ACR G5 Viper @ SEMA 2014'

[BAD BOYZZ GARAGE]

2015' ACR G5 Viper @ SEMA 2014'

Bad Boyzz Garage @ SEMA

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[Policy Limits]

Boom.

[canadian viper]

not much of a concept there..... it is production ready.

[FLATOUT]

Pretty awesome.

[bluesrt]

it needs a rollbar option and halo seat option, hope they do that

[Murpowa]

In before the first supercharger comment!

[Voice of Reason]

See anything through the hood vents? Maybe they released pics of the car early because the hood will be up during the show displaying that awesome supercharger. One can hope right? :D

[Dman]

That's one beauty of a beast.

[Tiago]

sweet!

[TitleMine]

not much of a concept there..... it is production ready.

I hope they rush it out in 15 even though they've said otherwise If they give GM time to create a probably nearly-as-good ZR1, the brand will continue to founder. This could be a big boon for them. I agree, it looks ready to rock now.

[donk_316]

$145k?

[Bmw2nv2000]

Omg!!! Amazing!!!

[J TNT]

Thanks for posting Toddy !

[Bmw2nv2000]

My Lord Ive got to have one of these. The more I look at the pics the more little details Im loving

[BAD BOYZZ GARAGE]

Ford showed up to play too!! Mustang Track Pack by Rousch Racing.. Awesome to see

Bad Boyzz Garage @ SEMA 2014'

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[Murpowa]

Eww...

[Space Truckin]

:dropdev: Absolutely SICK :p0257: Thinking $120k-$130k?

[BlknBlu]

keep the pics coming, hoping to see the suspension on this beast

Bruce

[hova00]

Thanks for the pics. Cant wait to see what SEMA has in the cards this year.

[smhog]

Is that a matte black fuel door with body colored lettering? Matches the wheels nicely. Having the fuel door match the wheels should be a factory option.

Full CF interior package, can't go wrong there.

The red Stryker on the steering wheel, I'll have to see more pics to form an opinion.

Is the tach surround red as well? Or is that lighting?

Thank you for posting the pics, btw

Tim

[Policy Limits]

120-15. ;)

[XSnake]

I hope they rush it out in 15 even though they've said otherwise If they give GM time to create a probably nearly-as-good ZR1, the brand will continue to founder. This could be a big boon for them. I agree, it looks ready to rock now.

They've already stated this will be made as a 2015 production option

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120-15. ;)

LMAO

[VRYALT3R3D]

They've already stated this will be made as a 2015 production option

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The ACR? Who is your source?

[ACRSNK]

Nice, but don't care for that wing too much.

[TrackAire]

They've already stated this will be made as a 2015 production option

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LMAO

Stopped by the Mopar booth this afternoon around 4:45 pm and talked to Mark Trostle. I asked if the ACR was going into production and he replied it depends on how it is received and what kind of response it generates. I really believe what he said....I don't think this is a done deal yet, merely a concept without a 100% commitment to the final product.

Out of all the new FCA cars there, he felt the ACR concept was his favorite.

Car looked fantastic, but I gotta say that the Mopar booth is always one of the darkest in the whole show. Needs to get a lot of major lighting in there IMO.

Tomorrow at 4:26 pm (Get it??....lol) there will be the Mopar press conference. It looks like they will be announcing a new sponsorship of a NHRA funny car plus other goodies. Wish I could be there to see what gets announced.

If we want this ACR to come to market, we really need to keep the interest and demand up.

[Space Truckin]

Is that a matte black fuel door with body colored lettering? Matches the wheels nicely. Having the fuel door match the wheels should be a factory option.

Tim

Not feeling, having fuel door match "wheels" (matte black fuel door on white body?), if anything it should be factory option to be body color matched. IMHO

[Murpowa]

Stopped by the Mopar booth this afternoon around 4:45 pm and talked to Mark Trostle. I asked if the ACR was going into production and he replied it depends on how it is received and what kind of response it generates. I really believe what he said....I don't think this is a done deal yet, merely a concept without a 100% commitment to the final product.

Out of all the new FCA cars there, he felt the ACR concept was his favorite.

