Vca died?

[Jack B]

What has happened to the VCA G5 forum? As of 5 PM, not one new thread today.

[ViperSmith]

It doesn't get much traffic

[FrgMstr]

Vee See what?

[viper04]

What has happened to the VCA G5 forum? As of 5 PM, not one new thread today.
LOL!! your funny..

[LATAMUD]

It won't be down for breakfast.

[City]

Well, they maintain 72 public forum areas plus 2 private member forums (and several other private secret society forums).
1 area hasn't had a post since 2011.
1 area hasn't had a post since 2012.
18 areas haven't had a post since 2013. So that's already 28% of the forum that's essentially a corpse.

Alternatively, there are 11 areas that have some activity over a weeks time. That's 15% of the forum that lives.

Other than for the (rather obviously) false appearance of global domination, I can't for the life of me understand why they don't take a trim.

[TrackAire]

The sad part is who is actually visiting the forums......

"There are currently 746 users online. (52 members and 694 guests)"

Going to be hard to keep the place going when 93% of the visitors are not paying to be hanging around.

[ViperTony]

What has happened to the VCA G5 forum? As of 5 PM, not one new thread today.

Never thought I'd see the day where there's more useful Viper talk on the Alley, of all places, vs. the other site.

[plumcrazy]

its over johnny

[FLATOUT]

Funny how that happens when you lifetime ban many of your biggest tech guys.

Fuck'em.

[AZTVR]

The sad part is who is actually visiting the forums......

"There are currently 746 users online. (52 members and 694 guests)"

Going to be hard to keep the place going when 93% of the visitors are not paying to be hanging around.

Even sadder that the VCA site gets more traffic than the VOA site, though.

VOA: "There are currently 460 users online. 212 members and 248 guests"

As long as it attracts more users, it will probably stay open; depending on how they manage their funds. It appears that even VOA members like the OP are still actively visiting there for information.

[ViperSmith]

Even sadder that the VCA site gets more traffic than the VOA site, though.

VOA: "There are currently 460 users online. 212 members and 248 guests"

As long as it attracts more users, it will probably stay open; depending on how they manage their funds. It appears that even VOA members like the OP are still actively visiting there for information.

The Gen V section has literally nothing of value. Other Gens still have a lot of info in them.

[PatrickB]

They'd have no new posts at all if the same 7-8 members that post in every thread suddenly disappeared..

[Granger73]

[B]"There are currently 746 users online. (52 members and 694 guests)"[/.
If you check the user names of the (in this case) 52 shown, very few are actually members.

[Leslie]

What is the VCA?

[99RT10]

What is the VCA?

Very Confused A$$wipes.

[Victxv10]

Or, the "2016 ACR a go" thread......5 posts???????

[mblgjr]

Its bad over there.

[Bruce H.]

There were just too many trolls and disrespectful postings, and very little left to read as my Ignore List grew longer and longer. Pretty sad, and we need to be sure we don't tolerate that nonsense here.

[Snakebit10]

Or, the "2016 ACR a go" thread......5 posts???????

I was just about to post that. I could not believe it only had 5 posts on one of the biggest news stories about the G5. I guess the "morgue" name fits it more now.

[Fatboy 18]

Please, do we really have to keep commenting on another Club, this does no one any good and if anything will turn prospective owners from joining this club and forums.

[XSnake]

The sad part is who is actually visiting the forums......

"There are currently 746 users online. (52 members and 694 guests)"

Going to be hard to keep the place going when 93% of the visitors are not paying to be hanging around.

Those #'s aren't entirely accurate as you can set a starting value other than 0.

[Dman]

I wish a reconciliation or merging could have been done or something. I was one of the guys bouncing back & forth, but due to the info being richer here and the trolls poisoning without control there, I ended up here and generally don't surf back over there muchl, and using this online resource I felt it only right to join to support it.

When spring comes, and events start, we'll see what happens, I know the local guys in the VCA and like them very, very much, all the junk that happened was at an altitude way above us.

They are doing a car raffle presently, Hellcat or value against a new gen5, so that's something. I haven't re-joined, but receive all the emails and guys are staying in touch via email & text too, which is nice. I just don't think about it right now, I hope the wounds that did exist are healing with everyone, we all seem to be focused on the cars now, which is great.

[Sam Goldfarb]

Please, do we really have to keep commenting on another Club, this does no one any good and if anything will turn prospective owners from joining this club and forums.

What he said!

