Oil Catch Can Which One You Got?

[PaulP]

so after searching a few boards and only vendor i could come up with was this link here

http://jmbperformance.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=82

anyone have any experience with this kit? or recommend a diff one

[IndyRon]

That's the cheapest I've seen a catch can for these cars. Looks like a decent piece. I'm trying to figure out what the 2 90degree connectors are that are "T"'d together with a piece of clear tubing are for on the side of the can. There is an inlet at the top, a drain at the bottom, and a vent with filter on the top. Are those other ports used for the other valvecover/vacuum lines?

[FLATOUT]

Acrx

[Torquemonster06]

I believe the clear tube with the 2 90's attached to it is a way to see how much is in the can.

[PaulP]

Sorry ACRX?

[Late Apex]

ACR X on my ACR and works great.

[PaulP]

do you have a website?

[PaulP]

Was thinking something like this a sealed unit, so no fumes vented, basically a air/oil sperator

http://www.42draftdesigns.com/Ultimate-Oil-Catch-Can-12-NPT_p_466.html

what you guys think any cons to not having it vented?

[Steve M]

Made my own setup based on the Rx Performance catch can:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/meentss02/CatchCan3_zpsee5d39bc.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/meentss02/CatchCan4_zpscff1c0eb.jpg

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/meentss02/CatchCan2_zps1041c8d1.jpg

[FLATOUT]

Sorry ACRX?

Made by Peterson Fluid Systems, and factory installed on the X race cars.

[PaulP]

thanks FLATOUT, nice sealed setup STEVEM! no fumes ?

[Steve M]

thanks FLATOUT, nice sealed setup STEVEM! no fumes ?

Bingo...I like to keep these systems sealed for street use, but I'd have no issues running a vented setup at the track.

[FLATOUT]

Bingo...I like to keep these systems sealed for street use, but I'd have no issues running a vented setup at the track.

I went round and round on wether to use Steve's system or go vented. I ended up having access to a vented X can so I bought it.

Honestly even doing a bit of street driving with it I don't notice it much at all.

[PaulP]

STEVE M where did you get bracket doesn't show on rx website?

[Steve M]

STEVE M where did you get bracket doesn't show on rx website?

You won't find it there...the only thing that came from there was the catch can itself. I knew of Rx Performance from the LSx community, so I decided to adapt one of their cans for a Viper application.

[v10CodeMonkey]

Steve M, any chance you've got a list of the parts and where you sourced them from to create your setup? Nice, clean looking install.

[Nixon's SRT]

installed in the rear of the car, so no issues with fumes. Tapped at the rear of the valve covers with a 1/2 fitting. Cost ~$200 for everything. Summit Racing for all the fittings and hose

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa231/2006Black300SRT8/Catch%20Can%20Install/20140222_161935.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/2006Black300SRT8/media/Catch%20Can%20Install/20140222_161935.jpg.html)
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa231/2006Black300SRT8/Catch%20Can%20Install/20140222_123820.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/2006Black300SRT8/media/Catch%20Can%20Install/20140222_123820.jpg.html)
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa231/2006Black300SRT8/Catch%20Can%20Install/IMG_20140315_081135.jpg (http://s199.photobucket.com/user/2006Black300SRT8/media/Catch%20Can%20Install/IMG_20140315_081135.jpg.html)

[Torquemonster06]

^^^^^^^^Car Porn Right There^^^^^^^^

[Steve M]

Steve M, any chance you've got a list of the parts and where you sourced them from to create your setup? Nice, clean looking install.

I do indeed...I sent you a PM since I sourced everything from non-sponsors (like eBay, Jegs, etc.), and I don't want to step on any toes.

[Steve M]

Bringing this back from the dead...just changed the oil in my Viper today, and this is what my catch can caught over the past 1,200 miles (street driven only):

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn227/meentss02/Viper/Catch%20Can%20Contents_zpsjixhpjzs.jpg

Took a peek inside the intake, and everything looks good. I don't care what brand you go with (Doug Shelby's offering looks really nice), an oil catch can is highly recommended even on a street driven Viper. The last thing I want is that crap getting back into my intake manifold.

