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NKC
01-13-2023, 02:07 PM
https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-546990/2017-dodge-viper-acr-voodoo-ii-edition/

13COBRA
01-13-2023, 02:54 PM
That's ignorant.

Scott_in_fl
01-13-2023, 03:02 PM
5282352824

13 miles on the ODO.

Pappy
01-13-2023, 03:23 PM
And a 68 Chevelle SS convertible just sold for $485K. The bidders must have started drinking early.

13COBRA
01-13-2023, 04:03 PM
And a 68 Chevelle SS convertible just sold for $485K. The bidders must have started drinking early.

Quick, hold my beer while I run down there with all of my vehicles!

commandomatt
01-13-2023, 06:03 PM
Sweet !!!

Doesn't matter reasons why. It is a recorded sale for the car most of us like to see increase in value.

Was reading a story (link below) about a motorcycle enthusiast that as he was getting into his 70's, cashed in on investments and bought a bunch of bikes that he always wanted. Several at auctions and he certainly overpaid at times. Did that matter ? Hell no. He wanted to live his passion. When he left, he did that feeling like he had done what he wanted to do and that's the end of the story.

You may never know the buyer's story. It's only money.

https://www.cycleworld.com/story/bikes/scott-haith-amasses-historic-motorcycle-collection/

ViperGeorge
01-13-2023, 06:16 PM
I was watching the auction live on TV. I could have sworn it went for $380,000 not $418,000 before fees. Of course it only has 13 miles on it.

ViperGeorge
01-13-2023, 06:46 PM
https://www.mecum.com/lots/FL0123-546990/2017-dodge-viper-acr-voodoo-ii-edition/

I'm pretty sure your title should say "went for $418,000 AFTER fees."

Mikey
01-13-2023, 06:50 PM
I think over the next 5 years, ACR-Es will enjoy a Ford gt type appreciation. Not too sure about the "regular" vipers

Space Truckin
01-13-2023, 06:59 PM
Wow...:D

ACRSNK
01-13-2023, 08:45 PM
Great number! Glad to see it!

ViperGeorge
01-14-2023, 09:55 AM
Watched a repeat of the auction. The car sold for $380,000 before fees or $418,000 after Mecum's 10% buyer's commission. Car was a Voodoo II with 13 miles on the clock. It was one of 31 Voodoo IIs produced. The price was pretty awesome. I wonder though what is the mileage limit that above which a car would not command such a high price. I'm sure it is some kind of proportional scale. If this car had say 1,300 miles or 13,000 on it how would the price have changed?

All the really high dollar cars that I've seen have like less than a 1,000 miles on them. Some much lower. I think the GTS-R that sold for $405,000 a while back on Bring A Trailer had 54 miles on it and it was also #1 of 100. .Even the Ford GTs that sell for big money have very low mileage for cars that are over 15 years old.

Bruce H.
01-14-2023, 10:32 AM
In general I would think it would make sense for limited numbered special editions that at least some prospective buyers might not be quite as concerned with mileage because it's not like they have a bunch to choose from. And in some case maybe the buyers paying these extreme prices at auctions are looking for cars with extremely low miles, and had this Vooodoo II not been there the buyer might have bought something completely different!

Example, if 2 or 3 bidders had been specifically looking for a Gen V ACR/TA, knowing only 10 were built, if only one was available would mileage or condition be the main driver of value? For me it would be condition, but I'm not an auction bidder, and I don't buy cars new or used to sit unused.

ViperGeorge
01-14-2023, 11:46 AM
In general I would think it would make sense for limited numbered special editions that at least some prospective buyers might not be quite as concerned with mileage because it's not like they have a bunch to choose from. And in some case maybe the buyers paying these extreme prices at auctions are looking for cars with extremely low miles, and had this Vooodoo II not been there the buyer might have bought something completely different!

Example, if 2 or 3 bidders had been specifically looking for a Gen V ACR/TA, knowing only 10 were built, if only one was available would mileage or condition be the main driver of value? For me it would be condition, but I'm not an auction bidder, and I don't buy cars new or used to sit unused.

You could be correct. There is however an ACR/TA for sale at a Lambo dealer in Charlotte, NC. Currently listed for $344,900. It hasn't sold for months, they have lowered the price by $5,000 since it was originally listed. It has 350 miles on it. Auctions seem to generate higher prices. They would have been better off consigning it to Mecum.

https://www.lambocharlotte.com/vehicle-details/used-2017-dodge-viper-acr-extreme-with-time-attack-pkg-charlotte-nc-id-48689155

13COBRA
01-14-2023, 12:31 PM
Auctions like this have A LOT of excitement that goes along with them.

Arizona Vipers
01-14-2023, 02:37 PM
That's a good deal imo. How many ACR's left with delivery miles? Can't be many

ViperJon
01-14-2023, 04:51 PM
An ACR-E value thread and no Policy Limits? Must be in jail like all lawyers should......:)

Steve-Indy
01-14-2023, 05:30 PM
"Policy Limits" seems to have disappeared.