[Dman]

I'll say this, they do have the first post of an installed Venom PCM and road testing, I just went over to see the forum ... of course there's an immediate troll post or two on the thread, but in case anyone's interested in a first write-up, nothing remarkable, no dyno yet.

[BlknBlu]

One day we will be a happy family again, but it will take time.

Bruce

[TrackAire]

Those #'s aren't entirely accurate as you can set a starting value other than 0.

Can you clarify what that means for non computer website traffic experts? About 18 months ago I posted that the current user online numbers at the VCA were always very high.....it didn't matter if it was a Sunday night at 3 am or Wednesday afternoon at 1:00 pm, the numbers always were in the 1500's or more. It just seemed strange to me that those numbers never seemed to fluctuate.

Then magically they came down to under 1000 users on line for most of the time.....do you think those numbers were or are being manipulated?

[slowhatch]

Funny how that happens when you lifetime ban many of your biggest tech guys.

Fuck'em.

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[ViperSmith]

Can you clarify what that means for non computer website traffic experts? About 18 months ago I posted that the current user online numbers at the VCA were always very high.....it didn't matter if it was a Sunday night at 3 am or Wednesday afternoon at 1:00 pm, the numbers always were in the 1500's or more. It just seemed strange to me that those numbers never seemed to fluctuate.

Then magically they came down to under 1000 users on line for most of the time.....do you think those numbers were or are being manipulated?

It means you can say "there are 29 actual people online + XYZ what we say there are", where the admin can set XYZ to be whatever you want.

[GBS]

Please, do we really have to keep commenting on another Club, this does no one any good and if anything will turn prospective owners from joining this club and forums.

I agree 100% Who cares what the VCA is doing. VOA just needs to focus on making itself the best it can be.

[City]

There's a difference here between discussing the VCA website (or any topic for that matter) and disparaging the VCA. There's no need to deliberately avert our attention from another Viper club. The VCA, like it or not, is still an "entity" among Viper owners. Why should we avoid discussion of the VCA (or in this case their website) as long as it remains rational and informative. As far as I'm concerned, we should neither avoid or chase after VCA topics. If they come up, so be it. But let's not feel some obligation to stick our heads in the sand. Let's just deal with it rationally.

[Dman]

Let's just deal with it rationally.


Umm, you do realize we're on the internet? lol

[Gonabite]

I agree 100% Who cares what the VCA is doing. VOA just needs to focus on making itself the best it can be.


There's a difference here between discussing the VCA website (or any topic for that matter) and disparaging the VCA. There's no need to deliberately avert our attention from another Viper club. The VCA, like it or not, is still an "entity" among Viper owners. Why should we avoid discussion of the VCA (or in this case their website) as long as it remains rational and informative. As far as I'm concerned, we should neither avoid or chase after VCA topics. If they come up, so be it. But let's not feel some obligation to stick our heads in the sand. Let's just deal with it rationally.

I couldn't agree more with both of you...

If someone is not a fan of the VCA why go there and look to see whats going on, and why comment negatively. I may be new here, but have been in the Viper community since 2000 and a previous member of the VCA. I don't know what occurred that some people chose to leave there or the reason for a new site. And you know what I dont care nor will I sift through pages of threads to find out.

Hopefully those that had their pee pee shut in a door will get over it and act like adults, and get back to being contributing members to the Viper community weather its here or there. I know there isn't a ton of chatter on either forum but there has to be more informative things to discuss than how many people are posting wherever.

[Black Pearl]

The VCA may have slowed down with new posts, but you still can find a ton more information on the Viper than on here for now.

[City]

Umm, you do realize we're on the internet? lol

Good to be reminded every now and then! :D

[Propsail]

Please, do we really have to keep commenting on another Club, this does no one any good and if anything will turn prospective owners from joining this club and forums.

100% agree. This thread is nothing more than gloating at the expense of another club. Like the gossips who enjoy dishing the dirt on the bad fortune of their neighbors. People keep saying the VOA has moved on. Threads like this prove we have a long way to go.

[Propsail]

There's a difference here between discussing the VCA website (or any topic for that matter) and disparaging the VCA. There's no need to deliberately avert our attention from another Viper club. The VCA, like it or not, is still an "entity" among Viper owners. Why should we avoid discussion of the VCA (or in this case their website) as long as it remains rational and informative. As far as I'm concerned, we should neither avoid or chase after VCA topics. If they come up, so be it. But let's not feel some obligation to stick our heads in the sand. Let's just deal with it rationally.

