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Brute
10-11-2019, 12:42 PM
Hello,
Long time lurker, owner of pre-loved 2014 Viper.

I've noticed that my car idles high (~1200 rpm) until oil temp goes above 180 deg (which can take awhile). Anyone else have this issue? Any ideas on why/how to correct?

Thx,
Brute

BSLSK
10-11-2019, 01:06 PM
This owner had a similar issue in this thread: https://driveviper.com/forums/threads/24743-High-idle-or-maybe-its-normal?highlight=idle

Brute
10-12-2019, 01:24 PM
Thanks

ViperGTS14
10-12-2019, 04:54 PM
Yup that is me, talked to the tech. Last flash update from Dodge had a higher idle set to 1000 rpm. Why,,, no one knows.

dirtyboot
10-14-2019, 02:59 PM
I remember reading the old article referenced above - but it never specified, is the idle high on start-up only, or after engine reaches temp? In your case OP, ~180* is considered operating temp for the viper, every engine I've had would idle high until operating temps are reached, then settle to their typical rpm. Bikes, cars; inlines or v style; they've all done it.

ViperGTS14
10-14-2019, 03:09 PM
It doesn't matter since its calling for 1000 rpm which the tech showed it was requesting. It makes no sense but I'm starting to see a lot of things that don't make sense when it comes to the viper world.

dirtyboot
10-14-2019, 03:44 PM
It doesn't matter since its calling for 1000 rpm which the tech showed it was requesting. It makes no sense but I'm starting to see a lot of things that don't make sense when it comes to the viper world.

yeah in your case I'm not sure why the new flash standard is 1000 rpm. Hopefully someone who has had interaction with Dick Winkles or another highly involved member can shed some insight on that. Maybe it's due to the universal standards like the oil weight; being meant to be a 1 size fits most for climate exposure?

Brute
10-15-2019, 10:01 PM
Yes, mine will idle down to ~750 after the oil temp goes above 180. Ive never had a car have to get that warm before idling down. It takes awhile (even here in Vegas), and the idle will go back up if the temp drops below 180. Doesn't seem like the other Gen Vs ive seen do this. My Gen 2 did'nt??

SRT_BluByU
10-16-2019, 03:43 AM
0-40w oil may have something to do with it.. at idle oil pressure could be low (especially with the oil at a thin viscosity). Might just be easier on the bearings to up the idle a bit till.it warms up.

ViperGTS14
10-16-2019, 04:00 PM
yeah in your case I'm not sure why the new flash standard is 1000 rpm. Hopefully someone who has had interaction with Dick Winkles or another highly involved member can shed some insight on that. Maybe it's due to the universal standards like the oil weight; being meant to be a 1 size fits most for climate exposure?

Agree it would be interesting to learn why the change to the newest flash. One thing is for sure, if I do underdrive pulleys I should be good to go at idle lol

SRT_BluByU
10-16-2019, 07:50 PM
Anyone elses doing this? Mine doesnt and i would think i have the latest flash.. ?

dirtyboot
10-17-2019, 09:34 AM
Agree it would be interesting to learn why the change to the newest flash. One thing is for sure, if I do underdrive pulleys I should be good to go at idle lol

:lol2: true!

ViperGeorge
10-17-2019, 10:36 AM
Agree it would be interesting to learn why the change to the newest flash. One thing is for sure, if I do underdrive pulleys I should be good to go at idle lol

An underdrive pulley won't make the engine idle at a lower RPM although it will turn accessories at a slower speed. I suppose you knew that but I thought I should clarify for those that don't.

blingnoring
10-17-2019, 11:08 AM
replace the battery. Sorry ViperGeorge I couldn't resist. :D

Gen5snake
10-17-2019, 11:13 AM
Anyone elses doing this? Mine doesnt and i would think i have the latest flash.. ?

I definitely have the latest flash and my idle is fine.

ViperGeorge
10-17-2019, 11:19 AM
replace the battery. Sorry ViperGeorge I couldn't resist. :D

LOL. Now that's funny!!

chris_lee
10-17-2019, 11:33 AM
LOL. Now that's funny!!

Funny with a 50% chance of working. Just kidding... or not. lol