What the hell is wrong with people!!!

[CSXT802]

Well I have to vent. I drove my GTS to work today for the first time this year. (I only take it to work a few times each year) . On my way home driving through the Delaware water gap park (route 209). I come up behind a some clapped out subaru out back with some woman driving window open arm hanging out. Now she is erratic with her speed. Below the speed limit, up to the speed and back down again . After 2 miles of this, I come to a straight section with a good line of sight.
I down shifted to 3rd rolled into the throttle to pass her, well apparently this woman decided I didn't have the right to pass . This fucking asshole deliberately drives her car over into the other lane to block me nearly clipping the front of my car and forcing me over to the shoulder. So now I'm in a full fucking rage because I can't risk another pass and i see her laughing in her side view mirror. Well we come to a four way inter section and catch the red light. I yanked up the E-brake handle, unbuckle the belt and as I reach for the door handle the voice of reason goes off saying " you have to get the kids off the school bus" . So I reluctantly gave this fucktard a pass , made a turn at the intersection and took a different route home.

Now can someone tell me what is the thought process behind someone not letting another car pass them? If someone is driving faster than me (which is rare) I let them go, because if your passing me you must really have to get some where. Im still bothered by this, because 10 years ago (before having kids) I would have made the other choice. Gotten out of the car and left the other person bleeding in the street. I hope she tries this to someone else and ends up in the woods in the process . Why am I sitting here 2nd guessing my decision? :furious:

[daveg]

If you were passing legally, you should have gotten the plate and called the police. That's driving to endanger!

[SlateEd]

Jealous and ignorant and not worried about consequences... unfortunately all too common.

The fact that she was laughing about it shows all 3 elements I think.

no need to second guess yourself though. You will almost always have more to lose than to gain when dealing with an idiot.

[C.J]

Perhaps she is the center of her universe as well as its master and creator.

Or she just nuts...hard to tell.

But you did right by staying clear of her. After all, what does she have to lose?

Folks like that make forgiveness very, very difficult.

[CSXT802]

If you were passing legally, you should have gotten the plate and called the police. That's driving to endanger!
Thought of that after the fact. head clouded with anger. just wounder if she would have done the same thing if i were in my daily driver.

[C.J]

BTW, love your GTS' color combo!

[daveg]

just wounder if she would have done the same thing if i were in my daily driver.Hard telling not knowing!

[NI-KA]

Better to steer clear.

[CSXT802]

Thank you.

[CSXT802]

I've owned the car since April of 2011 and this is a first for me with this car. Not the kind of attention I want when I drive it. I can see why cars turn into garage queens..

[MI Viper]

She is just jealous that she was driving some sh!t box, and you were going pass her in a "supercar"! Besides, there isn't anything you could do to her since she was "female". Now if it is a "Male", game on.......

[daveg]

PS, Driving to endanger here in Mass is not a ticket but a court appearance.. Ask me how I know....

[Viktimize]

Nothing wrong with getting out to inform someone of the danger they are creating. Just because you are getting out does not mean you have to pummel someones brains in(even though that's what we want to do quite often)

[ViperSmith]

I installed a dash cam in my car because other people do stupid things around these cars...

[Mr White]

:furious:

Well, you know... us viper owners are poorly endowed, entitled corporate fat cats who never had to earn any of our own money. We could never understand the sacrifice and suffering of a hard day's work...

;)

Anyways, after I'm finished being choked to death by my own sarcasm. I want to share a technique for expressing distaste for someone being a jerk on the road. Flipping them off is just an acknowledgement of a moral victory, this is so much more effective.
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/64/Gladiator_Thumb_Down_01.gif

People like that are why I want to put in some kind of dash cam.

Some other techniques I have mastered, for messing with people, is waving to them like an idiot. I pretend like I don't realize they are being bholes. If their actions are extremely deliberate, especially when I am driving my DD they floor it just to cut me off and I meet them at the next light... I do the "oh man, you really got me. I never saw that coming." and I just lay it on real thick. Everyone here is so passive-aggressive that forcing them to acknowledge that I am a human being makes them feel extremely tiny.

