Gen v carbon brakes almost ready

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

Here is a first look at the carbon brake package I am working on for the Gen V Viper.
I should have the first set on my car for the NARRA event at Sebring November 21st -23rd.
They will be 15" front and rear using the factory calibers.
Thanks
Wayne

[Space Truckin]

Sweet! :drive:

[XSnake]

Require 19" front wheel? I'll check these out at Sebring

[TooBlue]

Wouldn't these also work on Gen. 4s?

[XSnake]

Wouldn't these also work on Gen. 4s?

Rear suspension is different on Gen V IIRC

[Simms]

Sweet! More options.

[Timnineside]

Probably $1,000 shipped for all for rotors right? :).

[mnc2886]

Brakes look great!

On a side note, please do the carbon interior!!! PLEASE!!!!

[Simms]

Brakes look great!

On a side note, please do the carbon interior!!! PLEASE!!!!

And some valve/coil covers.

[TooBlue]

Rear suspension is different on Gen V IIRC

Gotcha'.

I am assuming these are full floating rotors. If that's the case. the rotor would ride on the wheel hub bearing.
Does any one know if the Gen 5 wheel hubs are different than Gen 4?

Sorry for going a little off topic. This would be a big improvement on my Gen 4 track car. Thx

[XSnake]

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Gotcha'.

I am assuming these are full floating rotors. If that's the case. the rotor would ride on the wheel hub bearing.
Does any one know if the Gen 5 wheel hubs are different than Gen 4?

Sorry for going a little off topic. This would be a big improvement on my Gen 4 track car. Thx

The caliper sits towards the front of the car on the Gen 4 and for the Gen 5 they moved it to the rear. Slipping the rotor onto the hub isn't going to be the issue, moving the caliper out to allow for the bigger rotor probably will be. I'm guessing the brackets that they have developed for the G5 to allow this won't work on the G4 due to the changed location. If they develop brackets for the G4 then I see no reason they couldn't be used. Now, if they are using a stock sized rear rotor just in ceramic then this would work without any issues IMO. From the pic, they have the front figured out and that should work on either Gen. But, unless you are doing enduros there's not a huge advantage in going to CC's.

[TooBlue]

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The caliper sits towards the front of the car on the Gen 4 and for the Gen 5 they moved it to the rear. Slipping the rotor onto the hub isn't going to be the issue, moving the caliper out to allow for the bigger rotor probably will be. I'm guessing the brackets that they have developed for the G5 to allow this won't work on the G4 due to the changed location. If they develop brackets for the G4 then I see no reason they couldn't be used. Now, if they are using a stock sized rear rotor just in ceramic then this would work without any issues IMO. From the pic, they have the front figured out and that should work on either Gen. But, unless you are doing enduros there's not a huge advantage in going to CC's.


Thanks. Makes sense.

One of the guys I track with has a carbon edition Z06 with the CC brakes. We go to basically the same number of events and usually run within a second or so
wherever we go. Last year I went through 3 sets of rotors compared to his one set not to mention they ran much cooler.
I realize driving styles are different but like I said, our lap times are very similar.

Looking forward to seeing if they will work.

Looks good for the Gen 5 guys. Unfortunately I'm not one...... YET

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

Require 19" front wheel? I'll check these out at Sebring

No
This set up will work with your stock wheels
I am also planing to do a set with 6 piston front calipers and then 15.5" front rotors they will require 19" wheels

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Wouldn't these also work on Gen. 4s?

I plan on doing them for the Gen 4 next

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

Probably $1,000 shipped for all for rotors right? :).

I am hoping to retail them for under $12,000.00

[bluesrt]

how much for wholesale?:United_States:

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

how much for wholesale?:United_States:

wont know till i'm done
but these parts are expensive

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

Since Wayne is sponsoring the Official Pace Car for NARRA-Sebring, Ill be fortunate to test these on the car! Dont get too close to me on the parade laps......

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

Since Wayne is sponsoring the Official Pace Car for NARRA-Sebring, Ill be fortunate to test these on the car! Dont get too close to me on the parade laps......

yes you will
I'm looking forward to it

[XSnake]

Thanks. Makes sense.

One of the guys I track with has a carbon edition Z06 with the CC brakes. We go to basically the same number of events and usually run within a second or so
wherever we go. Last year I went through 3 sets of rotors compared to his one set not to mention they ran much cooler.
I realize driving styles are different but like I said, our lap times are very similar.


You are probably still cheaper replacing 3 sets of steels to 1 set of ceramics.

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

You are probably still cheaper replacing 3 sets of steels to 1 set of ceramics.

advantages are no brake dust and they will probably last the life of the car or around 2500 hard miles on the track
replacement cost of the rotors is around $1500.00 each and pads are $400.00
most of the expense is in the custom hats, brackets and modifying the park brake
Thanks
Wayne

[C-Note]

Don't carbon brakes run a lot hotter than steel brakes? Will all of the factory seals and so on in the original calipers hold up to the heat?

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

Don't carbon brakes run a lot hotter than steel brakes? Will all of the factory seals and so on in the original calipers hold up to the heat?

