44 mile GTS on Bring A Trailer

[Arizona Vipers]

This should go for big bucks- https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1996-dodge-viper-22/

[COI]

Makes you wonder how many of these are out there? I do question why somebody did the frame recall on this car. If the goal was originality, that's no longer the case. Obviously, it's not a driver.

[GTS Dean]

Built 5 days after mine, but has lower VIN. Interestingly, this car has both frame reinforcement recalls performed. Has a dent in the lower front frame rail on the drivers side. Needs new boots on the swaybar end links. Has period correct saggy headliner net pockets. Bad orange peel on the RH door stanchion. Dash is very, very good, but showing some outgassing near the dimmer thumb wheel and console top near shifter. PS floor carpet rolls down just like mine. Lumbar pump bulbs rotten too.

[Ontariomystic]

Recall plates for the steering rack are installed backwards

[RedTanRT/10]

AZ, yeah nice Viper but what are you going to do with it. At the mileage and expected price, silly to drive it!!

With the big $$$'s on BAT recently, are all the G5 ACR-E guys going to park them in the hopes of seeing big $$$$'s????

[dave6666]

A 25 year old garage queen that needs repairs because it sat for 25 years.

You just can't make stupidity like that up.

[daveg]

Built 5 days after mine, but has lower VIN. I'm VIN 33, 1 off from mine. Im 051708

It took five (5) days to create the 96 GTS; two (2) days in chassis and three (3) days in final assembly. The first production GTS rolled off the assembly line on May 6, 1996.

Because CAAP assigned VINs after a batch of cars are produced, the number a car gets can be several places off

Early cars also had the Oil fill cap on the drivers side Valve cover. They quickly went to the Passengers side after some were built.

[GTS Dean]

I just double-checked and mine was built the same day as the one for sale and is 64 off the VIN sequence. I understand the process, but this hilights how flakey the VIN can be. And yes, mine has the oil filler cap conveniently located right below the brake booster vacuum line.

[Arizona Vipers]

AZ, yeah nice Viper but what are you going to do with it. At the mileage and expected price, silly to drive it!!

With the big $$$'s on BAT recently, are all the G5 ACR-E guys going to park them in the hopes of seeing big $$$$'s????

If this guy just invested the $70K and got 6% a year he'd have $300,430.95 now. lol Not to mention taxes, registration, storage, insurance, maintenance etc There has never been a car that was a good investment and never will be.

[ACRSNK]

If this guy just invested the $70K and got 6% a year he'd have $300,430.95 now. lol Not to mention taxes, registration, storage, insurance, maintenance etc There has never been a car that was a good investment and never will be.

While I agree with your comments in general I believe there are some exceptions like a 1967 Ferrari Nart Spider. What are those bringing these days? $30 million???

This is a beautiful B/W. Should do really well.

[lane_viper]

Recall plates for the steering rack are installed backwards

Wonder if the oil has ever been changed, EVER? Doesn't this block the filter from coming out?

Guess the good news is this thing will never be driven, so never need to change the oil.

[TTSnake]

Wonder if the oil has ever been changed, EVER? Doesn't this block the filter from coming out?

Guess the good news is this thing will never be driven, so never need to change the oil.

Good point. It does block the oil filter. Mine was installed backwards and I had them redo it after I asked them how I change my oil filter. So this car probably has not had the filter changed and wouldn't need it. Whomever buys this probably won't be driving it anyway.

[daveg]

Good point. It does block the oil filter. Mine was installed backwards and I had them redo it after I asked them how I change my oil filter. So this car probably has not had the filter changed.I thought it was possible to still get it out with some fenagling? Thank god mine was done right.

[TTSnake]

I thought it was possible to still get it out with some fenagling? Thank god mine was done right.

You could get it out but it's not easy. I'd imagine you would sprain a wrist trying to spin the filter out.

[Patentlaw]

Again........all talking down about the car. Only on this website are such haters present.

People talking about what other people should do with their money and possessions. "He should have invested the money....etc.....". Who knows.....maybe the guy had a stroke and could not drive it. I don't know what difference it makes anyway.

Oh well.......the car will bring good money anyway despite it. it is an aspirational car. People will buy it. This is a typical thread.

[daveg]

Again........all talking down about the car. Only on this website are such haters present.Not I, I would love to look at that in my garage. Almost as good as looking at Starry Night! Cheaper too...

[COI]

Again........all talking down about the car. Only on this website are such haters present.

People talking about what other people should do with their money and possessions. "He should have invested the money....etc.....". Who knows.....maybe the guy had a stroke and could not drive it. I don't know what difference it makes anyway.

Oh well.......the car will bring good money anyway despite it. it is an aspirational car. People will buy it. This is a typical thread.

Yep, if you're looking for people to trash this magnificent car, come to the VOA forums.

Despite the negativity, this is an amazing car and will be thoroughly enjoyed by whomever buys it and my guess is the buyer could give a rats arse about 6% returns on anything.

[Arizona Vipers]

Again........all talking down about the car. Only on this website are such haters present.

People talking about what other people should do with their money and possessions. "He should have invested the money....etc.....". Who knows.....maybe the guy had a stroke and could not drive it. I don't know what difference it makes anyway.

Oh well.......the car will bring good money anyway despite it. it is an aspirational car. People will buy it. This is a typical thread.


Nothing wrong with collecting cars. It's collectors that let us all see cool old cars as they were right off the factory floor.

[Viperenvy]

If this guy just invested the $70K and got 6% a year he'd have $300,430.95 now. lol Not to mention taxes, registration, storage, insurance, maintenance etc There has never been a car that was a good investment and never will be.