Car looked fantastic, but I gotta say that the Mopar booth is always one of the darkest in the whole show. Needs to get a lot of major lighting in there IMO.

Tomorrow at 4:26 pm (Get it??....lol) there will be the Mopar press conference. It looks like they will be announcing a new sponsorship of a NHRA funny car plus other goodies. Wish I could be there to see what gets announced.

If we want this ACR to come to market, we really need to keep the interest and demand up.

What else needs to be done? Social media blew up the week Mark teased us with the stripes and interest has remained high. Hell, it was one of the most viewed threads on the VOA. That's gotta count for something right?

[sparkrn]

Stopped by the Mopar booth this afternoon around 4:45 pm and talked to Mark Trostle. I asked if the ACR was going into production and he replied it depends on how it is received and what kind of response it generates. I really believe what he said....I don't think this is a done deal yet, merely a concept without a 100% commitment to the final product.

Out of all the new FCA cars there, he felt the ACR concept was his favorite.

Car looked fantastic, but I gotta say that the Mopar booth is always one of the darkest in the whole show. Needs to get a lot of major lighting in there IMO.

Tomorrow at 4:26 pm (Get it??....lol) there will be the Mopar press conference. It looks like they will be announcing a new sponsorship of a NHRA funny car plus other goodies. Wish I could be there to see what gets announced.

If we want this ACR to come to market, we really need to keep the interest and demand up.
Please let the funny car sponsor not be john Force!

[TitleMine]

What else needs to be done? Social media blew up the week Mark teased us with the stripes and interest has remained high. Hell, it was one of the most viewed threads on the VOA. That's gotta count for something right?

Also huge on a bunch of other forums, instagram, Reddit, etc. This is the most positive publicity the Gen V has EVER had. This thing needs to roll down Connor Ave. yesterday.

[docwviper]

Stopped by the Mopar booth this afternoon around 4:45 pm and talked to Mark Trostle. I asked if the ACR was going into production and he replied it depends on how it is received and what kind of response it generates. I really believe what he said....I don't think this is a done deal yet, merely a concept without a 100% commitment to the final product.

Out of all the new FCA cars there, he felt the ACR concept was his favorite.

Car looked fantastic, but I gotta say that the Mopar booth is always one of the darkest in the whole show. Needs to get a lot of major lighting in there IMO.

Tomorrow at 4:26 pm (Get it??....lol) there will be the Mopar press conference. It looks like they will be announcing a new sponsorship of a NHRA funny car plus other goodies. Wish I could be there to see what gets announced.

If we want this ACR to come to market, we really need to keep the interest and demand up.

Build it:D

[TrackAire]

I can't really report on much else because what you see is pretty much what you get at this point. Suspension is not anything special, just some coilovers to lower the car for looks according to Mark. Didn't see anything in the hood vents that was out of place. My gut says it really is a concept with nothing cast in stone regarding performance upgrades.

I really think this is where SRT needs to keep the ACR option in social media, etc and we the potential buying public need to keep on them to build it. It would also help if FCA came out and stated that they would not be holding back the ACR to help protect the Ferrari performance figures. I never liked the fact that it was stated at the 2012 Gen 5 launch in NY City that the Viper can't be more powerful than the F12. Bullshit....build the best you can and let the chips fall where they may. It will strengthen the entire FCA line.

It would really help if SRT would give us some input regarding what they're thinking of putting on the car so we could voice opinions, etc. Maybe that would help them put onto the car what the market wants. For example, the suspension should be full coilovers and manually adjustable, just like the last ACR. After seeing the Ohlins set up BBG has built for the Vipers, SRT would be crazy not to put a set through their paces as a potential suspension for the Gen 5 ACR. Regarding brakes, have both steel and carbon ceramics as options. Of course, those are my opinions, but we need to voice our wants and hopefully SRT will give us the options that are being asked for.

[Bruce H.]

Stopped by the Mopar booth this afternoon around 4:45 pm and talked to Mark Trostle. I asked if the ACR was going into production and he replied it depends on how it is received and what kind of response it generates. I really believe what he said....I don't think this is a done deal yet, merely a concept without a 100% commitment to the final product.

