Gen V Engine out Heads & Cam install in pictures.

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As we dive into the pre production ViperExchange/Arrow Stage II Heads & Cam install on my GT I thought some of you would like to see a play by play of what it looks like to remove a Viper Engine and Trans on a Gen V. We are still a little over a month out of moving into our brand new BJMotors/ViperExchange building on site at Tomball Dodge, and Morgan Day one of our three Viper Tech is salivating over having his new space to install our new packages. That being said here are some great shots of a Viper Tech pulling a motor and trans on a 2015.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/399/18161183979_624cb98824_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/tEQPgH)ViperExchange Set 1 Heads & Cam (https://flic.kr/p/tEQPgH) by Andrew Wheeler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/125600825@N07/), on Flickr

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So this was day two's progress. We needed a few fasteners that we missed so Morgan spent the day swapping out the cam, prepping the deck for the gaskets and heads and getting everything ready to go once the hardware showed up.

On the Engine stand and dropping the oil pan

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Front cover off, and yes those are some sort of oily deposit on the top of the pistons. My first thought was oil being burned off via the pcv system which it could be. Since I was still under the factory break in time table, I have not really got on the car much at all so I am sure I will have an opportunity to burn everything off :D Does have me thinking about a gen V catch can though.

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Stock cam coming out:

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Courtney coming out to see the progress in between selling all of those new Vipers :) New cam going in. The best part about working at ViperExchange is that we all turn our own wrenches and like and enjoy working on and racing Vipers. It's hard to sit at your desk when you know all of this is going on outside :)

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Morgan prepping the deck for the new gasket and head:

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And prepping the other side before he finished up for the day.

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I'll follow up with more tomorrow as it we start to get everything buttoned up.

[lochnessmonster]

Very cool!!

[ACRucrazy]

In for dyno charts.

[Junkie]

Gotta pull the motor to do heads/cam? or was it just a simpler route?

BTW, I love hating a flat oil pan!

[FLATOUT]

Very cool!!

Was hoping someone might find this interesting.


In for dyno charts.

We will. I got a baseline the other day, and once this setup is installed with some miles on it, and with the final tune from Dick I will get it back on the dyno. Arrow saw 650 SAE on a Mustang dyno in Detroit on the White Mule car.


Gotta pull the motor to do heads/cam? or was it just a simpler route?

BTW, I love hating a flat oil pan!

Arrow found that it saved about 4 hours on the install to do it this way. We are still tweaking the install procedures with Arrow so nothing is set in stone yet.

[G37Sam]

Love that you're not wasting any time! Keep us posted please.

Are you guys doing any headers while the engine is out? Or keeping the exhaust stock?

[Redx]

Very nice. I see that dodge still uses those crappy OEM oil cooler lines, have the GEN v's had any seeping/leaking problems yet?

[Viperawi]

Love the pictures, makes me more excited to expand my mod's wish list !!
Thanks for sharing them !

[345s-bspinnin]

Great pics. Thanks for sharing Andy. Also, interesting heat shielding (sound deadening) on the transmission tunnel. My Gen III surely doesn't have that, not sure about Gen IVs.

Keep the pictures coming.

[Vprbite]

Gotta pull the motor to do heads/cam? or was it just a simpler route?

BTW, I love hating a flat oil pan!

I could see why pulling the motor goes faster. IDK personally about the Gen V but every other Viper is a bitch to work on, even with the hood off. Once you pull it (especially with space and correct, high quality equipment and people that VEXCH has) you have 360 degree access. And it's simple on a brand new car where everything is clean and shiny and nothing is rusted or fused together from age. At least I think of it like that. I could be wrong.

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Love that you're not wasting any time! Keep us posted please.

Are you guys doing any headers while the engine is out? Or keeping the exhaust stock?

Yes ARH full exhaust.


Very nice. I see that dodge still uses those crappy OEM oil cooler lines, have the GEN v's had any seeping/leaking problems yet?

I saw my first Gen V leaky set the other day. Covered under warranty but they were leaking.


Love the pictures, makes me more excited to expand my mod's wish list !!
Thanks for sharing them !

Would love to help you with your mods awheeler@viperexchange.com


Great pics. Thanks for sharing Andy. Also, interesting heat shielding (sound deadening) on the transmission tunnel. My Gen III surely doesn't have that, not sure about Gen IVs.

Keep the pictures coming.

