Throttle Response Adjuster

[SA Heat]

Does anyone have a TKO/JMS throttle response adjuster installed on a Gen IV? There's a pretty good thread on it on the Gen V forum (outside of one guy being an a-hole)....I expect the Gen IV results would be the same but would like to hear results on a 2008-10 if someone has one.

https://driveviper.com/forums/threads/24971-Any-Fix-Yet-for-Gen-V-Lazy-Throttle-Off-Idle/page6

https://tkomotorsports.com/product/2008-2017-viper-adjustable-max-throttle-response/

[13COBRA]

I'll let you know when I get it installed.

For reference, I have the Arrow reflashed PCM, 10% lower UD Pulley, BBG clutch/flywheel, and 3.55s.

[viperBase1]

I'm very interested too.. but also a little apprehensive. As if my Viper needs more power, speed and responsiveness.:dude3:

My only issue with the current throttle response is the "flat spot". Sounds like this should resolve the dreaded "flat spot" nicely.

I'd also like to learn more about which PCM to use with this device. (?)
I saw a little bit of talk about this on the GenV thread, but don't recall a clear answer/strategy for implementation.

I have the Stock PCM and an Arrow/ACR PCM (which needs to go in for a re-flash).
N' to that effect, how a re-flash on the ACR PCM would interact with the magical TKO device?
N' should Arrow take the magical TKO device into consideration for the re-flash?

Really looking forward to the first GenIV hands-on review.

[Rmj]

Easy install...works great. Very responsive throttle. Just an FYI, it does work with the snakeoyl cruise control piggybacked.

[Rmj]

Oh...and it works with any pcm. Mine is an arrow flashed mopar performance, works great. Really has nothing to do with pcm or programming.

[SA Heat]

I'm very interested too.. but also a little apprehensive. As if my Viper needs more power, speed and responsiveness.:dude3:

My only issue with the current throttle response is the "flat spot". Sounds like this should resolve the dreaded "flat spot" nicely.

I'd also like to learn more about which PCM to use with this device. (?)
I saw a little bit of talk about this on the GenV thread, but don't recall a clear answer/strategy for implementation.

I have the Stock PCM and an Arrow/ACR PCM (which needs to go in for a re-flash).
N' to that effect, how a re-flash on the ACR PCM would interact with the magical TKO device?
N' should Arrow take the magical TKO device into consideration for the re-flash?

Really looking forward to the first GenIV hands-on review.

Weren't the Arrow PCMs/reflash supposed to take care of some of the lazy throttle response by themselves? (Same question to you @13COBRA and @Rmj)

[ACR-ISH]

I'm very interested too.. but also a little apprehensive. As if my Viper needs more power, speed and responsiveness.:dude3:

My only issue with the current throttle response is the "flat spot". Sounds like this should resolve the dreaded "flat spot" nicely.

I'd also like to learn more about which PCM to use with this device. (?)
I saw a little bit of talk about this on the GenV thread, but don't recall a clear answer/strategy for implementation.

I have the Stock PCM and an Arrow/ACR PCM (which needs to go in for a re-flash).
N' to that effect, how a re-flash on the ACR PCM would interact with the magical TKO device?
N' should Arrow take the magical TKO device into consideration for the re-flash?

Really looking forward to the first GenIV hands-on review.

Call Marty. He is happy to discuss those ECU options. I believe he said it's designed to work with your Arrow or Stock PCM. I don't think the type of PCM changes the functionality, only improves the pedal sensitivity, so maybe it's multiplied if the PCM already addresses the issue to some degree?

Martin: 775 857-1913

[ACR-ISH]

Does anyone have a TKO/JMS throttle response adjuster installed on a Gen IV? There's a pretty good thread on it on the Gen V forum (outside of one guy being an a-hole)....I expect the Gen IV results would be the same but would like to hear results on a 2008-10 if someone has one.

Hopefully I'm not the "one a-hole"...

[SA Heat]

Hopefully I'm not the "one a-hole"...

No, definitely not.

[ACR-ISH]

No, definitely not.

Finally...

:D

[13COBRA]

Weren't the Arrow PCMs/reflash supposed to take care of some of the lazy throttle response by themselves? (Same question to you @13COBRA and @Rmj)

Yes, and it was a huge step in the right direction. But you can still tell it's a DBW system.

[SA Heat]

Yes, and it was a huge step in the right direction. But you can still tell it's a DBW system.

Gotcha...thanks.

[Rmj]

Arrow/exhaust/pulley helped for sure. Pedalmax much more improved. Hard to describe..more responsive, even touchy pedal, depending on where it’s adjusted. Definitely a necessary mod in my opinion.

[viperBase1]

Hopefully I'm not the "one a-hole"...


No, definitely not.


Finally...

:D
It was me wasn't it? :eek:



I'll let you know when I get it installed.
For reference, I have the Arrow reflashed PCM, 10% lower UD Pulley, BBG clutch/flywheel, and 3.55s.
Except for the clutch & flywheel.. same setup here.

Looking forward to your review. :cool:

[SA Heat]

^^^^

Haa, no! T'was the guy getting shitty with the TKO rep (and others).

[ACR-ISH]

^^^^

Haa, no! T'was the guy getting shitty with the TKO rep (and others).

Yeah figured. And after jamming up my thread asked a ridiculous question about a rear diffuser that isn't even out. LOL... C'mon bro!

