fenders..lol

[dave6666]

My 19 x 11 F are +1, 0, not +.5, .5 ref width.

[octopus]

exactly what I ordered. 295/30/18 and 335/30/18 perfect set up bro!

Sweet! I'll probably go with that as well. Where'd you spin out at? I'll be avoiding that road, for sure haha.. Hopefully you didn't damage anything and were able to get back on the road with just some fresh tires.

[stuntman]

Dave, does your hood touch your tire when opening the hood? Are you at stock ride height or did u get the BCs on?

[Dajerseyviper]

My 19 x 11 F are +1, 0, not +.5, .5 ref width.

a 1" wider tire on the same exact offset rim will be .5" wider "PER SIDE" although the tire is 1" wider total, the width is measured from the centerline, for clearance purposes of course.

[Dajerseyviper]

Sweet! I'll probably go with that as well. Where'd you spin out at? I'll be avoiding that road, for sure haha.. Hopefully you didn't damage anything and were able to get back on the road with just some fresh tires.

On a 2 lane highway spun from the right lane to the left and into a center median. Thank god it was all grass, and the curb had just ended and I just passed a tree..No damage just some dust in my mouth and eyes.. I just felt my old tires and they actually felt like an actual hockey puck.

[Dajerseyviper]

Dave, does your hood touch your tire when opening the hood? Are you at stock ride height or did u get the BCs on?

Where would the hood touch the tires??Just curious.

[octopus]

On a 2 lane highway spun from the right lane to the left and into a center median. Thank god it was all grass, and the curb had just ended and I just passed a tree..No damage just some dust in my mouth and eyes.. I just felt my old tires and they actually felt like an actual hockey puck.

Wow! Luck was on your side man... Cleared all the obstacles lol. Glad you and the car made it out alright. I was going to go for a little spin this morning but threatening skies said otherwise. I bet you want to get out there too.

[stuntman]

Where would the hood touch the tires??Just curious.
Back side of the front tires when the hood is popped, not fully open. The gap gets smaller/hits worse when lowering the car.

I found these quotes from years ago:


I'm running a 295/30/19 (26" OD) on the front, 11" wide wheel, on my stock sprung '01 GTS. There are no rub issues except very slight when closing the hood. Not enough to need to do anything but be aware of it.


I run a 295/35/18 on my 18X11 rim up front. Im lowered with Eibachs. No rubbing issues while driving, but to open/close my hood the tires have to be turned all the way to the right.

Both of these setups have the same 11" wide wheel and their OD is within 0.1" but dun's car is lowered which makes the hood to tire interference (when popped) worse.

It seems that a 295/35-18 or 295/30-19 (26.0-26.1" ODs) work alright at stock ride heights with minimal touching when opening the hood, but when lowered it can cause problems and requires the tires being turned to open the hood.

This is unfortunate since a lowered car using either of these wheels would look pretty good and fill out the wheel wells compared to the smaller OD 295/30-18.

Now I'm wondering if the 25.9" OD 285/35-18 or even the factory 25.6" OD 275/35-18 will have issues opening the hood when lowered...

Edit - adding more quotes:

Hey Dom,

I actually just purchased the KW Variant 2 Coilovers for my car. You must have a 96 or 97.. can't tell from your default picture, but either way our cars are the same when having them lowered. How many fingers can you put between the tire and the fender wall? I was actually speaking with Bill Pemberton and he strongly advised me not to lower the car too much since my front tires could possibly rub up against the hood causing it harm. This worries me greatly, so I thought I would ask how low your car is before I get mine lowered next friday/saturday. By the way, below are my tire sizes since I'm sure this will make a difference if your tires aren't the same as mine.

Michelin Pilot Sport 2, 295/30/ZR19
Michelin Pilot Sport 2, 335/30/ZR20

costanZo , I think have the same Front tire size as you as i have 19's all around. Only Eibach springs here. No clearance issues besides when i pop the hood the corner slightly rubs the tire. So i see why people say with both srings&caps or bigger wheels like 20's need to turn the wheel or something to get the hood open. With the KW's you have the ability to adjust to whatever hieght you like. If your into performance i suggest finding an alignment shop that does cornerbalancing.

