WTB ISO Stryker color ACRE

[Franchise]

Hi all,

Looking for a Stryker color ACRE.
Bank not needed. Cash buyer.
Please message me for info.

(Only realistic sellers plz).

Thanks

[Exhlr8n]

Good luck with your search. Hope you find one!

B.A.T. just sold that 7k mile GTSR for $235K

[ACRSNK]

Good luck with your search. Hope you find one!

B.A.T. just sold that 7k mile GTSR for $235K

Actually it was $240K with buyer’s premium.

[SRT_BluByU]

I called it at $250k... so close! ;)


OP - good luck on your search.. Values have skyrocket as people have started to discover how amazing these cars are!

[BJG32]

I called it at $250k... so close! ;)


OP - good luck on your search.. Values have skyrocket as people have started to discover how amazing these cars are!

Yep.... realistic buyer is going to be needed too.

[Mbccenter]

I became closer to a realistic seller every day now with my Stryker Purple w/ 6 miles :)

[ViperJon]

What is "realistic seller" code for? :)

[BJG32]

What is "realistic seller" code for? :)

“I missed the boat and I want to pay the value it was 6 months ago”

[Cyabya]

i told someone 250 for mine. now i wouldnt take that. how will i find another acr-e

[Franchise]

Thanks guys!

Didnt miss anything...just wasnt ready yet.

I said realistic bc some are unrealistic...such as those saying $3xx,xxx (actually was just shy of 400) ...no matter the drugs or the planet, still not worth that number. No disrespect meant, but seriously.

Just a feeler. Had a couple reach out, so they are out there and have sent back.

Please keep meaningless comments to yourself.

Thx!

[Exhlr8n]

Not apples to apples, but I almost pulled the trigger a few years back on a 3 option tungsten Ford GT40 for 125. There were a few out there at the time. I passed on it. Now you can't touch them for under 300.
I know not the same animal, but very similar situation.

[ACRSNK]

It took the Ford GT 15 years to double in value. The ACR has done almost as well and it’s only 4 years old. I wouldn’t doubt for a second that these cars will get to $400K in less than 15 years post production. Wouldn’t be surprised if it was much higher.

[Exhlr8n]

It took the Ford GT 15 years to double in value. The ACR has done almost as well and it’s only 4 years old. I wouldn’t doubt for a second that these cars will get to $400K in less than 15 years post production. Wouldn’t be surprised if it was much higher.

Agree.

A good number of ACR-E had MSRP in excess of 160K, so far from doubling yet. But no doubt they will get there eventually.

[Brian GTS]

I'm always losing money on cars, so it's good to see this now that I have two ACR-E's in the garage. Although, it seems as if a lot of cars have increased in value since the "pandemic". I have to wonder if it will stay this way...???

[StrokerAce]

I'm always losing money on cars, so it's good to see this now that I have two ACR-E's in the garage. Although, it seems as if a lot of cars have increased in value since the "pandemic". I have to wonder if it will stay this way...???

Do you plan to drive one more than the other and the one to drive just enough so it doesn't go to hell? Cars that are not driven seem to have a ton of issues down the road.

[Brian GTS]

Do you plan to drive one more than the other and the one to drive just enough so it doesn't go to hell? Cars that are not driven seem to have a ton of issues down the road.

They are not "6 milers". I do drive them occasionally. The ACR-E has 700 miles and the GTS-R has about 1,500.

[MoHaWk2003]

Welcome! Here's one:

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=555931227&zip=76101&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D76101%26city%3D Fort%2BWorth%26startYear%3D2010%26incremental%3Dal l%26modelCodeList%3DVIPER%26makeCodeList%3DDODGE%2 52CSRT%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceASC%26location%3D%25 5Bobject%2BObject%255D%26state%3DTX%26firstRecord% 3D0%26marketExtension%3Dinclude%26relevanceConfig% 3Ddefault%26searchRadius%3D0%26isNewSearch%3Dfalse&startYear=2010&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&modelCodeList=VIPER&makeCodeList=DODGE%2CSRT&searchRadius=0&makeCode1=DODGE&modelCode1=VIPER&clickType=listing

[Brian GTS]

^ Not an "E"

[BJG32]

I'm always losing money on cars, so it's good to see this now that I have two ACR-E's in the garage. Although, it seems as if a lot of cars have increased in value since the "pandemic". I have to wonder if it will stay this way...???

Everything “increases in value” when uncle sugar prints trillions of dollars. This is part of whats going on.

The days of $1xx,xxx asking prices for any ACR E are a few months if not weeks from extinction.

Anyone asking $300 to $400k for an ACRE doesn’t want to sell..... but this statement won’t age well.

