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slowhatch
05-08-2015, 08:17 AM
Feast your eyes, she's back folks!

Here you go :car-smiley-003:

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Stretch
05-08-2015, 08:18 AM
Holy crap that's awesome!

Coloviper
05-08-2015, 08:22 AM
But it has no fog lights? Ha! Ha! Seriously, that is a great mean looking machine. Awesome news!

Nine Ball
05-08-2015, 08:24 AM
:)

https://www.facebook.com/nineballgarage

Tony

V1P3R
05-08-2015, 08:24 AM
Uh oh, things about to blow up!!

MBG2.0
05-08-2015, 08:30 AM
Mother of all rear wings batman...and I am sure that's just a start.

Sainthitch
05-08-2015, 08:30 AM
holy hell!!!

bogdan
05-08-2015, 08:31 AM
Sweeeeet!

I can't wait to hear all the other performance car camps cry about it. :smilielol:

Dman
05-08-2015, 08:31 AM
This just in, clean and babied black and silver 2013 loaded GTS for sale less than 2k miles. Now, who do I pace an order with?

But first, need to replace my keyboard due to drool damage.

BDZ1984
05-08-2015, 08:32 AM
WoW!!!!!!!!!

ViperJon
05-08-2015, 08:33 AM
Why couldn't they have had that at the New York Auto show?????
Make a big splash!! Awesome-ness.

98intrigue
05-08-2015, 08:34 AM
Oh, F me... does that mean I'll have an opportunity to pick up a used TA in a year?

V1P3R
05-08-2015, 08:36 AM
Oh, F me... does that mean I'll have an opportunity to pick up a used TA in a year?

Ummm, I'm going to say....yes. I know it's sticking my neck out on that kind of prediction, but it is Friday!

Stretch
05-08-2015, 08:39 AM
I sent the link to my wife and this was her response...... "That looks like trouble!"


She could not be more correct.

slowhatch
05-08-2015, 08:43 AM
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff78/alexkorovin01/_20150508_084136_zpspybm4zbu.jpg (http://s240.photobucket.com/user/alexkorovin01/media/_20150508_084136_zpspybm4zbu.jpg.html)

ViperJon
05-08-2015, 08:44 AM
Oh, F me... does that mean I'll have an opportunity to pick up a used TA in a year?

Maybe, and in orange too....:)
Jesus look at that front splitter...double canards....monstrous wing....that's a serious car.

1.8t
05-08-2015, 08:45 AM
The king is back!

slowhatch
05-08-2015, 08:48 AM
This thing will ruin exotic car owners hopes and dreams at the track. Can't wait.

smhog
05-08-2015, 08:55 AM
There's a short vid on allpar.com, Tim states 45 hp more. However I got the feeling he is refering to the difference between Gen IV and Gen V.

What tires are on the car? I know someone can tell from the tread.

Silver is a great color to use.

ViperPete
05-08-2015, 08:56 AM
SO THATS WHAT THEY WERE HIDING BEHIND THAT HUGE PLASTIC SHEET! They weren't "polishing" the floors at all!

ACR Steve
05-08-2015, 08:57 AM
Nice car :)

Lets see how it prices out

My bet is thats the optional splitter . Its a monster for the street but it will sure work well on track

Canadian venom
05-08-2015, 08:59 AM
http://www.drivesrt.com/viper-acr/gallery/

ACRucrazy
05-08-2015, 09:00 AM
the new viper acr honors its long-standing legacy as the ultimate street-legal race car through significant aerodynamic and suspension upgrades, new carbon ceramic brakes with six-piston calipers and high-performance tires specifically designed for acr

new acr extreme aero package delivers nearly 1 ton of peak downforce at top speed through massive adjustable dual-element carbon fiber rear wing, rear carbon fiber diffuser, unique srt hood with removable louvers, detachable extension for the front splitter and additional dive planes

delivers ultimate in stopping performance with unprecedented brake fade resistance through acr-exclusive carbon ceramic matrix 15-inch two-piece rotors and six-piston front calipers from brembo®

unique race-tuned suspension features 10-setting, double-adjustable, coil-over bilstein racing shocks and unique race alignment delivering up to 3 inches of suspension height adjustment for fine tuning corner weight

the latest race tire compound technology with massive kumho® ecsta v720 high-performance tires (295/25/19 front, 355/30/19 rear), designed specifically for the 2016 dodge viper acr, delivers laps times that are 1.5 seconds faster than off-road only race tires

combination of suspension, aero treatment and acr-specific tires delivers sustainable 1.5 g cornering during high-speed turns

lightweight carpet, minimal three speaker audio, manual seats and carbon ceramic matrix brakes offset added performance elements while maintaining optimal 50/50 weight distribution

powered by iconic, hand-built 8.4-liter v-10 engine rated at 645 horsepower and 600 lb.-ft. Of torque – the most torque of any naturally aspirated sports-car engine in the world

unique alcantara hand-crafted interior features iconic ‘acr’ dash badge and accent stitching

offering ‘1 of 1’ customization option for the ultimate personalized viper acr

production of the hand-built 2016 dodge viper acr begins in detroit in the third quarter of 2015

CCB.

Still love that underlined bit. Never gets old..

Canadian venom
05-08-2015, 09:01 AM
Carbon ceramic brake.....:fpopcorn:

V1P3R
05-08-2015, 09:01 AM
SO THATS WHAT THEY WERE HIDING BEHIND THAT HUGE PLASTIC SHEET! They weren't "polishing" the floors at all!

Why those sneaky sons a b^!*$

swexlin
05-08-2015, 09:03 AM
Kumho tires specifically developed. I assume they will fit all Gen 5 wheels? Gives us another nice tire option. I see it's getting the 6-piston front Brembos like the the Hellcat + ceramic rotors. (Pricey but wow!)

V1P3R
05-08-2015, 09:06 AM
Friday just got a lot better!!

Utahviper
05-08-2015, 09:06 AM
No more HP. But it's got carbon ceramic brakes. Looks awesome! Can't wait to see how it does on the track ��

Tomball-Dodge
05-08-2015, 09:07 AM
Exciting and Incredible News She'sssssssss back. 2016 Dodge Viper ACR unveiled this AM at CAAP. Enjoy.



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XSnake
05-08-2015, 09:07 AM
Kumho tires, very interesting

FLATOUT
05-08-2015, 09:07 AM
Damn That is impressive! Wow!

XSnake
05-08-2015, 09:08 AM
Kumho tires specifically developed. I assume they will fit all Gen 5 wheels? Gives us another nice tire option. I see it's getting the 6-piston front Brembos like the the Hellcat + ceramic rotors. (Pricey but wow!)

If you get the 19" front ACR rims

Voice of Reason
05-08-2015, 09:09 AM
Kumho tires specifically developed. I assume they will fit all Gen 5 wheels? Gives us another nice tire option. I see it's getting the 6-piston front Brembos like the the Hellcat + ceramic rotors. (Pricey but wow!)

We have a 18/19 run setup where the ACR is 19/19. If Kumho is smart they will make a 18" version of the same front tire for the rest of us.

Edit: damnit, treed by MTGTS!

V1P3R
05-08-2015, 09:10 AM
Exciting and Incredible News She'sssssssss back. 2016 Dodge Viper ACR unveiled this AM at CAAP. Enjoy.



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So what's the car that's under the cover?

ACRucrazy
05-08-2015, 09:11 AM
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New 2016 Dodge Viper ACR – Fastest Street-legal Viper Track Car Ever

May 8, 2015

One of the most iconic high-performance vehicles of the last decade is returning to uphold its legacy as the ultimate street-legal race car. Hand-built in Detroit and certified for public roads, it’s the all-new 2016 Dodge Viper ACR.

The 2016 Dodge Viper ACR is engineered to wring every last hundredth of a second out of road course lap times and combines the latest in aerodynamic, braking and tire technology to carry on the ACR’s lap-time busting reputation that has made it a legend on race tracks around the world.

“The Viper has always been more of a street-legal race car than a track-capable street car, and the new 2016 Dodge Viper ACR is the fastest street-legal Viper track car ever,” said Tim Kuniskis, President and Chief Executive Officer – Dodge Brand and SRT® Brand, FCA – North America. “Our goal is to arm our enthusiasts with the ultimate Viper track car to dominate road courses around the world.”

