Tomball Dodge/Viper Exchange Suspension Modification for the Gen V

[FLATOUT]

Ok so after seeing Austin's photoshop of my car lowered the other day on the new wheels I decided to figure out the best way lower the car without sacrificing performance. Ride quality doesn't usually bother me as long as it performes better (I like race cars), so I was open to different options.

First thing I looked into was the Eibach lowering springs that were used on the Gen 4's (Gen 3 carry overs), as I knew they would lower the car, but I really didn't like them on my Gen 3. Car always felt unsettled to me. Spoke with a few people and with the Gen V being 200lbs lighter than the Gen 3's and 4's and the impact that carry over spring rate would have on a Gen V car I decided to pass.

So now I am looking into fully adjustable setups which are great but I really like the stock TA setup and the push button adjustment in the cabin. I drive the car a lot and enjoy being able to put it into street mode when taking a longer trip, not to mention the cost of a fully adjustable setup.

So as luck would have it the guys at Tomball/Viper Exchange had just come out with their proprietary suspension modifiers that were developed via the SRT Motorsports team engineers in congunction with Ben Keatings GT3R Team and already tested on their (Tomball Dodge/Viper Exchange) test car. Simple design that lets up keep the factory springs, and ride quality, as well as keeping the push button adjustability of the factory system.

The fronts are lowered by 14mm (.55 inches) and 11mm (.43 inches) in the rear. Car sits just right. Not too low that it looks like some lame tuner car, but not like the factory 4X4 look either. Would have liked to have pushed the car yesterday but of course I got stuck in a major downpour on the way home.

This was Tomball/Viper Exchange's quote in my wheel thread:

Tomball/ViperExchange is now offering the suspension modifications for all Gen V Vipers, we have been testing and working with Engineers during the last season to create the perfect modification, with the help of our GT3R car and the team at SRT. The mod will be available exclusively through Tomball Dodge/ViperExchange , the installs will begin this upcoming week, for more information you can reach out to Nathan Dainton at Tomball 281-351-2000.

We have had them installed a 14 TA for several weeks and they not only help the ride quality but also improve the appearance

And here are some quick pictures from yesterday:

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3839/15071621030_4cc0669b54_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/125600825@N07/15071621030/)
Untitled (https://www.flickr.com/photos/125600825@N07/15071621030/) by mrandrewwheeler (https://www.flickr.com/people/125600825@N07/), on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5596/15071614650_99b82c41ec_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/125600825@N07/15071614650/)
Untitled (https://www.flickr.com/photos/125600825@N07/15071614650/) by mrandrewwheeler (https://www.flickr.com/people/125600825@N07/), on Flickr

FACTORY:

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5582/15073914717_aa543fc9b9_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/125600825@N07/15073914717/)
Untitled (https://www.flickr.com/photos/125600825@N07/15073914717/) by mrandrewwheeler (https://www.flickr.com/people/125600825@N07/), on Flickr

TOMBALL:

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3895/15073927997_c5bc8bbbc6_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/125600825@N07/15073927997/)
Untitled (https://www.flickr.com/photos/125600825@N07/15073927997/) by mrandrewwheeler (https://www.flickr.com/people/125600825@N07/), on Flickr

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3858/15237485436_dee4b85ec2_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/125600825@N07/15237485436/)
Untitled (https://www.flickr.com/photos/125600825@N07/15237485436/) by mrandrewwheeler (https://www.flickr.com/people/125600825@N07/), on Flickr

[FLATOUT]

Sorry for the crappy cell phone pic's, and no I didn't get any pictures of the car lowered yesterday due to the excessive rain. I need to get the car cleaned up for the COTA race this weekend though so I will try to at least get some more cell pic's over the weekend.

Andy

[bluesrt]

approx. how much are the lower caps, and did they remove the shock to install? did they do a alighnment after?

[FLATOUT]

approx. how much are the lower caps, and did they remove the shock to install? did they do a alighnment after?

You'll have to call Nathan Dainton at Tomball 281-351-2000. This is probably the first time I have let anyone touch or work on a Viper of mine in the last 5 years outside of a tune, so I can't give you any more info than what I already posted.

