Prefix : Taking orders on Dodge Viper Gen V Targa Conversions

[ACRucrazy]

Taking orders on @drivesrt ‪#‎viper‬ @dodge Dodge Viper Gen V targa conversions. It's a neat look with an open roof feel - removable roof panel. Interested?

:drive:

[Dman]

Well that would seal that deal, no way they'd converts and targas if either were coming from Dodge. Disappointed, but glad I didn't keep holding my breath and got my gen5.

[ViperSmith]

Well that would seal that deal, no way they'd converts and targas if either were coming from Dodge. Disappointed, but glad I didn't keep holding my breath and got my gen5.

So when you shipping your car off?

[DZnutz]

Where did this information come from?

[01sapphirebob]

Where did this information come from?

Prefix's Facebook page.

[AM.MSCL]

Has there been any pictures of one of the conversions already done?

[ViperPete]

Id love to see a targa conversion.

My hope that the original sculpture of the body/roof will remain- just a removable section. Like an NSX

[Dman]

So when you shipping your car off?

LoL, I'm sure it's a non-starter for me. Either you'll have to buy one of their cars, like the Medusa thing with VE, or it'll be tens of thousands, which I can't mentally justify for an option that if factory offered would be no charge, if past is prolog anyway. I'm digging my coupe, would be cool if it had a glass panel roof like my GT500, the Jaguar F coupe is like that too, very cool, but there's so much awesome coming out of Dodge I refuse to complain about a vert/targa disappointment.

[Schen]

Has there been any pictures of one of the conversions already done?

No just a few fan made photoshops. But now I'm kinda foaming at the mouth knowing this thing is more than likely finished while I was there for the tour!

--RS

[J TNT]

Any news on pricing ?
I'm surprised the factory doesn't do it . 2 in 3 Viper sales are verts , I'm sure half of that group me included would take that option . Also an easy Business case !

[XSTAR]

Wow, interesting and I was really thinking they would do a Targa GENV since they didn't do the Vert. I just listed my Gen III in the classifieds...couldn't post in it's own thread as a non member...maybe I just need to hold onto the Vert after all.

[I Bin Therbefor]

No just a few fan made photoshops. But now I'm kinda foaming at the mouth knowing this thing is more than likely finished while I was there for the tour!

--RS

Speaking of tours, did you ever get the question about 4,000 Viper orders resolved?

Thanks

[Schen]

Speaking of tours, did you ever get the question about 4,000 Viper orders resolved?

Thanks

Kinda, sorta. Maurice said there are at least 27 GTC orders in place and being built. But I never got a response about that number.

--RS

[I Bin Therbefor]

Kinda, sorta. Maurice said there are at least 27 GTC orders in place and being built. But I never got a response about that number.

--RS

Oh well.

By the by, I see that Prefix needs your services as a photographer on the Targa top. :D

[canadian viper]

i bet the # is more like 40. here in canada i think less than 6 were ordered.

[Space Truckin]

Where are the pix? Can't find anything on prefix site and wont do fb

[01sapphirebob]

Where are the pix? Can't find anything on prefix site and wont do fb

There are no pictures yet. :(

[Coloviper]

Taking orders for something not even pictured now priced. Really is this what it comes to. Targa with same rear ducktail fenders and trunk lid, that would be a no. Change it to look really like an older RT/10 type of unique rear, that is a more interesting proposition.

[zee]

Please make this happen!!

http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n476/zabdeali/Mobile%20Uploads/0DDA2E6E-4A7C-4346-8909-1AE519835D79_zpsnyghgpy6.jpg (http://s339.photobucket.com/user/zabdeali/media/Mobile%20Uploads/0DDA2E6E-4A7C-4346-8909-1AE519835D79_zpsnyghgpy6.jpg.html)

[BJG32]

:monkeyleft:


Please make this happen!!

http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n476/zabdeali/Mobile%20Uploads/0DDA2E6E-4A7C-4346-8909-1AE519835D79_zpsnyghgpy6.jpg (http://s339.photobucket.com/user/zabdeali/media/Mobile%20Uploads/0DDA2E6E-4A7C-4346-8909-1AE519835D79_zpsnyghgpy6.jpg.html)

[J TNT]

That's the one I was thinking of ! I could see half the convertible guys be seriously interested in it , me included ! :)

Please make this happen!!

http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n476/zabdeali/Mobile%20Uploads/0DDA2E6E-4A7C-4346-8909-1AE519835D79_zpsnyghgpy6.jpg (http://s339.photobucket.com/user/zabdeali/media/Mobile%20Uploads/0DDA2E6E-4A7C-4346-8909-1AE519835D79_zpsnyghgpy6.jpg.html)

[Viktimize]

That would be the best of both worlds. You get the open top for cruising. But you can put the top on when it gets too hot and it doesn't look dumb like a vert with the top up.

But no pics of a finished product sure isn't going to equal much sales.

[ViperPete]

Holy God that thing is gorgeous.

I would seriously consider that for my Viper....

[Voice of Reason]

The only real downside to this is where do you store the top when it's off? Corvettes have a place to put it inside the car, if they've figured this out and the answer ISN'T "well just don't get caught out in the wet" then this will sell well. Otherwise it's a novelty IMHO.

[J TNT]

If its a 2 piece top then storage could be practical . Carbon fiber would be very cool for top option . :)

[rlhay2]

The only real downside to this is where do you store the top when it's off?

Exactly!
It's a novel idea but storage is equally important with build materials, durability and seal quality.

[Dman]

The only real downside to this is where do you store the top when it's off? Corvettes have a place to put it inside the car, if they've figured this out and the answer ISN'T "well just don't get caught out in the wet" then this will sell well. Otherwise it's a novelty IMHO.

Like other targas they should have a available a soft top too, previous Porsche and viper targa's I've had a hard and soft top. Use the hard top when driving like a coupe, always carry the accordion style soft top in the 'trunk' area, if you get caught in the rain, just pop it on. I got caught once with out it, had to keep moving at speed to keep the rain out of the car and fly into a parking garage and wait it out. lol I never left home without the soft top again.

[ViperDC]

Like other targas they should have a available a soft top too, previous Porsche and viper targa's I've had a hard and soft top. Use the hard top when driving like a coupe, always carry the accordion style soft top in the 'trunk' area, if you get caught in the rain, just pop it on. I got caught once with out it, had to keep moving at speed to keep the rain out of the car and fly into a parking garage and wait it out. lol I never left home without the soft top again.

