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stolen2002GTS
06-06-2015, 03:39 AM
I'm sorry if I'm posting this in the incorrect forum, if so mods can you please relocate it to the correct one.

My 2002 Dodge Viper GTS was stolen this evening by a young white male in his 20's. Had tattoo's on his left hand (Looked like an H or R) on his right hand (Looked like a S or $) and left wrist(Louis Vuitton print tattoo - seriously?). Quick summary - we went on a test drive and closed the deal, we proceeded back to my house to count the cash and sign the paperwork. I ran out to the garage while my girlfriend was printing out the bill of sale. He snatched the keys, ran out the door and sped off in the car. All authorities have been contacted, any help from my fellow viper enthusiasts would be great. Please see details and pictures below.

2002 Dodge Viper GTS 263/500 Final Edition
Red/White stripes
Black/red seats
Stock except for muffler delete
Front bumper on driver side had a small chunk missing
CA License plate 7GYX603
VIN: 1B3ER69E02V102693

Any info please give me a call at 925-354-3622

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stolen2002GTS
06-06-2015, 03:39 AM
I'm sorry if I'm posting this in the incorrect forum, if so mods can you please relocate it to the correct one.

My 2002 Dodge Viper GTS was stolen this evening by a young white male in his 20's. Had tattoo's on his left (Looked like an H or R) an right hands (Looked like a S or $) and left wrist(Louis Vuitton print tatto- seriously?). Quick summary - we went on a test drive and closed the deal, we proceeded back to my house to count the cash and sign the paperwork. I ran out to the garage while my girlfriend was printing out the bill of sale. He snatched the keys, ran out the door and sped off in the car. All authorities have been contacted, any help from my fellow viper enthusiasts would be great. Please see details and pictures below.

2002 Dodge Viper GTS 263/500 Final Edition
Red/White stripes
Black/red seats
Stock except for muffler delete
Front bumper on driver side had a small chunk missing
CA License plate 7GYX603
VIN: 1B3ER69E02V102693

Any info please give me a call at 925-354-3622

http://i59.tinypic.com/mt73b5.jpg
http://i59.tinypic.com/1y23ko.jpg
http://i58.tinypic.com/9rixdu.jpg
http://i59.tinypic.com/33wqq0y.jpg
http://i62.tinypic.com/1zxa7o6.jpg
http://i62.tinypic.com/24xm7ub.jpg

Fatboy 18
06-06-2015, 04:32 AM
WTF!!!! Really? What a son of a Bitch. Did he say where he was from prior to closing the deal (where he worked or who he knew), do you have a contact number or email address?

How did he find you? Were you advertising the car on eBay or something? You might be able to make a claim?

Did he take the cash too? You said you were counting it? Did he get the title?

Also posted this on Viper Alley for you.

Fatboy 18
06-06-2015, 04:32 AM
WTF!!!! Really? What a son of a Bitch. Did he say where he was from prior to closing the deal (where he worked or who he knew), do you have a contact number or email address?

How did he find you? Were you advertising the car on eBay or something? You might be able to make a claim?

Did he take the cash too? You said you were counting it? Did he get the title?

Also posted this on Viper Alley for you.

stolen2002GTS
06-06-2015, 05:05 AM
I did not get any of the cash as he bolted before we started to count. He said his name was Ryan however that is probably fake. I do have texts with him but both the cops and I believe it's a burner phone. He did not get the title, it is now in police hands as he handled it just seconds before he stole the car and they are going to try and lift a print. I believe he was a Las Vegas local as he knew his way around North Vegas and certain landmarks/areas that tourists would not know. Car was advertised on Craigslist. The guy didn't seem so bright as to be a professional (then again he got the car) seemed almost like he would be the type to steal it and joyride which I'm hoping is the case.

