My nitrous Gen5 progress

[Junkie]

Well as most of you know as soon as I got it I did a nice first round of mods which was

-American Racing headers
-American Racing full 3" exhaust, with no cats
-smooth tube intake tubes
-K&N drop in filter
-Underdrive pulley
-tune
-spring caps, lowering

These results fucking rocked! Car made 59x/56x on motor and pump gas without getting aggressive with it at all. Well now I've grown a little tired of that so we started on the nitrous install and its turned out awesome so far! Dyno time scheduled for this coming Friday, hopefully weather clears Thursday and I'll actually be able to drive it there. DFW has been getting hammered for weeks now. New parts include.

-Nitrous Outlet dual plate system
-Nitrous Outlet dedicated fuel system, to supply the nitrous
-NOS launcher nitrous control, with touch screen
-CCW 18" wheels on all 4 corners, Nitto NT05 front tires and MT 345/35/18 rears.

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We've got it jetted at 200-ish, if all goes well it should be a blast! Bought all the parts from Lydia at American Body works in Lewisville Tx, John at Anything Automotive has done all the work on the car and James Karger from Calibrated by Karger tunes it. I've been VERY happy with this camp so far, pretty excited for this weekend! Sorry I don't have any numbers yet, I know the Viper community is use to estimates with little to no results. But I'll be posting up what happens on the dyno regardless of good or bad!

[KB Viper]

exciting stuff, I'm subscribed

[FLATOUT]

I love it Will that's a fantastic package they put together for you. I can't wait to see how it goes.

[bluesrt]

with the forged pistons, that's all one needs for a little pickerupper!!!!!!!!!!!! ya man, good going, that's me all the way, simple horsepower (use wisely) please

[Y'orange_UAE]

Junkie

I would appreciate if tell us from where you got Intake Tubes.

Thanks

[FrgMstr]

Looking very good Will, cannot wait to see it run. Let me know when you get it out on the street around here. :)

[pdv25]

Nicely done Will!! Looking forward to the results. Best of luck bro!

[FSTENUF]

I was just going to post asking if anyone has a nos set up on there gen v. Very nice please post results

[Ninjakris]

You have done the exact same mods as I have planned. Can you post a couple more pictures of the dedicated fuel cell? That was the only unknown I was facing when piecing the nitrous together. I was also thinking a 150/200 shot. The car should take that all day.

Do you haw a purge on it? Where are you spraying it? I was thinking in purging through the vents in the hood, but wasn't sure about routing the line with the hood opening the way it does.

thank you for sharing your build with us.

[Junkie]

Junkie

I would appreciate if tell us from where you got Intake Tubes.

Thanks

JonB at Partsrack. Got them without issue, he's the man.


Looking very good Will, cannot wait to see it run. Let me know when you get it out on the street around here. :)

Will do, hopefully the clutch lives a bit. Need to get a BBG triple soon


You have done the exact same mods as I have planned. Can you post a couple more pictures of the dedicated fuel cell? That was the only unknown I was facing when piecing the nitrous together. I was also thinking a 150/200 shot. The car should take that all day.

Do you haw a purge on it? Where are you spraying it? I was thinking in purging through the vents in the hood, but wasn't sure about routing the line with the hood opening the way it does.

thank you for sharing your build with us.

Purge is routed through the wiper cowl. The first pic is actually a video on photo bucket of it. Nitrous outlet built the standalone for it, which they can replicate for a Gen5, goes really great in the front passenger side of the bumper.

[Steve M]

Love the clean install...can't wait to see the final numbers.

[ViperDC]

Looks like its going to be a badass car!!

[Murpowa]

Awesome - can't wait to see what this thing runs

[viper04]

Nice thanks for sharing. just wondering if the stock fuel system can support a hundred fifty shot?

[Crotalidae]

Very nice...looking forward to some numbers...

[Steve M]

Nice thanks for sharing. just wondering if the stock fuel system can support a hundred fifty shot?

It might, and then again, it might not. In this case, it doesn't matter because he is running a standalone fuel cell (you can see it in pics 4 & 6).