They just released pricing and details on Facebook. Removable carbon fiber roof panel. It stores in the trunk the the conversion is only $9995. Applicable to any Gen 5 Viper, new or used. $1k deposit gets your car on the conversion schedule. They only posted one pic but the conversion roof looks just like the photoshopped green car posted earlier.

Sounds like yet another winner.

[ViperSmith]

$10,000 ain't bad at all. Wow.

[ViperTony]

This is the one and only picture they have of the Targa? I must be missing something but where are the rest of the pics of the targa from different view points?!?

10785

[Voice of Reason]

At least it's a real pic and not a rendering. That's the owners car based on the painted rear aero.

I'd like to see a walk around video of it and of the top stored in the trunk.

[Thawk97]

Many of us have been saying a Targa Viper would be beautiful. Turns out it is!

[ACRucrazy]

This is the one and only picture they have of the Targa? I must be missing something but where are the rest of the pics of the targa from different view points?!?

10785

Wow not bad. Can't wait to see more!

[Loud]

At least it's a real pic and not a rendering. That's the owners car based on the painted rear aero.

I'd like to see a walk around video of it and of the top stored in the trunk.

I think it is a chop, not real. Not liking what I am seeing.

[ViperDC]

I think it is a chop, not real. Not liking what I am seeing.

Looks like a targa top Viper to me. Out of curiosity what were you expecting to see?

I'm sure more pics are coming...

[Loud]

If it were real, I'd have expected more pics to market it right.

From a targa perspective, I don't know yet, will need to see more pics I guess. Something with a RT/10 / Gen V rear look? :)

[ViperDC]

If it were real, I'd have expected more pics to market it right.

From a targa perspective, I don't know yet, will need to see more pics I guess. Something with a RT/10 / Gen V rear look? :)

Would look cool but would definitely cost a substantial amount more then $10k. Much more of the car would have to be altered.

[Schen]

Yeah, gonna go on a whim and say PhotoShop since I saw that very car two weeks ago. LOL Very cool none the less! I like progress!

--RS

[slowhatch]

We want real pics!

http://itstartsatmidnight.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/83/2015/05/i-want-it-now3.gif

[J TNT]

It's real !!!! :)

[ViperTony]

So who's going to be the first to get a ACR targa conversion? :D

[ViperPete]

Need more pics of targa storage! Looks top notch though!

[slowhatch]

So who's going to be the first to get a ACR targa conversion? :D

Blasphemy.

[FrgMstr]

Dodge, gimme a damn convertible please.

[jvm728]

well, i called prefix last fall and asked them to do a targa on my gen 4, said i'd pay $10k for it, and sent them that green picture. guy said the green rendering looked sweet, that he'd get back to me after discussing with their engineers. Never did hear back... but here we are. $10k, now doing it for the masses on the gen 5's. i'm sure they can do a gen iv too.

[I Bin Therbefor]

Available directly through Prefix Performance or any Viper dealer

Warranty?

How are the convertibles ordered?

[ViperPete]

well, i called prefix last fall and asked them to do a targa on my gen 4, said i'd pay $10k for it, and sent them that green picture. guy said the green rendering looked sweet, that he'd get back to me after discussing with their engineers. Never did hear back... but here we are. $10k, now doing it for the masses on the gen 5's. i'm sure they can do a gen iv too.

Was gen IV carbon fiber?

I doubt they will be able to do it that cheaply. They have been painting/refinishing the GenV panels for years now. I bet it would be a PITA to do a Gen IV without lots of others who want it too. The tooling would be crazy expensive. Kim (owner of [Prefix) said that to do more convertibles and actually build the soft tops would easily cost 500k... IE not worth it.

[99RT10]

Dodge, gimme a damn convertible please.

Dodge is not that smart.

[sparkrn]

If that pic is real, I'm real disappointed. More needs to be done to the rear windows like the original RT 10. Sure hope Timmy and the boys come out with some sort of open cockpit soon.

[Victxv10]

Available directly through Prefix Performance or any Viper dealer

So is this self installed or do we have to ship the car to Prefix??

[Voice of Reason]

I just realized Prefix missed an opportunity here - they could have charged an extra $3,000 to paint stripes on the targa panel to match the rest of the car. LOL

[ViperSmith]

So is this self installed or do we have to ship the car to Prefix??
They ship you a saw zaw, a template and you do the rest. :p

I assume ship them the car. Perfect winter project!

[SmoknTires]

Here's the official press release the VOA got from Prefix today:

Prefix Corporation expands on their Viper customization program with another open air innovation.

(Rochester Hills, MI) - Performance car enthusiasts and specifically… Dodge Viper owners speak passionately about what they are looking for in Viper branded vehicles, and Prefix has once again heard them loud and clear.

This week, Prefix released news that will they be proceeding with a targa conversion of the 5th Generation Dodge Viper. The conversion can be completed on any new or used Gen 5 Viper, directly through Prefix or any dealership, and provides owners with a body-colored, removable, carbon fiber roof panel that conveniently stores in the vehicle’s trunk compartment for an open air experience. Current pricing for the targa conversion is $9,995.

As a tier 1 auto industry supplier, Rochester Hills, Michigan based Prefix Corporation has six Midwestern facilities including their 129,000 square foot state-of-the-art paint facility is where all 5th Generation Vipers are painted. Prefix is recognized throughout the auto and transportation industries as a premier source for prototypes and one-off models, as well as concept cars and even specialty vehicle creations for the film industry.

“We sincerely enjoy the friendships we have within the Viper community and appreciate hearing input directly from car owners and Viper Association members from around the globe.” explained Prefix President, Eric Zeile. “After we released the Medusa convertible version of the Viper last summer, we received many inquiries as to whether we would create a targa; it was a natural evolution.”

In addition to the targa and Medusa Vipers, the Prefix Performance team is also finalizing a se-ries of performance upgrades for the Viper line up. Their 2014 acquisition of Arrow Racing En-gines makes them uniquely qualified to design and create some seriously head-turning perfor-mance vehicles. A selection of modified Vipers will be on display at the Prefix Arrow Racing Grand Prix at the Pittsburgh International Race Complex on July 31st.

