OEM Carbon Aero Spoiler Installation

[VENOM V]

I purchased the factory Carbon Aero Package from Mark Jorgensen of Woodhouse and installed the rear spoiler. I'll install the front splitters later, as that looks to be quite a challenge. Making templates, drilling, riveting, yikes. More on that another day.

First of all, the fit and finish of these carbon pieces is immaculate! No orange peel, flawless carbon, perfect fit, no warpage. The finish is on par with the gorgeous paint that Prefix bathes our snakes in. Mopar sent me the adhesive and installation instructions.

I was fairly nervous about the install initially, because there are no alignment features, nothing that locates the spoiler on the decklid, no fasteners. This also means no drilling. You simply bond it on with urethane adhesive, the same stuff used to bond windshields to cars. Makes sense, since urethane bonds well to perfectly smooth glass, it ought to stick well to our polished paint. I prefer this over double sided tape, which the aftermarket spoilers are mounted with. If you're not lined up correctly with urethane, you can make a small position adjustment. With tape, if you put it on crooked, it's there to stay. I also trust urethane adhesive to hold up to 150+ track speeds year after year. After rehearsing a few times, I was ready to begin. I knew I had to move quickly because the urethane sets right away. Here are the steps:

1. Clean decklid and bottom of spoiler with isopropyl alcohol. Use a nice soft microfiber cloth so you don't damage your paint.

2. Dry-fit the spoiler in place. Once properly positioned, tape it down with two pieces of blue painter's tape. It is VERY important to have a helper, as your helper can hold one end in place while you align the other. Otherwise, you'll end up sliding the spoiler around on your decklid, with the risk of scratching your paint or dropping the spoiler. Ask me how I know, I almost did both before I asked my lady for help! Carbon fiber is brittle, it'll crack or chip if dropped hard enough.

3. Place a piece of tape on the middle of the spoiler, and adjacent to it on the trunk. Draw a line across them. This will later be used to align the spoiler.

4. You need to be able to quickly apply painter's tape to secure the spoiler when the time comes to install the spoiler, so I stuck a bunch of pieces to my decklid, within easy reach.

5. The spoiler comes with a small piece of double-sided tape at the center of the underside of the spoiler. Remove the backer paper. This will secure the middle of the spoiler to the decklid so you can focus on the ends.

6. Apply a continuous 8mm wide bead of urethane to the groove in the bottom of the spoiler. It is highly recommended to have your helper hold it so that it doesn't move or flip over while you're applying. The trick is to apply enough to securely bond the spoiler to the car, but not so much that it will squirt out of the gap and be visible.

[VENOM V]

7. Carefully place the spoiler on the decklid, lining up the pencil marks. I used my finger to line up one end of the spoiler to the decklid, while my helper used her finger to line up the other end. My finger was vertically against both the back of the decklid and back of the spoiler, if that makes any sense.

8. While your helper holds one end, apply painter's tape in a few places at the other end. Then apply the painter's tape at your helper's end. I found that it was best to put most pieces on the vertical surfaces, not on the horizontal surface. See picture to see what I mean.

9. Check for any exposed urethane. Remove it with a microfiber towel and isopropyl alcohol. I was fortunate that my urethane bead size was just right- none needed to be cleaned, a perfect install.

10. I let mine cure for 48 hours before removing the painter's tape. It wasn't clear to me how long one needs to wait, but I wasn't taking any chances.

And there you have it! The entire installation took about 10 minutes, very easy. That's after rehearsing and staring at it for about an hour before I began, LOL. And it's gorgeous. It lines up perfectly, it's straight, centered, and evenly seated across it's width.

[canadian viper]

just like the factory, nice

[VENOM V]

I just love how elegantly the carbon spoiler integrates with the Viper's lines. It looks like it belongs on the Gen V. And the lip is surprisingly tall, this will give it some serious downforce. Combined with the splitters, it increases downforce 7x. For those of us that track, this will be a significant benefit on high speed sweeping corners. Laguna Seca, Thunderhill, Willow Springs, Buttonwillow- these are the tracks I frequent, and having the car more planted and stable will yield quicker, safer laps at all venues. Can't wait for the next tracking event!