[PaulP]

Steve M, great point, here is the link to pics of my stock car with oil in the intake lots of little puddles and a really thick layer, now i have a catch can.

http://driveviper.com/forums/threads/6756-Paxton-G3-Build

[slowhatch]

I went round and round on wether to use Steve's system or go vented. I ended up having access to a vented X can so I bought it.

Honestly even doing a bit of street driving with it I don't notice it much at all.

I run the ACR-X vented can on mine as well, and I've never smelled anything ever. Although I do see puffs of oil smoke coming out of the vent every now and again. Nice to see its doing its job!

[Fireball36]

FWIW, the ACRX setup has a different connection point on the valve cover. I think Arrow racing makes the mods to the valve cover but not sure.

Greg

[ACRucrazy]

I have the Radium can and Doug Shelby Engineering bracket.

[slowhatch]

FWIW, the ACRX setup has a different connection point on the valve cover. I think Arrow racing makes the mods to the valve cover but not sure.

Greg

Yup this is true. My baffles inside the valve cover were modified to accommodate the lines.

[Steve M]

FWIW, the ACRX setup has a different connection point on the valve cover. I think Arrow racing makes the mods to the valve cover but not sure.

Greg

Yes...Arrow mods the valve covers to vent from the sides rather than the front to eliminate the possibility of the oil sloshing forward under heavy braking. The Gen 5 cars appear to have adopted this as well.

[RPM9000]

I am running the ACRX can on mine.

[PaulP]

I went acrx catch can and exotic engines valve cover breathers.

[Mopar'er no car]

Just ordered the one from justin at JMB...150$ shipped with black wrinkle finish...I'll let ya guys know in a few weeks..it's a breather (inline) style ...

[FrgMstr]

I might install my homegrown setup this weekend (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Mp7VBMRmxLrMPqkKMlAExdBx7byaRI7BBYkIk_YNr24/edit?usp=sharing). Been too lazy about it.

[2Luke2]

I might install my homegrown setup this weekend (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Mp7VBMRmxLrMPqkKMlAExdBx7byaRI7BBYkIk_YNr24/edit?usp=sharing). Been too lazy about it.

Dang, I was curious what brand catch can was on our car... now I know HAHA.... Just ordered the JMB one in glossy black! :)

[FrgMstr]

Dang, I was curious what brand catch can was on our car... now I know HAHA.... Just ordered the JMB one in glossy black! :)

Hehe, yeah, I am gonna shoot mine black with bedliner before I install it. Won't look so cheap that way. But jeez...a can is a can. :)

[Mr White]

Hehe, yeah, I am gonna shoot mine black with bedliner before I install it. Won't look so cheap that way. But jeez...a can is a can. :)

bass boat gold flake!

[2Luke2]

Hehe, yeah, I am gonna shoot mine black with bedliner before I install it. Won't look so cheap that way. But jeez...a can is a can. :)

Very true, I was just super surprised to find out ours was homemade. Respect to the person who did it, though we like the smaller can, site tube, and getting it painted was a bonus. :)

[TooBlue]

I used a JMB catch can with matte black crinkle finish. I had Justin PC the valve covers and the coil covers in the same crinkle finish

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[viper04blk]

I want to order the JMB catch can, but i cant find the instructions to determine if it works on a viper. The only can it shows is for the srt10 truck. Are the engine bays the same?

[Vprbite]

do any of you have a recommendation for the Gen III? I have an 06 coupe with headers, high flows and corsa...and though I haven't had any problems, I figure a catch can never hurts. Mostly street use. A few track days here and there. A sealed street setup is fine for light track use, right?

This JMB looks nice and extremely affordable. It indicates it is for the pickup truck though. Will it work on the Gen III Viper?

Thanks for reading and your input.

[viper04blk]

I also would like to know what colour matches the viper specialty oil lines

[parabs]

I'm new to "catch-cans" does anyone know if one is made for gen 4 drag pack intake?

[Steve M]

I'm new to "catch-cans" does anyone know if one is made for gen 4 drag pack intake?

Got any pics?

It really depends on what you want to do...if you want to run a vented catch can (like the ACR-X can), it doesn't matter what intake manifold you run since you won't be hooking it back to the intake manifold. The only time it would matter is if you were running a closed loop can (like what I have) that hooks back to the intake manifold. In that case, you just need a handy vacuum port that you can hook it to.