“We had already built an advanced painting facility for the Viper.” Continued Zeile, “Our entire organization has a vested interest in keeping people excited about this amazing example of American muscle. We have the ability to engineer and develop these types of modifications correctly, so we will continue to listen to what owners are looking for.”

Viper owners wanting to place an order for the targa conversion are asked to contact Prefix at: targa@prefix.com. For additional information on Prefix and their performance vehicle division, visit: www.prefix.com

[darbgnik]

If it were real, I'd have expected more pics to market it right.

From a targa perspective, I don't know yet, will need to see more pics I guess. Something with a RT/10 / Gen V rear look? :)


If that pic is real, I'm real disappointed. More needs to be done to the rear windows like the original RT 10. Sure hope Timmy and the boys come out with some sort of open cockpit soon.


I don't see the benefit in that. Remember all the Gen 3 and 4 guys paying good money to convert their 'vert rear ends into the coupe styling?

I still remember all the "Miata from the rear" comments....

I think the beauty of any targa top is keeping the coupe look, while being removable. Truly the best of both worlds. Looks like this kit is that.

I'm not much into the open air thing anymore, but if I was, this would be it, and 10K seems quite reasonable..............

[USWAG RT/10]

Uh oh...

http://www.torquenews.com/106/give-your-2013-2015-viper-targa-top-under-10k

What do you all think??

[Space Truckin]

Think it looks great, would like to see different views and attachment mechanism

[Bruce H.]

I think that is just great news! I first thought I'd wait for a convertible Gen V ...but then they brought out the TA and had to have it for the performance. Maybe now I can have both the performance and the open roof experience I loved and miss from my recently departed targa-roofed Supra and XKR vert. Need more photos and details about stowing roof and impact on cargo space and rigidity.

[Nemesis]

barfed

[Dman]

Incredible, finally an RT/10 like offering, and the price is very aggressive, it's almost that much for your basic 'mandatory' mods of exhaust and tune, for a custom targa, strongly on my consideration list, waiting for more pics and details.


Exciting times for the gen5 just never stop.

[ViperTony]

Any more pics of the Targa conversion besides the one in the press release? Really disappointed there aren't more views of this conversion.

[ViperPete]

Need more pics.

[City]

I like the concept, but I need more details and especially pics. When in place, how diminished is the car's rigidity? How does it store in the trunk?

PICS!!!

[Voice of Reason]

I like the concept, but I need more details and especially pics. When in place, how diminished is the car's rigidity? How does it store in the trunk?

PICS!!!

Agree with all this. I'd also add that I'd love to see a clear roof option like Corvette has. Sure it would probably weigh more than carbon fiber but I like the idea of having an open feel all the time.

[BJG32]

Any more pics of the Targa conversion besides the one in the press release? Really disappointed there aren't more views of this conversion.

At this point it is just annoying. I've seen hundreds of complaints about lack of pics on Facebook and here. Even if I like the targa I will not be doing business with Prefix. They seem disorganized and the never respond to inquiries for more pictures. It's like they don't care if they get orders or not. Not sure how you release info on a product without having all your ducks in a row, but whatever. Their handling of this product release sucks enough to scare me away....

I know there is another company with an excellent reputation that is working on doing another version of the targa. I'll wait and see what they offer.

[Dman]

Agree with all this. I'd also add that I'd love to see a clear roof option like Corvette has. Sure it would probably weigh more than carbon fiber but I like the idea of having an open feel all the time.

If they did that, I'd be done. I have this option on my GT500 & it's amazing, glass roof, worth the extra 20lbs IMO by a mile. I'd just call it my early xmas present & put the car on a transport, happy to be the ginny pig, Prefix, for just a slight discount. lol

[ViperTony]

At this point it is just annoying. I've seen hundreds of complaints about lack of pics on Facebook and here. Even if I like the targa I will not be doing business with Prefix. They seem disorganized and the never respond to inquiries for more pictures. It's like they don't care if they get orders or not. Not sure how you release info on a product without having all your ducks in a row, but whatever. Their handling of this product release sucks enough to scare me away....

I know there is another company with an excellent reputation that is working on doing another version of the targa. I'll wait and see what they offer.

Yeah, I'm not ready to get my panties up in a wad over it. Prefix does great work. Had I not met the team at Prefix I'd probably feel the way you do but I'm not ready to slit my throat over this. :)

[VENOM V]

Awesome! This is the one thing that I like that the Corvette has that we don't, and now folks have the option.

More pics!!

[Thawk97]

. Their handling of this product release sucks enough to scare me away....


Really....?

I'm hearing echos of lame commentary .... "if there was an ACR, or 800 hp, or a convertible - THEN I'd.....

[City]

FYI- I merged the 2 identical threads into this one.

[BJG32]

Yeah, I'm not ready to get my panties up in a wad over it. Prefix does great work. Had I not met the team at Prefix I'd probably feel the way you do but I'm not ready to slit my throat over this. :)

I wear thongs so I don't have a choice.

Prefix does do great work from what I hear, but as a marketing major this is just rubbing me the wrong way. When you have numerous potential customers asking for info and you just ignore them, It just seems crazy. They are asking people to hand over $1000 with only a single grainy photo from a rear 3/4 view. They are even paying to advertise this on Facebook etc.

From what I understand any Dodge dealership that sells viper can do this work. So you expand your reach. you'd think they'd want to much info as possible to potential buyers...especially when they are asking for it!

Then again the fact that RSI is still getting viper's in their shop tells me Viper owners don't seem to demand much in terms of customer service.

and Yes...I know Prefix will be just fine without my advice or business.


Over and out...

[TheAnonymousOne]

Targa is where it's at! Convertibles with the coupe rear don't flow. It's goofy looking

[rlhay2]

Reposting as the 1st one must have been mistakenly deleted:


1: Any photos of a completed car(s)? – the photo released is the only photo at this time – stay tuned for more soon

2. Does it require any chassis bracing? – No, roll bar stays in place and vehicle is designed for Roadster anyway so no additional bracing would be necessary anyway

3. Does the cowl shake with the top removed? No

4. Is the center piece available in a tinted Lexan/glass piece? - No, panel will match body color, or could be painted black if desired

5. How durable are the seals? Any warranty against leaks (air or water)? – production level seals, vehicle will come with 12 month, 12,000 mile warranty

6. How is the wind buffeting with the top removed at highway speeds, 60+? - Non-existent in initial testing

[XSnake]

At this point it is just annoying. I've seen hundreds of complaints about lack of pics on Facebook and here. Even if I like the targa I will not be doing business with Prefix. They seem disorganized and the never respond to inquiries for more pictures. It's like they don't care if they get orders or not. Not sure how you release info on a product without having all your ducks in a row, but whatever. Their handling of this product release sucks enough to scare me away....