[01sapphirebob]

That is one sexy looking wing. Nice!

[V10LEE]

Excellent writeup Todd thank's. The OE spoiler looks great!

[ViperSmith]

Nice! Can you get a nice closeup of the weave?

What was the approximate weight?

[IndyRon]

I really like that color.

[BAD BOYZZ GARAGE]

Great instructions, very clean install and definitely looks correct Todd.!! Looking forward to your splitter installation..

Bad Boyzz
Toddy

[VENOM V]

Nice! Can you get a nice closeup of the weave?

What was the approximate weight?

Thanks guys. It's so light it almost feels weightless, literally. Here are a couple of close-ups of the weave.

I don't mean to bash the new C7 Z06 because I could see owning it one day, but can't help it. When I look at how clean the Viper's aero design is compared to the Vette's, it's night and day. I like the Vette's because it's adjustable, but it's just tacky looking. Bolted on, exposed fasteners, poop-scoop splitter, plastic front fender flares, and the lines don't integrate. This Viper's aero is elegant, yet highly functional at the track. A brilliant execution. The center section of the Viper's spoiler dips down with lines that flow with the rear taillight surround and the double-bubble roof. I could not be happier with the design.

[Jack B]

Very nice!

[Nine Ball]

The caption for this photo was probably along the lines of: "Well, here goes nothing. I can't believe I'm about to put glue on that pretty paint."

http://driveviper.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3584&d=1393805053

Nice how-to write up!

Front end isn't that difficult, the bumper cover comes off pretty easily.

Tony

[Revolution]

Wow looks great, nice attention to detail :)

[VENOM V]

The caption for this photo was probably along the lines of: "Well, here goes nothing. I can't believe I'm about to put glue on that pretty paint."

http://driveviper.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=3584&d=1393805053

Nice how-to write up!

Front end isn't that difficult, the bumper cover comes off pretty easily.

Tony

That sums it up Tony. An anxious moment for sure!

[mjorgensen]

Great write up Todd, never doubted your abilities ;-) and I'm sure your splitters will be just as perfect.

[BlknBlu]

Looks fantastic on Stryker. You will inspire other GEN V owners to do the same.

Bruce

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

Mopar does NOT include any instructions in their spoiler package, so MUCH THANKS to Todd for providing this DIY for the collective Snake Pit G5 Nation.....

[mjorgensen]

Mopar does NOT include any instructions in their spoiler package, so MUCH THANKS to Todd for providing this DIY for the collective Snake Pit G5 Nation.....

Jon,

I have been working with Mopar on this and they are close to having the instructional/template packet and all of the hardware/adhesive needed in the kit to make it more user friendly ;-)

[sharmut]

10. I let mine cure for 48 hours before removing the painter's tape. It wasn't clear to me how long one needs to wait, but I wasn't taking any chances.
And there you have it! The entire installation took about 10 minutes, very easy. That's after rehearsing and staring at it for about an hour before I began, LOL. And it's gorgeous. It lines up perfectly, it's straight, centered, and evenly seated across it's width.

Does the spoiler weight and tape apply enough downward pressure to mate to the trunk lid for a solid bond?

[ViperSmith]

Mopar does NOT include any instructions in their spoiler package, so MUCH THANKS to Todd for providing this DIY for the collective Snake Pit G5 Nation.....

Why would a $3000 list price part need instructions to install? Ugh MOPAR.

[VENOM V]

Great write up Todd, never doubted your abilities ;-) and I'm sure your splitters will be just as perfect.

Mark, thanks again for being the squeaky wheel with MOPAR to persuade them to send me the instructions and adhesive. I'm going to hit up Paul Normandin to see if Normandin's body shop can help me with the splitter install.

