So how long until Nineball embarasses the new Ford GT????

[Rizzo]

HAHAHA. Just wondering if he has plans to humilate any Ford GT owners in a year or so? The new GT looks INCREDIBLE. That is one sexy car but I am hearing rumours of 400G. OUCH !!!. It its close to 200 G I think there might be one in my stable but if its over that I am out. Anybody hear going to get one on order?

[C-Note]

No way will he be able to keep it stock for that long.

[ViperSmith]

I like it

But once you see it, it can't be unseen

http://i.imgur.com/khpa63il.jpg

[V10powerr]

I love it - may have to wait on pricing before pulling the trigger on a gen v.
Love the gen v but this car looks even more exotic
Anyone have updatea on the power of the new gt350

[ACRJUD]

kinda shocked they made that badass car and put a turbo 6 in it...

[VENOM V]

I like it

But once you see it, it can't be unseen

http://i.imgur.com/khpa63il.jpg

Hahaha! Harold, are you trying to ruin it for me? I think I like it, but now it's like the hot girl that farted loud and proud.

[Chorps]

kinda shocked they made that badass car and put a turbo 6 in it...

Forced induction is the future. Smaller displacement is needed to meet CARB, EPA and other government regs coming up fast. Viper will be affected too, 2016 will be an interesting year.

[BOOSTED]

Price depending , I will be ordering.

Look at the GTR's , v6 and they can make huge power . I see no issues with Ford putting a 6 cyl in the car :dude3:

[ViperSmith]

Hahaha! Harold, are you trying to ruin it for me? I think I like it, but now it's like the hot girl that farted loud and proud.

LOL.

It will be out in 2017, two years away. I imagine this will have a $200k pricetag, I'd be shocked if it were less.

I don't see how the NSX will sell for $150k, they'll run into the same issue as the Viper did at its price point.

[v10enomous]

Either way I'm ready for another Hitler video...

[Zybane]

I love it - may have to wait on pricing before pulling the trigger on a gen v.
Love the gen v but this car looks even more exotic


You do realize the new GT will most likely be $200K-$300K. Pretty large price difference over a GENV, 2-3 times the cost.

[Policy Limits]

Dual clutch 600 hp, and insect doors. Wow. But the ACR will be 1/2 the cost.

[ViperTony]

Dual clutch 600 hp, and insect doors. Wow. But the ACR will be 1/2 the cost.

Insect doors? LOL. That's the first time I've heard that analogy. ;)

[ViperTony]

8346

[viper_eddie]

Doesn't Ford have enough low emissions vehicles to squeeze in one turbo V8?

The sound is just not there for me. I know it's more expensive to use a V8 but...forget it I'm not the target audience anyways so who cares lol

[Junkie]

I would put my money on a well driven GT being faster than Viper...

[Nine Ball]

I get no rewards from Dodge, so I could very well be out there embarrassing Vipers in 2017. ;)

[Schen]

V6 + Ford GT = Insult to everyone that's built the ones before it.

My parents aren't really car people, at least not like me. Showed them the car and had the same reaction I did, looks great. But when I told them it had a V6 I got a weird look from dad and mom went, 'That's it?'

Yeah, that's it.

The NSX is about five years late to the party. Good luck to Acura.

--RS

[V10powerr]

I agree at 200-300k good luck to ford
Too many options in that range

[Crotalidae]

Prior reincarnation of the Ford GT looks much better than this one...I would pass on this vehicle regardless of performance...

[Junkie]

Keep in mind guys, we aren't the target audience. The car had to meet certain rules to race in a class. Do I like the DCT or V6 TT, fuck no. Do I think it has potential to work at its designed purpose, yes.

[ViperSmith]

Theyll sell a bunch of them. Exotic market is a lot different now.

Lots of old people with cash that love American cars that will jump on it.

[Dman]

I agree, there's a group that'll gobble these up, and I'm sure power to weight to handling will be supercar levels. It does sound like it make be well north of $150k based on the interview. CF body, CF tub, with DCT 7 speed and 600hp+ it'll post some numbers. Of course by the time it hits streets we hopefully will have an ACR or at least an update.