Right, because manufacturers work with those kind of companies... :rolleyes:

[ViperPete]

Still hopefull.

[J TNT]

Personnally I see this being worth the wait from a Top Tier Company . :)

[Crotalidae]

I'll reserve judgement when I see additional photos but this looks promising...

[BJG32]

Right, because manufacturers work with those kind of companies... :rolleyes:

Point well taken, but for $10k you only get a hole in your roof and only a 12 month warranty. I think because they charged $30K+ to put a gen 3/4 rag top on the car people think $10k is a steal. I considered it for half a day.

I'll hang on to my roof and hope Dodge releases a convertible... ...I am guessing Medusa owners would feel otherwise though!

[Newport Viper]

$10K for more Chop Shoppery. Viper please... I know where you can get it done for Tree-Fiddy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/boredbeish/0904081803.jpg

[BJG32]

$10K for more Chop Shoppery. Viper please... I know where you can get it done for Tree-Fiddy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/boredbeish/0904081803.jpg

Ha! Looks clean...What kind warranty you offering?

[J TNT]

I knew someone could do it for Less !!!......lol ! ;)

$10K for more Chop Shoppery. Viper please... I know where you can get it done for Tree-Fiddy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/boredbeish/0904081803.jpg

[Coloviper]

Looks like the GTS Lutz drove at the Indy 500 in 1996.

[Dman]

$10K for more Chop Shoppery. Viper please... I know where you can get it done for Tree-Fiddy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v675/boredbeish/0904081803.jpg


Is that a C8 prototype?

(you know someone had to make that joke)

[USWAG RT/10]

Emailed with Eric, president of Prefix and got some more info:

Any more pictures or brochures? We're working on this.
Where is the work done? At our manufacturing facility where we paint every production Viper as well in Auburn Hills, MI
How long does it take? This will depend on where your car fits into the queue and our volume. We don't expect a lengthy process however.
Is the roof painted to match car with stripes? Yes
how does it stow? pix? Yes it does, working on a good pic to show.
how heavy is the top? Will have to weigh it. Stay tuned.
warranty? For our portion, 12 months, 12,000 miles whichever comes first
what about rigidity? need extra bracing? No. Car was originally designed as a convertible and is structurally sound.
What if it leaks? Obviously, we don't expect this, However, if under warranty, we would take care of it.
Is it air tight or will there be wind noise? We believe customers will be pleased.
Same double bubble roof look? Yes
Available in clear? No
How does it latch? Pins in the back, single latch front center
How fast can you go and will it hold? We've had it at 104 with top off, see no concerns with top on.

[GBS]

I think it would be a great option but $10k for CF Targa top seems excessively over priced. Dodge needs to give people want they want and offer a convertible and a targa top.

[XSnake]

I think it would be a great option but $10k for CF Targa top seems excessively over priced. Dodge needs to give people want they want and offer a convertible and a targa top.
Not going to happen from what I've heard.

[Coloviper]

If Dodge money is spent more to advancing the car as a GEN VI versus on a convertible for the current GEN, so be it! Better to put it into a new GEN VI, I believe most would agree. Honestly depending on what is involved with the kit, $10K is not too bad a number once you add in paint, install, custom close off pieces, rear top bolt bar, rubbers, etc., etc., etc. all hidden and factory looking.

At the rate they are going, it would be better if Prefix just offered the completed Viper to order, like a Saleen, or Callaway, etc. That way it is as close as you can get from the factory, yet have a unique serial number to track the car as pre-delivered to the owner versus aftermarket mods. It would have the cars holding their value much better hence easier to justify the mods at Prefix.

[Bruce H.]

The price could surely be lower if the targa was a factory option, but since they don't appear willing or able to satisfy everybody's desire for changes then this has to be considered a bargain for those who really want an open roof. And because it's Prefix doing the work then I think it will be a very desirable feature that will increase the value of the car accordingly, and unlike most modifications. I'd have zero concerns having them do my TA, and it would be a screaming bargain compared to trading the TA for a factory vert or targa should it ever be offered.

[ViperSmith]

People will spend nearly that on rims for their car.

$10k is an attractive price if you want it done from a reputable shop.

[rlhay2]

I am torn between a TT kit and the targa top.

1st world problems : I can't afford to do both!

[slovenom]

It looks pretty bad ass!!

[Viktimize]

I am torn between a TT kit and the targa top.

1st world problems : I can't afford to do both!

With one being triple the price of the other I would guess it wouldn't be hard to do the expensive one first, and then come up with another 10k later down the road.

[Vombomb]

I am torn between a TT kit and the targa top.

1st world problems : I can't afford to do both!

Targa!!!

[socal]

A 10k turbo kit sounds affordably dangerous.

[Vombomb]

A 10k turbo kit sounds affordably dangerous.

Don't let Gadfly see that!!! Lmao

[socal]

Don't let Gadfly see that!!! Lmao

Perhaps that came off wrong. Just meant that a turbo system as cheap as 10k sounds like a great way to mess up a really nice Viper.

[Bruce H.]

With one being triple the price of the other I would guess it wouldn't be hard to do the expensive one first, and then come up with another 10k later down the road.

Socal,

He's saying turbo $30k vs the targa at $10k.

[socal]

Socal,

He's saying turbo $30k vs the targa at $10k.

Roger that

[XSTAR]

So 2 weeks and no pics yet?!

[rlhay2]

They posted some additional pics on facebook. But nothing revealing any detail yet.

[XSnake]

I think Beth P must have taken over Prefix marketing

[Canadian venom]

I think Beth P must have taken over Prefix marketing

lol

[Eachey51]

Prefix posted a picture of the targa roof mounted in the trunk on their fb page.

[Viktimize]

Prefix posted a picture of the targa roof mounted in the trunk on their fb page.