Out of all the new FCA cars there, he felt the ACR concept was his favorite.



Thanks for your reports. I really wish they had, and expressed, more commitment to the future of the car... a determination that they are going to make it a success no matter what. Without that they are just breeding uncertainty, and fueling speculation that the car won't survive. That lack of confidence has to affect sales. If they don't fully believe in their own ability to make it viable, and move forward with a fierce determination to right the mistakes of the past, then their fears are more likely to become reality. Tim started it by saying sales had to double, and now they've spent their time on an ACR "concept" and are looking for feedback. It seems like the same tried and true ACR formula that they used in the past, and could anticipate similar results. Why not say we're going to build it...how do you like it? Then assess that feedback.

[bluesrt]

maybe we should rally out front of the plant for the acr

[Snakebit10]

Love the CCB's they just need some matching Trofeo R's to make the most of it. It would be nice to see a titanium exhaust for it as well as that will be around an easy 35-40lb weight saving on top of what ever other ACR-ish weight savings even if its just an option. Options are great. Build what they want, market and price it right and you should have a winner.

[Bruce H.]

Acura asked prospective buyers to place a deposit 3(?) years ago on the new NSX to determine if there was sufficient demand for the car to be built. Two friends did just that ($8k iirc) with NSX price unknown, but est to be $85-100k. Maybe Tim should try that too. Both friends bought C7's during the long wait, but left their refundable deposits in place.

[Murpowa]

Everyone with access to Instagram, Twitter or Facebook, please take a sec to comment on Mark Trostle's lastest ACR photo with #BuildIt or something creative!

[Coloviper]

I look at it this way! If the dodge boys can't figure out on their own that they need to build it, then there is no point. A blind man on a galloping horse can see it would be a winner. Add more power and it becomes even more clear.

[VENOM V]

Love the CCB's they just need some matching Trofeo R's to make the most of it. It would be nice to see a titanium exhaust for it as well as that will be around an easy 35-40lb weight saving on top of what ever other ACR-ish weight savings even if its just an option. Options are great. Build what they want, market and price it right and you should have a winner.

Totally agree on all accounts :t1236:

EDIT: I'd still like the CCBs as options, so if someone wanted steel brakes they wouldn't have to pay the extra cashola for the CCBs. Still undecided on that subject myself.

[steve911]

See anything through the hood vents? Maybe they released pics of the car early because the hood will be up during the show displaying that awesome supercharger. One can hope right? :D

I don't believe that Dodge would put a supercharger on a mainly track oriented car. Too much heat soak on the intercooler after a few short laps pulling down power.

[Policy Limits]

Mark tweeted this angle. Wow !

[canadian viper]

they should stop tweeting and start building them.

[V1P3R]

#acrnow

[KickAsp]

Stopped by the Mopar booth this afternoon around 4:45 pm and talked to Mark Trostle. I asked if the ACR was going into production and he replied it depends on how it is received and what kind of response it generates. I really believe what he said....I don't think this is a done deal yet, merely a concept without a 100% commitment to the final product.

Out of all the new FCA cars there, he felt the ACR concept was his favorite.



Car looked fantastic, but I gotta say that the Mopar booth is always one of the darkest in the whole show. Needs to get a lot of major lighting in there IMO.

Tomorrow at 4:26 pm (Get it??....lol) there will be the Mopar press conference. It looks like they will be announcing a new sponsorship of a NHRA funny car plus other goodies. Wish I could be there to see what gets announced.

If we want this ACR to come to market, we really need to keep the interest and demand up.


If they make it, I know for sure how I am using my voucher!

[canadian viper]

Stopped by the Mopar booth this afternoon around 4:45 pm and talked to Mark Trostle. I asked if the ACR was going into production and he replied it depends on how it is received and what kind of response it generates. I really believe what he said....I don't think this is a done deal yet, merely a concept without a 100% commitment to the final product.

Out of all the new FCA cars there, he felt the ACR concept was his favorite.