[CSXT802]

Well, you know... us viper owners are poorly endowed, entitled corporate fat cats who never had to earn any of our own money. We could never understand the sacrifice and suffering of a hard day's work...

;)

Anyways, after I'm finished being choked to death by my own sarcasm. I want to share a technique for expressing distaste for someone being a jerk on the road. Flipping them off is just an acknowledgement of a moral victory, this is so much more effective.
http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/64/Gladiator_Thumb_Down_01.gif

People like that are why I want to put in some kind of dash cam.

Some other techniques I have mastered, for messing with people, is waving to them like an idiot. I pretend like I don't realize they are being bholes. If their actions are extremely deliberate, especially when I am driving my DD they floor it just to cut me off and I meet them at the next light... I do the "oh man, you really got me. I never saw that coming." and I just lay it on real thick. Everyone here is so passive-aggressive that forcing them to acknowledge that I am a human being makes them feel extremely tiny.
That's the thing I've waited and worked along time to buy this car. I'm not wealthy by any means. I'm like every viper owner I've met since I joined, everyone works for what they have regardless of income level.

[MACH4444]

Some people are just assholes. I have a dash cam, actually a contour action cam, that I keep in my vehicles to record with in case I see any interesting things while driving. It also makes a great dash cam. If someone is being a d**k or I suspect that they may be, I turn it on and make sure I capture them. It's even better when I can stick it right in their face to let them know they are on camera. You would be surprised how their attitudes change when they know they are on camera. I consider them lucky. Better to get shot by my action cam than my .45.....

It also saved me from a ticket when a state cop in S.carolina stopped me for " weaving". She was chasing another car that pulled a smokey and the bandit and got off the exit before she could get to them. I saw she was pissed , I was in front of her and I had out of state plates. She pulled me over, told me she stopped me for weaving. I let her know up front that I had a camera going and if she wanted to we could review the video to see if I was indeed weaving, which I wasn't. She let me go without another word. She was still pissed but so what. If not for the camera rolling she would have tried to screw me.

[Mr White]

That's the thing I've waited and worked along time to buy this car. I'm not wealthy by any means. I'm like every viper owner I've met since I joined, everyone works for what they have regardless of income level.

Same here brother, it's easy for people to make presumptions based on an indulgence (hence the sarcasm). That's why when people stare at me, I wave to them. When someone says "hey, nice car", I say "thanks, it's really fun to drive!" If someone takes a picture, I make a funny face or smile.

[Track Pack]

kept your cool, good for you, nothing good would have come by responding. she would not have been rational anyways.

[dodgestang]

I'm still trying to figure out why you weren't passing in second....and what was wrong with the shoulder ;)

[Slaughterj]

Some people are just assholes. I have a dash cam, actually a contour action cam


What model?

[det000]

I had a similar experience in my car. Sitting behind some beat up old econo box turning right at a red light, the light goes green and the car is sitting there. I'm not quick to honk so I waited a few seconds, then realizing they clearly weren't paying attention, I gave a quick tap on the horn, trying to be as courteous as possible. They turn right, I follow but not sticking to their ass. The road we turn onto has three lanes. I switch out from the right lane to the center lane and gas it, they cut over in front of me. I switched one more to the left lane and they jump in front of me again. I switch back to the center and they cut back into the center. At this point I knew they were doing it intentionally, probably pissed about the honking thing and the fact I'm in a nice car. I could've punched it and easily squeezed by them but I figured, screw it, this person clearly has issues and I have more to lose than they do if they try to ram into me. Beside, let them have their road rage. I'm happy here cruising in my car. I'm not going to let them ruin it for me.