[VENOM V]

Looks fantastic on Stryker. You will inspire other GEN V owners to do the same.

Bruce

Thanks Bruce. Yes, she looks hotter with an even more curvaceous bodacious behind :t1567:

[VENOM V]

Mopar does NOT include any instructions in their spoiler package, so MUCH THANKS to Todd for providing this DIY for the collective Snake Pit G5 Nation.....


Why would a $3000 list price part need instructions to install? Ugh MOPAR.

LOL, MOPAR took their time but in the end sent me well written installation instructions. Kind of like ordering a Viper. Once you receive it and see the quality, all is forgiven :very_drunk:

[VENOM V]

Does the spoiler weight and tape apply enough downward pressure to mate to the trunk lid for a solid bond?

My intuition says yes. The bead of urethane is thick, much like caulking. So when you set it down, it 100% fills the gap. The spoiler is nearly warp-free and flexible enough that light pressure from the tape seats it perfectly against the decklid, end to end. SRT designed a groove that the urethane bonds to, so that the urethane has a thick layer between the spoiler and decklid which I think will allow it to hold up over time.

My biggest concern was whether the urethane adhesive would bond strongly to polished paint. Would you believe that I actually thought about scuffing the paint to improve the bond strength? :trike:

But when I read that it's primary use is to attach windshields, I was more comfortable since glass has a similar surface finish and should be plenty strong enough to survive a typical collision. Plus, I trust that SRT did testing prior to release.

[ViperSmith]

Busy day today, installed the tow hook as well.

Did mine tonight with the wife, actually wasn't all that difficult at all. I actually went and bought an electronic caulk gun to put the urethane on, it helped a lot and produced a pretty even bead

Cleaned the trunk off good with ONR then the alcohol.

On the sides I did some additional alignment before putting the spoiler on
http://i.imgur.com/WcyNdcPl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/kDnJXx2l.jpg

Put my tape on the glass for easy placement
http://i.imgur.com/8BN9pUnl.jpg

Installed
http://i.imgur.com/L3jvzSql.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/sJVjEpwl.jpg

[Canadian venom]

Nice job guys :dude3:

[gutterworks129]

Nice write-up. The install has to scare a lot of people with bonding to nice shiny paint. The end result is stunning.

[SSNEAKN]

I just found this write up and love it! I also ordered this same part for my 14 GTS. I think it looks amazing. I am new to the VIPER world BTW. Looking foward to this install.

Question is, I see this post is from April of last year....do you think my spoiler will come with instructions and the adhesive now? Thanks!!

[mjorgensen]

The last few we have got did not include the adhesive.


I just found this write up and love it! I also ordered this same part for my 14 GTS. I think it looks amazing. I am new to the VIPER world BTW. Looking foward to this install.

Question is, I see this post is from April of last year....do you think my spoiler will come with instructions and the adhesive now? Thanks!!

[SSNEAKN]

The last few we have got did not include the adhesive.

Can you tell me what kind of adhesive to buy, so I can be prepared? Thanks

[mjorgensen]

I could if you would have bought it from me... lol just kidding. I'm not at work today, dealing with a family issue. When I can get to my laptop I'll post what you need. It is basically a windshield urethane adhesive though.


Can you tell me what kind of adhesive to buy, so I can be prepared? Thanks

[SSNEAKN]

I could if you would have bought it from me... lol just kidding. I'm not at work today, dealing with a family issue. When I can get to my laptop I'll post what you need. It is basically a windshield urethane adhesive though.

Sorry, I just found this site yesterday :) And I am a new Viper owner, so I didn't look for vendors first. What was your price on the spoiler. I would like to compare what I paid. Thanks!