The SRT engineering team that developed the 2016 Dodge Viper ACR is stocked with members who race their own cars and used lessons learned from the factory-based racing Viper GTS-R that competed in the American Le Mans Series and IMSA United SportsCar Championship from 2012-2014. For the new Viper ACR, the team focused its efforts on three areas: aerodynamics, chassis and tires to maximize grip, producing never-seen-before handling capabilities and unprecedented lap times.

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The 2016 Dodge Viper ACR is designed to provide the ultimate in aerodynamic performance, and when equipped with the new Extreme Aero Package, the ACR produces the highest aerodynamic downforce of any production car. During on-track testing, SRT engineers have experienced nearly 1 ton (approximately 1,800 lbs.) of downforce at top speed of 177 mph.

The Extreme Aero Package includes a huge (1,876 mm wide) adjustable dual-element rear wing, rear carbon fiber diffuser, unique SRT hood with removable louvers, detachable extension for the front splitter and four dive planes. The Extreme Aero rear wing, specifically designed for air flow around the Viper’s body, stands taller, sits further rearward and features unique end-plates and gurney lip to produce maximum downforce while minimizing straight line drag. For comparison, the Extreme Aero package delivers more than three times the downforce produced by the Viper TA (Time Attack) 2.0 package.

The rear carbon fiber diffuser extends forward of the rear axle and includes six removable strake extensions designed to rub against the track surface for increased straight-line stability and optimized downforce. Removable hood louvers over the front tires reduce air pressure in the front wheel wells, and the detachable front splitter extension and dive planes work with the rear aero treatment to provide outstanding grip and balanced performance on the track.

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Track duty can punish the brakes, so the 2016 Dodge Viper ACR features new Brembo® Carbon Ceramic Matrix brakes that provide optimum braking performance with unprecedented brake fade resistance. Designed to provide greater handling capability with less un-sprung weight, the system uses 390-millimeter (15.4-inch) two-piece front rotors and 360-millimeter (14.2-inch) two-piece rear rotors. Six-piston Brembo calipers provide the stopping power up front, while the rear binders feature four-piston calipers.

The new Carbon Ceramic Matrix brakes provide the largest brake pad area ever offered on Viper and work in conjunction with the specially-tuned ABS and ESC to account for the extra grip provided by the increased downforce and specifically designed Kumho® tires. Detachable front brake ducts provide additional cooling to the brake calipers for optimum track performance.

Keeping the 2016 Dodge Viper glued to the road are four Kumho® Ecsta V720 high-performance tires designed specifically for the vehicle. Featuring a unique tread pattern and a unique raised ACR logo, the new tires have produce laps times that are 1.5 seconds faster than competition race tires. The low-profile front tires measure 295/25/19 and are mounted on wider 11-inch wheels, and when combined with the 355/30/19 rear tires, provide the largest combined tire patch available on any production car.

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Aluminum bodied, double-adjustable coil-over Bilstein race shocks designed specifically for the Viper ACR work in conjunction with ride height adjustment for optimal control of weight transfer and handling performance. Each shock provides independent 10-way rebound and compression adjustability, and the suspension package also provides more than three inches of ride height adjustment.

Front springs are rated at 600 lbs./in. and rear springs at 1,300 lbs./in., more than double the suspension stiffness of the Viper TA model. With unique race alignment and 1.4 degrees more negative camber than the entry SRT model, the 2016 Dodge Viper ACR is capable of sustaining more than 1.5g on high-speed turns due to the combined chassis and aerodynamic improvements.

“This car is not a 1-3 lap track special. You can run the car at the track all day, and the performance doesn’t fall off,” added Kuniskis.

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The heart of the 2016 Viper ACR is the awesome, all-aluminum 8.4-liter V-10 overhead-valve engine, rated at 645 horsepower 600 lb.-ft. of torque – the most torque of any naturally aspirated sports-car engine in the world. Unique exhaust tips have been added to the side-mounted exhaust pipes to provide reduced exhaust pressure, and all Vipers are engineered to withstand severe track duty in ambient temperatures of 100 degrees Fahrenheit. Power reaches the pavement through the standard Tremec TR6060 six-speed manual transmission.

The Viper ACR features a host of exclusive appointments to its race-inspired interior, starting with the Alcantara-wrapped instrument panel cluster hood, lower instrument panel and door armrest panels. A new, ACR-exclusive Alcantara wrapped high-grip steering wheel with color racing stripe and unique badging sets the ACR apart from other production models. New high-grip seats also carry the Alcantara inserts, while the unique dash plaque is finished in carbon fiber.

View the 2016 Dodge Viper ACR hi-res image gallery (http://www.drivesrt.com/viper-acr/gallery/)

SSGNRDZ_28
05-08-2015, 09:11 AM
Awesome. Can't wait to learn about the little details, it sounds like they've put a lot of thought into this being the ultimate track car, above and beyond what they did on the Gen IV ACR. Might have to upgrade!

timberwolf
05-08-2015, 09:11 AM
Exciting and Incredible News She'sssssssss back. 2016 Dodge Viper ACR unveiled this AM at CAAP. Enjoy.



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I really hope you guys bring this car to the Nurburgring and break some records again!!!!!!

XSnake
05-08-2015, 09:13 AM
So what's the car that's under the cover?

Nobody cares. lol

VIPEREPIV
05-08-2015, 09:15 AM
Looks sick! The ride height and front aero are definitely track ready, but look scary enough for me to have to really pick and choose my entrances and exits for gas and what not on the weekends... yikes!

XSnake
05-08-2015, 09:16 AM
“This car is not a 1-3 lap track special. You can run the car at the track all day, and the performance doesn’t fall off,” added Kuniskis.


Nice shot at the new Vette :smilielol:

ACRucrazy
05-08-2015, 09:17 AM
http://www.drivesrt.com/assets/images/2015/viper/acr-slider/large/DG016_035VP.jpg

Victxv10
05-08-2015, 09:17 AM
So what's the car that's under the cover?

Rumor is targa roadster

ACRucrazy
05-08-2015, 09:17 AM
http://www.drivesrt.com/assets/images/2015/viper/acr-slider/large/DG016_026VP.jpg

viper04
05-08-2015, 09:18 AM
Nice! looks good. Just wondering if the weight of the wheels are lighter than the the sidewinder 2? Anyone know?

ACRucrazy
05-08-2015, 09:18 AM
http://www.drivesrt.com/assets/images/2015/viper/acr-slider/large/DG016_041VP.jpg

BlknBlu
05-08-2015, 09:19 AM
Between the new Aero, Tires, brakes and increased HP over the GEN IV expect a big increase in track times. I would guess around 4 seconds in a sub 2 minute track. Huge leap forward again for Dodge.

Beautiful car.

Bruce

slowhatch
05-08-2015, 09:20 AM
First post updated with HI-RES PICS!

VIPEREPIV
05-08-2015, 09:20 AM
Looks sick! The ride height and front aero are definitely track ready, but look scary enough for me to have to really pick and choose my entrances and exits for gas and what not on the weekends... yikes!

Just read the part about the detachable front splitter extension... Sweet!

ACRucrazy
05-08-2015, 09:21 AM
http://www.drivesrt.com/assets/images/2015/viper/acr-slider/large/DG016_063VP.jpg

smhog
05-08-2015, 09:21 AM
The Chrysler release says the ACR is available in the GTC 1 of 1! That's awesome.

I hope this one lives up to the hype and expectations.

Victxv10
05-08-2015, 09:22 AM
http://www.drivesrt.com/assets/images/2015/viper/acr-slider/large/DG016_035VP.jpg

Nice they included all the external carbon fiber items which you would have thought they would have done to all the T/A's. Ha..even has black gas cap!!

Loud
05-08-2015, 09:23 AM
That is freaking awesome. Can't wait to hear the track results.

ACRucrazy
05-08-2015, 09:24 AM
Ughh. For the first time I really want a Gen V.

ViperTony
05-08-2015, 09:24 AM
Dat ass is stellar!

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XSnake
05-08-2015, 09:26 AM
Ughh. For the first time I really want a Gen V.

Same

swexlin
05-08-2015, 09:26 AM
Those are some BIG ASS brake rotors. I have a friend with a GT3, and I think they're similar or the same.