[efnfast]

I've ordered the TKO one from the gen V thread ... I have high hopes!

[viperBase1]

Weren't the Arrow PCMs/reflash supposed to take care of some of the lazy throttle response by themselves? (Same question to you @13COBRA and @Rmj)


Yes, and it was a huge step in the right direction. But you can still tell it's a DBW system.
Based on the above, an executive decision has been made!

Last night, I re-installed the stock PCM (pulled the Arrow/ACR unit).
Originally I was planning on sending the Arrow unit in for a re-flash but have changed my mind.
The Arrow PCM was a bit better, but it wasn't a complete solution for the feel of the pedal.
I realize it did more than just "throttle response", but still feel like its time to go in a different direction.

I'm going to stick with the stock PCM and try this Throttle Maximizer and maybe even add an Auto-Blip type device.
Happy to hang out and wait for the reviews of the TKO rev-matcher unit.
The rev-matching on the Porsche is schweet and I'd dig having it in the Viper too.

No doubt it will be better for a California Viper to live this way.
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[13COBRA]

Worth every penny.

The easiest way to explain how it works...

If you press your throttle to 30%...after installing TKOs part....the throttle sensor thinks it's pressed to 45% (just guesstimate) when you have it tuned to 25%.

I dialed it up to 100%, because come on who wouldn't...and if you press your throttle to 30% to sensor thinks it's at 100%. It's too jerky in that configuration to use on a road course, but would be excellent for rolling runs!

Money well spent!

[ACR-ISH]

^^^^^ +10

[SA Heat]

Thank you 13COBRA. What percentage did you settle on?....or are you still experimenting?

[SilverACR]

Sounds awesome. Any cutting involved? I’ll try it as long as it’s plug and play.

[Ronin47]

Sounds awesome. Any cutting involved? I’ll try it as long as it’s plug and play.
Plug and play. Only cutting involves cutting the zip ties after install.

[bulitt]

Worth every penny.

The easiest way to explain how it works...

If you press your throttle to 30%...after installing TKOs part....the throttle sensor thinks it's pressed to 45% (just guesstimate) when you have it tuned to 25%.

I dialed it up to 100%, because come on who wouldn't...and if you press your throttle to 30% to sensor thinks it's at 100%. It's too jerky in that configuration to use on a road course, but would be excellent for rolling runs!

Money well spent!

Nice! Thx for update!

[viperBase1]

OK so this is the one for us: QUICK TRACK INSTALL VIPER ADJUSTABLE MAX THROTTLE RESPONSE KIT (https://tkomotorsports.com/product/2008-2017-quick-track-install-viper-adjustable-max-throttle-response-kit/)

I haven't heard anybody discuss this "Quick Track Kit" yet, only the "Competition Kit".

Right now, I'm not too keen on cutting into the wiring harness and soldering (as pictured over on the GenV forum).
I'm plenty good with a soldering iron, just don't need the full-track-competition install.
Mostly street/auto-x right now.. track once a year.

Just want a little extra edge for that first encounter with a C8 Z51 w/Performance Pkg.

Ordered! :dude3:

[13COBRA]

OK so this is the one for us: QUICK TRACK INSTALL VIPER ADJUSTABLE MAX THROTTLE RESPONSE KIT (https://tkomotorsports.com/product/2008-2017-quick-track-install-viper-adjustable-max-throttle-response-kit/)

I haven't heard anybody discuss this "Quick Track Kit" yet, only the "Competition Kit".

Right now, I'm not too keen on cutting into the wiring harness and soldering (as pictured over on the GenV forum).
I'm plenty good with a soldering iron, just don't need the full-track-competition install.
Mostly street/auto-x right now.. track once a year.

Just want a little extra edge for that first encounter with a C8 Z51 w/Performance Pkg.

Ordered! :dude3:

You don't have to solder anything in the competition kit.

The difference between this kit and the competition kit, is the bracket that mounts the controller (the silver thing center of photo).

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[viperBase1]

You don't have to solder anything in the competition kit.

The difference between this kit and the competition kit, is the bracket that mounts the controller (the silver thing center of photo).

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Cool. Some 3M two-sided tape + zip ties for strain relief should work out just fine.
If not, I'll loop back around and buy the bracket.

Looking forward to it, Baby Doll is ready! :t15197:
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[13COBRA]

Cool. Some 3M two-sided tape + zip ties for strain relief should work out just fine.
If not, I'll loop back around and buy the bracket.

Looking forward to it, Baby Doll is ready! :t15197:
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Good looking car.

The bracket was a simple install. Took about 20 minutes to do the whole thing. If you pulled the seat, it would be super easy access.

[viperBase1]

ooo-ooo It's been delivered. :dancingman:

[viperBase1]

ooo-ooo It's been delivered. :dancingman:

INSTALLED.
Install was very simple but I had an OCD attack and went crazy cleaning every freakin' thing down in the foot well. It was bad.

Oooooo-weeeee double eeeeeYyooouuhheee!!!!:drive:

No engine lights whatsoever.
dial @25% - couldn't really tell much diff. But didn't give this setting much of a test.
dial @50% - WOW. Instant KkaPppowww! What flat spot? She ran a tad warmer, but she's being pushed harder.

Stopped right there. That's all we need. :dude3:
Dammmmnn.:orange:

[SilverACR]

This will be a nice stocking stuffer this year;)