Only thing that could be a lead - he made up a story saying he wanted a Viper because his mom had one before she passed away. He said he still has her old on which was wrecked and he hoped one day it'd be road worthy again. This story could be completely false or could be somewhat true as he bought a rebuilder and is planning on swapping the parts over.

stolen2002GTS
06-06-2015, 05:05 AM
I did not get any of the cash as he bolted before we started to count. He said his name was Ryan however that is probably fake. I do have texts with him but both the cops and I believe it's a burner phone. He did not get the title, it is now in police hands as he handled it just seconds before he stole the car and they are going to try and lift a print. I believe he was a Las Vegas local as he knew his way around North Vegas and certain landmarks/areas that tourists would not know. Car was advertised on Craigslist. The guy didn't seem so bright as to be a professional (then again he got the car) seemed almost like he would be the type to steal it and joyride which I'm hoping is the case.

Only thing that could be a lead - he made up a story saying he wanted a Viper because his mom had one before she passed away. He said he still has her old on which was wrecked and he hoped one day it'd be road worthy again. This story could be completely false or could be somewhat true as he bought a rebuilder and is planning on swapping the parts over.

SA Heat
06-06-2015, 08:42 AM
This could be a good "Corvette Summer" remake....but all joking aside, hopefully the police put the description of the car out to all the area agencies as that car will be difficult to move without someone noticing it.

If I were you, I would see if the local news stations would take on the story. It's a very unusual way to have a very unusual car stolen.....I'm betting they'd run with it and someone watching had to have seen where that prick drove it.

SA Heat
06-06-2015, 08:42 AM
This could be a good "Corvette Summer" remake....but all joking aside, hopefully the police put the description of the car out to all the area agencies as that car will be difficult to move without someone noticing it.

If I were you, I would see if the local news stations would take on the story. It's a very unusual way to have a very unusual car stolen.....I'm betting they'd run with it and someone watching had to have seen where that prick drove it.

Luisv
06-06-2015, 08:53 AM
Unreal!

There is always hope. Quick story, about 4 years ago I had some camera equipment and ipads stolen from my car in front of my house. $14K worth of gear, it was pro photo gear. I went into my home and two kids, going house to house checking cars found the stuff in the car and stole it. We were geting ready to go to a car show that morning and at 7:00AM I got back from getting gas and came in to tell the wife it was time to go. When I came back out 5 min later (we have them on video so timeline was real) they had gotten to my car and the driver door was unlocked.

To not make this a 10 page post. My wife and I (not the police) found the camera gear for sale a month later on craigslist. We bought a burner phone, set up a bogus email address not traceable to us and chatted with the person selling the gear. We notified police. When I spoke to the police detective and told them we found my camera the detective interrupts me with "allegedly my camera". I said "no detective... I have them dead to rights as they photographed the camera for me to see and the serial number is clearly visible, it is MY CAMERA". He then proceeded to ask me to setup a meeting to purchase the camera sometime from Monday to Friday, during the day, because they don't work weekends. I shit you not. I can't make this up.

Ultimately they police met with the seller and arrested him. The person was the kids step father who had 5 fingered it from the kids because he wanted the cash. The biological mother was in the car waiting outside the coffee shop were we setup the meet and they arrested her as well. The two kids were also arrested later when the two parents pointed the finger at them for the theft. In the end, I got every piece of equipment recovered for the insurance company (they had paid us already, so they own it if it is recovered) and all the police did was show up to make the arrest.

In the end... your car is FAR more difficult to move. I would lean towards you getting it back. They could not even part that thing out... the Viper community is too small.... who the hell would buy parts like that....

I will keep my fingers crossed for ya! ... and if they catch the bastard.... nail him, press all charges you can.... go to the trail and mention the stress and fear you now have about the process and how you are forever scarred by it.

City
06-06-2015, 08:53 AM
Copied thread in Nevada region forum

stolen2002GTS
06-06-2015, 11:01 AM
Thanks for the help guys, I'm also going to be reaching out to the news stations today.

Vprbite
06-06-2015, 11:42 AM
Seriously heartbreaking.

If really want this to be ok. I have seen these things go both ways. I had a friend who got his jeep back twice and both times it was within miles of his house from where they had stolen it.