MBG2.0
05-08-2015, 09:26 AM
As I read, I weep ...my retirement fund just toke a major hit with this news.
On a brighter note...now there are a whole lot of parts that be transferred to the lesser cars like me bucket Ta 2.0

v10enomous
05-08-2015, 09:26 AM
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slowhatch
05-08-2015, 09:28 AM
WHERE ARE THE LAP TIMES?!! :)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-K1r7miGOakw/Uo-mC4krz1I/AAAAAAAAFfA/Gz6CNK9hge0/s1600/tumblr_mdxg6sNpyU1rq0hnm.gif

swexlin
05-08-2015, 09:31 AM
Wonder if some of these items (brakes, 85-way suspension, etc) will be able to be spec'd on non-ACR cars? I'm guessing probably.

bogdan
05-08-2015, 09:31 AM
“This car is not a 1-3 lap track special. You can run the car at the track all day, and the performance doesn’t fall off,” added Kuniskis.

Is that aimed at the Z06 camp? Shots fired! :smilielol:

edit: beat to it by MTGTS

ACRucrazy
05-08-2015, 09:31 AM
When do we start taking guesses of price?

MtnBiker
05-08-2015, 09:33 AM
Ughh. For the first time I really want a Gen V.

^^^^^^^This!!^^^^^^

Holy shit batman!

swexlin
05-08-2015, 09:35 AM
I know NOW what FCA will be highlighting at Carlisle in July...last year it was the Hellcat. This year: the ACR! Yes!

Dusty1
05-08-2015, 09:35 AM
Wow can you imagine the amount of folks that buy these that will want to upgrade the horsepower? MMMM, I know three dealerships that are likely to be busy.

Richard

bluesrt
05-08-2015, 09:36 AM
and just in time for my 15k voucher:fpopcorn:

MBG2.0
05-08-2015, 09:36 AM
140k?

serpent
05-08-2015, 09:38 AM
Return of the ring king!!

hova00
05-08-2015, 09:39 AM
looks good!! now where do I order a set of those wheels from?

V1P3R
05-08-2015, 09:40 AM
and just in time for my 15k voucher:fpopcorn:

I hear the sound of paper. 15k vouchers to be more specific.

ViperJon
05-08-2015, 09:43 AM
I just don't understand the marketing. Three weeks ago is one of the biggest venues in the world for auto manufacturers to show their latest wares.
Free HUGE press. The buzz would have been monumental, right up there with the FGT. Then introduced by a press release and pictures on the Internet.

XSnake
05-08-2015, 09:45 AM
I just don't understand the marketing. Three weeks ago is one of the biggest venues in the world for auto manufacturers to show their latest wares.
Free HUGE press. The buzz would have been monumental, right up there with the FGT. Then introduced by a press release and pictures on the Internet.

Agreed!

Utahviper
05-08-2015, 09:46 AM
Any rumors about price or better yet, anything official on price? Carbon ceramic option $15k?

My guess on base price of acr $119,995. Fully optioned $150k

V1P3R
05-08-2015, 09:47 AM
Agree, as well. Doesn't make a lot of sense.

FLATOUT
05-08-2015, 09:48 AM
Wow can you imagine the amount of folks that buy these that will want to upgrade the horsepower? MMMM, I know three dealerships that are likely to be busy.

Richard

Agree and really nice track power and suspension upgrades ;) I can't wait for us to get our hands on one at ViperExchange. What a Machine!

ACR Steve
05-08-2015, 09:51 AM
More then 4 seconds on a 2min lap time I can guarantee (tires brakes and aero are huge)

Rapidrezults
05-08-2015, 09:52 AM
Deposit placed. Can't wait!

Dman
05-08-2015, 09:52 AM
Wow, just went thru the info.

3" height adjustment, CC brakes, 2,000 lbs of down force, and they're doing it in the 1 of 1, so you can get it however you want it. Now I get it, they were waiting til they could do it right. This thing is going to be the WMD of perf cars.

Victxv10
05-08-2015, 10:05 AM
Any rumors about price or better yet, anything official on price? Carbon ceramic option $15k?

My guess on base price of acr $119,995. Fully optioned $150k

I don't think there will be any options except paint color. $145K as you see it pictured.

SlateEd
05-08-2015, 10:09 AM
More then 4 seconds on a 2min lap time I can guarantee (tires brakes and aero are huge)

Steve I can't wait to see what you can do with one of these!!

That's a beautiful car and exciting to see it back!

GBS
05-08-2015, 10:10 AM
Impressive!

rw99
05-08-2015, 10:11 AM
Kumho enters the ring; maybe we can all enjoy a little collateral benefit?

Gen IV ACR prices dropping, minute by minute. There's A LOT to love about the new version...

V10LEE
05-08-2015, 10:14 AM
Cant wait to put down my deposit!

ViperJon
05-08-2015, 10:16 AM
Deposit placed. Can't wait!

Do you expect them to run out?

PatrickB
05-08-2015, 10:18 AM
Question - where will I live when I sell the house to buy this?

Answer - does it matter, look at that beauty!

:D

VoodooRob
05-08-2015, 10:21 AM
Ughh. For the first time I really want a Gen V.

Copy that

ACRucrazy
05-08-2015, 10:23 AM
Kumho enters the ring; maybe we can all enjoy a little collateral benefit?

Gen IV ACR prices dropping, minute by minute. There's A LOT to love about the new version...

I don't know, if there is a 50-70k+ price difference between current Gen IV ACR prices and the Gen V ACR, I don't see them being affected like that. Maybe even solidify their current price.

TrackAire
05-08-2015, 10:23 AM
Holy shit, what a fantastic Friday.

I think they may have been smart not to put it in the same auto show with the new Ford GT.....It would have just gotten passed over by the automotive press (90% of them don't get it anyway).

The ACR program has always been much more grassroots.....build it and they will come. Look what's happened just on this one website in the last hour....deposits are getting ready to be put down.

Never "had" to have a Gen 5 but today is going to be a very long "financial restructuring" day, lol. Just when I thought I knew what direction my car buying desires were going.

Good job Tim K and Sergio. I've always had a feeling Sergio has a beef with GM and likes to stick it to them.

Rapidrezults
05-08-2015, 10:24 AM
Do you expect them to run out?

Lol. I've been scratching my head wondering the same thing...If anything maybe I'll get one of the first, which might not be a good thing. Either way, the excitement is back!

VIPEREPIV
05-08-2015, 10:27 AM
They even scored by finishing the gas door in black.

TooBlue
05-08-2015, 10:34 AM
Question - where will I live when I sell the house to buy this?

Answer - does it matter, look at that beauty!

:D


10580....

smhog
05-08-2015, 10:40 AM
Good job Tim K and Sergio. I've always had a feeling Sergio has a beef with GM and likes to stick it to them.


Does anyone get the feeling that while Tim and Sergio are doing great things with the car Ralph probably was pushing hard for the ACR and was instrumental in it being here today?

V1P3R
05-08-2015, 10:46 AM
I may have skimmed over it, but what is the reduction of weight?

v10enomous
05-08-2015, 10:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVc9JfyXu48

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v9xM7nF8H0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1qx_6gV9VU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYe157RvAbQ

Nine Ball
05-08-2015, 10:51 AM
Those of you that are bitching about how this was released seem to fail to remember that the white ACR was actually first unveiled last November, at the SEMA show in Las Vegas. The cars you see here are just production cars. The car was already unveiled previously.

Then again, I think some of you just like to bitch and complain about something. :furious:

mjorgensen
05-08-2015, 11:05 AM
Kumho tires, very interesting

Awesome news, the Kumhos have always been a very predictable tire, they were probably one of the few that would make a stiff enough sidewall to support 2K of down force ;-)

V1P3R
05-08-2015, 11:07 AM
about 10 seconds into the rolling footage, I was waiting for a SNL digital short song to start playing!

mjorgensen
05-08-2015, 11:11 AM
Wow can you imagine the amount of folks that buy these that will want to upgrade the horsepower? MMMM, I know three dealerships that are likely to be busy.

Richard


LOL the line started 2 cars ago here just off my FB and it's only been an hour! Hey Arrow, you better order some more cams!

This thing with 745hp and 2000# of down force? everyone should get an IMSA license LOL.

BlknBlu
05-08-2015, 11:11 AM
has the vents above the front tires and dual dive planes.

Incredible

Dodge: The Benchmark of Performance

Bruce

mjorgensen
05-08-2015, 11:12 AM
Wow, just went thru the info.

3" height adjustment, CC brakes, 2,000 lbs of down force, and they're doing it in the 1 of 1, so you can get it however you want it. Now I get it, they were waiting til they could do it right. This thing is going to be the WMD of perf cars.