[GRNBGON]

With the Paddle Shift Automatic, they will sell a lot of them. Thats what the world is coming to. Anyone with a drivers license could drive it, not so with a Viper.

[slitherv10]

These will be sold out before they hit the dealerships. The 05 and 06 will be worth even more in my opinion if these do not bring more exotics to the table in my opinion.

V6 FI engines will be the norm in the future as more and more manufactures are reaching out for the smaller , lighter is better option.

[ViperSmith]

unsure why people have such an issue with the V6, if it brings the power.

[commandomatt]

unsure why people have such an issue with the V6, if it brings the power.

For the same reason people have a problem with a V8 Viper

Having said that, the GT, if it goes to market looking like this, will easily hold the #1 spot for a supercar built in the US. Not to take anything away from our beloved Viper but that GT is so far ahead in styling, its in a different league. I am sure it wont be a let down in performance either

[ACRucrazy]

They wont sell a bunch of them, as this one is going to be more exclusive than the 05/06. So less than 4,000 production at a higher price.

[SWEEN]

Lol they will sell out of these things. They could price it whatever they want, the 2005-2006 FGT has gone up so much in price people will buy it just for an investment.

I like it. I'm disappointed that it's a V6 but if it puts up the numbers I can't complain. It's different for a Viper, one of things that makes the viper unique is the huge V10, what makes the FGT unique is the styling and heritage not it's engine.

[Policy Limits]

Hearing rumors that it will cost over 300k.

[Rapidrezults]

I bet this car looks much better in person...

Such a great time to be a performance car enthusiast! New competition being born every day.

[Zybane]

Prior reincarnation of the Ford GT looks much better than this one...I would pass on this vehicle regardless of performance...

Are you being sarcastic? Hopefully so, this is one bad ass mofo of a car...

I like the Viper, but this car is in a different league. That's as it should be, seeing as it's likely to cost 2-3 times a Viper.

[IndyRon]

They did the one thing that will make the '04-'06 cars go up even more in value...put a sissy V6 in it. It needs a relatively small displacement V8 Twin turbo. Fail. It better be 3000-3200lbs or its an epic fail. I do like the styling though.

[mnc2886]

unsure why people have such an issue with the V6, if it brings the power.

The Ford GT has a long and storied legacy. It's just something that has so much nostalgia that it makes little sense to build it as a V6. I personally like the design of the car, but a V6 is a mistake. I perused the forums and there are quite a few people on the Ford GT forum that are completely turned off by it being a 6 cylinder.

Exactly as said in this thread, you don't build a V8 Viper.

[slitherv10]

The Ford GT has a long and storied legacy. It's just something that has so much nostalgia that it makes little sense to build it as a V6. I personally like the design of the car, but a V6 is a mistake. I perused the forums and there are quite a few people on the Ford GT forum that are completely turned off by it being a 6 cylinder.

Exactly as said in this thread, you don't build a V8 Viper.


Sometimes you have to except the inevitable and realize that you have to conform with the future. Sitting in limbo or holding on to old ways has no place in evolution. If everyone thought as some do here, we would not have what we have today.

The times of big displacements and HP through size may be coming to an end and we all have to except it and live with it. To continue to try and better the V10 or even V8 through this and that is getting narrower and narrower. Porsche has been building V6 supercars since time began. The Japanese and Koreans have been doing the same. I realize that the old muscle for the hustle may be in jeopardy but, it is what it is. Automatics are becoming the norm etc.

[Viktimize]

Where are people pulling these wild MSRP guesses from of 200-400k? I'm going to guess this is around 150k. That's around where the last gen GT was. And the reason the last GT became so notorious other than being rare, is because it would easily do over 1000hp on the stock engine. Let's see if that shitbox Ecoboost can do that. If it can't then I don't know if this car will maintain a high price point. I'm sure at first sales will be crazy just because of the hype on the last gen GT, but time will tell if it can hold up.

Cool looking car though either way. I'd take the new NSX in a heart beat over this thing, but that's just me.

[viper_eddie]

What V6 supercar has Porsche built? The flat 6 is not a V6.