Where? Last post of theirs I see is on June 1, 2015 of a Charger Hellcat with driver stripe.

Edit- Found it!!! Red car, with panel sitting lengthwise in trunk.

[cubican]

Well I'm not happy with it at all, now we know why there are no good pics.
12082

[Brian GTS]

Well I'm not happy with it at all, now we know why there are no good pics.
12082

I love it. What would you change?

[cubican]

The vent section looks out of place, now a see why dodge dint make it a targa from the get go.

[FrgMstr]

Well I'm not happy with it at all, now we know why there are no good pics.
12082

That looks horrible. Lines are all wrong. Looks totally aftermarket...which it is. My vert will be holding a bit more value. :D

[darbgnik]

I wouldn't call it horrible, but it looks like the brake duct is in the way of a clean line......

[Crotalidae]

Need more pics...but I do agree from the above only pic it does look awkward...

[J TNT]

There should be one to see in person at the "Woodward Dream Cruise "

[BlknBlu]

seen other pics of it yesterday, with a buddy up in Detroit. Lets just say, I would not purchase one.

Bruce

[SLViper]

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Seems more like this after seeing pics....12092
Disclaimer: This is IMHO and at least no actual Vipers were harmed to bring you this post!

[Simms]

The look may not be flawless, but it really doesn't bother me too bad.

[cubican]

Few more pics with top on.
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[viperdriver5150]

You know its bad when you look at it with the top on and say "that looks much better now"...

[cubican]

Just to compare to other targa tops
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[98intrigue]

I can't imagine a better design of the cutout, but that's not to say I love it. Had they done a straight cut from window to window, the roof would cover part of the occupants. The only way to give the occupants a full view is to have the roof cutout like that. Blame it on the massive V10 I guess.

[donk_316]

Prefix just released actual pictures and pricing. Reserve your spot for $1000. $9995 for conversion.

It's a shame it's not just factory standard like the Vette.

[ViperPete]

Prefix just released actual pictures and pricing. Reserve your spot for $1000. $9995 for conversion.

It's a shame it's not just factory standard like the Vette.

Where did they release that?

[J TNT]

I just received an email from Prefix on details , if you email them you will get complete info and updates ! fwiw

[DPViper]

That looks horrible....

[ViperTony]

I'd have to see in person up close before I make up my mind about it.

[ViperSmith]

I don't think it looks bad

then again i am not a vert/targa guy so my opinion is useless

[Voice of Reason]

The cut not being straight across baffles me. This is taking function over form but I'd rather see form win here. I already can't see out the front window properly, may as well restrict upward visibility as well to make it look right.

[Viktimize]

I'd prefer a straight cut across as well. It's not like you'd be restricting visibility anyway, how often does a guy lean his head back and push it straight into the back of the seat? In my normal driving position I would be looking up and seeing sky just fine. Besides it is a lot more about having the open air than it is about a view. I never drove around in my old vert looking up at the sky, it was just nice to feel the wind.


That said, this current design wouldn't stop me from getting it. However I am interested to see what else is coming down the pipe from whoever else has a targa in the works.

[ViperSmith]

The cut not being straight across baffles me. This is taking function over form but I'd rather see form win here. I already can't see out the front window properly, may as well restrict upward visibility as well to make it look right.

I'd have to assume they played with a bunch of combos, I would assume there was an engineering decision behind it.

Would be curious what it is.

[BJG32]

The lack of pictures now makes sense. Its fugly...a very chop job looking mod.

[rlhay2]

The cut not being straight across baffles me.

I think they were a bit too focused on an "open air concept".
IMHO, that cut should go straight across.
The lines would look better, it would be easier to cut, easier to seal (wind, water, noise, etc..).

Perhaps there is a reason for the current design, if so hopefully a rep from Prefix will respond.

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[mblgjr]

I cant imagine the amount of wind noise its going to have with the top on.

Fair idea. Not wild about execution.

[ACRucrazy]

Can we get some full photos of the car now?

[Slithr]

I'd have to assume they played with a bunch of combos, I would assume there was an engineering decision behind it.

Would be curious what it is.

My guess, anything other than what you see would've required a window redesign. Therefore the compromise was ease of modification, mod cost that allows the Gen V guy/gal to have open air for 10k vs Medusa 30k. Badass lines ..... not so much. Just another after market mod available to the Viper crowd ..... good times in Viper land!

[cubican]

More pics;
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For the looks of the first pic the back is taller than the front, not sure how that's going to affect the wind inside the cabin.

[BJG32]

More pics;
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For the looks of the first pic the back is taller than the front, not sure how that's going to affect the wind inside the cabin.

They tried to salvage the oem brake ducts. Should have just designed new ones. This does not look right.

[RSNAKE]

They tried to salvage the oem brake ducts. Should have just designed new ones. This does not look right.

If they did that, they would have had to use different shaped side window glass too.

[FrgMstr]

More pics;
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For the looks of the first pic the back is taller than the front, not sure how that's going to affect the wind inside the cabin.

Did not figure it would look even more stupid from other angles, but yep...it does.

[viperdriver5150]

Quite possibly the most ridiculous thing I have seen. The Gen V Viper is a beautiful car, and that is just embarrassing. Not to mention, a person has to pay 10k to make it look that bad. Can someone give me a swift kick in the ass for good measure?

[BJG32]

If they did that, they would have had to use different shaped side window glass too.

That idea didn't last long! Plastic Gen 1 windows then!

I am 100% convinced now that the picture delay was just panic on the part of prefix coming up with solution. The strategic rear 3/4 view doesn't show it's design flaw. I can not believe they would stop at what we are seeing here. Has to be a prototype. I would not do that conversion even if it was free...

[ViperSmith]

That idea didn't last long! Plastic Gen 1 windows then!

I am 100% convinced now that the picture delay was just panic on the part of prefix coming up with solution. The strategic rear 3/4 view doesn't show it's design flaw. I can not believe they would stop at what we are seeing here. Has to be a prototype. I would not do that conversion even if it was free...

I'd imagine they had done 10 iterations of it on the 10 Medusa's they did the conversions on and arrived at this.

[Coloviper]

Doesn't require a new window but does require a new RT/10 style post to make the straight angles look good. I am sorry and trying to be a supporter but the Medusa is 10000% better. Like others said, could be free and would not do that option. Dodge better chop the top factory style now.