And what is it we are supposed to be learning that's so informative? How to gloat about what some would think is a dead carcass? Or beating a dead horse? Or just saying, "Nah-nah nah nah nah"?

[FLATOUT]

And what is it we are supposed to be learning that's so informative? How to gloat about what some would think is a dead carcass? Or beating a dead horse? Or just saying, "Nah-nah nah nah nah"?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and aSSume that the entire premise of this thread was a joke. I could be wrong though. Regardless of the OP's intended outcome of the thread I was and have been entertained by the responses.

[TrackAire]

Right now the main value of the VCA is the wealth of knowledge base and information on their forum regarding posts and threads in their archives, specifically the Gen 1,2,3 and 4 sections. They are very light on Gen 5 knowledge base.

I think the VOA should make an offer to buy the archives from the VCA so they are available here too. The longer the VCA waits to sell, the lower the value will be. Regardless of how each club would feel about this, the reality it would be good for the Viper Nation and that's what matters, right?

[City]

And what is it we are supposed to be learning that's so informative? How to gloat about what some would think is a dead carcass? Or beating a dead horse? Or just saying, "Nah-nah nah nah nah"?

I was not gloating. I'm not even sure what to possibly gloat about. I too think the OP was kidding. But these threads do give insight into how VOA members and Viper enthusiasts feel about the split. There's some venting no doubt, but that's part of the "healing process". I simply don't see any reason to deliberately ignore and avoid any mention of the VCA because doing so would constitute some lack of "moving on." Isn't "discussion" the design and nature of a web forum?

[City]

Right now the main value of the VCA is the wealth of knowledge base and information on their forum regarding posts and threads in their archives, specifically the Gen 1,2,3 and 4 sections. They are very light on Gen 5 knowledge base.

I think the VOA should make an offer to buy the archives from the VCA so they are available here too. The longer the VCA waits to sell, the lower the value will be. Regardless of how each club would feel about this, the reality it would be good for the Viper Nation and that's what matters, right?

I am aware of several attempts by the VOA to initiate "merger discussions". I also know that we were rejected outright. I'm not blaming either party, just explaining that the VOA officers have not been standing on ceremony. Most everyone here believes that one Viper club would be best. Getting there is another story.

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

Remember This outrageous 'Juggernaut' claim? And 8,000,000 average web hits claimed per month?!?

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/excitement-builds-for-the-2013-viper-as-iconic-owners-club-takes-the-lead-on-global-marketing-campaign-186948661.html

[Jack B]

I just thought it was interesting the VCA G5 forum had basically died, there is also zero activity.

if you read the post it was specifically addressing the G5 f orum, not the VCA itself. Since I spend most of my time at the VOA, I had not realized how low their activity was.



I'm going to go out on a limb here and aSSume that the entire premise of this thread was a joke. I could be wrong though. Regardless of the OP's intended outcome of the thread I was and have been entertained by the responses.

[FLATOUT]

I just thought it was interesting the VCA G5 forum had basically died, there is also zero activity.

if you read the post it was specifically addressing the G5 f orum, not the VCA itself. Since I spend most of my time at the VOA, I had not realized how low their activity was.

Agree, I knew you weren't meaning to take a jab at them but more of making an observation that the migration of info sharing for this Gen Viper is here not there. Didn't see it as gloating either.

[Granger73]

Don't forget, buying a raffle ticket is akin to rejoining the VCA. Since the VCA nets @75% of the ticket revenue, that $200.00 ticket nets them @$150.00. About the price of a Venom membership. BEWARE.

[ViperSmith]

Look at the bright side, at least the useless troll FLL-B/W-GTS isn't here.

[Dman]

Look at the bright side, at least the useless troll FLL-B/W-GTS isn't here.

Word to your mother. I took a peek over there and saw the venom thread, and boom there's his pathetic dribble trying to hijack the only current/useful thread to lay smack talk, his penis must be so small it's concave. It reminded me why I just don't frequent that forum anymore. Total shame we can't unify, but ....

[XSnake]

Look at the bright side, at least the useless troll FLL-B/W-GTS isn't here.

Or BobTampax

[Patentlaw]

Or BobTampax

Damn it.....You beat me to it. WIKIPEDIA POSTS GALORE for everyone!

Free2Go will have his return Bob lovefest post in a few hours complete with a selfie included. The two, linked for eternity.

So much better here.....