[City]

Have a Viper in NYC grants me time with exactly this kind of ignorance quite often. After MANY years of this kind of pure crap, I can only recommend that, before you make any move, you ALWAYS take a single moment to consider the risk/reward action ratio. Sure, you're completely in the right ad you'll get your few seconds of "righteousness", BUT you could wind up with damage to your car, some road rage pursuit and/or a court appearance. In the end, it is FAR more intelligent to let it be.

That's not to suggest it's in any way an easy thing to do. It's not and for the life of me, I can't always turn the other cheek. But when I have taken some action, the "feel good time" immediately after is never worth the hours later thoughts of just how consequentially bad things could have been.

The "lesson" you offer when with confrontation is NEVER learned. SO it's all about getting even and you've "arrived at the scene" SO far ahead of the other party that's there's never any real need.

[ViperTony]

The "lesson" you offer when with confrontation is NEVER learned.

I disagree especially if an ass-kicking is done correctly. I think the lesson is learned when, for example, the idiot who got the beat down shows up to work the next day with his cars' rear bumper shoved up his ass. He then has to explain to coworkers what he did to deserve it. There's a lesson in humility there. But I digress.

I commend CS for taking the high road. It's painful and it feels you left unsatisfied with the situation. No justice. But in this day and age such a situation quickly turns a victim into the instigator. YOU become the bad guy and the idiot walks away. It's not right. Eventually, things come full circle and they will get what's coming to them.

[City]

the idiot who got the beat down shows up to work the next day with his cars' rear bumper shoved up his ass. He then has to explain to coworkers what he did to deserve it. There's a lesson in humility there.

That is a valid exception. I concede the point.

[esqeddy]

Have a Viper in NYC grants me time with exactly this kind of ignorance quite often. After MANY years of this kind of pure crap, I can only recommend that, before you make any move, you ALWAYS take a single moment to consider the risk/reward action ratio. Sure, you're completely in the right ad you'll get your few seconds of "righteousness", BUT you could wind up with damage to your car, some road rage pursuit and/or a court appearance. In the end, it is FAR more intelligent to let it be.

That's not to suggest it's in any way an easy thing to do. It's not and for the life of me, I can't always turn the other cheek. But when I have taken some action, the "feel good time" immediately after is never worth the hours later thoughts of just how consequentially bad things could have been.

The "lesson" you offer when with confrontation is NEVER learned. SO it's all about getting even and you've "arrived at the scene" SO far ahead of the other party that's there's never any real need.

I agree. In fact, I have adopted the view that the classic "Idiot Driver" is just another type of potentially lethal rolling road hazard that one must effectively avoid to keep oneself as safe as possible while out on the road. Surely, each of us is aware that the world is full of nuts who are ready to snap and go on a full out shooting spree. Here in the US, and especially here in S. Ga., those nuts are typically well armed. (Of course, so am I. But that doesn't mean I'm looking for a firefight with a wack job.)

The most effective way I've found of dealing with the "Idiot Driver", is to get myself and my vehicle away from the psychopath as quickly as possible. Prolonging the confrontation rarely has any beneficial outcome. A confrontation can result in having someone ram your car just because it is a Viper, or them pulling a gun or weapon and trying hurt and/or kill you. Often, a confrontation can result in the involvement of law enforcement. In such a situation, even if it all pans out in your favor, and you are declared the good guy and the "Idiot Driver" is hauled off to jail, you just blew half a day of dealing with cops, being interviewed, and don't forget, you may be subpoenaed back to the Idiot Driver's court hearing, where you will get to waste even more of your time. And this is the best case scenario. Law Enforcement may not accept your explanation of the events, especially when the Idiot Driver is telling a completely different story. You could find yourself facing criminal charges, hiring an attorney (hopefully me!), and having to fight your ass off to NOT become a convicted felon.

It is said that Discretion is the better part of valor. "It is good to be brave, but it is also good to be careful.; If you are careful, you will not get into situations that require you to be brave."

Fortunately, with a Viper, I am well equipped to remove my person and my car from the vicinity of an "Idiot Driver", and I do so love doing it with great haste, leaving them in nothing but a cloud of dust and envy, knowing the last thing they see and remember is my middle finger salutation. :D

[Sybil TF]

Just your typical democrat voter. Get used to it........