I pulled my spring caps and went back to stock. I was rubbing over EVERY bump, even driving slowly, with a 7/16" drop from the caps and 1" from the springs.

For future reference for future lowerers:

19/20 wheel setup
Michelin PS2s
Front: 275/30-19 (25.6" tall tire)
Rear: 335/30-20 (28" tall tire)
Front Lowered: 1.4375" (Intrax springs and ART caps)
Rear Lowered: 1" (Intrax springs)
NO RUBBING

The extra 7/16"(rear lowered) it was dropped in the rear made all the difference in the world. When I lose 1.2" of tire when I switch to a 25 sidewall on Nittos or Toyos, I'll put the caps back in. Hope this helps.

My hood just BAAAAAARELY touches the tires with the PS2 setup when I open the hood, but not enough to where I have to cut the wheels like guys with a 20/20 setup.
^that answers my question. A 275/35-18 will just barely touch the hood when lowered ~1.5"

[dave6666]

What damn difference does it make when something that doesn't matter happens? LMAO you are a trip man. Do you go over your car with feeler gauges every time you drive it? Just to be sure it's still it spec since the drive 10 minutes ago? You take anal to obnoxious. Would hate to be your car.

[dave6666]

a 1" wider tire on the same exact offset rim will be .5" wider "PER SIDE" although the tire is 1" wider total, the width is measured from the centerline, for clearance purposes of course.

The edge, where it would rub, where it matters based on the additional width placement, is how I described mine. But yes, you are correct that any wheel that you add one inch to gains one half inch from it's centerline outboard.

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

What damn difference does it make when something that doesn't matter happens? LMAO you are a trip man. Do you go over your car with feeler gauges every time you drive it? Just to be sure it's still it spec since the drive 10 minutes ago? You take anal to obnoxious. Would hate to be your car.


The Sky Is Falling



ps: JonB said 'too tall' [vs -30 series,] not 'too large.' Its different.

pps JonB also did NOT say it 'wont fit' HIS car....I dunno about yours. Mods Matter, Wheel matter, Miles matter.

ppps JonB also said that 'most hood-clearance issues G1 and G2 are with 20" fronts' [or too-tall -35 series 19" fronts.)

pppps: Did you know that between manufacturers, a 295-30-18 from one mfr may NOT be the same dimensions as a 295-30-18 from another? FACT! It is a common misconception that 'tire math is math' and that is not so. Viper examples abound, with C1 vs Non- C1 PS and PS2 tires, and again now with 3:55-30-19 tires as illustrated in new VQ.\
Believe it or not, a 275-35-18 PS1, PS2, and PSS all from Michelin have DIFFERENT DIMENSIONS!!!

[It does not sound like you'll be buying any tires from me anyway, so GOOD LUCK with your research quest.]

[slovenom]

You take anal to obnoxious. Would hate to be your car"

what Dave said. ... just let it go man! !!:t0152:

[AZTVR]

As an independent observer, stuntman, I also find your online attitude to be off putting just as much as the others. Expecting that every word be read posted on a forum, and be responded to with exactitude and expecting that there will be no confusion or misunderstanding. This is why the internet and emails fail as human conversation.

[SNKEBIT]

As an independent observer, stuntman, I also find your online attitude to be off putting just as much as the others. Expecting that every word be read posted on a forum, and be responded to with exactitude and expecting that there will be no confusion or misunderstanding. This is why the internet and emails fail as human conversation.


^^^^^^^^^this^^^^^^^^^^

[RT SERPENT]

These last 2 posts are gold!!!!

For the record, I'm running the Toyo R888's (which I purchased from JonB) on my Gen 2,
Stock wheels, lowering caps (bringing down the ride height about 3/4")
Front: 315/30R18
Rear: 335/30R18

They grip like a mofo on the track, and I've never had any rubbing issues.
(Unless you're driving with your hood popped (which most Viper owners would not recommend!) they work great.

[sparkrn]

Jon shouldn't answer any of your questions, you need to be more respectful and thankful for free advice! You know who you are.