"Woodhouse Motorsports Division" WMD that's right ;-)

smhog
05-08-2015, 11:17 AM
Awesome news, the Kumhos have always been a very predictable tire, they were probably one of the few that would make a stiff enough sidewall to support 2K of down force ;-)

The "ACR" logo on the tire itself is a nice touch.

roadrunner
05-08-2015, 11:19 AM
Lots of "little" touches... did you see the subtle flags on the door trims?
10581

ViperPete
05-08-2015, 11:20 AM
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/207/484/1322277979335.jpg

v10enomous
05-08-2015, 11:21 AM
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/njvipermail/randy_zpsdpk43qyt.jpg

ACRucrazy
05-08-2015, 11:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=72&v=5v9xM7nF8H0

This video is awesome..

J TNT
05-08-2015, 11:26 AM
I hope they have it on display at CEMA !!! :)

Steve M
05-08-2015, 11:27 AM
I'd have never guessed that Kumho would be the tire supplier for this variant...I'd be curious to know what went on behind the scenes when making this decision. I just heard so many people say "Trofeo" all day long...guess not this time. Not that it matters...I'm sure the tires will do the job just fine.

Oh, and in before someone starts bitching about no flappy paddles (unless I missed it already).

canadian viper
05-08-2015, 11:31 AM
I may have skimmed over it, but what is the reduction of weight?

reduction of weight................ in your wallet

V1P3R
05-08-2015, 11:34 AM
lol, I don't track, but I wouldn't think that I would carry my wallet while driving on the track!! So, I guess technically correct. :D

Dusty1
05-08-2015, 11:37 AM
Wow, someone better get to work designing the safety components for this model, Cage, fuel cell and fire suppression. You make a mistake in this one its gonna hurt!

Richard

XSnake
05-08-2015, 11:39 AM
I'd have never guessed that Kumho would be the tire supplier for this variant...I'd be curious to know what went on behind the scenes when making this decision. I just heard so many people say "Trofeo" all day long...guess not this time. Not that it matters...I'm sure the tires will do the job just fine.

Oh, and in before someone starts bitching about no flappy paddles (unless I missed it already).

I'm guessing they didn't want to make the Trefeo R's in the sizes needed

Thawk97
05-08-2015, 11:42 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/autos/s/2016-dodge-viper-acr-fastest-meanest-snake-ever-152947413.html

Looks like "some" weight reduction - at least to compensate:

"The Viper sports a pared-down three-speaker stereo and lightened carpet, though you can spec-up a number of options with Dodge’s ‘1 of 1’ customization program.

Production is slated to begin later this year on the 2016 model, though pricing and production numbers haven’t been released."

RoyV101621
05-08-2015, 11:51 AM
Rumor is targa roadster

That's the ticket !

Simms
05-08-2015, 12:04 PM
That car is awesome!!!!

ViperJon
05-08-2015, 12:35 PM
Would this ACR with the specs as known now be likely to be as fast as an ACR-X?

shine
05-08-2015, 12:36 PM
Gonna need a bigger car hauler to fit that enormous rear wing inside!

TheStig
05-08-2015, 12:38 PM
Probably faster!! I'm so excited I can't contain myself!!

genVer
05-08-2015, 12:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=72&v=5v9xM7nF8H0

This video is awesome..

My heart is still racing from watching that. Wow, I really want one of these...

VENOM V
05-08-2015, 12:39 PM
Man, this is bitter sweet! This is pretty much exactly what I was hoping it would be- a bull's eye for the hardcore track rat.

I just started racing competitively so my money has been spent - bought a trailer, a truck, and of course the race car. Now I can't afford to buy this ACR, YET...

ViperSmith
05-08-2015, 12:46 PM
yum.

Now how many that have been complaining there is no ACR have a deposit down?

Snakebit10
05-08-2015, 01:00 PM
WOW that was quick. Car looks absolutely sick. Loving the rear diffuser, CCB's, suspension etc...Really can't wait for the numbers on any track but especially the Ring, VIR and Laguna. Cant wait to see it in black with just the blood red stripe a la Gen IV ACR color scheme.

Eachey51
05-08-2015, 01:06 PM
Z06 what? Nismo who?

XSnake
05-08-2015, 01:08 PM
Would this ACR with the specs as known now be likely to be as fast as an ACR-X?

Tire is it's limiting factor

- - - Updated - - -


yum.

Now how many that have been complaining there is no ACR have a deposit down?

0 because orders aren't open yet

v10enomous
05-08-2015, 01:29 PM
The bar is high these days...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fnTZKvX5jg&feature=youtu.be

Loud
05-08-2015, 01:31 PM
yum.

Now how many that have been complaining there is no ACR have a deposit down?

So everyone that has been *looking forward* to the ACR [I wouldn't say complaining] has to put a deposit down in under 24 hours? Give it a freaking break.

ViperDC
05-08-2015, 01:32 PM
Wow, just went thru the info.

3" height adjustment, CC brakes, 2,000 lbs of down force, and they're doing it in the 1 of 1, so you can get it however you want it. Now I get it, they were waiting til they could do it right. This thing is going to be the WMD of perf cars.

Indeed. This thing is a game changer.

V10LEE
05-08-2015, 01:43 PM
Man, this is bitter sweet! This is pretty much exactly what I was hoping it would be- a bull's eye for the hardcore track rat.

I just started racing competitively so my money has been spent - bought a trailer, a truck, and of course the race car. Now I can't afford to buy this ACR, YET...

Paul N. is hard to get a hold of bro..

VENOM V
05-08-2015, 01:56 PM
Paul N. is hard to get a hold of bro..

Hey Lee, I just texted Paul. Hopefully you will hear from him soon.

V10LEE
05-08-2015, 01:57 PM
Hey Lee, I just texted Paul. Hopefully you will hear from him soon.

Thank you bro! It's good to see you..

VENOM V
05-08-2015, 02:05 PM
Thank you bro! It's good to see you..

You too man, I haven't been around the forums lately. So busy with racing. But this ACR will keep me lurking at very least. And druelling, lol

serpent
05-08-2015, 02:07 PM
The bar is high these days...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fnTZKvX5jg&feature=youtu.be
Million+ dollar cars.
this car is not even a 1/4 of a million, hell it's below 200k.

I wonder how this will compare to the up coming Ford GT.

Track Pack
05-08-2015, 02:20 PM
Dodge may have just broken the internet!!! (take that Kim Kardashian...)

V10LEE
05-08-2015, 02:21 PM
You too man, I haven't been around the forums lately. So busy with racing. But this ACR will keep me lurking at very least. And druelling, lol

Yes that's what I meant ,haven't seen you on the forum. Paul called me so thank you for contacting him for me. Good luck, and have fun with the racing bro..

Laidout
05-08-2015, 02:23 PM
What a beautifully mean beast! Robbing a bank suddenly sounds justifiable for the pleasure of owning one of these track slayers.

Zybane
05-08-2015, 02:31 PM
Wow, amazing machine. Save the P1/LaFerrari/918 crowd, this thing will wreck everything else.

What do you guys think we are talking. $120K? $130K? $140K?

XSnake
05-08-2015, 02:36 PM
The bar is high these days...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fnTZKvX5jg&feature=youtu.be

Buddy just got a P1 this week and I went out for a ride. They aren't cars, they are like spaceships. Holy hell they are amazing machines. Good luck finding one for less than 1.75m though.

Side note, P1 only producers 1323lbs of downforce

BlknBlu
05-08-2015, 02:37 PM
Would have to guess right in there somewhere between the 120k and 140k range, especially with those brakes and suspension. Also 1 of 1 will add some cost.

Bruce

fastmd
05-08-2015, 02:43 PM
Finally excited about getting another viper to add to my existing ACR. Now, I need to figure out if they can give me some money back for a warranty I will never use, because of the lack of "official" dealer support in NJ.

XSTAR
05-08-2015, 02:58 PM
Looks like a proper ACR...nothing subtle about it :)

Aspirations57
05-08-2015, 03:10 PM
Nice going Dodge!! Between the TAs and the ACRs Vipers will be kicking butt at a bunch of tracks.Long Live the Viper!

Thawk97
05-08-2015, 03:20 PM
Buddy just got a P1 this week and I went out for a ride. They aren't cars, they are like spaceships. Holy hell they are amazing machines. Good luck finding one for less than 1.75m though.