[Nine Ball]

I took some pics before the rain hit. While it isn't slammed, I like the subtle drop. Especially to level out the front grand canyon wheel gap they usually have. I will likely do the same thing. I would never want to get rid of the badass electric shocks.

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr29/ynotdv8/2013%20Viper/Gallery/lowered2.jpg (http://s466.photobucket.com/user/ynotdv8/media/2013%20Viper/Gallery/lowered2.jpg.html)

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr29/ynotdv8/2013%20Viper/Gallery/lowered1.jpg (http://s466.photobucket.com/user/ynotdv8/media/2013%20Viper/Gallery/lowered1.jpg.html)

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approx. how much are the lower caps, and did they remove the shock to install? did they do a alighnment after?

They will not be selling the caps separately. Only installed.

[FLATOUT]

Thanks Tony, and great seeing you there. It did settle lower on the way home.

[Nine Ball]

Sweet. How were the R888's in the rain?

[FLATOUT]

Sweet. How were the R888's in the rain?

HAHA "Exciting" :D. I put it in rain mode and the car was fine. I think with moderate rain they would be good, but there was some standing water that I definitely slowed way down for lol.

[VENOM V]

Looks like a nice clean easy solution. I spoke with Ben about this at Viper Homecoming. He was very vague on how they lower the car. Now that I see that it's just caps, seems like a simple solution. Why won't they sell the caps separately? It looks like any competent shop could install them. No way I would ship my car to Texas and back just for that.

[bluesrt]

:(ahhhh geeze...

[Brian GTS]

Very cool. IMO, this is all that was needed. On mine, the front gap is more than the rear....so glad to see the front is dropped more than the rear with these caps....even if only a little bit.

Although, I am disappointed they won't be selling these....only an installed price? Is that truly the case?

[Malu59RT]

Looks good Andy! I prefer spring caps to Eibach's, and don't want to lose the dual mode suspension also. Hope Tomball posts a little more information and maybe networks with other local dealers to sell it.

[tmcphail]

Are your R888's super noisy ? I had those on another car and they screamed due to the pattern.

[FLATOUT]

I am going to talk to Ben about it this weekend, as it's not a perfect solution for the community or Tomball (I don't think they realize how much potential business there is in the parts sale). I understand the concept of keeping it exclusive to their dealership network but it's just not something you are going to ship a car down for. My hope is if they won't sell the parts directly maybe we can work something out with sending your coilovers in for a quick install and turnaround. That being said these guys have a bunch of money tied up in R&D for aftermarket parts for the Gen V so I cerntainly understand their position as well.


Looks like a nice clean easy solution. I spoke with Ben about this at Viper Homecoming. He was very vague on how they lower the car. Now that I see that it's just caps, seems like a simple solution. Why won't they sell the caps separately? It looks like any competent shop could install them. No way I would ship my car to Texas and back just for that.


:(ahhhh geeze...


Very cool. IMO, this is all that was needed. On mine, the front gap is more than the rear....so glad to see the front is dropped more than the rear with these caps....even if only a little bit.

Although, I am disappointed they won't be selling these....only an installed price? Is that truly the case?


Looks good Andy! I prefer spring caps to Eibach's, and don't want to lose the dual mode suspension also. Hope Tomball posts a little more information and maybe networks with other local dealers to sell it.

[FLATOUT]

Are your R888's super noisy ? I had those on another car and they screamed due to the pattern.

Louder than the Corsa's yes but not crazy noisy like the old Yoko A032R's were.

BRO! You get a TA? Oh Damn!

[Brian GTS]

I am going to talk to Ben about it this weekend, as it's not a perfect solution for the community or Tomball (I don't think they realize how much potential business there is in the parts sale). I understand the concept of keeping it exclusive to their dealership network but it's just not something you are going to ship a car down for. My hope is if they won't sell the parts directly maybe we can work something out with sending your coilovers in for a quick install and turnaround. That being said these guys have a bunch of money tied up in R&D for aftermarket parts for the Gen V so I cerntainly understand their position as well.