[MoHaWk2003]

^ Not an "E"

Ah, you're right. Didn't look very closely! Man...slim pickins out there right now...

[LuvSpeed]

Everything “increases in value” when uncle sugar prints trillions of dollars. This is part of whats going on.


Bingo. Don’t keep your money in cash. It will lose value as inflation hits. Any commodity including Vipers will go up in “value”. However I do think we are seeing the Viper go up in value more than inflationary pressure.

[Scott_in_fl]

Bingo. Don’t keep your money in cash. It will lose value as inflation hits. Any commodity including Vipers will go up in “value”. However I do think we are seeing the Viper go up in value more than inflationary pressure.

Yes, it is an excellent point but it is more than just general inflation. You can buy just abt any recwnt model used Mac [ie 720s), Lambo (ie Aventador, Hiracan), Pcar (GT2/3RS), etc cheaper today than you could 6 mos ago, 12 mos ago, etc. They are all deprexiating normally. 720s is about to crack $200k for a nice used example.

[Lawineer]

There's a hell of a lot more to inflation than just printing money, like interest rates. Case and point- we've been printing money like crazy with very little inflation.
Heck, we're at near zero interest and printing money and we still can't get inflation.

Lots of cars are appreciating for a few reasons:

1) People with money have more money because they aren't spending it on other stuff. People with money were dining out, going to bars, traveling to work, going on vacations, etc. Heck, these people are probably saving $200-500/mo in gas, wear and tear, car insurance and tolls. I noticed how much less I was spending on vacations and etc. (My office is 2 miles away so no real savings there). Poor people weren't spending much on vacations and restaurants anyway.

2) Mortgage rates are collapsing. These people who are buying these cars own homes and probably have decent sized mortgages. Refinancing s saving me $200/mo and I have about no mortgage and had a decent rate to start with (I'm a bitch when it comes to borrowing money- after digging myself out of $300k of student loans, I don't like debt). My GF saved $400/mo. That's half a nice car for free right there. People without homes aren't seeing any benefit here, and are probably getting hurt by lower interest rates causing housing prices to increase, which is causing rent prices to increase.

3) People with businesses are getting PPP loans and SBA loans and etc. Obviously, a lot are also hurting, but many are getting free money for businesses that didn't get hurt very bad and/or are saving money with WFH employees. Also, the places like NYC that are killing small businesses the most are the places where people weren't buying high end sports cars nearly as frequently anyway.

4) Boredom. Sitting at home all day, can't do other stuff. Sitting on the internet.

5) Stuff like bitcoin (and gamestop, lol) that made people a lot of money.

6) Stock market is crazy too. Longest bull run ever.

[RT SERPENT]

It took the Ford GT 15 years to double in value. The ACR has done almost as well and it’s only 4 years old. I wouldn’t doubt for a second that these cars will get to $400K in less than 15 years post production. Wouldn’t be surprised if it was much higher.

I think just over 4000 Ford GT's were manufactured, which is around the same number as Gen5 Vipers.
Only 900(ish?) ACR-E's?

I still want one of each :)

[Lawineer]

I think just over 4000 Ford GT's were manufactured, which is around the same number as Gen5 Vipers.
Only 900(ish?) ACR-E's?

I still want one of each :)

Thought it was closed to 3000.

[Franchise]

There are alot of reasons for things going up and down...as we all wish we had a crystal ball!...crazy thing by me is getting an inground pool! COVID made alot of things go crazy! Definitely helped the Viper (not looking to debate here-we all have our opinions). During summer of 2020 Inground pools were backlogged almost 18 months! some pool companies increasing their prices almost 100%! but now, about 4-6 months.

Crazy times do excite people. Just like anything in this world, things will eventually level off. People's taste changes, lifestyles change, families change...and people get into and out of cars like this. Just natural. I do believe they will hold a premium, it will just deflate some.

I know there are "for sale" and "MAKE me sell" prices. I have toys to play with, so not urgent...just know it is my next one. All good either way!

[GTS21]

Are the non ACR GTCs moving up in value as well?

[RT SERPENT]

"All boats rise with the tide." Seems to be holding true right now.
Looks like all Gen5's are going up. Actually pretty much every Viper (of every generation) is on the rise. Just my observation.

[Franchise]

Everyone has their opinion on this...some have merit, some dont. IMHO the top of the wave has passed...again, everyone has their opinion.

I always go back to simplicity..."it is only worth what someone will actually pay for it."

[commandomatt]

Everyone has their opinion on this...some have merit, some dont. IMHO the top of the wave has passed...again, everyone has their opinion.

I always go back to simplicity..."it is only worth what someone will actually pay for it."