[ViperSmith]

my biggest suggestion when installing, buy an electric caulk gun http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-18-Volt-ONE-Power-Caulk-and-Adhesive-Gun-Tool-Only-P310/100342145

it helped SO much and laid the perfect bead

[SSNEAKN]

my biggest suggestion when installing, buy an electric caulk gun http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-18-Volt-ONE-Power-Caulk-and-Adhesive-Gun-Tool-Only-P310/100342145

it helped SO much and laid the perfect bead

Thanks, I will pick one of those up!

[SSNEAKN]

my biggest suggestion when installing, buy an electric caulk gun http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-18-Volt-ONE-Power-Caulk-and-Adhesive-Gun-Tool-Only-P310/100342145

it helped SO much and laid the perfect bead

Grabbed one off Amazon just now.

[Victxv10]

Will this work and is one better than the other?

http://www.autozone.com/sealants-glues-adhesives-and-tape/epoxy-compound/3m-window-weld-black-super-fast-urethane/464397_0_0/

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/MMM0/08693.oap?pt=N04004

[mjorgensen]

Adhesive options;

Option 1. Purchase from Lawson Products
- The product is 70-08A under a Private label name "Kent® Windshield Adhesive"
- Part #: KT12594
- Available in Cartridges
- website: http://www.lawsonproducts.com/Kent/Windshield-Adhesive/KT12594.lp
- Recommend Calling for Pricing (website pricing is always priced high.
- MSDS Attached


Option 2. Purchase Bostik ISR70-08A from one of our Industrial Distributors
- Krayden Inc,, Ellsworth Adhesives,
- Available in Cartridges and Sausage packs

We sell the spoiler for $2450 since you asked.

[SSNEAKN]

Adhesive options;

Option 1. Purchase from Lawson Products
- The product is 70-08A under a Private label name "Kent® Windshield Adhesive"
- Part #: KT12594
- Available in Cartridges
- website: http://www.lawsonproducts.com/Kent/Windshield-Adhesive/KT12594.lp
- Recommend Calling for Pricing (website pricing is always priced high.
- MSDS Attached


Option 2. Purchase Bostik ISR70-08A from one of our Industrial Distributors
- Krayden Inc,, Ellsworth Adhesives,
- Available in Cartridges and Sausage packs

We sell the spoiler for $2450 since you asked.

Thank you very much for that info!

[SSNEAKN]

Adhesive options;

Option 1. Purchase from Lawson Products
- The product is 70-08A under a Private label name "Kent® Windshield Adhesive"
- Part #: KT12594
- Available in Cartridges
- website: http://www.lawsonproducts.com/Kent/Windshield-Adhesive/KT12594.lp
- Recommend Calling for Pricing (website pricing is always priced high.
- MSDS Attached


Option 2. Purchase Bostik ISR70-08A from one of our Industrial Distributors
- Krayden Inc,, Ellsworth Adhesives,
- Available in Cartridges and Sausage packs

We sell the spoiler for $2450 since you asked.

Is 1 catridge enough?

[ViperSmith]

way more than enough

[SSNEAKN]

way more than enough

Thanks!! All on the way :)

Any pics of the spoiler on a red GTS? I can't wait!!

[Canadian venom]

9076

on a red GTS but installed at the factory ;)

[SSNEAKN]

9076

on a red GTS but installed at the factory ;)

I LOVE IT!! Can you post a pic of it straight on from the rear?

[KB Viper]

looks great, i love the look our cars with the areo package.

[VENOM V]

looks great, i love the look our cars with the areo package.

And the carbon aero package makes a BIG difference at the road course, it really stabilizes the rear end on high speed sweepers and off-camber corners like turn 1 at Laguna Seca.

[SSNEAKN]

I hope to see this part by the weekend!!!

[SSNEAKN]

Can some of you post pics of your areo package?

[Dman]

FWIW, here's mine, installed it a couple weeks ago, before the ice age hit us. Although not a red car, sorry.

9077

9078

[SSNEAKN]

FWIW, here's mine, installed it a couple weeks ago, before the ice age hit us. Although not a red car, sorry.