Sometimes you have to except the inevitable and realize that you have to conform with the future. Sitting in limbo or holding on to old ways has no place in evolution. If everyone thought as some do here, we would not have what we have today.

The times of big displacements and HP through size may be coming to an end and we all have to except it and live with it. To continue to try and better the V10 or even V8 through this and that is getting narrower and narrower. Porsche has been building V6 supercars since time began. The Japanese and Koreans have been doing the same. I realize that the old muscle for the hustle may be in jeopardy but, it is what it is. Automatics are becoming the norm etc.

[kdaviper]

I'm thinking the Cd will be impressive on this GT.

[Schen]

Umm okay how bout this...

It's like putting Chinese food on the picnic table for the 4th of July.

--RS

[Rizzo]

2 things I hate. Flappy paddles and V6 super cars. I would suck it up for this car and evolve. I LOVE the looks. I want one. And if they can be bought for 150 G I'll take 2. Lol

[Snakebit10]

Prior reincarnation of the Ford GT looks much better than this one...I would pass on this vehicle regardless of performance...

I felt the same way when I first saw "pic" of the car. Not that inspiring especially with that subdued color blue imho. But then I saw a video walk around of the car and that aero treatment really changed my view of the car. I still think the prior FGT looks better overall but this one will grow on me. The front end could have been more special imho but overall its going to go over well with the exotic crowd I think. My biggest let down about this car is the V6. You surround the car with all this exotic CF goodness etc then you stick a V6 in the middle of it??? Why not a smaller displacement V8 like in the P1 etc? I am sure it will be fast no doubt but to me it kind of hurts the image of it. Imagine a 911 with a flat 4, Aventador with a v6/v8, Viper with a V6/V8 etc. Yes they can be fast but.......

That being said the fact that at least the V6 is sourced directly from the prototype cars means its a tested unit that will make the power needed for their goals. I am not worried about its power making ability. Tons of TT V6 cars past and present that make comparable power to the bigger bore engines for example GNX to GTR. Maybe the all around performance will be so over the top that we will all forget its a V6. Im hoping for that since it appears the V6 is hear to stay.

[viperdan]

2 things I hate. Flappy paddles and V6 super cars. I would suck it up for this car and evolve. I LOVE the looks. I want one. And if they can be bought for 150 G I'll take 2. Lol

So guys then what about the new NSX? It will be a 3.5 V6, twin turbo with three electric motors and hp north of 550. Not sure about weight yet but I'm guessing in the 3200lb. range. Go to the six minute mark to start video, if you don't want to watch the chatter go to the 15 minute mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxn3i9azw-U

[Zybane]

I think you guys are seriously underestimating TT V6's. Look at GTR's, they get those things upwards of 2000 horsepower? Crazy. My GTR sounded great with a straight open titanium exhaust system.

[Nine Ball]

You guys are dreaming if you think the FGT will come in at $150K. That is what they cost in 2004, and a decade of dollar depreciation and inflation will almost guarantee that $150K today is a pipe dream. I know Ford will do what it takes to keep costs down, but I don't see this car coming in under $225K. They aren't planning to mass-produce these things, I'd think they would target the 1000-1500 per year like the first generation FGT.

Also, you guys that mentioned the Porsche 6-cylinder, even Porsche knew to put a V8 in their 918 halo car. Just sayin'

[slitherv10]

What V6 supercar has Porsche built? The flat 6 is not a V6.

Is the 911 Turbo or GT3 not considered a supercar?. I would hope so if they have put the Viper in that status in many articles and the Porsche is no slouch compared to the Viper.
Secondly, a Flat 6 vs a V6 is basically that the flat 6 you would get better handling because of its lower center of gravity over the V6. Power is no different. A 6 cylinder is a 6 cylinder. Its just arranged differently in each of the Flat, inline and V configurations.

So to repeat my quote, yes, Porsche does make a, correction, flat 6 engine with loads of power. Nothing wrong with a 6 cylinder. I have heard some of them Porsches and Subarus with exhaust upgrades sound very throaty as well if that is your beef. yes its no 10 cylinder but, a jaguar also has a 12 cylinder and I wouldn't consider that something special. Displacement means nothing without performance. If that is Ford needs to further this car into the future, then in my opinion, they are steps ahead of Chevy and Dodge.

