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TKO MOTORSPORTS TEAM
10-23-2019, 01:28 PM
Few pics one of our builds. Viper GT3R. The pics are of day 10 i think. I will see if i can find some pics of actual day one if people want to see all the real progression from start t finish.40315

Gen5snake
10-23-2019, 01:35 PM
Eye candy! Thanks for sharing.

chris_lee
10-23-2019, 01:36 PM
Wow! The hood looks crazy good. Keep those pics coming!

Old School
10-23-2019, 02:22 PM
That there is what you call a "serious effort".

Arizona Vipers
10-23-2019, 02:24 PM
Sick! So is the frame scratch built? What is "stock" on the car?

Viperpowered
10-23-2019, 03:47 PM
Street car/track car? As soon as I hit the lotto I'll buy a dozen. Awesome car!!!!

Murpowa
10-23-2019, 04:34 PM
Awesome build. Please keep us updated!

Fulltilt
10-23-2019, 04:55 PM
Best thing I have seen in a while. I wanna know how much the body costs..........................................but it doesn't matter, lol.

Exhlr8n
10-23-2019, 05:14 PM
Drop dead gorgeous...Have you guys decided on Eng/tranny combo yet?

Scott_in_fl
10-23-2019, 05:36 PM
Holy Shiite!!! That is nuts.

Does it take that much fab work just to fit the body, or is the custom framework for other purposes (i.e. better geometry, ease of maintenance/repair, lighter weight)?

ACR-ISH
10-23-2019, 05:48 PM
Best thing I have seen in a while. I wanna know how much the body costs..........................................but it doesn't matter, lol.

I already asked! Marty disclosed... "It's not cheap, but it's REAL NICE."

Arizona Vipers
10-23-2019, 06:18 PM
There's a guy here in Arizona with a Comp Coupe that has that body on it

str5010
10-23-2019, 06:25 PM
There's a guy here in Arizona with a Comp Coupe that has that body on it

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Arizona Vipers
10-23-2019, 06:26 PM
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Yep that's it. Sequential etc too. I believe the car is for sale

cashcorn
10-23-2019, 07:31 PM
Badass.. Luv the flames!!

Pappy
10-23-2019, 08:58 PM
Absolutely awesome! What's the target weight?

Pappy

Snakebit10
10-24-2019, 06:49 AM
Oh my....Just Beautiful. Cant wait to see this all done. Will the interior be racecar spartan or will it have a livable interior? Mind you I dont mean plush. Just a finished interior with lightweight panel covers etc?

If its going to be a covered interior then this will be the way the ACR should have come from the factory in many of our eyes. I remember when we first saw the GT3 R body. Many thought the ACR should have that body over the street car chassis. Sounds like you are doing something to that effect....

Of course my question is towards the build that kept the Vipers passenger chassis part.

ViperNC
10-24-2019, 08:49 AM
Love it. Any chance that grill is a separate carbon piece? If so, I want one for my Gen V to replace the crappy molded plastic!

13COBRA
10-24-2019, 09:08 AM
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That is gorgeous.

ACR-ISH
10-24-2019, 10:22 AM
That is gorgeous.

Kinda makes me want my mommy... wow!

Dustin
10-24-2019, 11:11 AM
Amazing, End goals here

Simms
10-24-2019, 01:23 PM
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I think those are different body panels. TKO's car is using the GT3-R body panels from Riley. The car pictured is using the same company McCann used on their G5R. Can't remember the name.

Simms
10-24-2019, 01:26 PM
Few pics one of our builds. Viper GT3R. The pics are of day 10 i think. I will see if i can find some pics of actual day one if people want to see all the real progression from start t finish.40315

VERY cool! What will one of these builds cost?

serpent
10-24-2019, 01:50 PM
Engine either 9.0 liter 850Hp N/A or 9.0 Liter 750HP N/A. Running on our EFI technologies.
Trans we are using one of our holinger RD6 sequential gear box conversion kits. Paddle shift. absolutely bomb proof trans easily hold 1000HP 800 ftlb and very low maintenance.
Who is building the motor? dang this is going to be epic.
Hope you guys bring it to sonoma since you're rather.. ahem.. close by.

LOL

str5010
10-24-2019, 02:56 PM
I think those are different body panels. TKO's car is using the GT3-R body panels from Riley. The car pictured is using the same company McCann used on their G5R. Can't remember the name.

Yeah I just posted it for Arizona's reference.

ACR-ISH
10-25-2019, 11:46 AM
we have a few Arrow/Prefix motors laying around so they will be first motors in car.