Side note, P1 only producers 1323lbs of downforce

Yeah - I wonder. Those cars are sick. Curious if they take the ACR to Germany how close it can get to the 6:58 time. You'd think with more downforce it may be possible to approach 7:00

Rizzo
05-08-2015, 03:28 PM
Am I the only one that thinks the vents on the top of the front fenders look like some cheasy ricer add on? I dont like the look of those at all. They just dont blend in with the hood and the shape of the car. Other than that the car looks awesome. Wish they bumped the HP just to make it stand out more from the regular Viper but it will still kick ass on every track it gets to. Looking forward to seeing one in person.

ACRucrazy
05-08-2015, 03:36 PM
Am I the only one that thinks the vents on the top of the front fenders look like some cheasy ricer add on? I dont like the look of those at all. They just dont blend in with the hood and the shape of the car. Other than that the car looks awesome. Wish they bumped the HP just to make it stand out more from the regular Viper but it will still kick ass on every track it gets to. Looking forward to seeing one in person.

Yea those vents are the one bit that stick out to me. I think its just the rectangle shape of them that sticks out with the smooth curves of everything else on the car.

VENOM V
05-08-2015, 04:05 PM
Agreed, not a fan of the look of those vents, I wish that they could be sculpted like the other hood vents in the middle of the hood. But they are functional, and if they help it kick ass at tracks all over the world, then I am all for them!

XSnake
05-08-2015, 04:09 PM
Yeah - I wonder. Those cars are sick. Curious if they take the ACR to Germany how close it can get to the 6:58 time. You'd think with more downforce it may be possible to approach 7:00

So much at the Ring is dependent on weather and driver. The track is so long that its basically impossible to get a perfect lap there unless your name is Sabine.

pdv25
05-08-2015, 04:24 PM
Not sure I've seen this picture here? Interior looks awesome!!!

http://i807.photobucket.com/albums/yy353/pdv1976/int_zpsrdmqexl2.png

ViperSmith
05-08-2015, 04:26 PM
All of it should be alcantara, love for it to be an option in standard cars.

wonder where pricing will come in, i'd guess $120 starting?

08viperviolet
05-08-2015, 04:31 PM
Looks great. I think it will come in closer to 150k with the brakes and aero.

1.8t
05-08-2015, 04:37 PM
I hope they sell that alcantara steering wheel as a part so the rest of us can buy it. Looks great.

Price wise, I am saying $135-140k

Canadian venom
05-08-2015, 04:44 PM
Lots of cool pics (64) in this link ;)

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/news/g6289/2016-dodge-viper-acr-the-official-photos/

Snakebit10
05-08-2015, 04:49 PM
Looks like it has the checkered flag motif on the doors from the Sema car...Noice...

ACRX was around 3200lbs and the same HP rating. So not sure if the G5 ACR will be faster than it if the only weight savings are lighter carpet and 3 speaker stereo. Cant wait for the full numbers.

ViperSmith
05-08-2015, 05:08 PM
I'd be curious where the ACR could wiggle its way into on Laguna Seca with the 918 and P1. 918 has a 4 second lead on the TA's run - that is a lot to make up. We know what the TA ran with slicks, so it has its work cut out for it.

I am more interested in what it can do at LS than the 'Ring, but thats just me :) - mainly because i don't think it can come close to the hypercars at the 'Ring, but I think it can at LS.

ACRucrazy
05-08-2015, 05:11 PM
SRT = $84,995
TA 2.0 = $101,995
GTS = $107,995 + options
Gen IV ACR package ~ $14,000 for reference

Gen V ACR package
-Brakes
-Aero
-Suspension
-Wheels
-Tires
-Less stereo
-Less carpet
-Manual seats
-Alcantara and stitching
-Paint schemes? (delete /solid was an option previously)

My total Gen V ACR package guess option cost $25-$30k vs the $17k for the TA2.0

I am going to take a low low price wild guess Gen V ACR price $119,995 give or take + gas guzzler & paint options to turn the automotive world on it's head. As a $150k Viper will do exactly what the Gen V did in 2013.

http://iruntheinternet.com/lulzdump/images/business-man-on-fire-suit-handshake-interview-14133124690.gif?id=270

I Bin Therbefor
05-08-2015, 05:37 PM
How does Dodge turn the ACR into increased sales of all Gen Vs, and attract the non-traditional buyer?
Or more important - How will MT manage to get the Z06 to beat the ACR? :jerry:

VENOM V
05-08-2015, 05:49 PM
Or more important - How will MT manage to get the Z06 to beat the ACR? :jerry:

Haha! Sad but true, the media whores will try to create controversey and conflict. This time though, Dodge needs to be on their game and send properly prepped ACRs to the press.

darbgnik
05-08-2015, 05:53 PM
Wow, amazing machine. Save the P1/LaFerrari/918 crowd, this thing will wreck everything else.

What do you guys think we are talking. $120K? $130K? $140K?

I think the LaFerrari and 918 may have been the 3 lap wonders they hinted at in the video, that's about all the hybrid part helps with.... don't think they're Z07 hunting with this one.


Am I the only one that thinks the vents on the top of the front fenders look like some cheasy ricer add on? I dont like the look of those at all. They just dont blend in with the hood and the shape of the car. Other than that the car looks awesome. Wish they bumped the HP just to make it stand out more from the regular Viper but it will still kick ass on every track it gets to. Looking forward to seeing one in person.

You are right about the ricer look. The problem with this, is that this actual functional racing trick is what the ricers copy, on their 190HP Civics etc.....

Kinda sucks that when the average Joe sees the honest to goodness racecar for the street, that looks the part, their first comparison is towards an economy car with a ridiculous body kit mimicking a race car.....

Now if we could just get everyone to leave the racing tech and look to actual racing cars, and off of economy cars, we'd all get over it. lol

daytonprowler
05-08-2015, 05:53 PM
NVE2 New Orleans - May 2016...... 1 of 1 ACR........ Door prize? ;)

http://www.drivesrt.com/assets/images/2015/viper/acr-slider/large/DG016_044VP.jpg

MBG2.0
05-08-2015, 05:56 PM
The aero alone i think would be worth 2 seconds at Seca...brakes a little bit also...Don't forget the sticky gumball tires...You can't count on weight savings mentioned for much of a gain in performance....maybe they will help more with offseting the weight from the larger wing etc etc
Should be a beast by the time your add all the upgrades up...
Z06....who? HEHE
Lucky i live 2 hours from Seca and run that track often enough...i'll get to see one no doubt.

Schen
05-08-2015, 06:01 PM
I touched it. :)

--RS

V10powerr
05-08-2015, 06:03 PM
Love the look though the wing at angles looks way too big -
Price 140-150
Brakes alone add a lot, wheels tires, the extra aero and wing should be an additional 10k
Compared to at costs
Brakes 10k
Aero and wing 10k
Interior extra 5
Tires and wheels 4k
Suspension 8k
Hood 3k

About 40k without considering other things thEy make have done
If the ta is 100-110
It would put this at 140-50

Happy for dodge and track racers
I still think that they should have tried to squeeze 55 more hp to get it to 700 to further increase the wow factor as well as the difference in power bw a regular gen v
Just my thoughts
Not meant to offend anyone about the last part

Schen
05-08-2015, 06:11 PM
Oh it'll wow you. It. Will. Wow. The s#!t out of you.

In case your wondering this particular car has already seen track time. Tires were broken in. I overheard Russ say he put 30 laps alone in the thing. They love this car. The wing is VERY functional. Supposedly there's more downforce on the ends rather than the middle to keep the rear planted. The white SEMA car was there too with the historics. There's two flavor of ACR, base and hardcore, with the base having a shorter wing height and stripe design.

--RS

ViperSmith
05-08-2015, 06:17 PM
Love the look though the wing at angles looks way too big -
Price 140-150
Brakes alone add a lot, wheels tires, the extra aero and wing should be an additional 10k
Compared to at costs
Brakes 10k
Aero and wing 10k
Interior extra 5
Tires and wheels 4k
Suspension 8k
Hood 3k

About 40k without considering other things thEy make have done
If the ta is 100-110
It would put this at 140-50

Happy for dodge and track racers
I still think that they should have tried to squeeze 55 more hp to get it to 700 to further increase the wow factor as well as the difference in power bw a regular gen v
Just my thoughts
Not meant to offend anyone about the last part

The TA Is a package on top of the $86,000 base car, there aren't $54,000 in additions to get to $140,000.