[CSXT802]

Thanks for input everyone. I know it was best to turn the other cheek in this case. Did not sit well with me at first , but it is best not to risk what I have worked for. Who would have thought that trying to enjoy a drive in my viper would turn into drama. The scum bags and haters have to try and ruin it for the rest of us. What goes around comes around.

[Mr White]

naughty word warning, but appropriate:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9bUh1RD7Ts

[HobokenViper]

I had a similar experience recently commuting home from the train station in North White Plains, NY.

Get off the train and walk to my car, get in and drive about 15 mph through the parking lot. Some guy in a new Mercedes E-Class comes flying around a corner of the parking lot that I was approaching without looking and misses hitting me by mere inches (I was going straight and clearly had right of way) and I was thankfully NOT in my Viper, but in my 4 month old Lexus. He only missed slamming into me because I jammed on the brakes. I sat on the horn for about 5 seconds, and this guy stops his car short in front of me blocking the road. He jumps out of his car like a maniac approaching me cursing and screaming and telling me that he is going to kick my a$$. Now he is a normal average joe 40-ish year old guy who clearly works at a corporate job and had a bad day, but what he didn't know was that the guy he was trying to pick a fight with was a former bodybuilder and I could easily pound him into a pile of mush on the floor and beat him to a pulp with his own arms. I chose the high road and simply told him with a smile to get his a$$ back in his car before he got himself hurt. He got even closer and more threatening, and I warned him again that he should back away before he really caused some serious trouble and hurt for himself. He finally started walking back to his car yelling all the way that he should kick my a$$, and gets in his car and drives up ahead. All the other commuters behind me were nodding their heads in disbelief since they saw exactly what happened and that I did nothing wrong to deserve this psycho reaction. Further down the road, I happened to pull up almost next to him at speed without fully realizing it until he tried to smash his car into mine and run me off the road into a huge rock wall. I know it was intentional because he was looking at me while doing it screaming F YOU!!!!! This guy was seriously out of his mind and for what?!?! Because I honked my horn at him when he almost smashed his car into mine from his own careless driving?!

I was angry, but didn't have plates because I didn't think of it at the moment in my shock and anger. I decided it was better to hang back and avoid this guy than to engage him in a fight and potentially go to jail for permanently mangling him in self defense.

A couple weeks later, I was at the gym lifting some serious weights and looking especially huge and scary, and who do I see sit on the bench right next to me.....? The crazy a-hole from the road rage incident!!! I casually walked over to him and politely asked him if he drove a new silver Merc E-Class and he replied yes. I asked him if he commutes out of North White Plains, and he said yes and asked why I was asking him. I told him I'm getting to it and then asked him if he had tried to fight a guy in the parking lot a couple weeks prior and he turned pale as a ghost realizing that he was in big trouble. He was silent and I asked him if he felt like a tough guy now that he saw who he tried to start a fight with and didn't have his car to run and hide in, and asked if he wanted to step outside and see who would be kicking who's a$$ now, and he replied, "No, I'm good right here." And he basically apologized. Told him to shut his mouth from now on and not act like a moron because next time it might not end so well for him, or he could end up in jail if he killed someone running them off the road for no reason at all.

I thought that ended well, and haven't seen that guy at the gym since, or at the train station. Moral of the story, don't be an a-hole with road rage. You never know who you are messing with or what could happen to you, and nothing is worth starting a fight with someone over on the road.....it never ends well for anyone involved.

[Anonymous]

Hey Hoboken,welcome to westchester, we have a ton of assholes like that!

[HobokenViper]

I'm convinced he just REALLY hates Lexus cars.....