[Utahviper]

Great looking install! It will be interesting to see if "torque management" issues arise like they did in the gen4's.

[viper04]

It might, and then again, it might not. In this case, it doesn't matter because he is running a standalone fuel cell (you can see it in pics 4 & 6).

Steve M
thanks for the reply I can see it in the picture. I'm more curious as to if the Gen V had enough pump to support the additional horsepower. Thanks

[HANKFAN]

Great looking install. Looking forward to the results.

[Nine Ball]

You clutch will disagree with your mods list. Ha!

[Junkie]

Nice thanks for sharing. just wondering if the stock fuel system can support a hundred fifty shot?

No clue, have no intentions of spraying without a standalone.


You clutch will disagree with your mods list. Ha!

Hoping it lives from a roll, if not I'll have to find a solution ASAP

[flyinmedic]

Very nice as always Will...Looking forward to see it hurt some feelings

[Jack B]

That is about as clean as possible, given the lack of realestate.

Are you using a pressure transducer for bottle pressure. They work far better than thermostats.

[Junkie]

Normal heater with all the safety shit removed. I hate that stuff, if I want the bottle at 1200+ then so be it lol

[threesixes]

Clean install. Thanks for sharing. I can't wait to see how it does!

[Jack B]

It is not about safety, it is about consistent a/f


Normal heater with all the safety shit removed. I hate that stuff, if I want the bottle at 1200+ then so be it lol

[Darius]

Bad ass man, Hope it goes well.

[FLATOUT]

It is not about safety, it is about consistent a/f

Jack, Will knows more about huge HP builds (TT, N20, Supercharged, Single Turbo) than you or I, I would bet. He's been around a long time with multiple XXXXhp builds if he wants it setup that way it's probably for a good reason.

[Nine Ball]

Will is definitely a nitrous "Junkie". Higher bottle pressure does lean A/F ratio a tiny bit, but talking decimal points. Not usually a big deal since most recommended jet combos are conservatively rich. The 1100-1200 bottle makes them run better :)

[Jack B]

Not trying to take away from a fantastic looking setup. Just passing on info, the pressure transducer can be set at any pressure. Hard to believe, but, there is knowledge outside of Texas.

The difference fronm1000 to 1200 psi is over a 1/2 point, I have dozens of logs from my G1 and G2 that show just that in the 1/4 mile. That is based on both a 200 and 350 shot.


Will is definitely a nitrous "Junkie". Higher bottle pressure does lean A/F ratio a tiny bit, but talking decimal points. Not usually a big deal since most recommended jet combos are conservatively rich. The 1100-1200 bottle makes them run better :)

[FLATOUT]

Jack no body said your info was wrong, but that Will "Junkie" knows this already (what added Bottle pressure does to AF) and is choosing on his own to run his setup the way he wants.


Not trying to take away from a fantastic looking setup. Just passing on info, the pressure transducer can be set at any pressure. Hard to believe, but, there is knowledge outside of Texas.

The difference fronm1000 to 1200 psi is over a 1/2 point, I have dozens of logs from my G1 and G2 that show just that in the 1/4 mile. That is based on both a 200 and 350 shot.

[FrgMstr]

Will has his ducks together on this, but I am sure we will get video of it winning or blowing up at Runway Rivalry! ;)

[Jack B]

Got it - just having some fun with the TX audience



Jack no body said your info was wrong, but that Will "Junkie" knows this already (what added Bottle pressure does to AF) and is choosing on his own to run his setup the way he wants.

[FLATOUT]

Got it - just having some fun with the TX audience

I just got a text and the numbers in the text were quite nice :D

[pdv25]

I just got a text and the numbers in the text were quite nice :D

HA!!! you aint so special lol... I got a text also. :p

[FLATOUT]

HA!!! you aint so special lol... I got a text also. :p

Damn it Will HAHA :D

[hova00]

lets see these #'s.

set up looks real nice and iam sure it will taking names soon enough

[1evilviper]

I wanna hear numbers!!!

[FLATOUT]

I wanna hear numbers!!!

Will/Junkies to give out, we'll have to be patient :)

[pdv25]

I wanna hear numbers!!!