[Nine Ball]

I think you guys are seriously underestimating TT V6's. Look at GTR's, they get those things upwards of 2000 horsepower? Crazy.

I know plenty of those guys personally. You do realize that some of those engine blocks are filled with cement, and have no coolant passages, don't you? They are meant for one thing only - straight line passes at a track. The LeMans races also allow up to 4.0 liters boosted, so I'm not sure why Ford would suggest going 3.5L instead. Even the GT-R has a bigger engine.

[Lokien]

I want this... A LOT. Viper & Ford GT have always been my dream cars. If its below 250kish I may buy it.. Even if I have to sell the Viper to get it..

[Zybane]

I know plenty of those guys personally. You do realize that some of those engine blocks are filled with cement, and have no coolant passages, don't you? They are meant for one thing only - straight line passes at a track. The LeMans races also allow up to 4.0 liters boosted, so I'm not sure why Ford would suggest going 3.5L instead. Even the GT-R has a bigger engine.

Well yes, the 2000 HP cars are just the extreme. But to get 1,000 to 1,500 HP out of a 3.8L TT V6 completely street drive able is pretty impressive.

[Rizzo]

No way the GT is coming in at anywhere near 150G. I had heard comments about that too but NO WAY its happening. I also think any dealer that gets his hands on one will prob ask 50 to 100G over MSRP anyway so the chances of getting one anywhere near even 200G are slim to none. Im guessing it will take somewhere near 300 to actually GET one regardless of the MSRP. Ive also heard a GTR that sounded very exotic. It had a crazy exhaust on it that made it sound very good. The stock GTR's sound like crap.... Well they dont sound like anything. Like a big hair dryer..LOL.

[Lokien]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPJ7WZoV4xA

Obviously production version sound may differ. I like it, and I have a feeling it will sound great wailing at the redline.

[Rizzo]

So guys then what about the new NSX? It will be a 3.5 V6, twin turbo with three electric motors and hp north of 550. Not sure about weight yet but I'm guessing in the 3200lb. range. Go to the six minute mark to start video, if you don't want to watch the chatter go to the 15 minute mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxn3i9azw-U

NSX to me is like the R8. Its cool looking but not exotic looking. It looks like a 100G car but not even close to a 150 or 200 G car. I think NSX is 2 or 3 years late to the party. 550 HP just doesnt cut it anymore when you're in the 150G range.

[HobokenViper]

You guys are dreaming if you think the FGT will come in at $150K. That is what they cost in 2004, and a decade of dollar depreciation and inflation will almost guarantee that $150K today is a pipe dream. I know Ford will do what it takes to keep costs down, but I don't see this car coming in under $225K. They aren't planning to mass-produce these things, I'd think they would target the 1000-1500 per year like the first generation FGT.

Also, you guys that mentioned the Porsche 6-cylinder, even Porsche knew to put a V8 in their 918 halo car. Just sayin'

Nine Ball has got it right. Given inflation over the past decade, the entire car is carbon fiber, the supposed more limited production than the previous model, wild styling features and active aero bits, and likely huge dealer markups, $150k is never happening. Doubtful even $200k is happening, and I'll predict a MSRP of between $250-$300k, with dealer markups skyrocketing from there. This car will be one of the few special ones that will appreciate a great deal in price after leaving the dealer lots, and I want one badly!

[Simms]

I love the GT and everything it represents, but for some reason the look of this generation doesn't blow me away. Almost too busy, maybe it will grow on me. I really dug the old one from day one.

I do believe it will be an incredible car for sure.

[GTSnake]

I have inside knowledge from a couple sources at the top in Ford that it's going to likely be north of $300k. Original plans were $350k -$400k a few months ago. They may surprise us and bring it a little lower, but don't even think about under $250k.

[The_Greg]

I have inside knowledge from a couple sources at the top in Ford that it's going to likely be north of $300k. Original plans were $350k -$400k a few months ago. They may surprise us and bring it a little lower, but don't even think about under $250k.