So, are you thinking that the cars we are talking about will drop in prices going forward ? Just trying to get the right read on the ‘top of the wave has passed’

[Scott_in_fl]

^^^ Supply vs. demand. Both are trending in one direction and I dont see why they would reverse, ever, frankly. The pricing trend may slow, but reversing would be unusual barring some existential event. We're now on the other side of the speculation curve and cars are now with long term holders. I cant imagine supply ever being any better than it is today (and we know thats not much). I suppose demand could slow but not enough to where there is over-supply. Theres just so few cars.

[BJG32]

^^^ Supply vs. demand. Both are trending in one direction and I dont see why they would reverse, ever, frankly. The pricing trend may slow, but reversing would be unusual barring some existential event. We're now on the other side of the speculation curve and cars are now with long term holders. I cant imagine supply ever being any better than it is today (and we know thats not much). I suppose demand could slow but not enough to where there is over-supply. Theres just so few cars.

Over 4000 Gen 1 Ford GT
Less than 3000 total gen 5 Vipers.... under 1000 ACRs.

No chance prices have peaked... but I’d spread that fake news like CNN if I was looking too!

[commandomatt]

I agree with Scott and BJG. I was just trying to understand what the PO was basing this observation on.

Maybe the prices will hold but no way they are going down across the board. A single fire sale or stories car here and there but those will be few.

[Franchise]

why does everyone get so excited about an opinion? just an opinion. BUT prices were higher 3 months ago...look at all those snakeskins sitting...one guy was pissed he bought high, tried to ask higher, and fell flat (will stay anonymous)...now more GTRs coming on with decent pricing...either way, we are all allowed an opinion or feeling...like most investors, unfortunately, most guys bought these to have fun!...when they hear they could be a good investment they get excited-validating the purchase, but get upset when someone doesnt feel the same value...GUYS, JUST AN OPINION . I am a Viper guy who has one and wants another, not an investor and I do this for fun.

trust me NOT CNN...what a disaster there.

FORD GT and vipers are different animals guys. so not into debating this. is this FB?

just an opinion again.

[Cyabya]

all those snakeskins sold. someone was looking for one on fb since none where available on the market. same with the gtsr on the market are all also sold. so the demand is most definitely there.

[BJG32]

why does everyone get so excited about an opinion? just an opinion. BUT prices were higher 3 months ago...look at all those snakeskins sitting...one guy was pissed he bought high, tried to ask higher, and fell flat (will stay anonymous)...now more GTRs coming on with decent pricing...either way, we are all allowed an opinion or feeling...like most investors, unfortunately, most guys bought these to have fun!...when they hear they could be a good investment they get excited-validating the purchase, but get upset when someone doesnt feel the same value...GUYS, JUST AN OPINION . I am a Viper guy who has one and wants another, not an investor and I do this for fun.

trust me NOT CNN...what a disaster there.

FORD GT and vipers are different animals guys. so not into debating this. is this FB?

just an opinion again.


Because this is a forum with a relevant topic. You share opinions. I countered his opinion with my opinion. CNN comment was an attempt at humor. Sorry to offend. Didn’t know this was a safe space.

FGT is the most relevant example to compare the gen 5 viper to. Knowledgeable owners have been predicting what is happening now since 2016.

[ACRSNK]

I have one question.....where the heck is Policy Limits?

[BJG32]

I have one question.....where the heck is Policy Limits?

:smilielol:

[John19]

It looks like another one may sell soon. BJM has a sale pending on a 2017 snakeskin edition for 182K. Non ACR no CCB. Values are still on the rise.....
Last September when I was looking for Vipers there was a GTSR that sold for mid 170K with about 2500mi, if I remember correctly. Now I see there is a 7000mi GTSR selling for $235k!!!

[Arizona Vipers]

Here's a 22 mile Stryker for $199K- https://www.ebay.com/itm/2016-Dodge-Viper-ACR/393206630389
If you haven't already bought this, then you aren't really in the market lol

[Brian GTS]

^ Probably because it's not an "Extreme"....standard ACR. Still a beautiful car though!

[ViperJon]

^ Probably because it's not an "Extreme"....standard ACR. Still a beautiful car though!

Agree. It would have been long gone if it was an ACR-E. Beautiful.

[w12x]

I became closer to a realistic seller every day now with my Stryker Purple w/ 6 miles :)

Curious, do you have an ACR or standard?

[RT SERPENT]

Mbccenter has multiple Vipers, ACR's, etc.
His Stryker Purple is an ACR-E with no stripes. Simply STUNNING!

... but I'll let him add more detail. :)

[Mbccenter]

Curious, do you have an ACR or standard?
That one is a ACR-E that I purchased new.