[cubican]

I'm still shocked that we have an acr before a convertible, if dodge is looking to sell cars the vert/targa is the way to increased sales in significant #.

[BJG32]

I think they were a bit too focused on an "open air concept".
IMHO, that cut should go straight across.
The lines would look better, it would be easier to cut, easier to seal (wind, water, noise, etc..).

Perhaps there is a reason for the current design, if so hopefully a rep from Prefix will respond.

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Looking at this I think going straight across would of given the car a "parachute" effect. It appears the roof is still heading up from where they cut. There is no way to do this right without redesigning trunk, glass and top...IMO

[ViperTony]

Looking at this I think going straight across would of given the car a "parachute" effect. It appears the roof is still heading up from where they cut. There is no way to do this right without redesigning trunk, glass and top...IMO

Agreed. I think what's causing the concern with the cut are the pillars. I sat in my GenV this weekend to envision how a straight cut across the top would look and feel. I think it would've looked like crap. My head would be under the 'straight' cut version and would've felt very odd. The way Arrow makes the cut seems correct for maximum exposure from the cockpit. I think the issue are the pillars. They would need to be designed such that they are further back and flow with the cut (think the RT/10 and sport cap). I think for what Arrow was able to accomplish without redesigning the GenV they did a good job with the targa top.

[Dman]

First, I give them serious props for this effort, and trying to give owners who are looking for this, what they want. I know I was one seriously considering this, to the point I stuck some cash aside already.

Second, those angle shots are just tragic. I'm a targa lover, but I just couldn't do that to a beautiful gen5. Maybe new pics & vid will come out showing it to be much nicer than these appear, but for now ... my $10k seems to be going into my possible TA 2.0/ACR fund.

[ACRucrazy]

Still waiting on normal photos of a full car.

[ACRucrazy]

Real pictures.

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[J TNT]

Those shots look better .
Looking forward to seeing it up close in August . :)

[darbgnik]

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When compared to the vette targa, you can definitely see how the straight line across looks cleaner. But then you can also see why Prefix scooped it rearward a bit more, as the seats in the Gen V are proportionally further back.

One other thing you can glean from this pic is that the targa top removed doesn't exactly improve the vettes appearance either(probably the reason I never saw a vette with the roof off, and had to search for it). But then again, my thought with a targa was that most of the time it would be installed, so how it looks installed is more important. With the top off, and you in the drivers seat, you can't see it anyway. I guess sales numbers will tell the tale of how many just want open top motoring vs how they want to look doing it.

[TexasSnake]

Pay $10K to ruin the appearance of your Viper...no thanks!

[FrgMstr]

Real pictures.

"Real" pictures with the camera set on the ground and way up in the air.

[Austin]

Looks good from those "unrealistic" angles.

[cubican]

Few more pics
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[VYPR BYT]

A cut Straight across would look stupid because the opening would be soo small... you'd barley squeeze a helmet between so why bother.
The windshield slants back dramatically, the drivers head sits aft so much in a viper it's basically back by the rear wheels which should be news to nobody. Also you either leave the brake duct as-is or eliminate it cuz you can't tip it up vertically and/or make it smaller since it won't function.

As a design engineer I can tell you this about the lines...
One change to this design increases the price - dramatically. Prefix worked around the pre-existing design constraints while trying to make minimal changes for $$ sake. I can see the challenges they had with this and I applaud their efforts.

[FrgMstr]

A cut Straight across would look stupid because the opening would be soo small... you'd barley squeeze a helmet between so why bother.
The windshield slants back dramatically, the drivers head sits aft so much in a viper it's basically back by the rear wheels which should be news to nobody. Also you either leave the brake duct as-is or eliminate it cuz you can't tip it up vertically and/or make it smaller since it won't function.

As a design engineer I can tell you this about the lines...
One change to this design increases the price - dramatically. Prefix worked around the pre-existing design constraints while trying to make minimal changes for $$ sake. I can see the challenges they had with this and I applaud their efforts.

I get all that, no problem. Still does not mean it looks right. Because it can be done does not mean it should be done.

[ACRucrazy]

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[Aspirations57]

Dodge, gimme a damn convertible please.


That looks horrible. Lines are all wrong. Looks totally aftermarket...which it is. My vert will be holding a bit more value. :D


Did not figure it would look even more stupid from other angles, but yep...it does.


"Real" pictures with the camera set on the ground and way up in the air.


I get all that, no problem. Still does not mean it looks right. Because it can be done does not mean it should be done.

HOLY Mother of God FRG MSTR we get it you DONT LIKE THE TARGA TOP !!!!! Sheesh....No-one is forcing you to buy it, why dont you give Prefix some credit for trying to please the Viper faithful. You must be really dissatisfied with your vert on some level to be dissing this top so bad.
I wish they would have styled it differently but I understand now the constraints Prefix met with. I hope Dodge (if they decide to build a Gen.V. vert) runs the plans by you first before they decide to make it,lol....

[donk_316]

I would do it. Price is the issue for me.

[Aspirations57]

I would do it. Price is the issue for me.

I wonder how much it would cost if it was a factory issued option? I would think some people would be torn on spending 10k on the targa top or maybe performance items.

[donk_316]

The car was designed from day 1 to eventually be roofless. Factory option seems like a no-brainer.

[apeas2]

The car was designed from day 1 to eventually be roofless. Factory option seems like a no-brainer.

The original Viper (Old frame/tub) was originally designed as a roadster/Vert. I am not so sure this new tub/frame was.

[TooBlue]

Fugly....

[98intrigue]

The side view is not as bad as I thought. It's great to have the option though.

[Disturbed]

Dig it! Well done.


Get that blower and 8sp in this and I'm back in a Viper.

[Steve M]

The original Viper (Old frame/tub) was originally designed as a roadster/Vert. I am not so sure this new tub/frame was.

The frame appears to be an even stiffer version of what was used on the Gen 3/4 Viper, which was originally designed to be a vert. I can't see how the Gen 5 frame wouldn't be up to the task.

[Disturbed]

The original Viper (Old frame/tub) was originally designed as a roadster/Vert. I am not so sure this new tub/frame was.