9077

9078

That looks great!! How did your instal go? Mine should be here this Friday. Looks like a fun weekend project :)

[Dman]

That looks great!! How did your instal go? Mine should be here this Friday. Looks like a fun weekend project :)

Cake, and I manned up and did it alone, lol. A helper would be a big ... help. But it's totally simple. Just make small moves to settle it exactly right, really the only mistake is to position it wrong, duh, so a slow and steady hand is what it's about. I practiced positioning mine a dozen times first, then bam, perfect.

[SSNEAKN]

So let it sit about 48 hours then? This is what I read above?

[Canadian venom]

I LOVE IT!! Can you post a pic of it straight on from the rear?

Sorry it's the only one I have from the rear... and now the car is hidden in the garage so not enough room the take a good pic of it...Damn Canadian winter ...

[1evilviper]

Nice write up, and I LOVE the look of the spoiler....Im about 3 seconds away from pulling the trigger on one..I have a question to all the drag, aero, down force guy....How much "slower" do you think it makes it when doing roll races or the 60-180 pulls at some of the mile events??

[senior racer]

3M makes a product called Window Weld that comes in a 15' roll that is extremely easy to use and does away with all the caulking gun nonsense. Simply unroll the length that you need and apply to the spoiler,when ready peel off the paper backing and set the spoiler in place. 5/16(8mm) size is P/N 08611. This product is well known to the auto glass industry.

[SSNEAKN]

3M makes a product called Window Weld that comes in a 15' roll that is extremely easy to use and does away with all the caulking gun nonsense. Simply unroll the length that you need and apply to the spoiler,when ready peel off the paper backing and set the spoiler in place. 5/16(8mm) size is P/N 08611. This product is well known to the auto glass industry.

Interesting. I wonder how long it would hold up though, over time, compared to the urethane adhesive?

I am excited for this part to come in!

[ViperSmith]

If I am putting a $2,500 piece of carbon fiber on my car, I'd follow factory instructions, personally.

[senior racer]

08611 is a urethane product. It will last longer than you will own the car. If you must have a caulking gun applied product Window Weld is available under P/N 08609. I would have more faith in a 3M product than some of the others referenced above.

[GBS]

Nice write up! Car looks great! I love Stryker red.

[VENOM V]

Nice write up! Car look great! I love Stryker red.

Much appreciated :drive:


Nice write up, and I LOVE the look of the spoiler....Im about 3 seconds away from pulling the trigger on one..I have a question to all the drag, aero, down force guy....How much "slower" do you think it makes it when doing roll races or the 60-180 pulls at some of the mile events??

Thanks man. With the splitters it cuts top speed to about 187 MPH if memory serves, so I'm sure at those speeds it is having some impact. However I prefer the stability it gives at speed. It has 7x the downforce of the standard body. Not noticeable in any way to me except for on the road course, but for high speed mile events it would likely affect it.

[SADVIPER]

I'm intrested in doing the rear spoiler alone. hope it won't affect performance!
problem is if I ship it overseas I'll have some concerns on this fragile part!

[Dman]

I'm intrested in doing the rear spoiler alone. hope it won't affect performance!
problem is if I ship it overseas I'll have some concerns on this fragile part!

There's some talk from reputable sources that with only the spoiler it could unweight the front at speed a bit, but I reference Ralph Gilles car, his only has the spoiler and I'm working on the assumption that SRT is setting up his car intelligently and not to try to kill him .... I think. And Ralph does all kinds of events and long hauls in "storm". I am considering doing canards though myself, but not out of fear of my car being unbalanced due to the spoiler.

[2doorrocket]

There's some talk from reputable sources that with only the spoiler it could unweight the front at speed a bit, but I reference Ralph Gilles car, his only has the spoiler and I'm working on the assumption that SRT is setting up his car intelligently and not to try to kill him .... I think. And Ralph does all kinds of events and long hauls in "storm". I am considering doing canards though myself, but not out of fear of my car being unbalanced due to the spoiler.