If this is the case, either the weight will have to come in low or the HP has to come in higher. I don't think masses of people would be running to spend $350k on a 600hp 3200 (?) lb car. Not when you have a better power:weight ratio in the Viper at $85k or the Corvette.. or lambos, etc. etc.

The LaFerrari comes in around 2900 lbs with a similar construction strategy heavily based on CF. I think a similar weight with 650, 700, or more HP on the new GT might raise enough eyebrows to bring in $200k or more.

But, uh, hey what do I know, I am not exactly the target income bracket :)

[Zybane]

Ive also heard a GTR that sounded very exotic. It had a crazy exhaust on it that made it sound very good. The stock GTR's sound like crap.... Well they dont sound like anything. Like a big hair dryer..LOL.

Ya, the stock GTR exhaust is just really awful. Nissan should be ashamed of themselves. A nice aftermarket exhaust does wonders for that car.


NSX to me is like the R8. Its cool looking but not exotic looking. It looks like a 100G car but not even close to a 150 or 200 G car. I think NSX is 2 or 3 years late to the party. 550 HP just doesnt cut it anymore when you're in the 150G range.

I completely agree. The new NSX is like a refreshed R8. For $100K- maybe $110K I would have considered the NSX. $155K+? Not a chance.

[viperdan]

NSX to me is like the R8. Its cool looking but not exotic looking. It looks like a 100G car but not even close to a 150 or 200 G car. I think NSX is 2 or 3 years late to the party. 550 HP just doesnt cut it anymore when you're in the 150G range.



I completely agree. The new NSX is like a refreshed R8. For $100K- maybe $110K I would have considered the NSX. $155K+? Not a chance.

I am not sure I would compare the NSX to an R8, it is a hybrid powered fresh design with hi tech materials and electronics. As for the 550 what does a GT3 or RS offer and they are easily 150 plus. Also Acura will not flood the market with big production numbers.

[Dman]

I have inside knowledge from a couple sources at the top in Ford that it's going to likely be north of $300k. Original plans were $350k -$400k a few months ago. They may surprise us and bring it a little lower, but don't even think about under $250k.

You know, I love it, but at that price point it's kind of like why bother doing it. The $150-$200k range is one thing, getting into the $300-400k range, I'm sorry but it needs to have Drive, Neutral, Reverse and Fellatio selections on the gear knob.

[ViperSmith]

Big blocks are dead. Thats the moral of the story here.

I am really surprised it doesn't have KERS or the like.

[Crotalidae]

Are you being sarcastic? Hopefully so, this is one bad ass mofo of a car...

I like the Viper, but this car is in a different league. That's as it should be, seeing as it's likely to cost 2-3 times a Viper.

We can agree to disagree...I am not being sarcastic...don't care for the appearance of the newest GT...I am sure it is very well engineered & the technology is "on point"...but, I'd take the last model any day over this one...the prior model stirs my soul when I look at it...as does my Gen V...this 2016 does not command any sort of emotional response...again just my opinion...it's great to have a variety of choices...it's the spice of life...cheers!!!

[ViperSmith]

I think the last FGT and the original will be classics forever.

I don't see this aging well, personally.

I like the way it looks, but unsure how it will look in 20 years.

[Vprbite]

I am not a ford guy by any means but I loved the re release of the GT in 2004-2006. This new thing may be cool looking, or futuristic looking, or you may even call it supercar looking...whatever, but to me it doesn't look like an evolution of a GT. I have no problem with ford building it, but I don't like marketing it as the next GT. It doesn't feel like that to me.

I feel like people who have an original GT 40 and a 2004 GT aren't going to to be jumping all over these. Will they sell? I sure as shit bet they do. But not to people who have always drooled over the GT. These will sell to investment type collectors because of their limited run and people who must have the latest and greatest when they pull up to the restaurant in Hollywood. But I don't see it going to purists. Maybe to some of the "Blue Oval Must Have's" who buy every possible mustang Limited Edition and such. Those types of guys.

Money being no object and if I could stroke a check this instant for one, would I buy one??? NOPE!