Car looked fantastic, but I gotta say that the Mopar booth is always one of the darkest in the whole show. Needs to get a lot of major lighting in there IMO.

Tomorrow at 4:26 pm (Get it??....lol) there will be the Mopar press conference. It looks like they will be announcing a new sponsorship of a NHRA funny car plus other goodies. Wish I could be there to see what gets announced.

If we want this ACR to come to market, we really need to keep the interest and demand up.

any news? its past 4.26

[docwviper]

ya.... anything?

[Nemesis]

Please please build it. I'm there's.

[Victxv10]

If they make it, I know for sure how I am using my voucher!

That will cover the CCB option!

[Dan Cragin]

This ACR option is what many of our clients are looking for. Ground effects and carbon brakes will make this a good limited model. The previous ACR is the first choice for all our track orientated clients who want a street legal car that really works at the track.

Build it and they will come.

[Shooter]

I don't believe that Dodge would put a supercharger on a mainly track oriented car. Too much heat soak on the intercooler after a few short laps pulling down power.

They could make a "poser" option. Put the S/C in that.

Really though, I agree and would expect them to keep it N/A for track duty.

[kdaviper]

I don't believe that Dodge would put a supercharger on a mainly track oriented car. Too much heat soak on the intercooler after a few short laps pulling down power.

More likely is that they would add the proper equipment needed to keep the car operating at 100 percent for 20 min sessions on 100 degree days, like the Hellcat bros. This would come at a hefty weight penalty though..

[Snakebit10]

Totally agree on all accounts :t1236:

EDIT: I'd still like the CCBs as options, so if someone wanted steel brakes they wouldn't have to pay the extra cashola for the CCBs. Still undecided on that subject myself.

I concur. Options make for a wider audience to be satisfied. It would be great to have the ACR with steel brakes, reg exhaust, TF R's, AC/radio standard etc which would be more affordable...Then have the options a la carte style and NOT grouped options that would exclude the ability to pick and choose your own option packages.

Options could be the Ti exhaust, CCB's, DCT :) (DCT is a pipe dream for this gen but just threw it in there anyway lol), hardcore package (AC/Radio/sound deadening delete etc), maybe even a roll cage a la European GT3 etc, also interior and exterior accent pieces be it Carbon Fiber or color matched pieces just to add some personalization. No more racing program so they should have the funds to make all or some of this happen.

I'm not worried about the performance around the roadcourse. Dodge has proven themselves in that dept in spades. I'm worried about everything else like marketing/pricing etc though lol.

[Martin]

I have a feeling they're going to avoid making any promises about the ACR being produced until after the existing inventory is mostly gone. Things are looking good, though.

People keep mentioning the drama around anti-ACR people at FCA due to the potential conflict with Ferrari. Well, now that Ferrari is going to be spun off, that will go away and the conflict will be gone. To fill that conflict vacuum will be competition with Ferrari - exactly what Ferrari wanted to avoid while being a part of FCA. That is a very good sign for pro-ACR people.

Once stagnant inventory is gone, I agree with others that the best thing they can do to gauge interest and put production on the fast-track is to accept deposits. Make the deposits refundable until the order system is ready to take orders, and then make them non-refundable once people choose their options and get sold-orders into the system. A nice touch would be to reward people that put their cash at risk by giving them a "no hassle" price point. We've all seen how early adopters have gotten screwed by being the first to buy... If they did a "no hassle" pricing of, say, dealer invoice plus $1000 for the people who are willing to plunk down a deposit years before they can get the car, I'd be one of the people writing a check.

[Resident Alien]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw6Tl5cWIQs

[ACRucrazy]

Some nice bumpers in that video..

[98intrigue]

I didn't pay attention to anything he was saying or pointing out after I saw the blonde.

[mnc2886]

I didn't pay attention to anything he was saying or pointing out after I saw the blonde.

Well, I guess since there was so many complaints about the marketing they decided to go with the tride and true format of selling.

[BlknBlu]

cool video, hope to keep the buzz going.