VENOM V
05-08-2015, 06:23 PM
NVE2 New Orleans - May 2016...... 1 of 1 ACR........ Door prize? ;)

http://www.drivesrt.com/assets/images/2015/viper/acr-slider/large/DG016_044VP.jpg

Yes yes yes!!!

ACRucrazy
05-08-2015, 06:23 PM
And if you're adding costs for new tires, wheels, brakes, suspension, etc, you're subtracting the cost of the stock parts they are replacing.

I Bin Therbefor
05-08-2015, 06:25 PM
Haha! Sad but true, the media whores will try to create controversey and conflict. This time though, Dodge needs to be on their game and send properly prepped ACRs to the press.

Maybe that's why Dodge isn't releasing cars until after Dodge has tested at a series of tracks? They sure aren't letting any media into the car until after that. If the money was in the pot, it would be nice if a certain track in Germany was on that list of tracks. Maybe a certain outfit in Texas could provide some $s?

The ACR will likely make the cover of most of the mags. It's already on a lot of the car sites.

We need ACR at the regional car shows, for sure those that are dealer sponsored. And some of the major cruises. And all the Tudor series paddocks.

Get the ACR out where the non traditional buyer is. He/she won't buy the ACR but there maybe a good halo effect.

fastmd
05-08-2015, 06:28 PM
Deposit placed. Now need to figure out a color scheme.

v10enomous
05-08-2015, 06:29 PM
Making the brakes optional would keep the car more affordable for someone that wants something that still goes and stops better than a TA but gives you the wild aero and center band paint schemes at a decent price.

Murpowa
05-08-2015, 06:30 PM
Well damn! This is getting exciting!

I Bin Therbefor
05-08-2015, 06:36 PM
There's two flavor of ACR, base and hardcore, with the base having a shorter wing height and stripe design.

--RS

Thanks for this bit. Where is all the info listed? I though I read it all, but I sure missed this! :confused:

ViperJon
05-08-2015, 06:44 PM
There's two flavor of ACR, base and hardcore, with the base having a shorter wing height and stripe design.
--RS

What does that mean......about the stripe design?
There are two different stripe designs for base and hardcore?

v10enomous
05-08-2015, 06:44 PM
A guy I know has an Z07 A8 convertible on order with every conceivable option except for a couple of silly things like luggage and the MSRP is about $114k.

99RT10
05-08-2015, 07:08 PM
What a beautiful car! Dodge hit an off the wall triple with this one. Home run would be this car with 700HP. :D


Just nitpicking guys, love it. Awesome machine. :drive:

XSnake
05-08-2015, 07:08 PM
Thanks for this bit. Where is all the info listed? I though I read it all, but I sure missed this! :confused:

Basically, its a difference in stanchion height for the rear wing.

ddominator1
05-08-2015, 07:10 PM
....and i just ordered my TA!! :(

ddominator1
05-08-2015, 07:14 PM
So,basically if I put stripes and add a huge ass wing om back of my TA. Yank stereo. I have an,acr?

Zybane
05-08-2015, 07:19 PM
Hah the bad-assn'ess of this ACR is taking a little steam out of my TA 2.0 delivery. But, you still have to consider the TA 2.0 is probably more comfortable on the street and probably around $20 grand cheaper. I just hate not having the best of the best. :)

Dang I love those ACR racing stripes, kinda sucks TA's only come solid color...

504voodoo
05-08-2015, 07:22 PM
I believe that brembo brake setup alone is around $32,000.

Schen
05-08-2015, 07:23 PM
What does that mean......about the stripe design?
There are two different stripe designs for base and hardcore?

Check your phone. Just sent pics. :)

--RS

ACRucrazy
05-08-2015, 07:27 PM
I believe that brembo brake setup alone is around $32,000.

And Dodge sold 0 ACRs lol

99RT10
05-08-2015, 07:30 PM
So,basically if I put stripes and add a huge ass wing om back of my TA. Yank stereo. I have an,acr?

The brakes alone are a $12-14K upgrade, so no.

99RT10
05-08-2015, 07:31 PM
I believe that brembo brake setup alone is around $32,000.

Probably half that. maybe less.

504voodoo
05-08-2015, 07:33 PM
Probably half that. maybe less.

When I priced them they were $15,000 and change for the front and about the same for the rear.

venum4u
05-08-2015, 07:34 PM
Dodge just put all performance car makers on notice.

RAY W
05-08-2015, 07:38 PM
Car looks great. As others have said, not a fan of the fender vents. As for pricing Dodge should be really careful. Some may pay 140-150K but all optioned up at 120K will move more cars. Price it no more than the T/A 2.0 price plus 20K.

Everyone that is really interested should post the maximum price you would pay. That is better information than what price Dodge wants to get.

Me personally my max price is 115K. Probably not realistic but that's my number. Now what's yours?

ps. At 750 factory hp I would go 130K.

ViperSmith
05-08-2015, 07:39 PM
When I priced them they were $15,000 and change for the front and about the same for the rear.

The brakes aren't going to be a $32,000 checkbox. It'll be in line with other cars in its price category.

99RT10
05-08-2015, 07:45 PM
The brakes aren't going to be a $32,000 checkbox. It'll be in line with other cars in its price category.

Correct, when buying one off sets, yes they will be pricey. Now on a production car, still expensive but my guess, half or less. If I remember right, you can get the full carbon fiber brakes for the Corvette thru Chevy for about $12K? :confused:

VIPEREPIV
05-08-2015, 07:56 PM
So,basically if I put stripes and add a huge ass wing om back of my TA. Yank stereo. I have an,acr?

Not quite, my friend... The ACR's suspension and brake kit are also upgrades over our 2.0's, however, I'd really like to see or hear about some 2.0 lap times or a comparison to the ACR. Just remember, there will be a big price diff, and just for starters the ACR's stripe package alone is probably $4-5k.

As for the 2.0's wing, just wait to you see it in person... it's biGGer than you realize!

ViperSmith
05-08-2015, 07:59 PM
Correct, when buying one off sets, yes they will be pricey. Now on a production car, still expensive but my guess, half or less. If I remember right, you can get the full carbon fiber brakes for th eCorvette thry Chevy for about $12K? :confused:

I fully expect people to be buying them for their 2013-2015's too. I think $12,000 will be the price.

Corvette boys are already comparing how better of MPG they get than this.

commandomatt
05-08-2015, 08:18 PM
I am in !!

Nothing about this car that I don't like, including the fender vents. The wing is enormous and therefore perfect !! Parts are not there to necessarily blend together but there for functionality...and that's exactly what this model needs.

The one thing I am curious about is how many they will make for the 2016 model year. I am sure there will be a total limit

Also wondering if there will be certain ACR only paint schemes in limited numbers (not 1 of 1's). I would like that idea as anyone can build a 1 of 1 but if they only made say 10 of the combo of the car that was just shown, that would lend a different kind of exclusivity to that specific combo.

....and you 2.0 guys need to face the fact that you now have the designer or softer 'bad' Viper, so no more whining :t0135:

v10enomous
05-08-2015, 08:19 PM
Not to take anything away from this obviously phenomenal car but you can still own the fastest straight line stock Viper for relative cheap.

Junkie
05-08-2015, 08:22 PM
I love everything about it!

fastmd
05-08-2015, 08:23 PM
Don't think the carbon brakes will be more than $4-6K as an option. They won't charge more than Porsche for them.

XSnake
05-08-2015, 08:25 PM
Corvette boys are already comparing how better of MPG they get than this.

and that's why they own corvettes

Space Truckin
05-08-2015, 08:35 PM
Absolute AWESOMENESS!!! All in, thinking $120k-140ish, don't think they can/ will make the same mistake as with the launch/ pricing of the Gen V....JM2C :drive: :United_States:

MBG2.0
05-08-2015, 08:53 PM
As for the 2.0's wing, just wait to you see it in person... it's biGGer than you realize!
Or you can do your own thing...I'm gonna put some ACR end plates on mine,....

Mazak
05-08-2015, 09:12 PM
So what's the car that's under the cover?

The Gen VI viper ...................;)

That thing will look really good in Stryker Green .:cool:

Orange TA
05-08-2015, 09:15 PM
If anyone here wants to sell their orange TA to get an ACR, please inbox me. ;)

Rapidrezults
05-08-2015, 09:30 PM
If anyone here wants to sell their orange TA to get an ACR, please inbox me. ;)

I have a feeling a lot of TA 1.0's about to hit the market.

viper_eddie
05-08-2015, 09:38 PM
Looking forward to a review of all 3 on the same track with the same driver and same day: TA, TA 2.0 and ACR...