In track use, and depending on pads, YES. They can run much hotter in some situations. So a big-brake-package / calipers built around CC rotors will likely have titanium pistons and/or vented pistons, and upgraded boots-seals. and CERTAINLY have SS lines, not rubber!

At a minimum, if you switch to CC rotors in standard SRT calipers, you should consider Titanium Backing Plates on your pads for ADVANCED track use with aggressive pads, to help protect OE boots-seals-pistons.

WAYNE: Id even "SPONSOR" a set of Titanium Backing Plates for the PartsRack Grand Prix Official Pace Car.

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

In track use, and depending on pads, YES. So a big-brake-package / calipers built around CC rotors will likely have titanium pistons and upgraded boots-seals.

At a minimum, if you switch to CC rotors in standard SRT calipers, you should consider Titanium Backing Plates on your pads for track use, to help protect OE boots-seals-pistons.

WAYNE: Id even "SPONSOR" a set of Titanium Backing Plates for the PartsRack Grand Prix Official Pace Car.

Sounds like a great idea Thanks John

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

Rear brakes are almost done


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[JonB ~ PartsRack]

Sounds like a great idea Thanks Jon

In the US Priority Mail today....

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

In the US Priority Mail today....

Got Them
Thanks

[mnc2886]

I'm excited to see a vendor investing time and energy into the Viper as that is rare. I know I posted it earlier in this thread, but I want to say it again. I really would like to see what you could do with the carbon interior parts. If they look anywhere near as good as the aero and these brakes, you'll have plenty of customers.

[ViperSmith]

Carbon Interior would be a hit, considering that MOPAR won't sell the OEM parts aftermarket.

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

I'm excited to see a vendor investing time and energy into the Viper as that is rare. I know I posted it earlier in this thread, but I want to say it again. I really would like to see what you could do with the carbon interior parts. If they look anywhere near as good as the aero and these brakes, you'll have plenty of customers.

I just finished my C7 conversion so the Viper can go into the shop and the Interior can come apart I have some 4x4 twill and V grove carbon I am want to try out. Here are a few shots of my C7 wide body kit and hood I know it's not a Viper but I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out.
Thanks
Wayne
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[mnc2886]

I just finished my C7 conversion so the Viper can go into the shop and the Interior can come apart I have some 4x4 twill and V grove carbon I am want to try out. Here are a few shots of my C7 wide body kit and hood I know it's not a Viper but I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out.
Thanks
Wayne
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Man, that looks sweet. Great craftsmanship and I can't wait to see what you can do with the interior.

[Crotalidae]

C7 looks bad a$$ w/ your kit!!!

[GBS]

Carbon Interior would be a hit, considering that MOPAR won't sell the OEM parts aftermarket.

Not only that, a lot of people don't like the matt finish on the OEM Carbon Interior package. Also, I'm not sure why they would use a different weave then the exterior carbon fiber parts. I think most people would prefer the interior and exterior carton fiber parts to match.

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

C7 looks bad a$$ w/ your kit!!!

Yes we build the kit and it should cost around $10,000.00 to convert a base car into out wide body if you know any one.
Im just glad it done so I can get back on the vipers
Thanks
Wayne

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

Not on that, a lot of people don't like the matt finish on the OEM Carbon Interior package. Also, I'm not sure why they would use a different weave then the exterior carbon fiber parts. I think most people would prefer the interior and exterior carton fiber parts to match.

Thats why I make molds of the parts so I can offer it any way you like any weave, color or finish and since I make all the other parts too it could all match
Thanks
Wayne

[Carbon GTS]

Cruzing your site and liking what I'm seeing. Any idea when youll pin down pricing on the X brace and trim parts? Oh and any plans for valve covers?

[mnc2886]

What's your best guess on the ETA for the interior parts?

[GRNBGON]

I just finished my C7 conversion so the Viper can go into the shop and the Interior can come apart I have some 4x4 twill and V grove carbon I am want to try out. Here are a few shots of my C7 wide body kit and hood I know it's not a Viper but I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out.
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Wayne
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Sorry but new corvette looks like a peice of morfidite POS to me.

[Zybane]

That's a bit harsh. While the corvette isn't as good looking as the Viper, it's not terrible.

[WDW MKR]

Ant interest in making CF door will covers or windshield cowl for the GEN2? There are other pieces I'd like to have, but these are the two main ones I wish I had bought when used VipAir pieces were available.

Great to see another shop working to support the Viper!

[XTREME SUPERCARS]

Ant interest in making CF door will covers or windshield cowl for the GEN2? There are other pieces I'd like to have, but these are the two main ones I wish I had bought when used VipAir pieces were available.

Great to see another shop working to support the Viper!

I will look into it but we just built a T/A style rear spoiler for the Gen 2 GTS
Thanks
Wayne

[ACR_Matt]

I will look into it but we just built a T/A style rear spoiler for the Gen 2 GTS
Thanks
Wayne

Can you post that in the Gen I/II section please? There are several of us on pins and needles waiting for someone, anyone, to make this part.