[Rizzo]

Yes. Jon B is an ass. Once I ordered tires from him and they arrived a day early. AND he sold them to me cheaper than anyone else would. Another time I ordered an intake from him. Damn if it didnt show up early too and with a bunch of free goodies in it. Worst was last year when he had some free Nurburgring decals for my ACR he couriered them to me but instead of having the courier deliver them direct to my desk I had to actually get off my fat ass and walk to reception to pick up my free decals. I hate customer service like that. :):very_drunk: LOL.

[Dajerseyviper]

MY tires arrive before I even ordered them...lol..Talk about a thread derailment.

[Sybil TF]

The Sky Is Falling



ps: JonB said 'too tall' [vs -30 series,] not 'too large.' Its different.


pppps: Did you know that between manufacturers, a 295-30-18 from one mfr may NOT be the same dimensions as a 295-30-18 from another? FACT!
Believe it or not, a 275-35-18 PS1, PS2, and PSS all from Michelin have DIFFERENT DIMENSIONS!!!


Yes , that is what I said. LOL Nitto and Toyos run noticeably smaller when mounted on the same rim and compared side by side with a Mich. or Goodyear etc...

[octopus]

Can you give us a little review on how you're liking the tires thus far? I know you probably haven't had too much seat time with them yet but I've been wondering. I did a little more reading and though the tires are very sticky, I heard they're LOUD on the road. Is this true in your opinion? Any other comments (positive or negative) about the R888's? Thanks man.

[plumcrazy]

tires too loud ? cant imagine that being an issue for most viper owners....maybe if you have a stock exhaust ?

[Dajerseyviper]

Can you give us a little review on how you're liking the tires thus far? I know you probably haven't had too much seat time with them yet but I've been wondering. I did a little more reading and though the tires are very sticky, I heard they're LOUD on the road. Is this true in your opinion? Any other comments (positive or negative) about the R888's? Thanks man.

I havent noticed any noise from them over the BFG's I had. They are very sticky, I cant loose the tail and drift it going around a turn if I tried anymore..!st to 2nd gear "chirp" and squat and hooks...I dont know if it is the wider tire up front or just the sticky tire, but the steering feels heavier, tighter and more feedback from the road. I need to check tire pressures, dont know what the place set them at, but the ride feels a little harsher for sure. What is the recommended PSI for warm weather street use??

[thetalonguy]

What is the recommended PSI for warm weather street use??

I've been doing 30psi at all corners.

BTW, I love mine. I don't notice any extra road noise, but as Plum pointed out our cars are generally louder in other areas. Rough ride and noise are not of my concern in this car. I'm so happy the JonB put me in these.

Also, drove home in the rain last weekend and they were fine. Stay clear of standing water.

[octopus]

Thanks guys. I saw a couple reviews that mentioned the tires were "unbearably loud" or something of the sort.. Just wanted to confirm whether that was true or not.

BTW I'm running 32psi all the way around .

[SA Heat]

Thanks guys. I saw a couple reviews that mentioned the tires were "unbearably loud" or something of the sort.. Just wanted to confirm whether that was true or not.

BTW I'm running 32psi all the way around .

I had R888s on OZs on my Gen2 and they made a little more noise than the PS2s I had on the stock wheels, but nothing bad. They have really stiff sidewalls. so the ride was more noticeable.

[Dajerseyviper]

They have really stiff sidewalls. so the ride was more noticeable.

Agreed, that must be the cause.

[octopus]

Any pics of the setup ^^^?! I'm curious how the fronts look. If nobody has any other recommendations for tires for me (no track use, just street.. so maybe R888's would be a wise second choice?) then I'll go with the Toyo's.

[dave6666]

tires too loud ? cant imagine that being an issue for most viper owners....maybe if you have a stock exhaust ?

3" side exhaust cures car noises.

[thetalonguy]

Any pics of the setup ^^^?! I'm curious how the fronts look. If nobody has any other recommendations for tires for me (no track use, just street.. so maybe R888's would be a wise second choice?) then I'll go with the Toyo's.

http://driveviper.com/forums/threads/8607-Black-Oz-Wheels-on-Graphite-Metallic-GTS

Here are pics of my setup

[octopus]

Thanks Matt... The OZ's look great on your car!

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

I can do that same setup for you too !