Only a few huh...? It's bad to let them sit, you know Marty? If you need my Gen5 to babysit one in it's engine bay, lemme know!

13COBRA
10-25-2019, 12:16 PM
I want those sideskirts for my car.

ACR-ISH
10-25-2019, 01:10 PM
You know ACR-ISH 9.0 liter builds with reliable 750-800HP are not as exotic and far out of reach as you think.

I've heard for overall reliability the 9.0 sacrifices that to "some". Degree. All statements have varying degrees of opinions. 750-800whp...? Tell me more about this thing I think I now need as soon as possible!

With proper tuning it should fly through CA emissions, too? I would imagine it can run all OEM sensors in closed loop and be okay? Obviously it's not "technically CA legal" but my smog guy just wants it to plug in and pass.

Ya dig?

ViperNC
10-25-2019, 01:19 PM
You know ACR-ISH 9.0 liter builds with reliable 750-800HP are not as exotic and far out of reach as you think.

Very strong and reliable setup. I love mine.

Arizona Vipers
10-25-2019, 01:48 PM
I've heard for overall reliability the 9.0 sacrifices that to "some". Degree. All statements have varying degrees of opinions. 750-800whp...? Tell me more about this thing I think I now need as soon as possible!

With proper tuning it should fly through CA emissions, too? I would imagine it can run all OEM sensors in closed loop and be okay? Obviously it's not "technically CA legal" but my smog guy just wants it to plug in and pass.

Ya dig?

I ran my prefix 9.0 730whp motor for over a year hard on the track, no issues. Just got it back with over 800whp, dying to get it back out on the track, not until November 16th. Did you hear of some blown up 9.0's?

ACR-ISH
10-25-2019, 03:26 PM
Reliability is good 9.0L N/A is pretty basic. The trick is oiling and tune no matter stock motor, 9.0L N/A or some big twin turbo setup. If you road race the factory oil pan is the weak point for sure. Adding the extra qt of oil trick helps but its not the best fix. We have 2 fixes for the oil pan problem dry sump system or our racing oil pan coming out this next year. Reliable tune is also very important. Road race you dont need max HP you need endurance and reliability. Cali emissions usually no problem. Visual easy pass. We are now working with a motor builder we have faith in. When your ready pm me.

Let's see how I navigate Sonoma with 640HP before I go trying to make an additional 200WHP!

Scott_in_fl
10-25-2019, 04:59 PM
^^^ Yeah, I can't imagine reliability being an issue for the 9L. We're talking about a large 10 cylinder engine that any of the good engine builders will tell you has no issue handling quite a bit more power than what a 9L puts out. And these are the guys beating on them at 1/2 mile and 1 mile events. Only issue has been oiling. Accusump should ease all concern.

Pappy
10-25-2019, 05:42 PM
Speaking of street legal, will you have any trouble with the state of CA with the Earnhardt bar obstructing forward vision?

Pappy

Scott_in_fl
10-25-2019, 06:36 PM
^^^ Definitely paint it black to conceal its presence at the very least.

Scot@Prefix
10-25-2019, 06:43 PM
We had a brand new 9.0L 850HP melt the top end at the vegas viper meeting. We were just shaking down the car with our shocks,suspension and aero package on it. We lapped the field on just about every session. Motor made great power and very usable. Last session of the day driver said car felt sluggish loss of power shut down and rolled in. All temps and pressure good no warnings. Pulled motor rebuilt and and ECU corrected by motor builder. Been running great ever since.

Thats interesting since you told us the temps were high with water in the 270 plus range, and the driver continued to run the car.
There was over 11,000 changes in the ECU calibration, when compared to our calibration that is included with the 9L.
All pistons showed sign of detonation. Fuel pressure may have been an issue as well since it was not monitored.

NT-ACR
10-25-2019, 10:35 PM
Lol. This is getting interesting now.

Fatboy 18
10-26-2019, 03:49 AM
Few pics one of our builds. Viper GT3R. The pics are of day 10 i think. I will see if i can find some pics of actual day one if people want to see all the real progression from start t finish.40315

I know this is essentially race car build with Chassis stiffening and Geometry (and much more), But I have to ask......the pic showing the door, the gaps are Horrid? Is that the final fit or is everything still to be adjusted?

Sorry to pour rain on the parade :(

Fatboy 18
10-27-2019, 11:36 AM
Sounds Awesome, and thanks for the reply.
I always wished that the Viper team in Le man's would (when facing a non win) bring one of the cars into the garage, unrestrict it and then go back out on track for a couple of laps and show the crowd what the cars really could do!
Yeah they would have got a black flag but it would have been a great way to go out.

serpent
10-28-2019, 11:22 AM
Lol. This is getting interesting now.
Lol, you are always chiming in when theres action!