[v10enomous]

Wow... I just saw this thread Darren... As I was half way through your original post and knowing you, I thought to myself that there is no way you would let this get too far out of hand... and then I thought... Crap... I hope he didn't wreck his car before Carlisle... j/k hehehehe

[v10CodeMonkey]

A couple weeks later, I was at the gym lifting some serious weights and looking especially huge and scary, and who do I see sit on the bench right next to me.....? The crazy a-hole from the road rage incident!!! I casually walked over to him and politely asked him if he drove a new silver Merc E-Class and he replied yes. I asked him if he commutes out of North White Plains, and he said yes and asked why I was asking him. I told him I'm getting to it and then asked him if he had tried to fight a guy in the parking lot a couple weeks prior and he turned pale as a ghost realizing that he was in big trouble. He was silent and I asked him if he felt like a tough guy now that he saw who he tried to start a fight with and didn't have his car to run and hide in, and asked if he wanted to step outside and see who would be kicking who's a$$ now, and he replied, "No, I'm good right here." And he basically apologized. Told him to shut his mouth from now on and not act like a moron because next time it might not end so well for him, or he could end up in jail if he killed someone running them off the road for no reason at all.

I thought that ended well, and haven't seen that guy at the gym since, or at the train station. Moral of the story, don't be an a-hole with road rage. You never know who you are messing with or what could happen to you, and nothing is worth starting a fight with someone over on the road.....it never ends well for anyone involved.

Stories like this warm my heart :o Too many idiots get off scott free, this one did not.

[C.J]

Haven't experienced behavior like that here in NC. Maybe there's something in the water up North?

[Viper Pit]

Gimme some info on these dash cams you talk about!

[Patentlaw]

To all,

Respectfully, it is the area that you live. Lived in NJ for 40 years. Went through the same type of stuff.
Moved to Texas in a nicer area and bingo....no problems. Just thumbs up from people and appreciation for the car.

Not trying to be difficult, but if it bothers you that much....move.

And yes, I fully expect to get answers from people in Texas who complain about the same thing. Trust me....it is a geographical issue. Heck you get more respect in Hoboken because the parking and congestion mandates it than some areas up in Eastern PA and NJ.

Wishing you well with your continued insanity in the area.

Plaw

[Mr White]

Funny things happen when you cram too many people in one space.

[TitleMine]

People like that are why I want to put in some kind of dash cam.

I just use my Hero 3+ Black on 2.7k widescreen mode. Erase at the end of the day if nothing happened.

[Motor City Madman]

I've had similar experiences with idiot driers getting pissed off no matter what car I drive. I don't get the mentality. I could see if I was tailgating them or driving like a jerk, but that is not the case. For example, I was driving in my SUV a few years ago and this idiot in a pickup truck is driving about 65 mph in the fast lane on a 2 lane highway with a driver next to them in the slow lane driving the same speed. I usually drive about 90 mph in a 70 zone and want to get by. I'm patently waiting for this idiot to get out of the fast lane. Finally after about 5 minutes the car on the right slowly drops back far enough that I can pass on the right. So I then quickly get up to 90 mph and am on my way. About 3 minutes later the idiot in the truck that was in the slow lane comes flying up beside me, which means he had to get up to about 120mph, just so he can lay on his horn and flip me off. For what? Get the fuck outta the fast lane if you are driving the speed limit or below.

[MACH4444]

Not dash cams, action cams similar to a go pro but cheaper. I actually have a few, 2 contour roams and a contour+. They can take a good beating, can be submerged for short periods of time and have decent image quality.mi have mounts for them in my Viper, my wrangler and on a couple of my bikes. Attached one to a fishing line one day while surf fishing and it worked great even after hours in the salt water. Not as expensive as a go pro and the shape and size make it easy to use. Check out the contour website.

[Big Miata]

You have to let people be idiots and lets someone else teach them their lessons. The last time I got out of a car cause some idiot in a crap 4 runner ran me off the road he drove off running a redlight once he saw me get out of the car. Good thing cause a cop came the other direction 30 seconds later and I would be in jail for pummeling some punk kid into the ground. You got lucky that you had that filter. I always remember that when I think about getting out of a car to lay down my justice.