View Full Version : When cold 1st to 2nd gear hard to engage Need help change fluid
Mark1107
03-07-2020, 11:23 AM
Like the thread says when I first start the car up and start driving its hard to put the car in second gear. 1st, 3rd,4th, 5th, 6th are all fine when cold.
After the car warms up 2nd gear is fine, no issues only on the first 3-5 2nd gear shifts.
Can I lubricate the clutch? Lubricate the shifter? Drop oil down the stick shift? Go with different fluid?
Obviously im not very technical, (besides being the immature drama queen on here, which I apologize) so please guys point me in the right direction.
Cheers!
Mark
(A reformed drama queen who loves ALL Vipers again!)
Jack B
03-07-2020, 12:48 PM
I would change the fluid and stay with the mopar fluid. What you are describing could be the wrong fluid.
Old School
03-07-2020, 12:51 PM
The 1-2 shift is always the problem child with stick shifts for a few reasons. First, it's the one that gets the most abuse, so the syncro gets worn out the quickest. Second, it has the largest RPM drop, so the syncro has more effort to get the clutch and transmission gears spinning the new, lower RPM. And third, the gear ratio itself, 2nd gear has less mechanical advantage than the higher gears to match RPM.
Yes, pour a quart of gear oil down your shifter boot and she will be good to go!
swexlin
03-07-2020, 02:42 PM
Sure you're just not experiencing the skip shift? I always have to make sure I rev high enough in 1st so it doesn't force to to 4th in traffic!
98intrigue
03-07-2020, 02:55 PM
My advice is don’t rip on it until it’s warmed up. I’ve always noticed harder shifts when the fluid isn’t up to operating temp.
Mark1107
03-07-2020, 04:14 PM
Thanks guys! I have the CAGS skip shift eliminator installed. I will swap out the fluid.
JonB ~ PartsRack
03-07-2020, 04:30 PM
Thanks guys! I have the CAGS skip shift eliminator installed. I will swap out the fluid.
G 5 ??? This is G5 forum.......the year matters....
Steve M
03-07-2020, 06:30 PM
This is fairly normal behavior for a TR-6060 (same for a T-56)...as long as it clears up once the fluid is warm, there's likely nothing wrong. Fresh fluid certainly can't hurt, but it likely won't help, at least not for long. The thicker the oil you use in the transmission, the worse that problem is. As already advised, don't beat on it until the fluid is warm.
ViperJon
03-07-2020, 07:06 PM
G 5 ??? This is G5 forum.......the year matters....
His signature and the forum he posted in might be a clue.
blingnoring
03-07-2020, 07:22 PM
His signature and the forum he posted in might be a clue.
lol I love Viper Jon
Jack B
03-08-2020, 12:13 AM
This is fairly normal behavior for a TR-6060 (same for a T-56)...as long as it clears up once the fluid is warm, there's likely nothing wrong. Fresh fluid certainly can't hurt, but it likely won't help, at least not for long. The thicker the oil you use in the transmission, the worse that problem is. As already advised, don't beat on it until the fluid is warm.
My point was, if you are not the original owner, the wrong (heavier when cold) fluid could have been used. There is a lot of misinformation on the correct trans fluid.
Mark1107
03-08-2020, 12:30 AM
Lol, Viper Jon!
My car is a 2014 GTS. It had 2500 miles on it but never titled when I bought it. I doubt any service was done prior to purchase.
Thanks Steve m and Jack b for the advice.
ACRSNK
03-08-2020, 08:05 AM
As others have said start with a fluid change and see how it goes from there even with 2500 miles the fluid could have been changed I changed my tranny fluid at 500 miles
Jack B
03-08-2020, 03:22 PM
As others have said start with a fluid change and see how it goes from there even with 2500 miles the fluid could have been changed I changed my tranny fluid at 500 miles
And it is cheap
bluesrt
03-09-2020, 08:56 AM
G 5 ??? This is G5 forum.......the year matters....
don't really think the year matters on this one, if it don't shift like butter, its messed up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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