Here you go Tony. XX5/XX3. Sorry bro some numbers don't work on this computer. :p

[1evilviper]

Here you go Tony. XX5/XX3. Sorry bro some numbers don't work on this computer. :p

haha im jonsin!

[Nine Ball]

This car is going to hurt a LOT of feelings...

[1evilviper]

im interested in running a similar set up, I had 100 shot in my c6z and it was great....I cant imagine a 200 shot in my viper!

[FLATOUT]

This car is going to hurt a LOT of feelings...

Agree this will surprise a lot of people if we can get it to work consistently.

[Jack B]

From a roll in 2nd gear, not much will keep up.


Agree this will surprise a lot of people if we can get it to work consistently.

[FLATOUT]

From a roll in 2nd gear, not much will keep up.

In Houston I'd still be the slowest in our group:( would need double that just to be mid pack 1500+

[Brian E]

Nice setup Will. You're going to surprise more than a few people. Not many will suspect a Gen 5 on the bottle.

[Junkie]

Here you go Tony. XX5/XX3. Sorry bro some numbers don't work on this computer. :p

+rep, that shit was hilarious!


im interested in running a similar set up, I had 100 shot in my c6z and it was great....I cant imagine a 200 shot in my viper!

It will get jetted up soon :)


In Houston I'd still be the slowest in our group:( would need double that just to be mid pack 1500+

Agreed, F that shit I have the Supra for that.


Guys, this car fucking rocks! 93 in the tank, C16 in the cell. We made 615whp on motor with the hood closed, pulled some timing and the car still makes over 600whp on a nitrous tune up :)

900-950psi in the bottle and the car put down 804/815, then James cleaned it up a bit and it put down 805/833. I'm fucking impressed, 800+whp on the flip of a switch, in a car that drives like its bone stock. Hard to beat that imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqDaTe3u2fI

I didn't grab a print out, mainly because I don't really care about dyno numbers lol. But I'll probably get one soon, or re dyno on 250+ jets once I put a clutch/tires in the car.

Big thanks to John @ anything automotive. I wish I could show you guys how clean every detail of this nitrous install is! Dave @ Nitrous Outlet, just like everything else he sends me, it works great and looks even better. James @ Calibrated by Karger, tune up took less than 5 total hits with both motor and spray, bad ass!

https://www.facebook.com/anythingautomotivetexas
https://www.facebook.com/CalByKarger

[Simms]

That's awesome!

[Rapidrezults]

Freakin' sick! So impressive... It takes some balls to throw a 200shot down on a brand new TA. Well thought out install. Congrats!

[1.8t]

Awesome nunbers!

[Junkie]

Freakin' sick! So impressive... It takes some balls to throw a 200shot down on a brand new TA. Well thought out install. Congrats!

Its really not a lot of spray imo. 500+ci forged motor, I bet it'll be fine!

[1evilviper]

Impressive, that thing has to be a rocket!

[Mamba52]

Yum yum I want I want!!!!! This sounds just right for me.

[XSTAR]

Awesome, can't wait to see some vids from a roll!

[threesixes]

Bad Ass!! No torque management/limp mode issues?

[viper04]

Nice! how did the stock clutch seem to hold up at that HP/Torque numbers?

[flyinmedic]

Congrats Will but I'm not surprised. LOL

[Nine Ball]

Its really not a lot of spray imo. 500+ci forged motor, I bet it'll be fine!

People tend to forget that a 200 shot on a Viper is only 20 hp per cylinder. Baby shot. I wouldn't get greedy though, haha.

[Satin69]

Man that is impressive! Congrats!

[Y'orange_UAE]

Congrats! Clean Nitrous setup

[Murpowa]

I may or may not have seen a YouTube clip of said Viper laying it down on the dyno

Sick progress Junkie :dude3:

[Revolution]

So has the car done WOT pulls through the gears I thought people were having issues with the car going into limp mode after shifting on the bottle? Wicked numbers man!!!

[Darius]

People tend to forget that a 200 shot on a Viper is only 20 hp per cylinder. Baby shot. I wouldn't get greedy though, haha.

500 shot!!