Ralph removed the spoiler a long time ago. He said he couldn't see behind him and it pissed him off lol... That thing has been spoiler-less for a while

[Dman]

Ralph removed the spoiler a long time ago. He said he couldn't see behind him and it pissed him off lol... That thing has been spoiler-less for a while


Haha, he needs the backup camera. It is amazing how much visibility it takes away.

[SADVIPER]

Wow does it really reduce visibility?? I've read about that unbalance at high speeds and it seems unrealistic thay Ralph removed it due to visibility. Why then they designed it like this?

[Dman]

Wow does it really reduce visibility?? I've read about that unbalance at high speeds and it seems unrealistic thay Ralph removed it due to visibility. Why then they designed it like this?


IMO, yes it does. I can see it being a pain. But I had a comparison of driving it without and then with, it never occurred to me that would impact it, but it really does, especially to the left and right where the spoiler is highest. I'd hate to negotiate parking lots without the rearview camera, but that's my opinion. I can totally believe he'd remove it for that reason, with the miles he clocks on it.

[Nine Ball]

The spoiler eats up about 1/3 of the lower window viewing area. No biggie, you get used to it. Rearview camera works great.

http://i466.photobucket.com/albums/rr29/ynotdv8/2013%20Viper/spoiler19.jpg (http://s466.photobucket.com/user/ynotdv8/media/2013%20Viper/spoiler19.jpg.html)

[ViperSmith]

who cares what is behind you :)

[Dman]

who cares what is behind you :)

I find it a benefit, you don't have to see the ugly front end of the vettes you're passing.

[Viper.954]

Great post! Beautiful addition to any Gen V. I wondered why the center of the spoiler was cut out until I saw the pic from the rear view mirror.

[Zulu]

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Will install front splitters and brake ducts this weekend

[VENOM V]

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Will install front splitters and brake ducts this weekend

Damn! That is one sexy beast.

[Victxv10]

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Will install front splitters and brake ducts this weekend

Do you have the template or layout for the splitters? I hear they are pretty hard to install.

[Zulu]

No I do not, all my parts are OEM and not one template or instruction in any of the boxes, I will be putting the on tomorrow and will take pics of my steps and hope it might help others who take on this install.
So far all the other parts have gone on with out any problems, this form has been a great help.

[Canadian venom]

Maybe I'm biased but carbon fiber and red are awesome together...Zulu, are those Carbon fiber wheels or its a wrap/hydro dip?

[SSNEAKN]

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Will install front splitters and brake ducts this weekend

Can you list the PN#'s for the CF window sills, CF tail panel and the CF splitters and brake ducts? Please reply to this thread and let us know how those 2 pieces went with the install.

I can't understand why the instructions aren't included.

[SSNEAKN]

I find it a benefit, you don't have to see the ugly front end of the vettes you're passing.

My 15 Z06 has a similar splitter, and the center piece is a clear tinted for visibility. With those 2 cars, it will come down to driver skills.

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[Canadian venom]

Red always has been faster than yellow lol

[ViperSmith]

My 15 Z06 has a similar splitter, and the center piece is a clear tinted for visibility. With those 2 cars, it will come down to driver skills.

9166

you in southern va?

[SSNEAKN]

you in southern va?

Yep.

[Zulu]

Yes, the wheels are a 3 piece carbon fiber from HRE, I have another set of mono blocks still in the box, gloss black I will let go very cheep, have to get rid of some parts need the room.
The part numbers for the CF
Front splitter, passenger side 6821 0708 AB-001, drivers side 6821 0709 AB-001
Rear tail light surround, E01784000 CWS
Rear Spoiler, 6818 7848 AA-001
Rear brake intake, 6819 1405 AB-001, and 6819 1404 AB-001
Front brake intake 6819 1403 AB-001, and 6819 1402 AB-001
The rear brake install was very easy, there are just 2 nuts that hold the part in place, to access them remove the interior panel behind the duct and the carpet tht runs to the rear of the car to access the flex duct, the part comes with new duct work.