Yes, definitely talk to them about it. I've installed caps on my Gen II's and III....easy task. Personally, I would not be interested in shipping my car or suspension parts to TX for installation. Just price them accordingly for R&D. Agreed there would undoubtedly be much more volume sales if they sold the parts.

[FLATOUT]

Yes, definitely talk to them about it. I've installed caps on my Gen II's and III....easy task. Personally, I would not be interested in shipping my car or suspension parts to TX for installation. Just price them accordingly for R&D. Agreed there would undoubtedly be much more volume sales if they sold the parts.

Will do.

[VENOM V]

Thanks Andy. Small sales like this can lead to bigger sales in the future. A bunch of us will be using our $15K vouchers down the road. Building relationships with potential customers would benefit Viper Exchange more than the additional profit they will make on labor installing these caps.

[FLATOUT]

Thanks Andy. Small sales like this can lead to bigger sales in the future. A bunch of us will be using our $15K vouchers down the road. Building relationships with potential customers would benefit Viper Exchange more than the additional profit they will make on labor installing these caps.

I agree, and I just want them to be available to everyone (thinking about people out of state), even if they need to price them slightly higher to recoupe R&D costs. Do you potentially sell 20-30 sets + install and labor, or 200-300 sets at a good margin that people all over the country can snatch up.

Regardless they aren't the regular old caps, and I can tell Ben takes great pride in the development and testing that went into them. Suspension Modification or Modifiers is what they call them and they are coated for corrosion resistance and completely resemble a factory part.

[Cdubb]

Are your R888's super noisy ? I had those on another car and they screamed due to the pattern.

I'm with you, way too noisy!

[Austin]

Andy, the car looks great! Loving these two shots. Any chance you could upload the larger versions to your Flickr?:D Please.




I took some pics before the rain hit. While it isn't slammed, I like the subtle drop. Especially to level out the front grand canyon wheel gap they usually have. I will likely do the same thing. I would never want to get rid of the badass electric shocks.

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr29/ynotdv8/2013%20Viper/Gallery/lowered2.jpg (http://s466.photobucket.com/user/ynotdv8/media/2013%20Viper/Gallery/lowered2.jpg.html)

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr29/ynotdv8/2013%20Viper/Gallery/lowered1.jpg (http://s466.photobucket.com/user/ynotdv8/media/2013%20Viper/Gallery/lowered1.jpg.html)

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They will not be selling the caps separately. Only installed.

[FLATOUT]

Hey Austin, Tony took those with his cell phone. I'll get some shots with it cleaned up now that the suspension has fully settled.


Andy, the car looks great! Loving these two shots. Any chance you could upload the larger versions to your Flickr?:D Please.

[Simms]

Thanks for posting Andy!

I was ready to call them right now until I read they had to be installed at Tomball (I'm in Pittsburgh). As others have said, I hope something else can be worked out. Just too far and costly to ship for caps.

[FLATOUT]

Noted, I'll see what he says this weekend.


Thanks for posting Andy!

I was ready to call them right now until I read they had to be installed at Tomball (I'm in Pittsburgh). As others have said, I hope something else can be worked out. Just too far and costly to ship for caps.

[Tiago]

looks like they could easily make bigger drop options?

[bluesrt]

group buy!!!! im in................ I need some

[Cdubb]

looks like they could easily make bigger drop options?

MCS, KW, Motons all work but leaving the factory electronic suspension is what most want to do including myself.

[XSnake]

Nice product, but if you have to jump through hoops to buy it then kind of pointless. It's only a matter of time before someone makes some. They are first to the market, they need to capitalize!!!

[Bugeater]

What Matt said. They are coilover spring perches (caps). If they wont sell them without you sending your car you could take that picture and have them custom made.

[FLATOUT]

group buy!!!! im in................ I need some

Good idea.

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

Nice product, but if you have to jump through hoops to buy it then kind of pointless. It's only a matter of time before someone makes some. They are first to the market, they need to capitalize!!!