When my brother had his 350z in 2006 or so he had a really nice custom stereo in it and it was found soon after it was stolen with the stereo still there but the headliner and door panels removed like they were looking for something stashed in there. He is a neonatologist, so no there was no reason for people to suspect he had anything in there like a drug dealer or something. Often times these people are not that bright or ambitious, which is why they are criminals. If they are real pros, then the thing is already on its way to Mexico or China or Australia and it's an insurance matter.

It absolutely sucks though and and I feel awful that you have to deal with this. Best of luck. Sounds like you are doing everything right.

Also, in my experience with news stations, they don't know a thing about Vipers. So tell them the sticker price on the car, not what you are selling it for, and tell them it was a numbered addition out of 350 (pretty sure the 2002 FE cars were out of 350, not 500) making it much more collectible than even a standard Viper and therefor irreplaceable. It will get their attention and make a reporter more apt to really put their heart into it. Also, pull on their heart strings and say you had other offers but you were only taking this kids offer because of the story he fed you. Yeah I know it's not super ethical but fuck it, he stole your car. Gloves come off now,

viper_eddie
06-06-2015, 01:09 PM
Go on a walk/drive around your neighborhood IMMEDIATELY and look for businesses with cameras. He had to drive by something, maybe, just maybe, they can make him out.

My first reaction was WTF!?!?!, I can't believe someone would try that. What a piece of shit.

viper_eddie
06-06-2015, 01:11 PM
Also, start a Google alert with your VIN # or other keywords that might be used if someone puts it up online for sale. That's not too likely, but these people are not that bright and it's worth a shot.

stolen2002GTS
06-06-2015, 01:43 PM
We do have camera footage of him at the Albertsons that we met at, the cops are working on figuring out who dropped him off. Also I just put this up last night:

http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/5060737057.html

And four hours later there was this reply, I'm trying to get ahold of an officer so that they can trace the IP address. They seem dumb enough to make a post like this:

http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/5060823861.html

SA Heat
06-06-2015, 03:09 PM
And four hours later there was this reply, I'm trying to get ahold of an officer so that they can trace the IP address. They seem dumb enough to make a post like this:

http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/5060823861.html

Probably thought twice about it....what did it say??


"This posting has been deleted by its author.

(The title on the listings page will be removed in just a few minutes.)"

stolen2002GTS
06-06-2015, 03:45 PM
It said "This man is only scamming his insurance company. He still has the car. Do not trust him"

Literally makes no sense....how am I scamming if I am offering a reward to find my car?

Also FYI guys - I'm an avid member in the corvette forum community, sorry never ventured over here much.

Chorps
06-06-2015, 04:33 PM
If anyone is ever halfway serious about buying, or even test driving, you should get them to produce a driver's license and you take a photo of the person and the license with your cell phone, and also one of the ride they came in on.

Sorry for the hassle with the low lifes.

The cops really don't put much of a priority in property theft unless it blows up (escalates on social media or physically).

AZTVR
06-06-2015, 04:53 PM
It said "This man is only scamming his insurance company. He still has the car. Do not trust him"

Literally makes no sense....how am I scamming if I am offering a reward to find my car?


The CL post was probably just a typical Craigslist troll, same as you might find on a car forum, who just likes to see conspiracy/subterfuge in everything; or it could have been the perp.

stolen2002GTS
06-06-2015, 04:56 PM
The CL post was probably just a typical Craigslist troll, same as you might find on a car forum, who just likes to see conspiracy/subterfuge in everything; or it could have been the perp.

Worth a shot for police to look into and to pull the IP. Once I updated the craigslist ad with a more accurate description of the person and more details is when it was deleted shortly after.

99RT10
06-06-2015, 05:18 PM
The CL post was probably just a typical Craigslist troll, same as you might find on a car forum, who just likes to see conspiracy/subterfuge in everything; or it could have been the perp.

That's what I was thinking too.

