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Stealth
05-30-2015, 12:27 AM
Yesterday I went to see the 2015 Gumball 3000 Rally cars in Los Angeles, including of course the 3 Guess-wrapped Vipers (and another Viper as well). OK, I will admit that I did like to seek the Koenigsegg One, Pagani Huayra, Porsche 918, McLaren P1, etc. I am sure there will be photos on the Gumball ("GB") website. I have a lot of marginal phone pics and do not know how to post them.

The cars were on display at the LA Ritz Carleton and the Gumballers were in the Lobby and then the DJ DeadMau5 was supposed to play. I saw him get out of the Mercedes AMG GT (there were 2 of them) and one of his peeps were carrying out a Mousehead.

The Vipers looked great but it was hard for them to standout since there were so many other cars and most all of them were also wrapped. If you did not know, the Gumball cars were flown over from Norway (or somewhere) to Reno, went to San Francisco, then drove to Button Willow Raceway in Bakersfield (“BW”) for about 2 hours of fun, and then on to LA. I was curious what happened at the track so I spoke to some GB participants who were from Europe and driving a Ferrari 458 (two guys, collectively, “FG”). I also spoke to some of the GB Crew (“GBC”) who were at the car display area. The results were laughable and consistent with the Viper story. Here is a brief recap:

Me to GBC: Were you at BW?

GBC: Yes.

M: Did all of the GB cars (100 cars) go on and around the track?

GBC: Yes.

M: Did they drive easy parade laps or drive hard?

GBC: They drove hard. [I stopped listening here as it was clear he had no clue; 100 cars would have trouble cycling through the track in 1.50 hrs. and would lack training, etc. The GB is a cruise—not like Cannonball Run the movie]

M to FG: Were you at BW?

FG: Yes.

M: Did you get some good laps?

FG: Yes. One Ferrari guy [likely the non-owner] said that they also drove one of the Vipers. He described it as “not really a car built for the track”, it was “wobbly” and “the transmission was terrible”.

M: Have you heard of the Nurburgring?

FG: Yes. [I reminded them that the Ring was generally the litmus test for sportscars just in case they did not understand].

M: Did you know that until recently the Gen IV ACR [I said last version of the Viper with the wing] held the Ring record for all production cars?

FG: No!

M: This means it was/is faster than all of the Ferraris tested (including yours), save the new La Ferrarri. The Viper is actually designed to perform on the track.

FG: :0 !!!!!

M: There is a new Viper ACR coming which will likely have an even better Ring time than the last Viper ACR, although it will not likely beat the hypercars (P1, 918, La Ferrari, Koenigsegg One, etc.). Perhaps someone had damaged the Viper you drove—drunk curb smashes, etc. to throw off the handling? Or maybe you are just used to your DCT gearbox?

FG: Yes, we like DCT.
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So, the GB was a nice group of rich guys (and a very few girls) having fun. They had some great cars! The few I spoke to who were not from the US, had pretty limited knowledge of the Viper and tended (understandably) toward European marques.

The bottom line, the more good press—especially overseas—the Viper can get, the better!

Rapidrezults
05-30-2015, 02:38 AM
I get this type of response all the time. I'm gong to start keeping tear sheets of lap times in my back pocket for the next time someone says a Viper isn't designed to handle well. I'm determined to fix this! Sounds like you had a great time all in all.

ViperSmith
05-30-2015, 07:40 AM
Probably left it in first and wondered why it only went up to 62mph

FLATOUT
05-30-2015, 08:08 AM
I thought it was interesting Dodge brought a fleet of Vipers out to Button Willow for these yahoos to trash but they'll only bring them to LVM for the Viper Experience for actual Viper Owners.

Coloviper
05-30-2015, 08:13 AM
Ha! Ha! Yah, that slow 62 mph top speed Viper with that damn CVT Transmission.


Probably left it in first and wondered why it only went up to 62mph

RT SERPENT
01-09-2016, 09:49 AM
This rally looks like fun. Apparently there were cars too.:t15197:
http://www.fashiongonerogue.com/guess-racy-gumball-3000-campaign/

Dfunk
01-09-2016, 02:43 PM
I've encountered exotic car owners who no nothing about cars. I talked to a Ferrari owner at a car show years ago and he was telling people his 355 had a v6. LOL!

Fatboy 18
01-09-2016, 05:11 PM
A Lot of the Supercar guys in the UK have very little knowledge of the working of their cars :( But to be fair if you own an exotic I guess you can afford to have someone else wrench on it.
Its fun for me as I get invited to many of the exotic events as the Viper is rare in the UK :)
At Beaulieu Supercar Showdown last year I won People's choice award 5th place, 1st place went to a Pagani Hydra which at the time was brand new in the UK
Pretty cool that a 15yr old car can hold its own in the top Supercars.

shnickerlaus
01-10-2016, 03:46 AM
doing my bit to educate the less informed with my gen 4 acr on track and road in the uk, got my slicks for next season now so should improve my times a little further. just need to scalp a few more exotics and watch their confused faces in the pits ��