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FLATOUT
05-25-2015, 11:47 AM
You might see my Black TA #16 for sale at BJMotors.biz / ViperExchange. I've had a voucher to use for a while now and had been waiting to see how things shook out for the 2016's. I loved my TA but I am getting ready to do our Heads & Cam, Active Suspension, and Big Brake Kit so I didn't want to pull all of that stuff off the TA and start over. I decided to use my voucher on a 2015 Comp Blue Track Pack GT. I took delivery from Bernie this week. So far i have buffed the clear and added CQuartz UK to the paint work. The color is incredible and the upgraded stereo and alcantara seats and trim pieces are a nice touch.

I'll give my impressions between the two as soon as I can put some miles on the new car!

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plumcrazy
05-25-2015, 11:49 AM
smh, you go thru cars pretty quickly lol

Crotalidae
05-25-2015, 11:49 AM
Looking good!!!

mikesax
05-25-2015, 11:51 AM
Way to go Andy!! Fun stuff!!

FLATOUT
05-25-2015, 11:51 AM
smh, you go thru cars pretty quickly lol

It's a sickness.

01sapphirebob
05-25-2015, 11:53 AM
Looks great Andy!

swexlin
05-25-2015, 11:59 AM
I already knew, but I didn't spill the beans until you posted! Congrats Andy, a beautiful car, and looking forward to your impressions and progress.

Orange TA
05-25-2015, 12:09 PM
Nice! How much did you get in trade for your TA 1.0?

Nine Ball
05-25-2015, 12:27 PM
Love the Comp Blue. The one upstairs with black stripes....killer.

Definitely makes sense to start on a non-TA to do the mods you listed.

Simms
05-25-2015, 12:40 PM
That car is awesome, congrats!

I like the planned list of mods too, and I will hopefully be doing the same. I just completed the ViperExchange BBK yesterday.

Looking forward to your impressions of the head/cam package.

ACRucrazy
05-25-2015, 12:46 PM
Great looking for sure!

Blue T/A 2.0
05-25-2015, 01:03 PM
Nice color. Congrats!

pdv25
05-25-2015, 02:32 PM
Congrats once again brother!! Color looks awesome.

MBG2.0
05-25-2015, 02:33 PM
Nice ride...congrats
It will be a beast when your done

slovenom
05-25-2015, 02:41 PM
Balling! ! Awesome car Andy

99RT10
05-25-2015, 03:34 PM
smh, you go thru cars pretty quickly lol

Yeah, no joke. :D Andy is like a hot knife thru butter.

Hey Andy, what advantage is the GT over the TA? :confused: I am guessing it was the color that turned ya............ :D

Nambo
05-25-2015, 03:34 PM
Congrats Andy! Can't wait to get out on the track with it.

1ststrike
05-25-2015, 03:46 PM
Looks great! perfect background

BeBeep
05-25-2015, 03:55 PM
Congratulations!!!

FLATOUT
05-25-2015, 04:59 PM
Thanks everyone! Really loving the car and especially the color.

ViperPete
05-25-2015, 05:16 PM
That's a beautiful unit!

Stealth
05-25-2015, 05:29 PM
Love the new color!

In Tejas, do you only pays sales tax on the difference between a trade and the new car?

In CA, they nails us for 100% Sales Tax on the new car and no credit for the old car--so a $10,000 or so hit on each purchase. Just another transaction cost, but at least some deterrent (unfortunately) to trading around.

Nine Ball
05-25-2015, 05:44 PM
In Tejas, do you only pays sales tax on the difference between a trade and the new car?

Yes, we only pay sales tax on the trade-in difference. Another reason to live in Texas.

MtnBiker
05-25-2015, 06:34 PM
Sweet Andy. Can't wait to see it in person.

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Nice! How much did you get in trade for your TA 1.0?

Really? Go ask Bernie. WTF!

viper04
05-25-2015, 07:23 PM
Congrats on the new car, like the color, looks nice in person.

IndyRon
05-25-2015, 07:29 PM
Thanks everyone! Really loving the car and especially the color.

Congrats! Vipers look best in blue!

Rapidrezults
05-25-2015, 07:31 PM
Beautiful! Can't wait to see how it all turns out with your mods...it's going to be a beast!