Luisv
06-06-2015, 05:30 PM
2002 Dodge Viper GTS 263/500 Final Edition
Red/White stripes
Black/red seats
Stock except for muffler delete
Front bumper on driver side had a small chunk missing
CA License plate 7GYX603
VIN: 1B3ER69E02V102693



....tell them it was a numbered addition out of 350 (pretty sure the 2002 FE cars were out of 350, not 500) making it much more collectible than even a standard Viper and therefor irreplaceable.

There were actually 360 Final Editions made. So yes... irreplaceable.

If you can, I would fill in the details at feviper.com It is the Final Edition Viper registry site. Worth listing.

Your car was, supposedly, originally sold by a dealer in Idaho and delivered to the owner in Texas. It was later resold in 2003.

It may not be a bad idea to register it there. A potential buyer may check the site... you never know.

Good luck

SA Heat
06-06-2015, 05:32 PM
The cops really don't put much of a priority in property theft unless it blows up (escalates on social media or physically).

I don't know about that....most police departments are pretty aggressive when it comes to auto thefts as opposed to other "property" crimes.

stolen2002GTS
06-06-2015, 05:56 PM
Once again appreciate the help and support from you guys! I'll keep this thread updated as more details come in.

commandomatt
06-06-2015, 07:57 PM
You should post this on the other sub forums as well (general, Gen III and Gen V)....many, including myself, don't go on this section very often but if you post your pictures of your car info in the other sections, you never know who may see or hear about your car

Good luck with getting it back

Vprbite
06-06-2015, 08:34 PM
The CL post was probably just a typical Craigslist troll, same as you might find on a car forum, who just likes to see conspiracy/subterfuge in everything; or it could have been the perp.

So you have narrowed down to it being the person who did it, or not. Well that helps make the search easier. Good thinking TVR : )

Vprbite
06-06-2015, 08:39 PM
You should post this on the other sub forums as well (general, Gen III and Gen IV)....many, including myself, don't go on this section very often but if you post your pictures of your car info in the other sections, you never know who may see or hear about your car

Good luck with getting it back


I agree. Get the word out. Potential buyers look on here too before they buy either to learn stuff or to ask about specific cars. Even if you include potential buyers we are a smaller community than a lot of other car clubs.

stolen2002GTS
06-06-2015, 08:48 PM
I didn't want to risk being tagged as a spammer as I don't know all the rules of your forum. Perhaps a mod can help me out and make a sticky? Also I'm not at my computer so it'd be tough to repost at this time.

Darth Menace
06-06-2015, 09:48 PM
Post the VIN with it as well so if the potential buyer searches it, this will come up

Viper Girl
06-06-2015, 09:58 PM
I think we should move this to General, you are likely to get more exposure than being in the Gen I / II forum only...

Moving... 3. 2. 1


Also the Las Vegas police dept has a Viper Team dedicated to recovering vehicles. You might want to look into this
http://www.lvmpd.com/protectyourself/autotheft/tabid/105/default.aspx

SA Heat
06-07-2015, 12:14 AM
Post the VIN with it as well so if the potential buyer searches it, this will come up

Good idea!

stolen2002GTS
06-07-2015, 12:54 AM
The vin should be in my first post

stolen2002GTS
06-08-2015, 11:45 AM
Update - nothing quite yet nor was it found this weekend. I am now in contact with the VIPER team at LVMPD as they are specialists and I may be able to help them pinpoint the target and they patrol the area in which the car probably is. They will be working in collaboration with Henderson PD and hopefully something good will come of this! Fingers crossed

Viper Girl
06-08-2015, 03:26 PM
If the LVMPD viper team can't find the Viper... they have to stop using that name... LOL :stickmen_burningsti

Seriously though I really hope they find your car and capture the creep...

Thread to the Top...

stolen2002GTS
06-11-2015, 04:15 PM
No progress as of yet, LVMP has a potential suspect that I am working on them with!