[jvm728]

Gah that makes me want to do this setup on my gen 4. I'm here in DFW too junkie

[Junkie]

Gah that makes me want to do this setup on my gen 4. I'm here in DFW too junkie

I feel like HPT is the way to go with nitrous vs Mopar ECU. We pulled some timing for my nitrous combo

[Ninjakris]

Are you going to be spraying in first?

[Junkie]

Are you going to be spraying in first?

Fuck yes

[Ninjakris]

Fuck yes

Best reply ever

[SilveRT8]

Fuck yes

Could you do it next to a C7 Vette at a stoplight ?

[FLATOUT]

I feel like HPT is the way to go with nitrous vs Mopar ECU. We pulled some timing for my nitrous combo

Exactly why I still think it's the way to go.

[Steve M]

Exactly why I still think it's the way to go.

I still think so too, but man there are a lot of whiners on here that just don't seem to realize that HPT is nothing more than a tool...the end results depend on the user's skillz.

I'm curious to see if any more of the PCM can be opened up...probably not a huge priority right now given all of the other Dodge/Mopar support they are working on.

[EdwardETraylorIII]

Great job! Car runs strong!

What else do you need opened up?


I'm curious to see if any more of the PCM can be opened up...probably not a huge priority right now given all of the other Dodge/Mopar support they are working on.

[FLATOUT]

A lot of people ran Torries tune and it turned a bunch of people off to the software. I had mine retuned and am MORE than happy with the results and the fact that if I want to spray mine I can make adjustments.




I still think so too, but man there are a lot of whiners on here that just don't seem to realize that HPT is nothing more than a tool...the end results depend on the user's skillz.

I'm curious to see if any more of the PCM can be opened up...probably not a huge priority right now given all of the other Dodge/Mopar support they are working on.

[cashcorn]

After the retune, what were your gains and where?

[FLATOUT]

After the retune, what were your gains and where?

From 3800-4800 I gained 60rwhp and 58ftlbs of torque, peak through the middle. On Torries Tune I saw roughly 30rwhp and 30ftlbs of torque through the same area.

Also the car was going into limp mode so we put all of the throttle tables back to stock and I haven't had the problem sense. I know that he (Torrie) now does that though on his tunes, there is a learning curve with all of this and it's by no means Torries fault we are all figuring it out together.

[cashcorn]

Good for you! I'm roughly the same with peak at 600h & 575tq. I to had the the limp mode code as well. Todd at A&C solved by doing the same. Glad everything is working for all!

[FrgMstr]

From 3800-4800 I gained 60rwhp and 58ftlbs of torque, peak through the middle.

Who did this tune Andy?

[Junkie]

Just put an entire bottle through the car, feels great and zero issues. Dead hooks everything at 60, hazed the tires but stayed manageable from 40 in 1st. No codes, no limp mode, car drives like stock!

[FLATOUT]

Who did this tune Andy?

Joe Honeycutt at KP Racing, guy has been tuning my cars since way back in the MTI days. Good tuner, also Tunes Nineballs cars.


Just put an entire bottle through the car, feels great and zero issues. Dead hooks everything at 60, hazed the tires but stayed manageable from 40 in 1st. No codes, no limp mode, car drives like stock!

Dude this totally made my day. Awesome news can't wait to see vids of the draggings.

[FrgMstr]

Just put an entire bottle through the car, feels great and zero issues. Dead hooks everything at 60, hazed the tires but stayed manageable from 40 in 1st. No codes, no limp mode, car drives like stock!

Congrats Will! I want to be like you when I grow up.

[1evilviper]

What tank did you use Will?? I see dave has one for the older vipers and also afew universal kits...

[slovenom]

Now go out and put a hurting on someone :)
Make sure you video it

[Junkie]

What tank did you use Will?? I see dave has one for the older vipers and also afew universal kits...

He built a custom one for Gen5's, it isn't listed yet. We built a cardboard one and he turned it out for us.

[slovenom]

Now go out and put a hurting on someone :)
Make sure you video it

[Junkie]

I'm never concerned with video, Gopros don't really go on my car often. I'd rather not get caught doing a felony crime, with proof on the car….