KB Viper
05-25-2015, 08:11 PM
awesome color, i am yet to see one in person. i'm interested to know your feed back on motor temps on the track with the 2 vent vs 6 vent hood.

smhog
05-25-2015, 08:22 PM
Holy crap, you're having a great year. A 92, Performance Manager at Viper Exchange, and now this. This is awesome:) Nice color choice.

Tim



FYI, his TA is on bjmotors for just under $93.

98intrigue
05-25-2015, 08:33 PM
Congrats on another, Andy! Can't wait to see the mods you add to this one.

v10enomous
05-25-2015, 08:52 PM
Beautiful ! I really want to see this color on a Viper in person. Was the new ACR a factor in your decision one way or another ?

pony23
05-25-2015, 08:53 PM
Killer color. Great choice.

Voice of Reason
05-25-2015, 08:59 PM
With the mods you're planning and the voucher this trade makes sense. Really anyone who bought new pre voucher who either got a great deal (fire sale GTS) or had a low optioned SRT trading up to a newer year with the voucher should be a free trade. IMO the only thing missing on the new one are 4 more vents on the hood. I really like seeing 6 :)

Clutch2014
05-25-2015, 09:34 PM
With the mods you're planning and the voucher this trade makes sense. Really anyone who bought new pre voucher who either got a great deal (fire sale GTS) or had a low optioned SRT trading up to a newer year with the voucher should be a free trade. IMO the only thing missing on the new one are 4 more vents on the hood. I really like seeing 6 :)

Eh...I dunno. 6 looks great on the ACR - maybe because it meshes well with the rest of the aerodynamics on the car.

For the more..."pedestrian" models, though, I think the GTS hood actually flows better, especially with the TA 1.0 kit. That Silver one in the Birth of a Supercar video...now that was damn near perfect.

XSTAR
05-25-2015, 09:40 PM
Get bored of this one fast and sell it to me!

Bruce
05-25-2015, 09:51 PM
Yes, we only pay sales tax on the trade-in difference. Another reason to live in Texas.

I used to live in Houston, then came to California to go to college but never moved back, now I'm thinking seriously of moving back. And I have a $15K voucher also and that's maybe the reason to move back, at least for a while.

Voice of Reason
05-25-2015, 09:56 PM
I used to live in Houston, then came to California to go to college but never moved back, now I'm thinking seriously of moving back. And I have a $15K voucher also and that's maybe the reason to move back, at least for a while.

I'd find a buddies extra room to rent for a few months in TX if I were you. IL is like TX with trades, CA is crazy.

FLATOUT
05-25-2015, 10:13 PM
Beautiful ! I really want to see this color on a Viper in person. Was the new ACR a factor in your decision one way or another ?

Yes and no, I've owned an ACR in the past and I enjoy roll and drag racing as much as road racing. Big aero cars hurt the straight line stuff I like to do so I personally wasn't that interested in the new ACR. I feel like an NA 740hp Viper with big brakes and active suspension is going to be extremely fast in a lot of different track environments.

timberwolf
05-25-2015, 10:16 PM
Yes and no, I've owned an ACR in the past and I enjoy roll and drag racing as much as road racing. Big aero cars hurt the straight line stuff I like to do so I personally wasn't that interested in the new ACR. I feel like an NA 740hp Viper with big brakes and active suspension is going to be extremely fast in a lot of different track environments.

Awesome deal! I pondered long and hard over that car! Sweet a$$ machine. You guys still need to run my m5 against a stock viper.. I need to know the outcome!

RPM9000
05-25-2015, 10:20 PM
smh, you go thru cars pretty quickly lol

Yes he does but whoever buys his old one gets a well sorted and modded car. I know that from experience.

serpent
05-25-2015, 10:32 PM
Congrats Andy!!

How many miles did the TA have when you traded it in?

FLATOUT
05-25-2015, 10:49 PM
Yes he does but whoever buys his old one gets a well sorted and modded car. I know that from experience.

Thanks Paul, that's very nice of you to say and your car is still one of my all time favorites!


Congrats Andy!!

How many miles did the TA have when you traded it in?

It had 6,600 miles. Clear bra and CQuartz from the very beginning. That car still looks incredible.

Next Phase
05-25-2015, 10:50 PM
Congrats! Love the color!