Camfab
10-28-2019, 06:55 PM
Unrestricted or limited rules.... like racing use to be and should be today.

Couldn’t agree more. I can see why OEM’s hate to go racing, 98% of the problems stem from sanctioning bodies catering to the highest bidder.

Arizona Vipers
10-30-2019, 02:48 PM
40452 Our TKO Holinger RD6 transmission kit for the Dodge viper getting ready to go into our GT3R viper build for fit and header exhaust build. TKO holinger trans conversion absolutely the best transmission to handle the power of any viper. The base for our kit is the Holinger RD6 trans; Handles 1000HP and 800ftlbs with zero problems, paddle shift or bump shift. Extremely low maintenance, dozens of gear ratios, compact design. We absolutely love these transmissions and The guys at holinger were great to work with.

Does the paddle shifted setup do no-lift shifts? Without motec? What controls it?

EX1
10-30-2019, 03:17 PM
Incredible fab work. I'm just over waiting for those exhaust systems to come out.

Bill Pemberton
11-01-2019, 06:43 AM
Unreal machines , so incredibly cool all the stuff you have done since we first chatted about your project. The end result is 100 times cooler than I contemplated, you guys are beyond talented! Thanks for the post , I know everyone is pleased and stunned.

TKO MOTORSPORTS TEAM
11-01-2019, 10:54 AM
Unreal machines , so incredibly cool all the stuff you have done since we first chatted about your project. The end result is 100 times cooler than I contemplated, you guys are beyond talented! Thanks for the post , I know everyone is pleased and stunned.

Morning Bill. You guys at Woodhouse auto family have always been top notch and treated us very well. Your compliments are very much appreciated thank you.

TKO MOTORSPORTS TEAM
11-22-2019, 11:32 AM
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11-22-2019, 11:34 AM
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13COBRA
11-22-2019, 11:34 AM
Drool.

kriskyk
11-22-2019, 11:46 AM
No Motec. We work with EFI technologies. EFI technologies is much easier to work with then Motec. EFI also allows us to custom build into the system whatever data and systems we need. Yes no lift shifts , blip down all completely adjustable and full data on all of it.


Is it more or less than Motec?

Was quoted $13k-$16k for Motec installed by other shops

TKO MOTORSPORTS TEAM
11-22-2019, 12:33 PM
Kirskyk EFI tech is about the same price as Motec. But EFI is alot easier to deal with and work with. EFI is also easier to customize to your application and expand for data integration, paddle or bump shift, braking, driver aids etc.

Exhlr8n
11-22-2019, 03:40 PM
Coming along nicely...Can't wait to see it carving up the tracks!

ayousef
11-22-2019, 05:08 PM
Marty I just died, will stick to my poor ACR for the time being lol.

ViperNC
11-23-2019, 10:12 AM
That's some straight up hard core Viper Porn right there. Eager to see that beast turning wheels in anger.

stradman
11-23-2019, 10:35 AM
Thats some fab work guys! Congrats.
Can I ask, do you think you might in the future offer a plug and play conversion for the ACR? I'm out in Europe and would be great and much easier to be able to get something sent over here to fit in. With my 9L in place now, I reckon the gearbox is the only limitation in terms of the ultimate ability of this car on track...

TKO MOTORSPORTS TEAM
11-23-2019, 03:31 PM
Marty I just died, will stick to my poor ACR for the time being lol.

Its a street car ayousef drive it to the track and drive it home; makes it a wee bit more justifiable. Its got AC and will never over heat. More power and better brakes.

TKO MOTORSPORTS TEAM
11-23-2019, 03:39 PM
Thats some fab work guys! Congrats.
Can I ask, do you think you might in the future offer a plug and play conversion for the ACR? I'm out in Europe and would be great and much easier to be able to get something sent over here to fit in. With my 9L in place now, I reckon the gearbox is the only limitation in terms of the ultimate ability of this car on track...

Hello stradman good to see people having fun with vipers in Europe. The mods are so extensive to get the carbon body to fit and everything else to work correctly its not and easy bolt on conversion unfortunately . We remove about 70% of the factory viper and rebuild it. We wish it could be a simple body conversion people could install but to do it correctly and take advantage of all the performance you gotta go all in. We are building 2 of these Street Viper GT3Rs maybe 3. They will be faster then the original racecars since we are not governed by homologation rules.

stradman
11-23-2019, 03:42 PM
Hello stradman good to see people having fun with vipers in Europe. The mods are so extensive to get the carbon body to fit and everything else to work correctly its not and easy bolt on conversion unfortunately . We remove about 70% of the factory viper and rebuild it. We wish it could be a simple body conversion people could install but to do it correctly and take advantage of all the performance you gotta go all in. We are building 2 of these Street Viper GT3Rs maybe 3. They will be faster then the original racecars since we are not governed by homologation rules.