[Ripper]

Awesome!! Great job

[SammutRacing]

I'm never concerned with video, Gopros don't really go on my car often. I'd rather not get caught doing a felony crime, with proof on the car….


so true..

sick job, 800 whp is no joke. should hurt some feeling..

[Junkie]

Factory clutch + 345/35/18 MT drag radials + sticky track + 850tq = burnt the fuck up factory clutch lol! Didn't even get one pass and it smoked, worked great from a roll but dead stop stuff it got real fucked real fast.

I'm hoping I can get my hands on the BBG clutch I bought very soon, we'll see. If not there is a local place (Powerhouse Racing) that says I can get one of theirs soon.

[viper04]

Thanks for the update, was wondering how the stock clutch would hold up with that much hp.

[EdwardETraylorIII]

The OEM clutch doesn't last long at levels above 750 RWHP with a sticky tire. I'm amazed you got as much life out of it as you did.

You will LOVE your BBG clutch!!!

[Nine Ball]

The stock clutch can barely hold the factory stock engine power, on drag radials. My tires had more traction than the clutch did, on every pass.

[Ripper]

Factory clutch + 345/35/18 MT drag radials + sticky track + 850tq = burnt the fuck up factory clutch lol! Didn't even get one pass and it smoked, worked great from a roll but dead stop stuff it got real fucked real fast.

I'm hoping I can get my hands on the BBG clutch I bought very soon, we'll see. If not there is a local place (Powerhouse Racing) that says I can get one of theirs soon.



How well did the CCW's fit the car?

[Junkie]

CCW's fit great! I guess I could post some pics. I love them!

[FLATOUT]

CCW's fit great! I guess I could post some pics. I love them!

Your old ones fit perfect on my Gen V as well. Love that wheel.

[Ripper]

CCW's fit great! I guess I could post some pics. I love them!

Excellent !

Yes , please post some when you can.


BBG has some awesome clutches. Hope you go this route.. I think you will be really happy. Love the one in my Gen III.

[Mamba52]

Any updates on this. Junkie I just finished up doing a half mile event and love your set up. I need to put a hurt on some C7 Z06's hell even the C7 is trapping 167 MPH. My best run was 149.9 MPH.

[Junkie]

Excellent !

Yes , please post some when you can.

BBG has some awesome clutches. Hope you go this route.. I think you will be really happy. Love the one in my Gen III.

I have a BBG triple in my garage with BBG hydraulics and everything with very low miles. 500-600 if anybody wants it. Its a good clutch but just too race car for my liking. My car is back on a factory twin disc from JonB at Partsrack!


Any updates on this. Junkie I just finished up doing a half mile event and love your set up. I need to put a hurt on some C7 Z06's hell even the C7 is trapping 167 MPH. My best run was 149.9 MPH.

I didn't realize I hadn't updated this thread. Here are some pics of the car on CCW's.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o2/slobra01/Viper/C7BC126F-87A4-444A-90B7-11047ADEFE35_zpssjihnuhw.jpg (http://s116.photobucket.com/user/slobra01/media/Viper/C7BC126F-87A4-444A-90B7-11047ADEFE35_zpssjihnuhw.jpg.html)

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o2/slobra01/Viper/viper%20RR2_zps31wfpamn.jpg (http://s116.photobucket.com/user/slobra01/media/Viper/viper%20RR2_zps31wfpamn.jpg.html)

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o2/slobra01/Viper/viper%20RR2.1_zpszpdssufq.jpg (http://s116.photobucket.com/user/slobra01/media/Viper/viper%20RR2.1_zpszpdssufq.jpg.html)

Here is an updated thread on some racing event progress on the car.

http://driveviper.com/forums/threads/8612-My-Viper-TA-at-Dallas-Racings-Runway-Rivalry

The car has gotten jetted back down, I've been daily driving it since the event actually. Its on a 250 shot and 93 octane now, also going to a 335/30/18 Hoosier drag radial this week to test out. Should help balance out the change to 3.07's

[FLATOUT]

Awesome, I love that you have owned so many different fast cars and you are having so much fun with this one.

[Jack B]

That last pic is one the best posted on this site