Double0fox
05-25-2015, 10:53 PM
Come on. I was already hating you for having the Ford GT, now this. :p

Eachey51
05-25-2015, 11:52 PM
Uhh.. Wow, those pictures are beautiful! Congrats man

Sybil TF
05-26-2015, 12:04 AM
It's a sickness.More like an addiction I think...Love that blue!

Vprbite
05-26-2015, 12:30 AM
Why did you have the Quartz covering put on it? You still have to paint it red!

Actually, I do like the color. Sexy for sure. And I see why you traded the TA with the mods you are gonna do. Kinda makes no sense to tear apart a perfectly good TA. Someone will enjoy your old one, that's for sure. Congrats to you and the new owner (whoever that ends up being)

Camfab
05-26-2015, 12:31 AM
That Blue is my new favorite color. I've always been a grey guy, but that color is amazing!

darbgnik
05-26-2015, 04:19 AM
Eh...I dunno. 6 looks great on the ACR - maybe because it meshes well with the rest of the aerodynamics on the car.

For the more..."pedestrian" models, though, I think the GTS hood actually flows better, especially with the TA 1.0 kit. That Silver one in the Birth of a Supercar video...now that was damn near perfect.

Lol, I couldn't disagree more. It's surprising, when all the Gen V Viper came out with all the press coverage, they were always testing a GTS, and I really wasn't that fond of it.....
I wasn't even in the market for one, till I saw an add for a Competition Blue SRT Viper, with the 6 vent hood, but I bought one two weeks later, as soon as the seat lowering kit became available.

Again, it's all personal preference, and no offence to any GT and GTS owners who love their cars, but those long scallops behind the single hood vents just look odd to me, the 6 vent hood looks "Viper" to me, and fills up some of the scallop.

sammyv
05-26-2015, 08:19 AM
That is one of the best looking Vipers I've seen!!!

Joe_Joe
05-26-2015, 08:34 AM
Damn Wheeler ... just damn!!! The car and color are beautiful!! The 3rd photo is now my desktop background!

PM me your email address I wanna make sure I have the correct one. We need to catch up!

I'm definitely keep'n my eye on this one for when you get the itch to sell it!!!

98intrigue
05-26-2015, 10:46 AM
Lol, I couldn't disagree more. It's surprising, when all the Gen V Viper came out with all the press coverage, they were always testing a GTS, and I really wasn't that fond of it.....
I wasn't even in the market for one, till I saw an add for a Competition Blue SRT Viper, with the 6 vent hood, but I bought one two weeks later, as soon as the seat lowering kit became available.
Again, it's all personal preference, and no offence to any GT and GTS owners who love their cars, but those long scallops behind the single hood vents just look odd to me, the 6 vent hood looks "Viper" to me, and fills up some of the scallop.
I test drove my first Gen V yesterday and the seat lowering kit is a must in my opinion! I'm only 6'1", but my head only cleared by an inch or so and the viewpoint out the windshield was too limited.

FLATOUT
05-26-2015, 10:51 AM
Damn Wheeler ... just damn!!! The car and color are beautiful!! The 3rd photo is now my desktop background!

PM me your email address I wanna make sure I have the correct one. We need to catch up!

I'm definitely keep'n my eye on this one for when you get the itch to sell it!!!

HAHA yeah this one should be quite nice when I am done with it. You can email me at awheeler@viperexchange.com shoot me an email and I'll hop on a call with ya.


I test drove my first Gen V yesterday and the seat lowering kit is a must in my opinion! I'm only 6'1", but my head only cleared by an inch or so and the viewpoint out the windshield was too limited.

We just installed our first one on a TA 2.0 at ViperExchange and put a local ZR1 owner in it that is 6' 4" and he looked at me and said I can now buy a Viper :D It does make a difference. It is a little limited if you run Team Techs but it still makes a reall nice difference.

FLATOUT
05-26-2015, 10:52 AM
Funny because I think I built like 3 red cars in a row :) Not going to lie we have a red car that looks just like my blue one and it was really hard picking between the two.


Why did you have the Quartz covering put on it? You still have to paint it red!