Wait till you see what they did on the 15's to cut down on valve train noise lol.


I could see why pulling the motor goes faster. IDK personally about the Gen V but every other Viper is a bitch to work on, even with the hood off. Once you pull it (especially with space and correct, high quality equipment and people that VEXCH has) you have 360 degree access. And it's simple on a brand new car where everything is clean and shiny and nothing is rusted or fused together from age. At least I think of it like that. I could be wrong.

Definitely easier on the new car.

[swexlin]

Andy, great pics, and looking forward to your progress. It has to be a little rough though to see your brand new car torn apart. Oh, and thanks for the heads up about the oil cooler lines - so you saw your first Gen 5 leaky set? We'll all need to be on the lookout then.

Also jealous that you have THREE Viper techs at Tomball!

[v10tt]

I got a baseline the other day, .

Can you post a graph, what did it do?

BTW, great pics, and thanks for sharing!!, looking forward for the results. I'm loving all this ALL Motor power!!

[viper04]

"Wait till you see what they did on the 15's to cut down on valve train noise lol."

Andy
Very nice keep the pictures coming. Can you give us more info on the valve train noise on the 15's very interesting. Thanks.

[commandomatt]

Are you considering a clutch upgrade since you have it all apart ?

[Mr. Bill]

I'm in for the updates.

[ViperPete]

Wow looks amazing!

I had no idea the oil pan was so gigantic in the Gen V.

My 05 SRT10 certainly doesn't look nearly as big.

[SRT BILL]

Very nice!! good luck with the build, seems like a lot of real interest in this set up.

[FLATOUT]

Can you post a graph, what did it do?

BTW, great pics, and thanks for sharing!!, looking forward for the results. I'm loving all this ALL Motor power!!

When we are all done with the testing I will post results.


"Wait till you see what they did on the 15's to cut down on valve train noise lol."

Andy
Very nice keep the pictures coming. Can you give us more info on the valve train noise on the 15's very interesting. Thanks.

Under the plastic coil covers they have a dense foam silencer lol. I guess it absorbes the noise made by the valve train, I am interested to see how it effects heat actually.


Are you considering a clutch upgrade since you have it all apart ?

I am not, we are installing these just like we would on a customers cars so trying to stick with a standard install.


I'm in for the updates.

Slowing down a little today we need some hardware that is on the way.


Wow looks amazing!

I had no idea the oil pan was so gigantic in the Gen V.

My 05 SRT10 certainly doesn't look nearly as big.

Yeah it's a big piece for sure.


Very nice!! good luck with the build, seems like a lot of real interest in this set up.

It's going to be a great package that can be sold with our warranty, with Arrow and the ViperExchange Racing effort backing the development and design.

[viper04]

Thanks for the reply, very interesting. Do you have any pictures of it?

[KB Viper]

awesome thread, thanks for keeping us in the loop!

[City]

Excellent thread Andy! This is Viper porn at its best?


Was hoping someone might find this interesting.

I HOPE you were kidding!

If only you would give me $100,000 for an '08 trade-in. LOL (saving my pennies)

[J TNT]

Thanks for all the updates ! :)
Hoping you have great results !

[Simms]

Awesome! Any changes to the pushrods and rocker arms?

[98intrigue]

29 users viewing this thread...people are excited!

A pair of twins would look great hanging off those v-band's on the manifolds:cool:

[Next Phase]

That is awesome! I'm looking forward to seeing the finished product and dyno results.

That comp blue just pops... WANT!

[Dusty1]

Andy:

Other than what you took off the TA, what is the list and order of addition you will be doing?

Richard

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Awesome! Any changes to the pushrods and rocker arms?

Yes Arrow has an upgraded pushrod they ship with the package, stock rockers are reused.

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29 users viewing this thread...people are excited!

A pair of twins would look great hanging off those v-band's on the manifolds:cool:

I'm glad people are interested, the buzz around the shop the last few days has been great as well. Lot's of time and energy have gone into this on the Arrow and ViperExchange side.

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Andy:

Other than what you took off the TA, what is the list and order of addition you will be doing?

Richard

So our stage 1 package is what I had on my TA, i.e. ARH full exhaust, and Arrow ECU. Our stage II builds on that package so we are adding ported heads, and switching from the factory VVT cam in cam setup to a non VVT cam, and the Arrow Stage II ECU flash. The heads have big valves, upgraded springs, retainers, pushrods, with the stock roller rockers.