[Victxv10]

Can I use 3M 8609 windshield adhesive for the spoiler? It's urethane, 15 minute work time and 1200psi tensile strength. The Bostik is 450psi.

[outnumbered]

Do you have the template or layout for the splitters? I hear they are pretty hard to install.

The splitters from Extreme Supercars (Wayne) come with a template. And, his spoiler is held on with 2 strips of 3M tape....no goo.

[bayviper]

Looks great on your car!

[SADVIPER]

looks like that CF beauty is inevitible to me lol!

[Victxv10]

Another place for the adhesive, $18 per tube.

http://www.racecraft.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=669_688&products_id=2325

[SSNEAKN]

Installed! Stay tuned for pics!!! Wasn't bad at all. Now the wait for 48 hours staring at the blue tape :)

Special thanks to all who posted with such good install help!

[Victxv10]

I installed mine Sunday and tape comes off today. I'm more nervous about the first drive than I was gluing the spoiler on. I don’t want it to fly off the car..lol

[Dman]

I installed mine Sunday and tape comes off today. I'm more nervous about the first drive than I was gluing the spoiler on. I don’t want it to fly off the car..lol


I installed mine & it's been to 135ish on track for 4 sessions and it's still there .. it is human nature to worry a little, lol.

[sfviper]

Nice write up! Does anyone know if the Gen 4 ACR front splitter fit on the Gen V?

[Viper_VA]

Does any one have any idea how to remove it ?

And if it will make any marks/scratchs or not ?


Thanks,

[Viktimize]

Is there some instructions on doing the front splitters somewhere? I need to get my kit installed here right away.

Also, if the Xtreme Supercars rear spoiler is just getting installed with 3m tape, can we just go this route with the OEM spoiler too? I'd rather not have to deal with cleaning urethane off the car if they screw it up the first time.

[7TH_SIGN]

Need to get this. Not sure if I trust that tape though.

[ViperSmith]

Using urethane on the rear wing isn't that hard. Measure three times install once. Biggest help for me was buying an electric caulk gun. made applying the caulk a breeze.

Two person job to seat it just right.

[Arizona Vipers]

Yes, the wheels are a 3 piece carbon fiber from HRE,



Wait what?? What size are they and what do they weigh? What did they cost?

[darbgnik]

Wait what?? What size are they and what do they weigh? What did they cost?

Two people to line up both ends at same time, not to lift it. :)

Wayne at Xtreme has tested the tape to 180mph or something silly? Makes sense since its pushing down, not lifting up. Mine is on with tape.

[Viktimize]

Two people to line up both ends at same time, not to lift it. :)

Wayne at Xtreme has tested the tape to 180mph or something silly? Makes sense since its pushing down, not lifting up. Mine is on with tape.

Cool thanks. Maybe I'll just try mine with tape first and see how it is.

[VENOM V]

Guys,

I hate to disagree with my Viper brothers, but I wouldn't do tape. One test at 180mph doesn't tell you longevity. How is it going to hold up after a year of heat cycling? Two years? Five years? Ten years? If that thing flies off at the track, it'll be a weapon thrown at 100+mph.

The adhesive is windshield adhesive and it has been thoroughly tested by SRT. And as Vipersmith said, it's easy to do if you practice.

[VENOM V]

Is there some instructions on doing the front splitters somewhere? I need to get my kit installed here right away.

Also, if the Xtreme Supercars rear spoiler is just getting installed with 3m tape, can we just go this route with the OEM spoiler too? I'd rather not have to deal with cleaning urethane off the car if they screw it up the first time.

I have the splitter installation instructions. I can't attach it here, so PM me your email address and I will send it to you.

[ViperSmith]

Guys,

I hate to disagree with my Viper brothers, but I wouldn't do tape. One test at 180mph doesn't tell you longevity. How is it going to hold up after a year of heat cycling? Two years? Five years? Ten years? If that thing flies off at the track, it'll be a weapon thrown at 100+mph.