Do you have any idea how much of the Gen5 is shared with the perivous gens? The Gen 5 is not new from the ground up. A few minor engine/chassis tweeks from Gen3/4. Mostly what is new on the Gen5 is the body and interior. Hubs are still the same from 1992 from the Dakota it looks like to me. Pretty sweet they have been able to use the part for so long. The diff is also still a Dana 44 that dates back to the 1940's.....long before I was born.

[Dman]

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Well that's another good. You can make anything look strange or whatever with a bad angle pic, so far all the new pics look much better. Still love to see a vid walk around, etc., but how it looks depends on the pic at this point.

[FrgMstr]

HOLY Mother of God FRG MSTR we get it you DONT LIKE THE TARGA TOP !!!!! Sheesh....No-one is forcing you to buy it, why dont you give Prefix some credit for trying to please the Viper faithful. You must be really dissatisfied with your vert on some level to be dissing this top so bad.
I wish they would have styled it differently but I understand now the constraints Prefix met with. I hope Dodge (if they decide to build a Gen.V. vert) runs the plans by you first before they decide to make it,lol....

Nope, not giving any credit to Prefix on this abortion, no matter how much you get your panties in a wad about my thoughts and type about gods or mothers or contraints. Because it can be done does not mean that it should be done, and that is exactly what this is. Hell, Prefix still can't sell the 10 convertibles it made. If you have seen one of those in person, there are proportion problems with it as well IMO.

:stickmen_burningsti

Come on Dodge, give us a real Vert!

[Dman]

Nope, not giving any credit to Prefix on this abortion, no matter how much you get your panties in a wad about my thoughts and type about gods or mothers or contraints. Because it can be done does not mean that it should be done, and that is exactly what this is. Hell, Prefix still can't sell the 10 convertibles it made. If you have seen one of those in person, there are proportion problems with it as well IMO.

:stickmen_burningsti

Come on Dodge, give us a real Vert!

I think the problem with the Medusa is out of the gate it's so darn much money, on that I agree. I'd like a vert but I'm not paying and avg of $150k to get one. I've seen good pics and not so good ones of the Medusa, IMO it seriously needs an autoform or similar rollbar on it, looks naked without it, too flat. But I do give Prefix credit, takes a pretty brave group to try what they're doing and leading the pack, IMO. Whether you like it or not, at least this price point is realistic IMO for someone in the market for it, if not down right value priced for the volume. The coupe has such a sexy line, the roof is so well sculpted, tough order for anyone, at least with the Targa, you can have the coupe look any time you want, and pop it off for open air. I love the targa design in general, on the gen5, some will hate it, some will love it, I'm on the fence still and getting a wedgie.

[ACRucrazy]

Well that's another good. You can make anything look strange or whatever with a bad angle pic, so far all the new pics look much better. Still love to see a vid walk around, etc., but how it looks depends on the pic at this point.

Looks like it also has the big brake 6 piston kit on the front. :drive:

[Coloviper]

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Okay, someone with the photoshop skills, take this picture remove the rear ducktail rounding out the back, and change the rear roof and window to more of a RT Sports Bar. You can still add small side scoops to the sports bar sides so that they are a little functional. I am willing to bet that absolutely fixes all the proportions and cleans everything up. So let's recap:

New removable top above driver's head, new truck lid, new rear upper fenders, new sports bar and a few Medusa trunk items inside the trunk. Done and done! Hell most of the pieces underneath the skin are already there from Medusa.

The car is so close to being an acceptable open air roadster, you can almost taste it. While I absolutely applaud Prefix as a company and what they have done for our cars, brand, etc., what is presented is just hard on the eyes.

[ViperPete]

I saw the graphite Medusa a few months back...

I think that car is gorgeouser than my coupe... honestly. I think the lines, the proportions... look perfect.

[Austin]

Did this quite a while ago, but its relevant to this thread, IMO.



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[XSnake]

The original Viper (Old frame/tub) was originally designed as a roadster/Vert. I am not so sure this new tub/frame was.

New frame is much stiffer than the old frame so there is no issues there.

[v10CodeMonkey]

The more I see it the more I kinda like it. Let's see a Gen IV option....

[ACRucrazy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=29&v=IBZRcUjZtcI

[commandomatt]

Did this quite a while ago, but its relevant to this thread, IMO.



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Austin,

While I am not a Targa guy, what you have created here is awesome looking and so much better than the Prefix version that it makes the Prefix look like a weekend job with some power tools....nice work !

The Prefix one does something that just isn't right. Maybe it the air duct, maybe its the incredibly thick rubber all the way around like its covering poorly cut panels, maybe the curve on the back....don't know. Agree with Colo, its hard on the eyes

I also don't think the 10K for the conversion should play any part in whether its good or not. If they couldn't get it done for 10K, then they should have put more work into it and offered it for 15...or 18K. We are talking about cutting up a 100K car here. Make it right or don't make it at all

[viperdriver5150]

It looks better with some of the professional pictures and video. I still couldn't do it to a factory coupe. I think they might also want to make the video a little more professional when laying the roof in the trunk, he didn't latch it in or anything (they must do something), not to mention, the trunk is completely useless when stored....

[AutoformSteve]

I have always thought this is a good idea as per my "in confidence" conversations with people in this industry. (lesson learned)
The way I heard the video... it starts at just under 10K? I think I understood that correctly? To me it looks like this product is still ideation...not necessarily finished tooling and finalized design, weather-seal and rear latches ect.
It is a really tough project to take on design and engineering wise, but once the process is in place, it will be a fairly straight forward conversion. if anyone ever changes their mind...or the next owner wants a coupe...it would be pretty simple to convert back to a solid roof...it would just mean a new roof section and paint.
I don't know...but I would think for 10k you get your original roof section and interior pieces back.

[Austin]

Thank you. After seeing the video, it does look a little better. That color combo (paint and and interior) is one of the best I have seen bar-none. Absolutely love it.





Austin,

While I am not a Targa guy, what you have created here is awesome looking and so much better than the Prefix version that it makes the Prefix look like a weekend job with some power tools....nice work !

The Prefix one does something that just isn't right. Maybe it the air duct, maybe its the incredibly thick rubber all the way around like its covering poorly cut panels, maybe the curve on the back....don't know. Agree with Colo, its hard on the eyes

I also don't think the 10K for the conversion should play any part in whether its good or not. If they couldn't get it done for 10K, then they should have put more work into it and offered it for 15...or 18K. We are talking about cutting up a 100K car here. Make it right or don't make it at all

[BJG32]

Did this quite a while ago, but its relevant to this thread, IMO.