I am not sure I understand you point?

[Patentlaw]

Yep, if you're looking for people to trash this magnificent car, come to the VOA forums.

Despite the negativity, this is an amazing car and will be thoroughly enjoyed by whomever buys it and my guess is the buyer could give a rats arse about 6% returns on anything.

It is funny.....If you go on forums for cryptocurrency....people are rabid about the "value" of coins that someone created out of thin air. Many are essentially worthless. Despite this... Never a bad comment. Here...each of us own an American classic that people aspire to........and people constantly trash it.

I am "hodl"ing the Viper.....TO THE MOON......

[ticklechicken]

I just double-checked and mine was built the same day as the one for sale and is 64 off the VIN sequence. I understand the process, but this hilights how flakey the VIN can be. And yes, mine has the oil filler cap conveniently located right below the brake booster vacuum line.

How do you check the build date? If I recall, my VIN ends in ..0085 so I just assumed mine was the 85th one built. Seems that's not true?

[TheMadMachinist]

[QUOTE=Patentlaw;436789]It is funny.....If you go on forums for cryptocurrency....people are rabid about the "value" of coins that someone created out of thin air. Many are essentially worthless. Despite this... Never a bad comment. Here...each of us own an American classic that people aspire to........and people constantly trash it.

I am "hodl"ing the Viper.....TO THE MOON......Whatever this is suppose to mean?

All I see here are fellow owners pointing out obvious flaws that in some cases only am owner would see. How is that deflating to the brand as a whole. Sounds more like a polite service to any buyer that mite not be as well versed in Viper idiosyncrasies.

Not that it matters but I myself think more along the lines of Dave666. But I think of myself as a driver and not a collector.

[daveg]

How do you check the build date? If I recall, my VIN ends in ..0085 so I just assumed mine was the 85th one built. Seems that's not true?Look at the sticker on the drivers door. It has MM DD HH

[StrokerAce]

If I had the funds to buy it it get it home and I'd change the fluids, ensure proper air pressure, and burn those tires off. :)

[dave6666]

I am not sure I understand you point?

Garage queens are stupid is the obvious point. You don't get to drive it and the money you make is trivial as compared to real investments. $66K - the 1996 MSRP - would be worth $554,000.00 today if it had been invested in equities. But instead it's considered forum smart to buy a car, never drive it, let it physically deteriorate, and then celebrate when you sell it for a mere fraction of what you could have made. More stupidity you just can't make up.

[71firebird400]

Strange how beat up the bumper is for "44" miles. Also strange that someone would have the frame recall done on such a low-mile example. I don't know about the rest of you but this really doesn't seem like a 44 mile car to me.

[ViperDrive97]

Garage queens are stupid is the obvious point. You don't get to drive it and the money you make is trivial as compared to real investments. $66K - the 1996 MSRP - would be worth $554,000.00 today if it had been invested in equities. But instead it's considered forum smart to buy a car, never drive it, let it physically deteriorate, and then celebrate when you sell it for a mere fraction of what you could have made. More stupidity you just can't make up.

SO damn true!!!

[ViperJon]

Garage queens are stupid is the obvious point. You don't get to drive it and the money you make is trivial as compared to real investments. $66K - the 1996 MSRP - would be worth $554,000.00 today if it had been invested in equities. But instead it's considered forum smart to buy a car, never drive it, let it physically deteriorate, and then celebrate when you sell it for a mere fraction of what you could have made. More stupidity you just can't make up.

Maybe the guy has/had lots of money and didn't need investment advice. Maybe he just enjoyed looking at it like a painting or a sculpture that doesn't appreciate much. Maybe he has a large collection of cars and needs space. Not everyone is you.

[PittsburghRT]

Are 96's supposed to have the clear film on the lower front corners of the front bumper? My 01 has them from the factory.

[COI]

Garage queens are stupid is the obvious point. You don't get to drive it and the money you make is trivial as compared to real investments. $66K - the 1996 MSRP - would be worth $554,000.00 today if it had been invested in equities. But instead it's considered forum smart to buy a car, never drive it, let it physically deteriorate, and then celebrate when you sell it for a mere fraction of what you could have made. More stupidity you just can't make up.

I've never met a serious car collector who celebrates making any money when selling a car. It's a hobby, not a job. Most of the time they need space for something new or acknowledge the car is likely to be enjoyed more by someone else.

It's ironic, according to your logic, two of the stupidest people in the world helped start this club. Just think how many Vipers they own that are garage queens. Imagine how rich they could have been if they had never purchased a Viper. The shame they must feel.

I haven't heard any car collector bash you for modding your car or driving the heck out of it. Probably because they are happy that you enjoy your car the way you want to. :)

[daveg]

Are 96's supposed to have the clear film on the lower front corners of the front bumper? My 01 has them from the factory.
Some did, some didnt.

[GTS Dean]

As I remember, mine did not have them from the factory, but there was a recall pretty early on that applied them - along with some plastic rub covers near the seat belt anchors and a new oil pan.

[COI]

$160K plus fees is the total. Wow. That's a lot of money considering there are probably a good number of these ultra-low mileage '96 GTS's around. Obviously it took two very interested parties to get to this number and it rocketed up $52K in the last 12 minutes of the auction.

[Patentlaw]

Just remember.....

Choose the excuse (below) from the usual bunch on here....

It did not happen.
It was just because two ignorant people were interested in it.
The people were drunk.
It was a garage queen, nobody cares.

Again.....How many threads has this happened in? The reality is coming home......prices are going up everywhere. From Toyotas to Jaguars to Dodges......prices are going up. In five years.....the buyer may have gotten a great deal here.