Bruce

[Fatboy 18]

Tim (shmee) sure does get about, I've met him loads of times at meets in the UK. Sounds like it has his approval :)

[Snakebit10]

Tim (shmee) sure does get about, I've met him loads of times at meets in the UK. Sounds like it has his approval :)

Yep...He is well known on the highend forums. To have him drool over the ACR like this possibly bodes well for the ACR's appeal to that demographic. I really hope the sweet interior touches like the competition flag motif on the doors, alcantara everything etc make it to production. Yes its a Dodge and its an ACR but it doesnt have to ever go back to having a plain plastic interior, uninspired interior etc. I love everything about this car and we dont even know the performance specs yet lol. Cant wait to see the color combo's. Build it Dodge.

[viper04]

I didn't pay attention to anything he was saying or pointing out after I saw the blonde.
LOL!! ho my goodnesss... funny.

[VENOM V]

Toddy, George,

Any updates? Inside scoops? What was the big announcement at 4:26?

[Fatboy 18]

Time to bring back the Chicks with Vipers thread.......WE DEMAND MORE PICS! :D

[Shooter]

Once stagnant inventory is gone, I agree with others that the best thing they can do to gauge interest and put production on the fast-track is to accept deposits. Make the deposits refundable until the order system is ready to take orders, and then make them non-refundable once people choose their options and get sold-orders into the system. A nice touch would be to reward people that put their cash at risk by giving them a "no hassle" price point. We've all seen how early adopters have gotten screwed by being the first to buy... If they did a "no hassle" pricing of, say, dealer invoice plus $1000 for the people who are willing to plunk down a deposit years before they can get the car, I'd be one of the people writing a check.

This. I agree. Dodge needs people to buy the cars. What I see on these forums are a good amount of cheerleaders but not a lot of people actually walking the walk. I commend the guy's that took a chance and bought the Gen V cars right out of the gate. I also appreciate the people that really "support" the products by actually buying them. I read all these posts by people saying "do this", or "put this on it", yet they never actually pony up when it comes time to buy. You want Dodge to keep building Vipers....buy a new one.

[ACRucrazy]

I wonder why they didn't go with a wide body version similar to the GT3-R. I am sure the line up to purchase would be a mile long. :dancingman:

[FLATOUT]

I wonder why they didn't go with a wide body version similar to the GT3-R. I am sure the line up to purchase would be a mile long. :dancingman:

Probably for the same reason they didn't do it for the Gen IV or Gen II ACR's. I think a widebody would cost a bit more in tooling for a limited production model within a limited production lineup already.

[ACRucrazy]

Gen IV evolved much more than the shocks/intake tubes and wheels Gen II. At some point the ACR should evolve from suspension/brakes/wheels & bolt on aero.
I love this concept! But when I stare at my GT3-R & GTS-R desktop background on 3 monitors all day long, it sure makes the ACR (II, IV and V concept) look tame though!

[FLATOUT]

Gen IV evolved much more than the shocks/intake tubes and wheels Gen II. At some point the ACR should evolve from suspension/brakes/wheels & bolt on aero.
I love this concept! But when I stare at my GT3-R & GTS-R desktop background on 3 monitors all day long, it sure makes the ACR (II, IV and V concept) look tame though!

I agree, and also wish it would go that route I just don't see it happening.

[KB Viper]

man this is a great time to be an enthusiast

[TitleMine]

I think a widebody would cost a bit more in tooling for a limited production model within a limited production lineup already.

If they don't have the tooling/molds to make the body of the GT3R, how did they make the ones that currently exist? Couldn't they expand on that?

[GRNBGON]

man this is a great time to be an enthusiast

Not a great time to be without funds!

[Space Truckin]

This. I agree. Dodge needs people to buy the cars. What I see on these forums are a good amount of cheerleaders but not a lot of people actually walking the walk. I commend the guy's that took a chance and bought the Gen V cars right out of the gate. I also appreciate the people that really "support" the products by actually buying them. I read all these posts by people saying "do this", or "put this on it", yet they never actually pony up when it comes time to buy. You want Dodge to keep building Vipers....buy a new one.


Well said, a lot of fence sitters out there.... :t1236:

[BAD BOYZZ GARAGE]

Toddy, George,

Any updates? Inside scoops? What was the big announcement at 4:26?