[parabs]

Got any pics?

It really depends on what you want to do...if you want to run a vented catch can (like the ACR-X can), it doesn't matter what intake manifold you run since you won't be hooking it back to the intake manifold. The only time it would matter is if you were running a closed loop can (like what I have) that hooks back to the intake manifold. In that case, you just need a handy vacuum port that you can hook it to.

Like cubican's photos in this thread.

http://driveviper.com/forums/threads/10583-Mopar-Performance-P5156137-head-and-cam-swap

[Mopar'er no car]

do any of you have a recommendation for the Gen III? I have an 06 coupe with headers, high flows and corsa...and though I haven't had any problems, I figure a catch can never hurts. Mostly street use. A few track days here and there. A sealed street setup is fine for light track use, right?

This JMB looks nice and extremely affordable. It indicates it is for the pickup truck though. Will it work on the Gen III Viper?

Thanks for reading and your input.

Justin (JMB ) has one for gen 3 and a ton of powder coat options. ..

[Vprbite]

I want to order the JMB catch can, but i cant find the instructions to determine if it works on a viper. The only can it shows is for the srt10 truck. Are the engine bays the same?

I emailed them and they said while they don't have it listed on the website but they make one for the gen III Viper. They said to order it and just include in the comments that it is for a Viper and not the pickup. I responded to the email asking if it comes with mounting brackets and hardware, I will let you know what the answer it on that as soon as they respond. I didn't send the email untill tonight though so probably not till tomorrow.

[2Luke2]

Justin (JMB ) has one for gen 3 and a ton of powder coat options. ..

Is this the one that you were looking at?

http://jmbperformance.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=82

[Snakebit]

I emailed them and they said while they don't have it listed on the website but they make one for the gen III Viper. They said to order it and just include in the comments that it is for a Viper and not the pickup. I responded to the email asking if it comes with mounting brackets and hardware, I will let you know what the answer it on that as soon as they respond. I didn't send the email untill tonight though so probably not till tomorrow.

Thanks. I'd like to pick one up, also, if ready to mount.

[Vprbite]

Per their email response "catch can is vented, comes with everything needed for install. "

Also I asked about doing the gloss red crinkle and told him I had a red car and he said he recommends that for matching the valve covers nicely.


So, for me being mostly a street guy, what does the vented mean for me vs non vented?

[Mopar'er no car]

Just give justin a call..He is the owner and most likely will answer..He has options for all generations. Seen his stuff on the truck side,he does great work... Had one of his catch cans. It is of the vented design and I never really noticed much coming out of the breather. My truck had 30k on it, some track duty mostly spirited street driving...

[sssammm]

I used this billet can, vented valve cap, no need for a filter15652

[Vprbite]

I was concerned about a vented catch can on a non track car

[viper04blk]

Why are you concerned? is it dangerous?

[06vip]

I have Justin's (JMB) catch can in candy blue on my gen 3. The catch can works great, except the only problem is the horrible smell that vents from the filter. If you have the windows down or have the AC on without it being on recycle, it can give you a headache. Easy solution though, Justin advised me to run a 3/4" hose from the top of the catch can where the filter normally is and run the hose back under the car. On the end of the hose, you then attach the filter. You can mount the filter pretty much anywhere under the car with one or two zip ties. No more smell after doing that.

[J TNT]

After doing a search ,I came up with this thread with lots of good info . Steve M's set up looks real slick ! Has anyone else used the RX Closed loop catch can ?
Seems well thought out . Including the valve cover Breather with attached hose . And dual vacuum hose with check valves to accommodate 1/2 and Full throttle situations.
Here is a link to someone using it on there GEN 3 Viper Truck .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYpt2Cs9TdU

[IndyRon]

After doing a search ,I came up with this thread with lots of good info . Steve M's set up looks real slick ! Has anyone else used the RX Closed loop catch can ?
Seems well thought out . Including the valve cover Breather with attached hose . And dual vacuum hose with check valves to accommodate 1/2 and Full throttle situations.
Here is a link to someone using it on there GEN 3 Viper Truck .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYpt2Cs9TdU

I designed and built this one around Radium Engineering's can. Subsequent to that, this is the one Doug Shelby now offers a Viper specific mounting option to use the same can/system. Mine has been flawless now for quite some time.

http://driveviper.com/forums/threads/2813-Radium-Recirculating-Catch-Can-Install

[sidwin]

so many cars i've helped with we would just pull the hose off the valve cover and run another hose to the ground. smell won't be an issue and stupid simple to do....