Pappy
01-14-2023, 05:54 PM
I watched an older gentleman pay $1.3M for a real hemi Daytona race car. People around him appeared to be controlling the bidding. When he won, he didn't seem to react, and he finally just took a sip of his Bud Light. I can't remember whether that was just before or after the LS6 Chevelle convertible sold for $500K and the Yenko Camaro for $400K. The new, 1LZ C8 Z06 (base model - probably less than $125K sticker) sold for $250K plus fee. You could go to any dealer with dealer stock and get a fully loaded 3LZ with a $100K ADM for less. Pretty amazing to watch.

stevert
01-14-2023, 07:53 PM
My thoughts are once the ACR's are in this price range, Gen V TA, GTS, will start to climb about half or a little more than half of an ACR... Condition dependant.

ACRSNK
01-15-2023, 06:39 AM
I think the ACR-E’s will outpace other Vipers because of the simple fact that this was the best Viper ever made and there were very few (900 give or take) to go around. Take the ones that have been totaled out of the equation and you have a lot less cars available for purchase. I bet we are easily into the 700’s for the ACR-E’s with respect to what is left, or available out in the wild. This is an amazing car. I like all Vipers and have multiple, but the ACR-E is just spectacular. I think this was a spot on number for that car. It was also a SE car, which may have added some value. Expect numbers on these to go up from here.

@Viper Jon….not all lawyers are bad :)

Gen5snake
01-15-2023, 11:14 AM
That's ignorant.

That's what I thought when I saw this red 89 Blazer sell for $95k.

Bill Pemberton
01-15-2023, 12:17 PM
Starting to wonder how many more years before my Viper is worth more than my house, ha? Hard to figure what the general term " Regular Viper " really means , since there are so few, quite a few special editions, and everything seems to be increasing as we speak, it looks like a lovefest for the Snake.

I do agree the ACR will continue to be the Top Dog ( er Dodge ) well into the future, but there are many other Stars out there that will come to the forefront as the market interest grows over the coming decades.

ACRSNK
01-15-2023, 02:38 PM
I love Vipers, but I would feel much better about collecting them if getting parts wasn’t such an issue. I think this has kept some collectors away and will be an issue with future collectors unless something changes.

I think Bill P. Is right in that it will be interesting to see which models collectors flock to in the future. Lots of special snakes out there.

NKC
01-17-2023, 08:31 PM
I'm pretty sure your title should say "went for $418,000 AFTER fees."

Sorry about that. Wish I could edit the title but oh well.

ViperGeorge
01-18-2023, 09:45 AM
Sorry about that. Wish I could edit the title but oh well.

Yea, no worries. I too wish there was a way to edit titles. Seems like something that should be available.

Policy Limits
01-18-2023, 09:55 AM
My Pronouns:

I/Told/You/So

13COBRA
01-18-2023, 10:38 AM
My Pronouns:

I/Told/You/So

Oh God.

StrokerAce
01-18-2023, 11:00 AM
Sort of like doing a rain dance daily and when it finally rains saying "Yup, called it.":orange:

Arizona Vipers
01-18-2023, 11:01 AM
Policy Limits great accomplishment in life is he's had a 14% annual gain on his $140K investment 6 years ago LOL.

ViperJon
01-18-2023, 12:28 PM
Policy Limits great accomplishment in life is he's had a 14% annual gain on his $140K investment 6 years ago LOL.

And has posted the same comment about Viper values for literally six straight years.

Mikey
01-18-2023, 12:38 PM
So I take it we don't like this policy limits guy

13COBRA
01-18-2023, 12:48 PM
So I take it we don't like this policy limits guy

Haha he's fine, and harmless.

He's just the biggest Viper value guru this side of the Nile River.

ACRSNK
01-19-2023, 11:23 AM
Policy Limits is a good guy. Just comes across a little harsh sometimes, but all in good fun.

Scott_in_fl
01-19-2023, 08:19 PM
Policy Limits great accomplishment in life is he's had a 14% annual gain on his $140K investment 6 years ago LOL.

192% Return on Investment
22% annualized ROI

Now get ready to blow your mind...

If the growth rate continues for the next 10 years at 22%, and I expect it to actually accelerate toward the end of that period, the car is worth $2.9 million.

I believe that a Ferrari F40 just sold at Mecum Kissimmee for $2.4m last weekend, so $2.9m 10 years from now for a very rare “last of era” car is not unreasonable.

bluesrt
01-20-2023, 10:31 AM
and to say i got the 15k extra off my new vooodoo,lol

ViperJon
01-20-2023, 10:37 AM
and to say i got the 15k extra off my new vooodoo,lol

As long as you don't factor in WHY you got it .....:)

13COBRA
01-20-2023, 10:38 AM
and to say i got the 15k extra off my new vooodoo,lol

I'd have a hard time not rolling it haha

ACRSNK
01-20-2023, 06:54 PM
So far the Gev V GTSR (ACR-E) is the only new car I have ever purchased that I didn't lose money on. Hopefully the trend continues so I can make up some of the money lost on all the others :)

Policy Limits
01-22-2023, 05:01 PM
192% Return on Investment
22% annualized ROI

Now get ready to blow your mind...

If the growth rate continues for the next 10 years at 22%, and I expect it to actually accelerate toward the end of that period, the car is worth $2.9 million.

I believe that a Ferrari F40 just sold at Mecum Kissimmee for $2.4m last weekend, so $2.9m 10 years from now for a very rare “last of era” car is not unreasonable.

This is the 2nd one someone paid over $400k for. When do you opine it hits seven figures?