[Policy Limits]

Just like the gen V didn't photograph well and really needed to be seen in first person to be apprecisted, I bet this new GT will look absolutely awesome in person. Just a hunch.

[v10enomous]

I like it.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/njvipermail/GTHeritage_zpsf9fed3a9.jpg (http://s375.photobucket.com/user/njvipermail/media/GTHeritage_zpsf9fed3a9.jpg.html)

[Viktimize]

You guys are dreaming if you think the FGT will come in at $150K. That is what they cost in 2004, and a decade of dollar depreciation and inflation will almost guarantee that $150K today is a pipe dream. I know Ford will do what it takes to keep costs down, but I don't see this car coming in under $225K. They aren't planning to mass-produce these things, I'd think they would target the 1000-1500 per year like the first generation FGT.

Also, you guys that mentioned the Porsche 6-cylinder, even Porsche knew to put a V8 in their 918 halo car. Just sayin'

Viper has managed to do it just fine, why can't Ford? Guess we will see. I remember all the shit I caught for my estimate on Z06 pricing which turned out to be spot on.

[Policy Limits]

I like it.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/njvipermail/GTHeritage_zpsf9fed3a9.jpg (http://s375.photobucket.com/user/njvipermail/media/GTHeritage_zpsf9fed3a9.jpg.html)
Good mother of God that is sex on 4 wheels!

[The_Greg]

Good mother of God that is sex on 4 wheels!

What he said!

I do notice that the Jonsibal render has a steeper ducktail than the concept car we were shown.

[Schen]

Big blocks are dead. Thats the moral of the story here.

I am really surprised it doesn't have KERS or the like.

But no one said anything about a big block V8.

Small liter, twin turbo V8. That's all they needed, but Ford is taking shortcuts. Ford wants the V8 to die. Right now.

The Mustang GT350R might just be the last hurrah V8 offering from Ford. Ecoboost, great for racing, not exactly great for sales. At least not in the exotic car market.

--RS

[Zybane]

Nothing special about a V8.

[ViperSmith]

But no one said anything about a big block V8.

Small liter, twin turbo V8. That's all they needed, but Ford is taking shortcuts. Ford wants the V8 to die. Right now.

The Mustang GT350R might just be the last hurrah V8 offering from Ford. Ecoboost, great for racing, not exactly great for sales. At least not in the exotic car market.

--RS

Friend of mine made a salient point: The new FGT is basically a big "look what we can do with Ecoboost" and I tend to agree with him.

[Dman]

Well, Ford has already said they will top the Hellcat on power, and there are plenty in the 'in crowd' (so they say) that say the GT500 next gen is coming, so we'll see what Ford does with a FI V8, I can't imagine the GT500 being anything else. But I think they went TTV6 for racing purposes and with a 4 yr plan in mind, I think this is really a halo car, as in truly halo, like forget trying to own one 1%er, you need to be a .01%er. And doing a race campaign worthy of super model poster status.

In other news ... how 'bout that viper though. Mine is on it's way, hard to get excited about anything else than that right now ;-)

[Schen]

Nothing special about a V8.

Cheapest horsepower build there is in any platform. Why do you think so many use V8s? V6s just a few years ago didn't mean squat. They were, in essence, stupid motors because the thought process was 'you could have upgraded to a V8, why on earth would you get a V6?' If that wasn't enough, we've suddenly decided to make transmissions even more complicated by adding more gears each year. Why are we wasting so much time then? I understand the technology today wasn't around in 92', but why didn't we search opportunities to upgrade the V6 then? Considering the gas crisis in the 70s.


So again, why a TT V6 and not a small liter TT V8? Porsche, Ferrari and McLaren did it.

--RS
--RS

[Zybane]

V6's will get better gas mileage. IMO before we go full electric in 1-2 decades I4's will become mainstream and V6's the top end. V8's through 12's will fade away. Ford went out of their way to stamp "EcoBoost" on the engine cover of the GT. They want to change perceptions.

The TTV6 in my GTR was bad ass. But it's also one of the reasons I have a Viper on order, get a V10 before they disappear.

[TheAnonymousOne]

unsure why people have such an issue with the V6, if it brings the power.