[Rocket]

Here was my Gen 4 setup using a closed Radium Engineering System. Have only had it on for a few hundred miles - and not a drop on the dipstick.
http://driveviper.com/gallery/data/500/medium/Rocket_Gen_4_Catch_Can.jpg
http://driveviper.com/forums/threads/12956-My-Gen-4-Catch-Can-Set-Up?highlight=catch

[J TNT]

Thanks IndyRon and Rocket for the input . Here is a link showing different catch cans and internally the difference in effectiveness ranges from 10% to 97% . Some have put a $15.00 clear compressor oil/air separator after the catch can to monitor the effectiveness and as mentioned some catch 10% oil/contaminants and others catch 97% .
Seems that condensing is equally as important as filtering .

http://www.rxspeedworks.com/rx-catch-can/

[ViperCobra]

Got mine from Todd at AC Performance Oil Catch Can :).

[sssammm]

I used this one, vented cap, sight tube, worked great
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[J TNT]

Got mine from Todd at AC Performance Oil Catch Can :).

Do you have any pictures of your set up ?
Thanks ! :)

[shnickerlaus]

Wasn't the prettiest hose fix but it will work. Nice carbon fibre can so with the close out carbon on the way should look pretty nice under the hood

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[viper04blk]

i keep seeing pictures of the passenger side...does our driver side connect to the passenger side and then connect to the intake?

[Steve M]

i keep seeing pictures of the passenger side...does our driver side connect to the passenger side and then connect to the intake?

Depends on the generation we're talking about - for the Gen 4, the dirty side comes from the passenger side valve cover and goes into the intake manifold under vacuum. There's a line on the driver's side valve cover as well, but that one is the make-up air (clean) side - that line runs from the air box to the engine, and is not under vacuum. You can still get oil in this line under heavy braking, but for the most part it stays clean, at least on mine.

I'm not sure how the Gen 3 PCV system is routed, but I do know that it is different.

[viper04blk]

I am going to scope mine out.

Any negative side effects for plugging off the intake port and running a rubber hose from the motor to the bottom of the car? I really dont care to catch this oil.... i am fine with it dripping.

[Steve M]

I am going to scope mine out.

Any negative side effects for plugging off the intake port and running a rubber hose from the motor to the bottom of the car? I really dont care to catch this oil.... i am fine with it dripping.

It wouldn't be my first choice - I remember hearing that this was how it was done on old school muscle cars, but I'd just be leery of spewing oil where it could potentially end up under the rear tires.

[viper04blk]

Excellent point.... i will go back researching which oil catch can to purchase

[06SRTCoupe]

I went with this one and it looks and performs great! The construction is top notch and so is the finish. Also, it's reasonably priced.

http://www.42draftdesigns.com/ultimate-oil-catch-can/

[viper04blk]

I am looking for one that is specifically designed for our cars. I want all the parts to perfect ... no surprises

[06SRTCoupe]

I am looking for one that is specifically designed for our cars. I want all the parts to perfect ... no surprises

A catch can is a catch can. It has nothing to do with the car you own. The principle is all the same. The guys in here that made their own used different universal catch cans...

[viper04blk]

I understand that. I was hoping to find a "kit" that is viper specific. The mounting bracket / location of install / hose length / hose clamps all compatible and ready to go in. But I cant find one.

I will most likely get a JMB performance one, as they allow you to customize the color to match the aftermarket oil lines. And the price is good.

[06SRTCoupe]

I understand that. I was hoping to find a "kit" that is viper specific. The mounting bracket / location of install / hose length / hose clamps all compatible and ready to go in. But I cant find one.

I will most likely get a JMB performance one, as they allow you to customize the color to match the aftermarket oil lines. And the price is good.