You must be peeking into our machine shop?

[FLATOUT]

Nice product, but if you have to jump through hoops to buy it then kind of pointless. It's only a matter of time before someone makes some. They are first to the market, they need to capitalize!!!

That's what I told them.

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You must be peeking into our machine shop?

When did you build a machine shop?

[cashcorn]

Yes! I'm In. A group buy.

[BDZ1984]

Im in as well!

[VENOM V]

I'd likely be in for a group buy as well, depending on price.

[Tomball-Dodge]

We have read your posts and listened to your request and are going to sell the Lowering Caps to the Viper public as requested for $450.00 a set.

Technical questions will be directed to Nathan Dainton at the shop 281-351-2000.

Please understand we have an investment in engineering, tooling/manufacturing, and testing. There was a lot of time and efforts through the race engineers that helped develop the changes. This is not some cheap bolt on, but rather a product that has been tested to withstand the rigors of the typical Viper driver.

And we have taken the added step of having the parts treated so that they look great 2 years from now as well. We started out with the goal of lowering a car. However, we ended up with a lowered car that has a better ride quality. The issue is that each of the Viper damper choices are designed to work with a specific spring set.There are different springs on the SRT, and the GTS, and the TA. They are all unique.If you change springs, then your ride quality will suffer. That is why we are so excited about what we designed.

Several have asked and alignments are recommended.

The parts will be available beginning Tuesday of next week. You can email us through the web. The parts will be sold through our parts department and you will have to call them beginning Tuesday. Please don't call anytime prior as we are at COTA this weekend and no one will be able to assist. Also watch the race on Fox Sports Sunday hopefully we will bring home a win.

Thank you again for comments and look forward to hearing from each and everyone of you!

[Shooter]

Excellent. I'll be getting a set now.

[VENOM V]

Thanks for listening! I'm in, I'll order up a set next week.

[hova00]

Just in time for my new T/A not that my Gen V GTS wouldn't have looked better with these. Thanks for bringing these to market and will be looking to do this mod at some point.

[Simms]

I'm in!!!

[cashcorn]

Tomball-Dodge. You guys Rock! thanks

[Bruce H.]

This is not some cheap bolt on, but rather a product that has been tested to withstand the rigors of the typical Viper driver.

Will they withstand the rigors of track rats? Are you saying they provide better than stock ride quality, and if so, how can that be? Thanks for making them available to all.

Good luck to the team this weekend!

Bruce

[FLATOUT]

Bruce you of all people should be on board with this, these were designed by the race team engineers and I know how much that means to you.

I can tell you that my car sits perfect.

BTW Thanks Bernie and Ben for listening to the community I fully believe this business model will be more profitable for you and better for the Viper community. There will always be cheaper imitations but only one set that was designed by the factory race team engineers. That alone will always add value to the product.


Will they withstand the rigors of track rats? Are you saying they provide better than stock ride quality, and if so, how can that be? Thanks for making them available to all.

Good luck to the team this weekend!

Bruce

[ViperSmith]

Great idea to open it up. $450 ain't cheap but gotta pay to play!

[Bruce H.]

Bruce you of all people should be on board with this, these were designed by the race team engineers and I know how much that means to you.

They won't work for me personally on track unfortunately as I already scrape the splitters on two tracks with unusually demanding braking zones that are combined with some cornering. I could lower mine and be okay braking hard or cornering hard, but not both simultaneously as is the case at both Mosport (T5a) and Le Circuit Mont Tremblant (Namarrow corner) where you're braking into a hill and turning at the same time, with extreme loading of one front corner. I'd need much stiffer spring rates all around to counter that. Grippier tires and/or brakes, or extended TA 2.0 splitter will make the situation even worse in the future. If I wasn't tracking the car in the future these would be perfect for a nicer stance, and curious if the ride quality is improved.

[FLATOUT]

Well I track mine plenty as do several other guys in this thread. I'll let you know if we run into issues.

[2doorrocket]

Well I track mine plenty as do several other guys in this thread. I'll let you know if we run into issues.