Here's the "4.26" surprise announcement Todd, the new Charger Top Fuel Fuuny Car, 10,000 HP!!

Yes that's 10,000 HP..

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[Fatboy 18]

Now thats what you call a rear wing!!!!! Holy S**t

[viper04]

Nice! thanks for posting.

[BlknBlu]

is it a V-10...lol Is that the new Halo car.

Bruce

[VYPR BYT]

Here's the "4.26" surprise announcement Todd, the new Charger Top Fuel Fuuny Car, 10,000 HP!!

Yes that's 10,000 HP..

We sooo need to hear that thing growl

[VENOM V]

Thanks for posting Toddy.

Hard for me to get excited about Dodge Motorsports anything, to be honest.

Keselowski wins the NASCAR Sprint Cup. Dodge cancels program. Wittmer wins the Tudor Championship in the GTS-R, Dodge cancels the program. Dodge makes a kick ass top fuel Charger, Dodge cancels program,...

[V1P3R]

Thanks for posting Toddy.

Hard for me to get excited about Dodge Motorsports anything, to be honest.

Keselowski wins the NASCAR Sprint Cup. Dodge cancels program. Wittmer wins the Tudor Championship in the GTS-R, Dodge cancels the program. Dodge makes a kick ass top fuel Charger, Dodge cancels program,...

There does seem to be a pattern!! lol

[kdaviper]

Gen IV evolved much more than the shocks/intake tubes and wheels Gen II. At some point the ACR should evolve from suspension/brakes/wheels & bolt on aero.
I love this concept! But when I stare at my GT3-R & GTS-R desktop background on 3 monitors all day long, it sure makes the ACR (II, IV and V concept) look tame though!

You should have already known fromSRT's previous statements SRT that the ACR wasn't going to be a widebody. They've said so multiple times.

[Fatboy 18]

You should have already known fromSRT's previous statements SRT that the ACR wasn't going to be a widebody. They've said so multiple times.

They can say what they like, WE just wish it was a wide body ;)

[SilveRT8]

Just looked at the video with the Blonde....again !!!

[bluesrt]

Thanks for posting Toddy.

Hard for me to get excited about Dodge Motorsports anything, to be honest.

Keselowski wins the NASCAR Sprint Cup. Dodge cancels program. Wittmer wins the Tudor Championship in the GTS-R, Dodge cancels the program. Dodge makes a kick ass top fuel Charger, Dodge cancels program,...
so I guess they will go kick ass in that car now, they pack up tent and leave, lol

[Fatboy 18]

Here's a good colour scheme

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3840/14757714116_26ba8d768a_b.jpg

[Detlef]

Had to do a double take on that one before realizing it's from the Forza game. Looks great!

[Laidout]

Impressive job there, Fatboy! I may have to get a PS4/XBOX and current racing game so I can play with some colors and liveries.

[Nine Ball]

I read somewhere that the Viper is already at, or near, the max width allowed for a passenger car. They are already "wide body" compared to just about anything on the road. Race cars don't have to follow street car laws.

[Bruce H.]

I read that there are differential cooler ducts running from behind the side windows. Other Gen V's use that for rear brake cooling...so what are they doing for rear brake cooling on the ACR?

[Jack B]

It's a guess, but, it is almost a given, the race car has a full diff oil cooler.



I read that there are differential cooler ducts running from behind the side windows. Other Gen V's use that for rear brake cooling...so what are they doing for rear brake cooling on the ACR?

[Martin]

Just a guess, but maybe with carbon/ceramic brakes, they decided to ditch the extra cooling on the rear brakes. In any event, it's doubtful that everything we see in the concept car will end up in the production lineup. If the carbon/ceramic theory is true, and they also offer standard brakes in the option list, they'll most likely stick with the standard cooling configuration.

[Bruce H.]

Hard to say. That info was on a sign in the SEMA display, where it noted that front fascia ducts were for the CCB's and sides for the diff. Maybe they just wanted to say they had differential cooling ducts because the Z06 does :)