No I understand that buddy. No way I would do all of that, fantastic though it is. No I was referring to the gearbox only...

8400cc
11-24-2019, 02:52 PM
Reliability is good 9.0L N/A is pretty basic. The trick is oiling and tune no matter stock motor, 9.0L N/A or some big twin turbo setup. If you road race the factory oil pan is the weak point for sure. Adding the extra qt of oil trick helps but its not the best fix. We have 2 fixes for the oil pan problem dry sump system or our racing oil pan coming out this next year. Reliable tune is also very important. Road race you dont need max HP you need endurance and reliability. Cali emissions usually no problem. Visual easy pass. We are now working with a motor builder we have faith in. When your ready pm me.

What specific changes will there be to the oil pan, primarily baffling ?

Matt Dillon
11-24-2019, 10:41 PM
Wow, I can Understand Now! SMDH

TKO MOTORSPORTS TEAM
11-25-2019, 10:57 AM
No I understand that buddy. No way I would do all of that, fantastic though it is. No I was referring to the gearbox only...

Morning Stradman. Sorry i misunderstood. The gearbox we already offer a conversion kit. Our kit is not an adapted factory gear box case or some make shift piece. Same gear box we run in our racecars and some very aggression street cars. Its a very low maintenance and easy to live with gear box. But definitely for the full tilt boogy viper owner.

TKOSROD1452K DODGE VIPER HOLINGER 6 SPEED SEQUENTIAL TRANSMISSION
The TKO motorsports dodge viper Holinger 6 speed transmission is a great performance upgrade for any twin turbo or supercharged viper making over 1000hp. TKO motorsports Holinger 6 speed was specifically designed and built for maximum performance and reliability even in the most extreme dodge viper applications.

SLP
11-25-2019, 11:34 AM
Morning 8400cc. Our racing oil pan will fix all the factory oil pan problems. Lack of volume, baffling, oil pick up, etc. It will be more affordable then our dry sump system for the viper owners who track their cars occasionally.

I am glad to hear that your oil pan would cost less than your $12,740 dry sump system :D! Any idea what the price will roughly be? It looks like the OEM pan/baffling is around $560.

SRT BILL
11-25-2019, 01:23 PM
Morning SLP
Ya our dry sump system is not cheap but you get what you pay for. Its more for the real serious track junkie viper owner, but its a bargain when you have 50-70K wrapped up in your motor and you want the absolute best oiling system money can buy.
Our racing oil pan is a completely new all aluminum oil pan. Im not sure about the OEM pan/ baffling 560.00? We do know the factory oil pan is a big problem and is inadequate in many areas. If you use your viper at the track or spirited driving even with the add qt of oil trick it can be a dice roll.

Can't say I've ever heard of the add qt of oil trick. Could please explain. Thanks

Old School
11-25-2019, 01:43 PM
Can't say I've ever heard of the add qt of oil trick. Could please explain. Thanks

https://driveviper.com/forums/threads/22013-Whats-your-preferred-oil/page2

bluesrt
11-25-2019, 02:05 PM
adding a extra quart of oil is great insurance if your running it like a dog with a factory oil pan, its nothing new

stradman
11-25-2019, 03:30 PM
Morning Stradman. Sorry i misunderstood. The gearbox we already offer a conversion kit. Our kit is not an adapted factory gear box case or some make shift piece. Same gear box we run in our racecars and some very aggression street cars. Its a very low maintenance and easy to live with gear box. But definitely for the full tilt boogy viper owner.

TKOSROD1452K DODGE VIPER HOLINGER 6 SPEED SEQUENTIAL TRANSMISSION
The TKO motorsports dodge viper Holinger 6 speed transmission is a great performance upgrade for any twin turbo or supercharged viper making over 1000hp. TKO motorsports Holinger 6 speed was specifically designed and built for maximum performance and reliability even in the most extreme dodge viper applications.

That's great. Thanks for info. I checked out your website but it doesn't seem to have a price for the sequential transmission. Where would I get this info?. If I did go down this route, the paddle shift option would be the one I'd do.

SRT BILL
11-25-2019, 05:03 PM
Thanks for all the information guys.