Do you think you can get me a picture of the original and the new one? Before I spend 1. 2. 3. kits worth of dough

[FLATOUT]

Do you think you can get me a picture of the original and the new one? Before I spend 1. 2. 3. kits worth of dough

Picture of the new ride height? Sure I'll get some this weekend at COTA.

[2doorrocket]

Picture of the new ride height? Sure I'll get some this weekend at COTA.

The new ride height and the spacers.... Ya feel me doe braaaaa?

[VENOM V]

They won't work for me personally on track unfortunately as I already scrape the splitters on two tracks with unusually demanding braking zones that are combined with some cornering. I could lower mine and be okay braking hard or cornering hard, but not both simultaneously as is the case at both Mosport (T5a) and Le Circuit Mont Tremblant (Namarrow corner) where you're braking into a hill and turning at the same time, with extreme loading of one front corner. I'd need much stiffer spring rates all around to counter that. Grippier tires and/or brakes, or extended TA 2.0 splitter will make the situation even worse in the future. If I wasn't tracking the car in the future these would be perfect for a nicer stance, and curious if the ride quality is improved.

That is a good point, Bruce. When I hit the corkscrew at Laguna Seca for example, the suspension fully compresses. I busted off one of my air deflectors (the little vertical black plastic pieces in front of the front tires, which are not supposed to be used with the splitters). I didn't have the splitters installed when this picture was taken, but I will this weekend. 17 Vipers at Laguna Seca, it's gonna be a kick!

[FLATOUT]

The new ride height and the spacers.... Ya feel me doe braaaaa?

Look at the first post in this thread.

[ViperSmith]

You are seriously not selling this as something that you can ship and I can install myself???????????????????????????????? That's seriously going to limit your customer base (myself included).

They are now :)

[FLATOUT]

You are seriously not selling this as something that you can ship and I can install myself???????????????????????????????? That's seriously going to limit your customer base (myself included).

As said above, yes they are now. BTW as they mentioned above, they are at COTA racing this weekend and I know they are already there prepping for the race so Nathan is the guy to call to place your orders.

Andy

[FLATOUT]

Guys you can call Nathan to order on this line as well (his cell).

Nathan @ Tomball Dodge/Viper Exchange
(832)441-2965

Easier to get ahold of him on this number sometimes.

[Simms]

Guys you can call Nathan to order on this line as well (his cell).

Nathan @ Tomball Dodge/Viper Exchange
(832)441-2965

Easier to get ahold of him on this number sometimes.

Do we have to wait till next Tuesday?

[FLATOUT]

Do we have to wait till next Tuesday?

Nathan should be there today to take an order. Bernie and Ben are at COTA but I would think Nathan would be at the dealership.

[Simms]

Thanks man!

[FLATOUT]

BTW someone had a question about whether these were stock units that were just machined down. They are not, these are completly new, machined pieces.

[steve911]

They will not be selling the caps separately. Only installed.[/QUOTE]

I wonder why they wouldnt sell them seperately? It's not rocket science to change caps....

[XSnake]

They will not be selling the caps separately. Only installed.
I wonder why they wouldnt sell them seperately? It's not rocket science to change caps....

They changed their minds and you may call and order caps on Tuesday. Info in this thread.

[mblgjr]

Great idea.

Just reduces the preload thus dropping the car on stock springs.

Nice quality; simple solution.

[SilveRT8]

Great idea.

Just reduces the preload thus dropping the car on stock springs.

Nice quality; simple solution.

Is this why there's talk about better ride quality ?

[EdwardETraylorIII]

Thanks guys! They should probably go back and edit that post so that folks, like myself, don't see that, then skip the rest of the tread and just hit reply and bitch about them not selling outright.

Great news on the change of heart!

I was getting the mill ready to make my own! Glad they are now available!

Flatout, thanks for the contact info!

[Simms]

Caps ordered! Pleasure dealing with Tomball.

Does anyone know the alignment specs for after the install?

[FLATOUT]

Morning guys, congrats Simms. I know they recommend an alignment but that's only if it needs it after install. I know when Morgan installed mine at Tomball that he mentioned that everything was in spec when the install was completed.