The only one I know if that is like that is the A&C Performance catch can setup. Check it out on their website or give Todd a call. Every one of their products is top notch and I have never had better customer service.

[Mopar'er no car]

The Kit from JMB will come with everything you will need..I didn't want to drill the upper cross over support. I made a bracket out of rubber coated galvanized steele...

[Jknappster]

For those with a Paxton car, where did you mount your catch can?

[FrgMstr]

For those with a Paxton car, where did you mount your catch can?

This is where Doug Levin put it in 2004.

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[sadil]

ACRX can still available?

[pokeyl]

Amazon works perfect, I added a PCV valve as well.
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[Stealth78]

Three words - Doug Shelby Engineering

[13COBRA]

Three words - Doug Shelby Engineering

+1,000,000

[LateToTheParty]

Wanted to share my setup I just installed on my Gen IV. I think it came out pretty well after piecing everything together.

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc400/ptibbett/20180726_092122_resized_zpsifqbxx3b.jpg (http://s1209.photobucket.com/user/ptibbett/media/20180726_092122_resized_zpsifqbxx3b.jpg.html)

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc400/ptibbett/20180726_091123_resized_zpsc9fa8qqy.jpg (http://s1209.photobucket.com/user/ptibbett/media/20180726_091123_resized_zpsc9fa8qqy.jpg.html)

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc400/ptibbett/27e35096-7309-4eda-bf63-51e03aa5e8e6_zpshgbmbszv.jpg (http://s1209.photobucket.com/user/ptibbett/media/27e35096-7309-4eda-bf63-51e03aa5e8e6_zpshgbmbszv.jpg.html)

[viperBase1]

Wanted to share my setup I just installed on my Gen IV. I think it came out pretty well after piecing everything together.

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc400/ptibbett/20180726_092122_resized_zpsifqbxx3b.jpg (http://s1209.photobucket.com/user/ptibbett/media/20180726_092122_resized_zpsifqbxx3b.jpg.html)

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc400/ptibbett/20180726_091123_resized_zpsc9fa8qqy.jpg (http://s1209.photobucket.com/user/ptibbett/media/20180726_091123_resized_zpsc9fa8qqy.jpg.html)

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc400/ptibbett/27e35096-7309-4eda-bf63-51e03aa5e8e6_zpshgbmbszv.jpg (http://s1209.photobucket.com/user/ptibbett/media/27e35096-7309-4eda-bf63-51e03aa5e8e6_zpshgbmbszv.jpg.html)
Hey Late, that looks awesome!

I already have the DSE CC, but curious.. Another Summit Racing kit you assembled? How much $?

[LateToTheParty]

Hey Late, that looks awesome!

I already have the DSE CC, but curious.. Another Summit Racing kit you assembled? How much $?

Oh Thanks. Yeah it's mostly Summit stuff and a 6oz Turner can/bracket kit. Not trying to take any business from the site vendors since I buy a bunch of stuff from them too, but i figured it's something to share with everyone.

I used the 90 degree bracket and cut it down so the mounting face wasn't so long... didn't use the can drain kit supplied with it either. About $270 later, that's how it turned out.

Funny thing is, I used -12 AN hose with the -10 AN barbs because of the different sizing specs... Hose ID and barb OD mated perfectly along with the heat shrink hose clamps.

http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc400/ptibbett/Capture_zpsdnmsaeoq.png (http://s1209.photobucket.com/user/ptibbett/media/Capture_zpsdnmsaeoq.png.html)

[Viper4Life]

Is this can absolutely necessary or is this more so if you track your car and really rack on the the miles? Should i make it a point to invest in this?

[viperBase1]

Awesome Late!
Any and all options are good thing. Especially for a car that's WAY out of production.


Should i make it a point to invest in this?

Yea, definitely. Every car should have one.. Every Viper deserves one.

[Steve M]

Is this can absolutely necessary or is this more so if you track your car and really rack on the the miles? Should i make it a point to invest in this?

On my '08, the only evidence I needed to see was the throttle bodies when I remove the intake and tubes - there were snail trails of oil on the bottom of both. It is very necessary IMO, even on a street car.

[TOXIC 10]

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https://www.nukeperformance.com/

Any thoughts?