[sparkrn]

Right now the main value of the VCA is the wealth of knowledge base and information on their forum regarding posts and threads in their archives, specifically the Gen 1,2,3 and 4 sections. They are very light on Gen 5 knowledge base.

I think the VOA should make an offer to buy the archives from the VCA so they are available here too. The longer the VCA waits to sell, the lower the value will be. Regardless of how each club would feel about this, the reality it would be good for the Viper Nation and that's what matters, right?

I think this would be a great start for future unification, but unfortunately the egos have not subsided yet.

[AZTVR]

Word to your mother. I took a peek over there and saw the venom thread, and boom there's his pathetic dribble trying to hijack the only current/useful thread to lay smack talk, his penis must be so small it's concave. It reminded me why I just don't frequent that forum anymore. Total shame we can't unify, but ....

Whereas this forum has guys talking about other forum's guy's pee-pees and what the gossip is.

I agree with the posts above that it sure makes both clubs look like they have a lot of folks who still can't get over the break up.

[Dman]

Whereas this forum has guys talking about other forum's guy's pee-pees and what the gossip is.

I agree with the posts above that it sure makes both clubs look like they have a lot of folks who still can't get over the break up.

Not talking about guys, talking about trolls. Nice thing here is trolls are well managed. As for gossip, dunno, all the drama was above our local clubs altitude. We just hang and have a good time with vipers whatever the acronym of the club is. This is about Internet resources, not peeps, clubs or gossip.

[Vprbite]

its over johnny

Get em a body bag johnny!


Karate kid...anyone...no, just I remember that one?

[Vprbite]

Whereas this forum has guys talking about other forum's guy's pee-pees and what the gossip is.

I agree with the posts above that it sure makes both clubs look like they have a lot of folks who still can't get over the break up.

Hey, we don't need to talk about the other clubs pee-pees cause everyone knows ours are bigger.

[whitebeard]

Hey, we don't need to talk about the other clubs pee-pees cause everyone knows ours are bigger.

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[ViperTony]

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131030213603/degrassi/images/b/ba/Drama-is-bad-mmkay-mr-mackey-25108921-310-310.gif

I think posts that calls the other club names, etc. only gives them more reason to play the victim card. It's one thing to discuss general club topics but name calling is bad, mmkay?

[Vprbite]

I take full responsibility for my behavior. I just couldn't pass up the chance to quote karate kid. That's my fault. It's a problem I have.

Ordinarily I am the first one to say not to waste our time or effort bashing another club. That the best thing we can do is put our energy into being the best club we can and let things shake out as they may. I feel we should set the standard for behavior, not drop down to a level beneath us in an effort to "win" or show how our club kicks ass and theirs does not. So for that, I do apologize,

But c'mon, Karate kid quotes. I had to! William Zabka even follows me on Twitter.

I guess it stems from the fact that fear does not exist in the VOA. Weakness does not exist in the VOA. Mercy does not exist in the VOA.

[BlknBlu]

All I know is Wax on and Wax off.

Bruce

[Dman]

Sweep the leg!

- are we off track enuff yet to kill this thread and put it in a body bag.

[elanderholm]

Yeah, but if we wanted to I could make a crawler that takes everything off the site and puts it on aws in elasticsearch and then we could all search their content without ever going there.

[AZTVR]

Yeah, but if we wanted to I could make a crawler that takes everything off the site and puts it on aws in elasticsearch and then we could all search their content without ever going there.

Although that might be theft in a legal sense; it would certainly appear inappropriate and inappropriate actions at the other club are a big reason why this club was formed. So, I say, no way, Jose'.

Edit: oops, I meant to type "Although that might NOT be theft in a legal sense". Doh!

[ViperSmith]

Although that might be theft in a legal sense; it would certainly appear inappropriate and inappropriate actions at the other club are a big reason why this club was formed. So, I say, no way, Jose'.

Generally the content is owned by the posters (this is usually so the site can't be sued if someone sues over posted content)

So, it's more if the rights are given by posters to repost.

[AZTVR]

Generally the content is owned by the posters (this is usually so the site can't be sued if someone sues over posted content)

So, it's more if the rights are given by posters to repost.

Agreed.

oops, I meant to type: "Although that might NOT be theft in a legal sense". Doh!

[FSTENUF]

LET IT GO ALL READY :t0152:

[KickAsp]

There were just too many trolls and disrespectful postings, and very little left to read as my Ignore List grew longer and longer. Pretty sad, and we need to be sure we don't tolerate that nonsense here.

Yes that's very true