Because key characteristics define a car. This is no complicated. It's what makes the auto world excited. Differing opinions in engineering face off. Japs are know for 6 and 4 cylinder high strung engines. Italians are known for 8 and 12 cylinder high strung engines. Americans are known for massive motors. Some like rear engine, some like front, some like mid. That's what's (was) so exciting. American muscle is not American muscle without a massive 8 cylinder + motor. That's what makes it what it is. The GTR is the worst example I can think of. That's what it's know for, what it's all about.

The Ford GT is V8. The Viper is V10. Without those motors they've completely lost their identity and soul.

[The_Greg]

Because key characteristics define a car. This is no complicated. It's what makes the auto world excited. Differing opinions in engineering face off. Japs are know for 6 and 4 cylinder high strung engines. Italians are known for 8 and 12 cylinder high strung engines. Americans are known for massive motors. Some like rear engine, some like front, some like mid. That's what's (was) so exciting. American muscle is not American muscle without a massive 8 cylinder + motor. That's what makes it what it is. The GTR is the worst example I can think of. That's what it's know for, what it's all about.

The Ford GT is V8. The Viper is V10. Without those motors they've completely lost their identity and soul.

The GT was V8
The Mustang is V8
The Camaro is V8
The Corvette is V8
The Challenger is V8
The Charger is V8
The Chevelle was V8
The Cuda was V8
The AMX was V8
The list goes on. My point is that it isn't very unique, so you can't quite attribute the Ford GT's special-ness to the V8. The Viper is America's only V10 car, and there aren't many else worldwide so it IS a defining characteristic - something that sets the Viper apart, and to me that's why I'd prefer the Viper to keep a V10.

There (http://youtu.be/TPJ7WZoV4xA) can be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sg4fvW47t8k&feature=youtu.be&t=15s) some excellent (http://youtu.be/QCnIs_dKTD4) sounding 6's (http://youtu.be/qNzucxqENZQ?t=41s) lest we (http://youtu.be/4pLXj6VfwNo) forget.

[TheAnonymousOne]

^ I know where you are trying to go with this, but you are actually bolstering my argument. American Muscle is V8 and larger. That's what defines it. That's what we believe in. The Japanese like small motors. The list goes on. Without at minimum a V8, it's no longer American Muscle. It becomes a car that uses another culture's identity. The same is true in the reverse. A GTR with a V8 is silly. It's no longer a GTR in my eyes.

It's fun when each respective idea comes to the table and dukes it out. People all using the exact same ideas and trying to be the best at it bores the hell out of me. Great example, Formula One. The only reason I ever went to see it was the sound of the motors. Now that's gone, now I don't care. My dream would be for an Ultimate GT class with no rules other than stick with engineering of your popular street cars.

Porsche thinks 6 cylinder rear engine is the best. Bring the nastiest car they can build to the race with that configuration.
Dodge things massive 10 cylinder with a front-mid engine is the best. " "
Ferrari thinks high strung mid engine V8 or V12 is the best. " "
Nissan thinks forced induction front engine 6 cylinder is the best. " "

Etc. Then we can truly see who is the best.

[Nine Ball]

In all fairness, the original GT40 wasn't an American car. It was a race car, built to compete in Europe. Ford might be an American company name, but they are now a global company and have different vehicles in other countries. I don't consider the GT40 "American muscle", since it never set foot on our public roads here.

But, I also find it silly to produce a model with pure emphasis on LeMans24, since that is just one race. Maybe they will offer the V6, and V8 models of the car?

[v10enomous]

In all fairness, the original GT40 wasn't an American car. It was a race car, built to compete in Europe. Ford might be an American company name, but they are now a global company and have different vehicles in other countries. I don't consider the GT40 "American muscle", since it never set foot on our public roads here.

But, I also find it silly to produce a model with pure emphasis on LeMans24, since that is just one race. Maybe they will offer the V6, and V8 models of the car?

Based on what you're saying the original the original AC Cobra was based on a European car and that car was the inspiration for the Viper which is now built by a division of a European company.... People do this with the Kevin Bacon game too... :)