And I have to go into overdrive with my plans for an orange TA now...

v10enomous
05-08-2015, 09:49 PM
Makes you wonder about the price impact on Gen4 ACR's. The TA and TA 2.0 and new ACR are all just different degrees of the same car but the Gen4 ACR will always be the very best analog track car ever.

Coloviper
05-08-2015, 10:00 PM
To send a message to the idiots of MT, I really hope they do NOT even give them a car. Screw that rag! They don't have anyone that can handle it, and I am referring to that puss puppet Randy!

Laidout
05-09-2015, 12:51 AM
To send a message to the idiots of MT, I really hope they do NOT even give them a car. Screw that rag! They don't have anyone that can handle it, and I am referring to that puss puppet Randy!

Although I think Randy is a great driver and person, he just doesn't seem to understand or appreciate the Viper. So I agreee with the above post.

Aspirations57
05-09-2015, 01:14 AM
Makes you wonder about the price impact on Gen4 ACR's. The TA and TA 2.0 and new ACR are all just different degrees of the same car but the Gen4 ACR will always be the very best analog track car ever.

I guess you can look at the Gen 5 ACR as the highest level of track weapon Viper for the truly dedicated track rat. I just wonder how many will see the track?

ViperJon
05-09-2015, 06:14 AM
I have a feeling a lot of TA 1.0's about to hit the market.

Dunno about that.
IMO The TA's are the perfect combination of street/track car. Fast as **** from a roll, very track capable as well.
Certainly better than 99% of the drivers. The new ACR will be hampered on the street with the huge wing and aero and consequently greatly reduced top speed. Not a car for street racing obviously.

Canadian venom
05-09-2015, 06:59 AM
Now is the perfect time for Dodge to make up for the past mistakes and offer the ACR first to current Viper owners, like they used to do. Who's better at selling a Viper than someone who truly appreciate it?

SilveRT8
05-09-2015, 07:43 AM
Now is the perfect time for Dodge to make up for the past mistakes and offer the ACR first to current Viper owners, like they used to do. Who's better at selling a Viper than someone who truly appreciate it?

You will need to add a third door to that Viper garage P.A. !!

Rapidrezults
05-09-2015, 07:56 AM
Dunno about that.
IMO The TA's are the perfect combination of street/track car. Fast as **** from a roll, very track capable as well.
Certainly better than 99% of the drivers. The new ACR will be hampered on the street with the huge wing and aero and consequently greatly reduced top speed. Not a car for street racing obviously.


I wholeheartedly agree, and it kills me to have to let my TA 1.0 go at some point. It's the perfect mix of everything....and I am still not a big fan of the wing, but something just pulls me to want the best of the best for the track. When the TA 1.0 was out, I feel a lot of track rats bought because at the time, it was the best offering the Viper had. We see a lot of TA 2.0's being sold now (wing), how many 2015's have you seen posted on the forums with the 1.0 package? I bet they haven't sold many. Point is, people buy with emotion, and if they like to track, or even fantasize about one day tracking...they inevetiably want the best available option for this purpose. I think the percentage of buyers who have the ability to rationalize how much better a smaller aero wing is for street/drag racing is very small. Plus, you can unbolt the ACR wing if your heart desires.

I know of at LEAST five TA 1.0's that will be traded for ACRs, and considering our pool of potential buyers..that alone is considered a 'flood' of the market. Lol.

XSnake
05-09-2015, 07:58 AM
Now is the perfect time for Dodge to make up for the past mistakes and offer the ACR first to current Viper owners, like they used to do. Who's better at selling a Viper than someone who truly appreciate it?

Deposit lines are already long at the reputable dealership vendors on this site.

Canadian venom
05-09-2015, 08:09 AM
You will need to add a third door to that Viper garage P.A. !!

Motivation for longer work days ;)

Are you coming this afternoon?

Bill Pemberton
05-09-2015, 08:23 AM
There will definitely be some folks moving their TAs, but with the somewhat limited number I think it will be a reasonable number , not a flood. We have some guys trading theirs in , but we have a lot more conventional Vipers being traded in to us. Crazy part to me is virtually everyone wants Mark J. to take it even further -- we have some very serious gearheads and track rats interested in this ultimate track beast.

I would hope we have someone like Farnbacher or Wittmer test the car , or even let Justin Bell get in a car he still knows and loves well. Pobst is obviously a good racer , but I think he has an affinity towards Porsches, Volvos, and after 15 of us brutally beat the crap out of a 2014 SRT at Motorsports Park Hastings at last year's Viper Rendezvous , and we never had a single bit of brake fade I wonder if he is just not aware of the brake feel in a Snake? I know when I have out braked a gaggle of Porsches at local tracks the comment is always dumbfounded how I do it. I tell folks I run the same brake system as on the standard Viper and drivers always figure my system was updated after all the wacky press has been out about the brakes. I still remember when the legendary Paul Mumford won the first World Challenge Race at Laguna Seca ( coincidentally the track Randy said the Snake had issues ) right before his untimely death, his main comment to me was, " Bill, I can't believe this car, it is just like at Road America ( his first race where he placed third ) , I am outbraking all the Porsches!" Long time ago, but we essentially are still running the same system -- which was reported in 2003 to be the first car to legitimately go from 60-0 in under 100 ft.

ViperJon
05-09-2015, 08:27 AM
I know of at LEAST five TA 1.0's that will be traded for ACRs, and considering our pool of potential buyers..that alone is considered a 'flood' of the market. Lol.

Good points but we'll see. Talk is cheap and everybody is ultra excited now but when the time comes to plunk down the coin...and in this case substantial coin....
If half the people who said they were getting a Gen V when it was introduced actually bought one sales wouldn't have been so dismal.
Then with the price cuts a 75-80K new Gen V was overpriced..lol...

ViperSmith
05-09-2015, 08:36 AM
I'd be curious how many drop their TA 2.0 orders like hot potatoes now and wait vs how many are lining up to sell their TA's and TA 2.0's.

MBG2.0
05-09-2015, 08:51 AM
I'd be curious how many drop their TA 2.0 orders like hot potatoes now and wait vs how many are lining up to sell their TA's and TA 2.0's.
Final cost of the car and wait time until it arrives in people's hands.?
I myself am new to the Viper world, and bought a 2.0, and am still happy I got my car vrs a ACR.
The limits of a TA are soooo high I think and there are enough upgrades around for 2.0s that I'll track my car..mod it a little and then after sometime consider the ACR if the 2.0 don't cut it.
Havin a TA right now is like having a porsche GT3 when then GT3rs gets released..

ViperSmith
05-09-2015, 08:58 AM
Final cost of the car and wait time until it arrives in people's hands.?
I myself am new to the Viper world, and bought a 2.0, and am still happy I got my car vrs a ACR.
The limits of a TA are soooo high I think and there are enough upgrades around for 2.0s that I'll track my car..mod it a little and then after sometime consider the ACR if the 2.0 don't cut it.
Havin a TA right now is like having a porsche GT3 when then GT3rs gets released..

Oh agree completely with you :)

v10enomous
05-09-2015, 10:10 AM
Let's face it... There is no substitute for the hide the women and children bad ass menacing look of an ACR and you guys all know it... lol

Nine Ball
05-09-2015, 10:44 AM
I will not be trading my TA for an ACR. I will figure out how to own both. I like the TA too much, it would just become my 1000+ hp toy.

pdv25
05-09-2015, 11:21 AM
I will not be trading my TA for an ACR. I will figure out how to own both. I like the TA too much, it would just become my 1000+ hp toy.

As much as I love the looks of the ACR I won't be letting go of my TA either. The ACR won't be good for what I need. (Highway rolls). I would love to own both but I need a winning lottery ticket for that to happen.

ViperJon
05-09-2015, 11:28 AM
I'd like to meet the TA owner who is so skilled he has outgrown the limitations of it and "needs" a new ACR....:)
He'd be a professional driver on a racing team. Owning this car is about owning the best and baddest Viper ever created.
And that's a good enough reason regardless of what you use it for.

Camfab
05-09-2015, 11:29 AM
Z-0 what. My god this beast must have the guys at GM quiet. This...... Is a Viper. No disrespect to the other Gen V's but this is one bad mofo and it's clearly not going to need any excuses....