[pdv25]

Andy, do you have any other pics of the car? All I've seen are the ones Tony posted.

[FLATOUT]

Andy, do you have any other pics of the car? All I've seen are the ones Tony posted.

No new ones yet, I need to get a camera on it. Hopefully I'll get out tomorrow.

[Simms]

Morning guys, congrats Simms. I know they recommend an alignment but that's only if it needs it after install. I know when Morgan installed mine at Tomball that he mentioned that everything was in spec when the install was completed.

Does Morgan just use a coil spring compressor? Does he even take them off the car?

[FLATOUT]

Does Morgan just use a coil spring compressor? Does he even take them off the car?

No idea, at the time they weren't letting people install them themselves, so I just dropped it off and picked it up.

[MtnBiker]

A few photos of recent SRT lowered at Tomball Dodge/Viper Exchange:

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q593/MtnBiker8/Viper/GenV/lowered2_zpsfe9643e0.jpg (http://s1165.photobucket.com/user/MtnBiker8/media/Viper/GenV/lowered2_zpsfe9643e0.jpg.html)

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q593/MtnBiker8/Viper/GenV/lowered4_zpsa414e20a.jpg (http://s1165.photobucket.com/user/MtnBiker8/media/Viper/GenV/lowered4_zpsa414e20a.jpg.html)

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q593/MtnBiker8/Viper/GenV/lowered3_zpsd098edf0.jpg (http://s1165.photobucket.com/user/MtnBiker8/media/Viper/GenV/lowered3_zpsd098edf0.jpg.html)

http://i1165.photobucket.com/albums/q593/MtnBiker8/Viper/GenV/lowered1_zpsa7d82708.jpg (http://s1165.photobucket.com/user/MtnBiker8/media/Viper/GenV/lowered1_zpsa7d82708.jpg.html)

It looks so darn good (minus the dirt).

[mblgjr]

Is this why there's talk about better ride quality ?

I guess its "better" than using high rate aftermarket springs.

I dont see how the ride will be any "better" than stock given youre still using stock springs. Basically this will give the car a small drop while maintaining ride quality as close to stock as humanly possible.

[SilveRT8]

Is this car new ? As mine seems to sit a bit lower than this stock, 2 fingers on top of tire front and back, 5,000mi.

[DPViper]

Did Jon B ever come out with spring caps for the Gen 5? I see his price on previous gens is $159. Thanks

[bluesrt]

Is this car new ? As mine seems to sit a bit lower than this stock, 2 fingers on top of tire front and back, 5,000mi.

wow, you buy it new? maybe Canada cars are different, no way a gen v sits that low from new, much less any other years

[ViperSmith]

The suspension def settles down a bit after miles on it.

[SilveRT8]

wow, you buy it new? maybe Canada cars are different, no way a gen v sits that low from new, much less any other years

Yes, bought new 14 months ago, 5000 miles and 5 track days
It did sank down as I remember I could fit 3 fingers in the back and now it's only 2, so I guess with the lower caps it would lokk killer !

[bluesrt]

yuuuuup! I got some!!!! for my t/a

[MtnBiker]

I had my Gen IV next to the black gen V and my Gen IV was much higher. Looked like it was ready to 4 wheel compared to the Gen V. I should have snapped the comparo shot.

[Nemesis]

This was exactly the question I was about to pose but you answered it. The track I run at has over 200ft of total elevation change and have run into the same issue at stock height on my TA of grinding the splitters into the ground. I now see I won't be able to put these on my TA, but plan on putting them on my '13 GTS. Thank you for the insight Venom.


That is a good point, Bruce. When I hit the corkscrew at Laguna Seca for example, the suspension fully compresses. I busted off one of my air deflectors (the little vertical black plastic pieces in front of the front tires, which are not supposed to be used with the splitters). I didn't have the splitters installed when this picture was taken, but I will this weekend. 17 Vipers at Laguna Seca, it's gonna be a kick!