Actually, I do like the color. Sexy for sure. And I see why you traded the TA with the mods you are gonna do. Kinda makes no sense to tear apart a perfectly good TA. Someone will enjoy your old one, that's for sure. Congrats to you and the new owner (whoever that ends up being)

Slithr
05-26-2015, 11:05 AM
Congrats Andy! Looking forward to seeing that color in person, love it :)

ViperDC
05-26-2015, 11:20 AM
Nice pickup! Never get tired of seeing that color

Loud
05-26-2015, 11:27 AM
Awesome! Congrats! Love that blue.

Herrsss
05-26-2015, 02:25 PM
It's a sickness.

Andy, I swear you trade cars about as fast as some folks trade underwear!!!!

Congrats on your new ride and let's see how those mods shake out!

Drummerviper
05-26-2015, 02:44 PM
Awesome color

Orange TA
05-27-2015, 12:45 AM
You still haven't told us how much you got for trade in on your TA. This has been a hot topic of conversation here lately. Most enthusiasts think used TAs are worth low to mid 90's. What say you Andy?

Junkie
05-27-2015, 12:48 AM
HAHA yeah this one should be quite nice when I am done with it. You can email me at awheeler@viperexchange.com shoot me an email and I'll hop on a call with ya.

We just installed our first one on a TA 2.0 at ViperExchange and put a local ZR1 owner in it that is 6' 4" and he looked at me and said I can now buy a Viper :D It does make a difference. It is a little limited if you run Team Techs but it still makes a reall nice difference.

Sounds like Rob:t1236:

FLATOUT
05-27-2015, 06:54 AM
You still haven't told us how much you got for trade in on your TA. This has been a hot topic of conversation here lately. Most enthusiasts think used TAs are worth low to mid 90's. What say you Andy?

I work for ViperExchange, why would I tell you what my Coworker bought my car for when he is currently trying to resell it? I ignored the question last time, now you have my answer. Also I do think they are worth mid to low 90's in the used market.

FLATOUT
05-27-2015, 06:55 AM
Sounds like Rob:t1236:

Lol yeah he came by and really liked it. Big thanks to Mike A for letting him drive his TA and getting him hooked:)

BlknBlu
05-27-2015, 08:57 AM
why would anyone choose a blue car.

Bruce

danny1305
05-27-2015, 09:03 AM
Very nice! Love that color

Whitemamba
05-27-2015, 09:42 AM
Holy cow!! Gorgeous car.

Tomball-Dodge
05-27-2015, 09:54 AM
Andy Congrats and the car looks great! Andy's old TA is available and for sale on BJ Motors/Viperexchange for $92,995 and is a super nice and super clean TA. Andy always takes great care of his cars and I have been fortunate to have been able to buy his leftovers. The Comp Blue car is going to be a beast with our new heads and cam and all of the upgrades. Thanks Andy can't wait to see the finished beast.

river rat
05-27-2015, 10:10 AM
Me=jealous! I should have stuck around the dealer to see it in person...

Murpowa
05-27-2015, 10:22 AM
Andy, beautiful choice – pictures do not do that color justice. Please do us all a favor and start a journal on this new build. I am interested in hearing your comparisons but more importantly the results from the heads/cam package!

FLATOUT
05-27-2015, 12:15 PM
Andy Congrats and the car looks great! Andy's old TA is available and for sale on BJ Motors/Viperexchange for $92,995 and is a super nice and super clean TA. Andy always takes great care of his cars and I have been fortunate to have been able to buy his leftovers. The Comp Blue car is going to be a beast with our new heads and cam and all of the upgrades. Thanks Andy can't wait to see the finished beast.

Thanks Bernie! Still pinch myself every day that I have the opportunity to work with you guys :D

FLATOUT
05-27-2015, 12:23 PM
why would anyone choose a blue car.

Bruce

I missed my Blue and White ACR lol.


Very nice! Love that color

Thanks Danny


Holy cow!! Gorgeous car.

Appreciate it!


Me=jealous! I should have stuck around the dealer to see it in person...

Hey, it was great meeting you BTW. Your Gen 2 is incredible. Very, very nice shape. Definitely got me thinking about looking for one :)

John N
05-27-2015, 01:32 PM
Congrats on the new car Andy. It looks great and your pictures are superb.

Passed you in it the other day on 249 as you were waiting at the light on north side of Tomball, a noticeable car in traffic. Shame about all those constables constantly hanging out on the new section of highway north of the dealership......