SA Heat
05-09-2015, 11:43 AM
I'm too lazy to research....have they announced a price yet or is there a good guess how much it will be?

Late Apex
05-09-2015, 01:06 PM
Factory catch can I hope so owners dont have to deal with it.

ACRucrazy
05-09-2015, 01:13 PM
Factory catch can I hope so owners dont have to deal with it.

:t1236:

darbgnik
05-09-2015, 01:59 PM
I have a feeling a lot of TA 1.0's about to hit the market.

I don't think too many will go that way. The TA 1.0s are a perfect blend of all around performance. I'm not sure 1.0 owners are into the ACR level of commitment....... I mean, there's no button to press to adjust the suspension???? lol

Maybe a few of the 2.0 owners who were looking for the closest ACR, without being one, might be brought to the dark side?

I Bin Therbefor
05-09-2015, 02:04 PM
I wonder how far you can go with cosmetics? Could you order the aero package on what is essentially a "street" Viper. No suspension, brake, tire, or etc. changes. Why? For the boulevard cruiser buyer.

There are more of them than weekend racers.

VENOM V
05-09-2015, 02:36 PM
I'd like to meet the TA owner who is so skilled he has outgrown the limitations of it and "needs" a new ACR....:)
He'd be a professional driver on a racing team. Owning this car is about owning the best and baddest Viper ever created.
And that's a good enough reason regardless of what you use it for.

There are plenty of advanced drivers at the track days around here that could take advantage of the improvement. But I do agree that one doesn't need that for a justification. Carpe diem. Life's short, enjoy it

commandomatt
05-09-2015, 02:47 PM
Owning this car is about owning the best and baddest Viper ever created.
And that's a good enough reason regardless of what you use it for.

Quote of the thread right there !!

commandomatt
05-09-2015, 02:52 PM
I wonder how far you can go with cosmetics? Could you order the aero package on what is essentially a "street" Viper. No suspension, brake, tire, or etc. changes. Why? For the boulevard cruiser buyer.

There are more of them than weekend racers.

I sure hope not. SRT designed this as a package to work and perform together. Allowing people to piece their own wannabe ACR together would not be a good move, maybe even dangerous at speeds

kdaviper
05-09-2015, 03:23 PM
I sure hope not. SRT designed this as a package to work and perform together. Allowing people to piece their own wannabe ACR together would not be a good move, maybe even dangerous at speeds

Yeah imagine what 2000 lbs of downforce would do to a car with stock suspension...

Zybane
05-09-2015, 04:02 PM
I'm not going to lie. For someone who is about to take delivery of TA 2.0 I would go with the ACR in it's place. But I don't have an extra 20-30K lying around either. Plus the extra wait would suck I've been waiting for my 2.0 for four months. In the Viper world, having the second best track car isn't all that bad!

v10enomous
05-09-2015, 04:10 PM
Did anyone ever run the Ring in the TA or TA2 yet ?

TrackAire
05-09-2015, 04:19 PM
There are plenty of advanced drivers at the track days around here that could take advantage of the improvement. But I do agree that one doesn't need that for a justification. Carpe diem. Life's short, enjoy it

My shrink says I need to focus on staying grounded.....what better way than with 2000 lbs of downforce keeping me in check??

SilveRT8
05-09-2015, 04:21 PM
Ultimate Viper for track rats, but my Voucher will patiently wait for the upcoming Supercharged Viper !

Stealth
05-09-2015, 04:31 PM
awesome that Dodge is making this car!!!!! This will surely represent Viper as a halo beast on the track
this car is not for me as 95 percent of all of my time will be on the street but I love it! the existence of this car will make driving my 2014 bumblebee gts with aero --or any Viper--that much sweeter! I cannot wait for some track records to fall :))) as for the hybrid supercars let's let them take more than two laps...

YES!!! It feels like when the gen 4 Viper ACR had a 7:12 lap at Nurburgring!

MBG2.0
05-09-2015, 05:56 PM
There are plenty of advanced drivers at the track days around here that could take advantage of the improvement. But I do agree that one doesn't need that for a justification. Carpe diem. Life's short, enjoy it
Agreed..a few fast laps at Seca or Sonoma would leave a normal stock vipers Brakes and Tires hurting...I have many times tapped out factory track cars,...GTRs M3s Porsches 15 z28 etc etc... So, ACR to the rescue,..
But as has been said....a person doesn't need a race license and track record intensions to buy one.

Awesome job SRT

NSviper
05-09-2015, 07:25 PM
But it has no fog lights? Ha! Ha! Seriously, that is a great mean looking machine. Awesome news!
Ha mine will............. Canadian

steve911
05-09-2015, 08:45 PM
I also have been trying to put my arms around a price for the new car.

The bilsteins could be priced like a set of Penske's currently are. Nothing earth shattering on the coil overs. Spring rates are comparable to what the Comp Coupe drivers use.

The carbon brake rotors are already priced and available. Here is an example: Rotor, right front - $4106.00 ea. part number 68252788AA.
Suspension parts also a bit pricey: Knuckle, right rear - $3106.00 part number 68253068AA

There is also a different part number assigned to the transmission too.

We all know that Chryslers carbon parts are priced sky high for what ever reason. I believe that is the big unknown. I can't imagine what the splitter and rear diffuser are worth :eek:

VENOM V
05-09-2015, 09:32 PM
My shrink says I need to focus on staying grounded.....what better way than with 2000 lbs of downforce keeping me in check??

George, just do it!!! I can live vicariously through you, lol

I Bin Therbefor
05-09-2015, 09:42 PM
I sure hope not. SRT designed this as a package to work and perform together. Allowing people to piece their own wannabe ACR together would not be a good move, maybe even dangerous at speeds

Check thread "What ACR parts are you gonna put in your gen v?" The fun begins.

Victxv10
05-09-2015, 10:26 PM
If this is the first one built, why is it numbered 206 on the dash plate?

SilveRT8
05-09-2015, 10:42 PM
If this is the first one built, why is it numbered 206 on the dash plate?

The plate reads Z06 !!LOL

Vprbite
05-10-2015, 02:14 AM
You can offset the cost of the New ACR by renting out some of the space on the rear wing, or subdivide it and build some duplexes.

I swear my freshman dorm room was smaller than that new wing. Holy schmoleys that thing is intense!

Simms
05-10-2015, 07:54 AM
Does anyone know if the car that was revealed is a standard ACR, or an ACR with a bunch of options (all the interior CF etc).

slowhatch
05-10-2015, 10:34 AM
Here is photo from Maurice L. of the differences between the TA, TA 2.0, 2016 ACR, and 2016 ACR Extreme Package wings.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff78/alexkorovin01/11036489_833875913363479_7514623537379256706_o_zps snpxrskb.jpg (http://s240.photobucket.com/user/alexkorovin01/media/11036489_833875913363479_7514623537379256706_o_zps snpxrskb.jpg.html)

vipertank
05-10-2015, 10:38 AM
Long Live Viper!

Simms
05-10-2015, 10:52 AM
Here is photo from Maurice L. of the differences between the TA, TA 2.0, 2016 ACR, and 2016 ACR Extreme Package wings.

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff78/alexkorovin01/11036489_833875913363479_7514623537379256706_o_zps snpxrskb.jpg (http://s240.photobucket.com/user/alexkorovin01/media/11036489_833875913363479_7514623537379256706_o_zps snpxrskb.jpg.html)

So what's the difference between ACR and ACR extreme?

99RT10
05-10-2015, 10:56 AM
So what's the difference between ACR and ACR extreme?

Height of the rear wing?

Crotalidae
05-10-2015, 11:07 AM
Some of the above pics of the ACR are missing the diffuser...

ACRucrazy
05-10-2015, 11:17 AM
Height of the rear wing?

Rear wing stanchions higher and end plates are bigger on the extreme from what I can tell.

Can't tell if brakes are different. I would have to guess the front splitter extension and/or 2nd set of front canards on the bumper may only be on the extreme?

Martin
05-10-2015, 11:18 AM
They might have needed to get the car into the shop and had to remove the diffuser for ramp clearance.

ViperJon
05-10-2015, 11:40 AM
Different wing, different stantions, no CCB single set of dive planes and a different style drivers stripe. Not sure about diffuser. Probably more. The poor mans version lol. Which kind of scares me what the extreme is going to be priced at.