[FLATOUT]

This was exactly the question I was about to pose but you answered it. The track I run at has over 200ft of total elevation change and have run into the same issue at stock height on my TA of grinding the splitters into the ground. I now see I won't be able to put these on my TA, but plan on putting them on my '13 GTS. Thank you for the insight Venom.

Question, are you guys scraping the underside of your actual front splitters (the rub strips), or the black rectangle that tack on to the front bottom of the wheel well?

[Bruce H.]

Question, are you guys scraping the underside of your actual front splitters (the rub strips), or the black rectangle that tack on to the front bottom of the wheel well?

In my case, both, and when we removed the rectangular tire spats weeks ago the left side was worn down ~3/4". We were looking at my splitter wear strips on a hoist last week and the left side is being very smoothly ground down also, and almost back to where the retaining screws heads are. It only rubs in one very demanding brake zone on my home track where the car is braking into a rise as it is also turning right, loading the front left beyond what you could do on a level or even banked corner perhaps. I can't imagine what the TA 2.0's extended splitter wear strips would look like unless they change the spring rates also. Three other tracks haven't presented this extreme challenge, although I suspect with a 1/2" drop that scraping might happen around more tracks, particularly when running grippier tires that will load the suspension more. Light scuffing on track at stock or lowered ride height is unlikely to cause a problem with handling, the wear strips are replaceable, but clearing driveway and road construction stuff is already a serious challenge.

[cashcorn]

Just placed my order.. Nathan @ Tomball Dodge/Viper Exchange
(832)441-2965

[Bruce]

Had the caps installed before the club's Car Control Clinic the weekend before last, car ran great, handled very good, no issues, no scrubbing ( I already took off the square plastic air deflectors long time ago). Rear fender gap is perfect, front is still a little too much to my taste, but once the OEM tires wear out, taller R888's will probably fix it.

[FLATOUT]

Bruce I have R888's in stock sizes on my car and it looks good.

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Just placed my order.. Nathan @ Tomball Dodge/Viper Exchange
(832)441-2965

Need before and after shots after it settles:)

[KB Viper]

We have read your posts and listened to your request and are going to sell the Lowering Caps to the Viper public as requested for $450.00 a set.

Technical questions will be directed to Nathan Dainton at the shop 281-351-2000.

Please understand we have an investment in engineering, tooling/manufacturing, and testing. There was a lot of time and efforts through the race engineers that helped develop the changes. This is not some cheap bolt on, but rather a product that has been tested to withstand the rigors of the typical Viper driver.

And we have taken the added step of having the parts treated so that they look great 2 years from now as well. We started out with the goal of lowering a car. However, we ended up with a lowered car that has a better ride quality. The issue is that each of the Viper damper choices are designed to work with a specific spring set.There are different springs on the SRT, and the GTS, and the TA. They are all unique.If you change springs, then your ride quality will suffer. That is why we are so excited about what we designed.

Several have asked and alignments are recommended.

The parts will be available beginning Tuesday of next week. You can email us through the web. The parts will be sold through our parts department and you will have to call them beginning Tuesday. Please don't call anytime prior as we are at COTA this weekend and no one will be able to assist. Also watch the race on Fox Sports Sunday hopefully we will bring home a win.

Thank you again for comments and look forward to hearing from each and everyone of you!

are these in stock ready to ship?

[outnumbered]

Got to get a set of these. I am assuming there would be no issues on a GTS?

[FLATOUT]

Got to get a set of these. I am assuming there would be no issues on a GTS?

Correct, no issues.

[outnumbered]

Ordered mine today.

[FLATOUT]

Zero issue with any scraping on track with my TA at COTA this last weekend. I drove the car very hard and had zero issues.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7563/15847103997_506af97a72_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/125600825@N07/15847103997/)
FLATOUT TA COTA (https://www.flickr.com/photos/125600825@N07/15847103997/) by mrandrewwheeler (https://www.flickr.com/people/125600825@N07/), on Flickr

[triblk6spd]

Hey all I ordered a set of these today. Can anyone delve into the install a bit?