TheAnonymousOne
05-27-2015, 02:51 PM
Yes, we only pay sales tax on the trade-in difference. Another reason to live in Texas.

Please don't tell people this! We already have more out of state people F-ing up our real estate market and cost of living. I lie to them all of the time. Winters are -60 F and summers are plus +120F, 85% humidity year round. There's shit in the street from all of the horses and coral shootouts are a daily affair with innocent bystanders dropping like flies.

TooBlue
05-27-2015, 03:22 PM
Looks very, very nice Andy!!!

How long till you're rolling around with the new heads and cam?

FLATOUT
05-27-2015, 06:57 PM
Congrats on the new car Andy. It looks great and your pictures are superb.

Passed you in it the other day on 249 as you were waiting at the light on north side of Tomball, a noticeable car in traffic. Shame about all those constables constantly hanging out on the new section of highway north of the dealership......

That's great lol. I think that was the only day I have driven it up here. The weather has been so bad I haven't been able to enjoy it the way I would like to.


Looks very, very nice Andy!!!

How long till you're rolling around with the new heads and cam?

I would expect to see some new buzz/info by the end of next week :) The ball is rolling and we are literally about to be off to the races with the Heads & Cam Package.

Andy

lochnessmonster
05-28-2015, 07:35 AM
That colour was my original choice for my Viper, but I went with Adrenaline Red because the blue seemed so different depending on the lighting in the pictures I saw online and I live 4.5 hrs from the nearest one in Edmonton. It's really a beautiful colour in your pics. Nice choice!!

Dusty1
05-28-2015, 10:14 AM
Well hopefully you are getting to drive the car some and getting a good base feel for it. Given all the changes coming you need to be comfortable with the stock feel to get good comparison's on the upgrades.

Richard

Vombomb
05-28-2015, 12:03 PM
Sweet! Love that color!!!

FLATOUT
05-28-2015, 12:13 PM
Well hopefully you are getting to drive the car some and getting a good base feel for it. Given all the changes coming you need to be comfortable with the stock feel to get good comparison's on the upgrades.

Richard

Yes I had the opportunity to run the backroads this weekend with Mike A and his TA. I can tell you that the braking obviously doesn't have the same initial bite that I liked on the TA, but that's to be expected with the smaller swept area. The suspension in both track and street mode is also a little softer without the TA's spring rates. Still exceptionally capable but the suspension and power level will change shortly.

I'm actually getting a baseline dyno today to see where the car is.

Andy

darbgnik
05-28-2015, 02:53 PM
That colour was my original choice for my Viper, but I went with Adrenaline Red because the blue seemed so different depending on the lighting in the pictures I saw online and I live 4.5 hrs from the nearest one in Edmonton. It's really a beautiful colour in your pics. Nice choice!!

It was the same distance for me to drive to look at the same car. I'm glad I did, because you're right, the color really doesn't picture well, especially in the sun. You have to see it in person. I didn't buy the car in Edmonton though. The manager acted like it was a chore even returning my phone calls. I ended up with a track pack Comp Blue car from Ontario, the only other Comp Blue car in the country at the time, besides the one in Edmonton.

Andy's pics on the first page are a very accurate representation of the color though!

gerch85
05-28-2015, 03:25 PM
Congrats! love the color

LmeaViper
05-28-2015, 10:39 PM
It was the same distance for me to drive to look at the same car. I'm glad I did, because you're right, the color really doesn't picture well, especially in the sun. You have to see it in person. I didn't buy the car in Edmonton though. The manager acted like it was a chore even returning my phone calls. I ended up with a track pack Comp Blue car from Ontario, the only other Comp Blue car in the country at the time, besides the one in Edmonton.

Andy's pics on the first page are a very accurate representation of the color though!

I saw the Comp blue in person ; ) and the first thing I said was it looks different than I expected. A very nice color for sure.

FLATOUT
05-28-2015, 10:42 PM
I saw the Comp blue in person ; ) and the first thing I said was it looks different than I expected. A very nice color for sure.

Yeah it's a great color. Working at ViperExchange I get to see all of these colors together at once and the comp blue always stands out even in a room filled with Stryker colors.

MtnBiker
05-28-2015, 11:14 PM
Yeah... the comp blue always stands out even in a room filled with Stryker colors.

That's cool!