MtnBiker
06-11-2015, 04:39 PM
?? Can't they just have you look at a line up?

stolen2002GTS
06-15-2015, 12:42 PM
Car has been recovered! Thanks to the help of an anonymous neighbor who reached out to me through my Craigslist ad. I can't go into full details for legal reasons but basically I acquired the address, did a drive-by and the idiot was working on the car in his garage with the door wide open. The car drives fine and nothing has been removed except for the front air induction piece which they painted maroon (wtf?) and I have a sweet rattle can black racing stripe on my hood with a ton of overspray. I have a lot of great body shop connections who will help me get it back up to par. The thief and his comrades basically steal cars and just drive them around acting like it's their car. There were other vehicles at the location which he will be racking up additional charges for but I cannot comment on at this time. A news article will probably be published soon and I'll link it here for more details.

This is all thanks to a good man who reached out to me, I'm giving him a very nice cash reward this evening even though he is trying to not accept it in which case I'm going to send his family on a vacation instead!

Thanks for the help and support guys.

City
06-15-2015, 12:49 PM
Thats GREAT NEWS!!!

viper_eddie
06-15-2015, 12:52 PM
GREAT to hear! Must have been tough seeing him work on your car while you drove by knowing you couldn't do anything at the time...

eucharistos
06-15-2015, 12:55 PM
congrats

AZTVR
06-15-2015, 01:05 PM
Car has been recovered!

Excellent ! Hopefully the guy gets an opportunity to get some more home made tattoos from his jail house buds.

99RT10
06-15-2015, 01:22 PM
Congrats. I don't think I could have just drove by. I would have been out with my .45 at his head calling 911. I hope that little sh!t meets Bubba in a dark cell.

ViperSmith
06-15-2015, 01:26 PM
I can't comprehend stealing a flashy car and driving it around.

Then again I can't comprehend stealing a car either.

BeBeep
06-15-2015, 01:42 PM
That is excellent news!!

C.J
06-15-2015, 01:50 PM
Outstanding news! I like the Old Testament approach of restitution...this guy would owe you 4 times the damages he caused.

Course that means he'd have to steal a lot of stuff to pay you... ;)

drewsss
06-15-2015, 03:36 PM
Congrats. I don't think I could have just drove by. I would have been out with my .45 at his head calling 911. I hope that little sh!t meets Bubba in a dark cell.

Ditto!

shnickerlaus
06-15-2015, 04:28 PM
Glad u got it back, it's a pain in the arse he messed with your car and caused damages but at least it's back. The sob will hopefully get what's coming to him. Good to see another FE staying on the road.

Viper Girl
06-15-2015, 04:39 PM
Congrats!!! So happy you got it back, are you going to keep it now?

stolen2002GTS
06-15-2015, 04:52 PM
It was extremely hard not too, I have my CCW and had my 9mm XDS Mod.2 on me. Luckily I didn't approach as he had a .44 sitting in the trunk of my car and a .40 on a chair nearby in the garage. Feel free to take a guess as to if the guns were legally acquired or not....right now the thief is looking at more than a handful of felonies between my case and a few others.

- - - Updated - - -

I will be pursuing full restitution and also a civil case after the criminal trial is over.

mikesax
06-15-2015, 05:15 PM
Nail his effin ass to the wall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MalingatorGTS
06-15-2015, 06:10 PM
Glad you got it back...I want to see the custom paint work...pics! LOL!

stolen2002GTS
06-15-2015, 06:55 PM
Glad you got it back...I want to see the custom paint work...pics! LOL!

Here's the lovely paint job they left behind, not pictured is the maroon induction scoop. They made damn sure they had really nice lines, however didn't seem to understand the concept of overspray. I was able to start getting some of it off using a gentle thinner mixed with water, a rubbing compound and clay bar. It's going to a buddy at a body shop tomorrow and should be completed this Saturday.

http://i58.tinypic.com/15x7djk.jpg

SSGNRDZ_28
06-15-2015, 07:33 PM
I'm glad you got it back but am just amazed/laughing at them stealing a very nice and expensive car and then devaluing it ten fold with crappy mods, poor execution, and poor taste. Why not steal a beater if you wanted to spray paint something... (I get they were probably trying to hide it, but wtf). Please post a photo of the maroon scoop!