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I like that! but the door glass has to be changed too....

[ViperDC]

Did this quite a while ago, but its relevant to this thread, IMO.



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Looks great but would cost a fortune

[BJG32]

Looks great but would cost a fortune

Very true, if Prefix did the option. Wasn't Medusa like $30-40k? This would be like $50k....yikes.

[ViperDC]

the Gen V tail lights and body lines are really conducive the RT/10 look. Dodge should build this

[ViperTony]

Austin's rendering is very nice and it wouldn't surprise me if we saw the RT Sport Pad design in a future GenV/VI model. There was a hint of this in one of Dodge's Viper promotional videos. Can't remember the name but it was briefly shown in the scene whereby the sculptor was sculpting the clay on the rear of a GenV.

Austin: Can you render a version of this without the sport cap keeping the rear hatch? If the Targa had the side-profile by door/pillar you depict about I think that would be a slam dunk. I do believe the air duct/pillar by the doors on the targa needs to reflect what you did in that area above with your sport cap.

[The_Greg]

The TA/RT would be a serious overhaul. The ducts behind the window cool the diff so you'd need to substitute air from somewhere else. The whole rear hatch, and inside of the trunk, would need to be reworked. New glass and likely new window regulator mechanism. Window geometry like that is pretty poor for aerodynamics too, and I imagine there wouldn't be a place to store the hard top.

I like the targa option enough as is for the price. Might not be perfect, but it's also not $30k like the convertible option.

[donk_316]

They should look at doing a pure spider option. Would solve a lot of these issues and wouldnt be 10-25k

Still can't wrap my head around 9995 for targa

[ViperSmith]

They should look at doing a pure spider option. Would solve a lot of these issues and wouldnt be 10-25k

Still can't wrap my head around 9995 for targa

Labor, paint, R&D. It is carbon fiber, not sheet metal.

Is this another "I could do it for less" argument?

[J TNT]

As a convertible guy , I would consider this . I am also glad Prefix stood up to the plate to make this an option !!! As oppossed to No option at all !
Unless someone else offers a more viable alternative , I don't see the point in being overly critical . imo .

[Crotalidae]

It's growing on me now...

[Austin]

I had done the render because countless people had asked to see how the GEN V would look as an RT. It was more or less just for fun and done way before all of this came up. Understandably this conversion would obviously be a lot more money to do, but still looks cool, IMO. I just dont understand why Dodge hasnt done a convertible from the factory. What are they waiting for? Just very weird. Take example the new Ferrari 488. This car just came out less than a year ago and Ferrari has already just announced the spyder version. If Ferrari can do it, then Dodge can for the Viper as well. IMO, Dodge is missing out. Ok, so they came out with an ACR, but how many people are going to buy the ACR? Not as many as a convertible. Just sayin'.

[gpearl]

I'd have bought a convertible in a heartbeat if it was available.

[Coloviper]

2017 is 25th Anniversary for the Viper so it makes absolute sense we will not see it before then from Dodge and if they in fact, were doing a convertible or roadster, that would be the year to take it back to the original look as an anniversary car. Then again they are funny guys. Might only have 250 made and with no options, just all red cars, just to have fun with people. Who knows, they may even bring back a one model 3 spoke rim. Ha! Ha!

[TCurtner]

The cut not being straight across baffles me. This is taking function over form but I'd rather see form win here. I already can't see out the front window properly, may as well restrict upward visibility as well to make it look right.

So what happens when you open the door to get out - do you have to execute the exit with finesse to avoid whacking your temple or other parts of head? I don't mind the look but the practicality of the cut shape has set me thinking...:slap:


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However, i think it looks fine- in fact from the side kinda sick. Which is cool. the Viper already is so different than the vette (thank the Heavens) this just augments the difference...

[ACRucrazy]

So what happens when you open the door to get out - do you have to execute the exit with finesse to avoid whacking your temple or other parts of head? I don't mind the look but the practicality of the cut shape has set me thinking...:slap:

They didn't add anything to the roof or the side. You wouldn't whack your temple on the duct getting into a regular Gen V, why would you with the targa?

[TCurtner]

They didn't add anything to the roof or the side. You wouldn't whack your temple on the duct getting into a regular Gen V, why would you with the targa?

Understood, but when rolling out, don't have the top to suggest that you duck so, maybe the sharp edge jutting out becomes an issue?? Haven't had the fortune to be in a Gen V yet...that time is soon to come.

[Dman]

I'm not sure why, but I find it easier to get in and out of the gen5 then all my previous vipers, this is my first coupe so that may be part of it. I also notice my helmet almost never makes contact with the window edge roof line, which on my previous vipers, with the roof up, my helmet would bounce off of that area constantly, a bit annoying. I'm 6'3".

[ViperPete]

I bet it's a hell of a lot easier to get into than the coupe.

[XSnake]

lol @ you guys thinking its hard to get in and out of the cars. Try it with a cage w/ door bars and a race seat with halo.

[vegasgtr]

I love it ! looks awesome and OEM. the price is a little high for me. If there were 2 vipers for the same price one being targa. I would buy the Targa all day. Loved my targa on my C7. it was so much fun driving with roof off.

[zee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=29&v=IBZRcUjZtcI

Wow - this looks pretty awesome. Well done

[99RT10]

Wow - this looks pretty awesome. Well done

Saw this car up close, in person at the Mopar Nats. Very well done and is a steal at $9995. Prefix did a great job

[ViperDog]

It looks better with some of the professional pictures and video. I still couldn't do it to a factory coupe. I think they might also want to make the video a little more professional when laying the roof in the trunk, he didn't latch it in or anything (they must do something), not to mention, the trunk is completely useless when stored....

Not really; you still have the trunk well to put stuff in......

[Simms]

Saw this car up close, in person at the Mopar Nats. Very well done and is a steal at $9995. Prefix did a great job

I agree with Mike. Saw that car in person at NARRA and it looked MUCH better.

[Viktimize]

Not really; you still have the trunk well to put stuff in......

This is why some up close pics would be nice. Because it sure looks like that top sits right into the trunk well, which would make it useless as mentioned. Hard to say though, there might be a tiny bit of space left for a bag.