[sharmut]

Curious to know regarding installation as well.

[mjorgensen]

Hey all I ordered a set of these today. Can anyone delve into the install a bit?

Pull shock, compress spring enough to remove top cap and install the new one, reinstall, tighten all suspension bolts with the weight on the car and then re align.

[FLATOUT]

Pull shock, compress spring enough to remove top cap and install the new one, reinstall, tighten all suspension bolts with the weight on the car and then re align.

Thanks Mark!

[Ripper]

Zero issue with any scraping on track with my TA at COTA this last weekend. I drove the car very hard and had zero issues.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7563/15847103997_506af97a72_b.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/125600825@N07/15847103997/)
FLATOUT TA COTA (https://www.flickr.com/photos/125600825@N07/15847103997/) by mrandrewwheeler (https://www.flickr.com/people/125600825@N07/), on Flickr



Car Looks Awesome Andy !!

[jjrho]

so….how much are these caps ?
can i take the oem caps and cut em down ? :t0135:

[Ryanr206]

I like this spring cap idea. I do wish they had an option for a full 1 or 1.5" drop. It would be nice to tighten that wheel gap up a tad More. I'm no road course guy. So that aspect isn't a worry.

[mjorgensen]

so….how much are these caps ?
can i take the oem caps and cut em down ? :t0135:

No, the material is to weak and the outer edge will not support the weight, these were made of better materials to allow the drop they are not just cut down. I think they sell them for $475.

[jjrho]

Ok... makes sense.... car does look better than oem.... I think bruce here in so cal. Did something like it n had dan C. Install em.... will have to do that... after I get my front drivers side leaked out shock replaced first...

[Dan Cragin]

I had good luck installing these lowering caps. I do have a couple suggestions from my installations. The rear shocks will require a "helper spring" to keep the rear spring from unloading on bumps or when lifted on a hoist. The rear spring can lose its index for the bottom of the spring where it seats, this can cause the spring to rotate and fall out of the seat. The ride height changes and you get a popping noise.

You need to realign the car after installing these caps and you must re-bump steer the rear of the car. The bump steer on the rear of the car changes significantly, the rear toe link on the Gen 5 is so short, even the smallest change in height will make the car rear steer. You can feel a dramatic improvement after doing this.

My thoughts, yours may differ.

[BLUETA#1]

where did you source the rear helper spring?

[Simms]

I had good luck installing these lowering caps. I do have a couple suggestions from my installations. The rear shocks will require a "helper spring" to keep the rear spring from unloading on bumps or when lifted on a hoist. The rear spring can lose its index for the bottom of the spring where it seats, this can cause the spring to rotate and fall out of the seat. The ride height changes and you get a popping noise.

You need to realign the car after installing these caps and you must re-bump steer the rear of the car. The bump steer on the rear of the car changes significantly, the rear toe link on the Gen 5 is so short, even the smallest change in height will make the car rear steer. You can feel a dramatic improvement after doing this.

My thoughts, yours may differ.

When installing the caps on my rear shocks, there appears to be a little play, the caps are loose. Is this normal and will be eliminated once the shock is loaded?

Thanks

[mjorgensen]

Answered the other thread for you.

[slovenom]

Looks really awesome! !

[Simms]

Answered the other thread for you.

Thank you Sir.

[ddominator1]

As of yet Any one put these on a TA 2.0. Should have mine in june and thinking about purchase. Would my dealer be able to install as Doesn't seem too complicated

[mjorgensen]

As of yet Any one put these on a TA 2.0. Should have mine in june and thinking about purchase. Would my dealer be able to install as Doesn't seem too complicated

Yes and yes they are easy to swap, but the shop needs to do an alignment that includes the rear toe pattern being reset to insure the pattern is the same side to side.

[Victxv10]

As of yet Any one put these on a TA 2.0. Should have mine in june and thinking about purchase. Would my dealer be able to install as Doesn't seem too complicated

Yes,
http://driveviper.com/forums/threads/7795-Viper-Exchange-lowering-caps-installed

[ddominator1]

Thanks guys !