MalingatorGTS
06-15-2015, 08:28 PM
Here's the lovely paint job they left behind, not pictured is the maroon induction scoop. They made damn sure they had really nice lines, however didn't seem to understand the concept of overspray. I was able to start getting some of it off using a gentle thinner mixed with water, a rubbing compound and clay bar. It's going to a buddy at a body shop tomorrow and should be completed this Saturday.

http://i58.tinypic.com/15x7djk.jpg

WOW! I'm sorry man! That's awful! I'm glad you got your car back and I'm sure a good shop will get it looking right again. Did they find lots of Corvette posters in his garage? It might explain his rage in destroying such a nice car! Good luck man. Please post pics when she's all fixed!

Patentlaw
06-15-2015, 08:56 PM
Congrats. Nail him in civil court as well. Find a good (expensive) attorney. Ask for fees.

pony23
06-15-2015, 09:18 PM
That's great to hear that you got it back. I hate thieves. Screw him.

The Stig
06-15-2015, 09:48 PM
Btw... u can offer up a reward for when the thief is in the big house if you know where he will be serving out his 3 square meals a day along with shower buddies..... 20 dollars for a hemorrhoid check up each night

Can I post this?

ViperSmith
06-15-2015, 10:05 PM
Congrats. Nail him in civil court as well. Find a good (expensive) attorney. Ask for fees.

Blood from a turnip and all

Luisv
06-15-2015, 11:49 PM
What a crime.... It pains me to see what they did to that beauty!... Hope it all works out.

I can't imagine what he was thinking!.... Then again... if he was a brain surgeon, he would not be a lowlife thief. 1

BTW.... when you get the call from the prosecutor asking if the thief can take a course to help in rehabilitation...trust me they will ask. To "help with prison population". SAY NO! Jail. Restitution. Sue him for mental distress. Go for the glory.... make his life hell. Make sure that you know when he goes up for parole.... then go in and say you have not slept since he violated you in your home and destroyed your trust of humanity.

Fatboy 18
06-16-2015, 03:03 AM
What a crime.... It pains me to see what they did to that beauty!... Hope it all works out.

I can't imagine what he was thinking!.... Then again... if he was a brain surgeon, he would not be a lowlife thief. 1

BTW.... when you get the call from the prosecutor asking if the thief can take a course to help in rehabilitation...trust me they will ask. To "help with prison population". SAY NO! Jail. Restitution. Sue him for mental distress. Go for the glory.... make his life hell. Make sure that you know when he goes up for parole.... then go in and say you have not slept since he violated you in your home and destroyed your trust of humanity.

Exactly, because when he gets out he knows where you live!

bogdan
06-16-2015, 09:13 AM
Glad it's resolved. Sorry you have to deal with the shitty paint job. I hope you can recover the money it takes you to repair the rattle can job. This person is an idiot, and getting any money from him might prove to be a challenge.

Darth Menace
06-21-2015, 08:57 PM
Maroon colour airbox pictures please

Dajerseyviper
06-21-2015, 09:07 PM
Maroon colour airbox pictures please

+1 please

Luisv
06-22-2015, 09:18 PM
Maroon colour airbox pictures please

+2 Please....

I have to see that!

PackManDan
08-23-2015, 11:59 PM
What was the outcome of this? Did you ever catch the asshole?

poptarts
03-12-2017, 10:36 PM
What ever happened with this? Anyone know

Viper Girl
03-13-2017, 01:07 AM
What ever happened with this? Anyone know
He recovered the Viper, I merged the threads, and left them here in the Nevada section... If you hit reload the full story should be there

Chorps
03-13-2017, 02:57 PM
Brackets in the thread title are hosing access again.

Viper Girl
03-13-2017, 08:18 PM
Brackets in the thread title are hosing access again.
Fixed