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Mr White
11-01-2014, 03:27 PM
before I engineer something warped and disturbing, I was wondering if someone had a clever way to get all four points off the ground.
I was considering a set of go jacks, but I am not sure if they go high enough to get jackstands under and not sagging to the ground.
21 Bubba
11-01-2014, 03:35 PM
A lift.
CarolinaViper
11-01-2014, 03:45 PM
before I engineer something warped and disturbing, I was wondering if someone had a clever way to get all four points off the ground.
I was considering a set of go jacks, but I am not sure if they go high enough to get jackstands under and not sagging to the ground.
Check this link out http://www.harborfreight.com/automotive-motorcycle/lifts-stands/6000-lb-capacity-scissor-lift-91315.html
I worry about ground clearance,reviews rated pretty good
As Bubba stated, a lift is great, and a lift with a rolling jack is even better. Do you have a budget in mind?
SA Heat
11-01-2014, 09:16 PM
before I engineer something warped and disturbing, I was wondering if someone had a clever way to get all four points off the ground.
I was considering a set of go jacks, but I am not sure if they go high enough to get jackstands under and not sagging to the ground.
I made four blocks I use to put under each wheel before I make the step up to jack stands if I need the wheels off the ground. Each block is made from three 20" long 2"x12"s screwed together with handles attached so they're easy to carry around. Sounds goofy, but it works great....makes oil changes and such easy (and safe) and getting the car off the ground to the step up to jack stands less dramatic. It's cheap too!
SA Heat
11-01-2014, 09:48 PM
Here's what one looks like....7448
Space Truckin
11-01-2014, 10:00 PM
Here's what one looks like....7448
Like your idea with woodblocks, but how do you get wheels on blocks w/o flipping blocks into rocker panel?
SA Heat
11-01-2014, 10:31 PM
I lift each corner with a jack and slide a block under the center of the tire and then lower it onto the block (actually you can lift each side and do two wheels at once since the chassis is so stiff on the Viper). I've been using them for years on multiple cars and never had a block flip or slip on the tire once there's weight on it....make sure it's in gear and/or with the parking brake on.
When I put the car back on the ground, I just reverse the process and use a jack to get the wheels off the blocks before pulling them out by the handle....definitely wouldn't attempt to drive off them.
SA Heat
11-01-2014, 10:49 PM
I think this is the only photo I have of them under a car. They gave me enough room to drain and remove the radiator on my GTS....7450
Luisv
11-01-2014, 11:21 PM
I don't quite get the question... If you are looking for a cheap safe way to go about getting the car up and removing all four wheels, then get two floor jacks and four jackstands. I have a set of six ton stands. I like them because the bases are wider as the limit goes up. The only thing you need to be sure of is that the max lift on the floor jacks is high enough to get the stands in there.
If you have more budget.... A lift. I just got one myself. Best thing I ever did!
Space Truckin
11-01-2014, 11:50 PM
Ok, I got it now. At first I thought you would drive onto the blocks.
pony23
11-02-2014, 06:22 AM
I use race ramps. They are light and relatively cheap. 56" ramps for the front with the extensions and blocks 12" blocks for the rear.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003WSZH9G?pc_redir=1414652905&robot_redir=1
http://www.amazon.com/Race-Ramps-RR-WC-12-Wheel-Crib/dp/B003ZAEUE4
Brian E
11-02-2014, 10:20 AM
I use race ramps. They are light and relatively cheap. 56" ramps for the front with the extensions and blocks 12" blocks for the rear.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003WSZH9G?pc_redir=1414652905&robot_redir=1
http://www.amazon.com/Race-Ramps-RR-WC-12-Wheel-Crib/dp/B003ZAEUE4
+1 A few years ago I bought the 2 piece RR-XT-2 67" Race Ramps and use them often. I also bought a set of the extenders and can drive the TA up on the ramps without rubbing the front splitters.
SA Heat
11-02-2014, 10:23 AM
Those ramps are perfect for getting clearance under the car, but I think the OP was wanting to find a way to get all four wheels off the ground.
Space Truckin
11-02-2014, 11:07 AM
^^^What he said^^^ and what I am looking to do also.
intense
11-02-2014, 03:14 PM
Get 4 of these scissor jacks from wally world or some such place; http://www.walmart.com/ip/Torin-Jacks-1.5-Ton-Scissor-Jack/14560046
These are pretty common so if you have an auto junk yard close by maybe get them there for $5 or $10 bucks each. One at each jack point and your set.
Brian E
11-02-2014, 03:23 PM
Those ramps are perfect for getting clearance under the car, but I think the OP was wanting to find a way to get all four wheels off the ground.
What I typically do is drive up on the race ramps and then jack up the rear and put the jack stands under the frame. I bought a set of the Esco flat top jack stands and they work great.
Mr White
11-02-2014, 05:01 PM
As Bubba stated, a lift is great, and a lift with a rolling jack is even better. Do you have a budget in mind?
My preference is to keep things to a minimum. My garage is a bit ill suited for a traditional 2 post lift, it is just a bit small. I'd like to build a bigger garage (hence said penny pinching), but I know the city wants my property so getting a permit might be a bit wooly. I have seen the scissor lifts before, but never checked to see if they were suited for sustained lifting.
I don't quite get the question... If you are looking for a cheap safe way to go about getting the car up and removing all four wheels, then get two floor jacks and four jackstands. I have a set of six ton stands. I like them because the bases are wider as the limit goes up. The only thing you need to be sure of is that the max lift on the floor jacks is high enough to get the stands in there.
If you have more budget.... A lift. I just got one myself. Best thing I ever did!
I apologize, my post was a bit impulsive and not clear, I have a habit of droning on and on if I try to think about it too long... so I just dropped it. I also thought I had a watch on the post for replies and... welp, nope.
Anyways, I live in the frozen north. About this time of year we start putting away our toys for the winter. I live in a semi rural part of suburbia (I can walk about 100 feet and be in a corn field). Storing a car off the ground has its benefits. New tires, I had hoped to keep from damaging by leaving parked for 5 months. The other part, is while I like to pretend they aren't around, but I know they are... which is critters. I have found they don't climb jackstands very well (duh!?)
I was hoping there was a trick to get the thing up in the air for the last stand. I was thinking of fabricating a brace that would go from one side to the other, and it would allow me to lift the car about 3 inches to the side and put the stand underneath the point.
TrackAire
11-02-2014, 07:40 PM
Get 4 of these scissor jacks from wally world or some such place; http://www.walmart.com/ip/Torin-Jacks-1.5-Ton-Scissor-Jack/14560046
These are pretty common so if you have an auto junk yard close by maybe get them there for $5 or $10 bucks each. One at each jack point and your set.
Bingo.
I use an electric drill with either a 5/16" or 1" socket (I own two complete sets bought 4 years apart. The newer ones use a 5/16" socket) and can lift the Viper completely off the ground in under 4 minutes without any real effort. I add a couple of jack stands in the front and rear for a total of 8 points of contact if working under the car, etc.
I use these at the track and on my 4 post lift to get all 4 tires off the ground. Total cost under $100.00
SA Heat
11-02-2014, 08:03 PM
What I typically do is drive up on the race ramps and then jack up the rear and put the jack stands under the frame. I bought a set of the Esco flat top jack stands and they work great.
I need to get some of those flat top jack stands.
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