The adhesive is windshield adhesive and it has been thoroughly tested by SRT. And as Vipersmith said, it's easy to do if you practice.

It is a daunting task - but once you are done it is "wow that was easy"

[SOberman001]

Guys
I am ready to install my OEM lip spoiler and bought the 3M adhesive. It says I may need primer? Is that required if the surface is cleaned with ' 3M adhesive prep spray'

[VENOM V]

Guys
I am ready to install my OEM lip spoiler and bought the 3M adhesive. It says I may need primer? Is that required if the surface is cleaned with ' 3M adhesive prep spray'

I know that Prefix doesn't use primer and neither did I. As long as the 3M adhesive is urethane adhesive used for windshields, I would think you don't need primer. The prep spray is a good idea, probably all you need

[SOberman001]

Thanks! I am trying to find a willing victim to help me with this little project but on mothers day, unlikely.

[ViperSmith]

alcohol rub to clean the surface before hand was all i used

[The_Ruski_Driver]

I thought these go on with double sided tape? Is there any advantage to one method vs the other?

[VENOM V]

I thought these go on with double sided tape? Is there any advantage to one method vs the other?

The factory uses a specific windshield adhesive. I don't trust tape to last for 20 years with occasional 140+ mph track days. I'd stick with what has been stress tested by the factory.

[The_Ruski_Driver]

The factory uses a specific windshield adhesive. I don't trust tape to last for 20 years with occasional 140+ mph track days. I'd stick with what has been stress tested by the factory.

Wow you guys keep something for 20 years? Awesome. Longest I've kept a car was 4 years back when I was 17 haha

[VENOM V]

Wow you guys keep something for 20 years? Awesome. Longest I've kept a car was 4 years back when I was 17 haha

Haha, I usually don't either, but I'd hate to trust a piece of tape to withstand even a few years of high loads and temperature cycles. Do it right, go with the adhesive.

[SRTViperSD]

This thread helped me install my spoiler perfectly! Thank you!!

[VENOM V]

This thread helped me install my spoiler perfectly! Thank you!!

Glad it worked out for you. Initially intimidating, but not that bad!:dancingman:

[dmann]

wow this thread is old. So, Todd.. have you had any issues with it since installing it?
Being that you have an ACR now do you notice the downforce now?

[theviper]

Instead of the urethane/epoxy, you could use 3m automotive tape. It's what many other OEMs use to affix spoilers and other bits and pieces on to cars without causing damage to the paint.

[mjorgensen]

Instead of the urethane/epoxy, you could use 3m automotive tape. It's what many other OEMs use to affix spoilers and other bits and pieces on to cars without causing damage to the paint.

There is a small ridge around the center of the thin area you apply the window weld to. If you used tape there it would be an extremely thin amount that I would not trust, plus you would likely see it rather than the hidden adhesive the factory uses.

[q8blueviper]

Special thanks to VENOM V for the instructions
I used the 3m 08609 and its sticks very good ! I bought the OEM spoiler
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[VENOM V]

wow this thread is old. So, Todd.. have you had any issues with it since installing it?
Being that you have an ACR now do you notice the downforce now?

No issues, holding on just fine. The GTS has been retired to street duty, so hard to notice the downforce. Looks bad ass too, lol

[VENOM V]

Looking good q8 Viper. By the way, the woman in the installation pictures is from Kuwait. You guys have a great car culture over there

[TRH62]

So glad I found this write-up on the installation of the spoiler. Definitely has eased my concerns with getting mine added soon.
Thanks

[ViperJames]

I’m reviving this one again this really should be put in the installation forum it’s amazing. The 3M tape is for the birds the windshield adhesive is the way to go. Thank you !

[Topplayer]

I installed mine last week,

I used my dremel to grind down the tall edges, and used 3m doubled sided body tape. Ill seemed to work out great!
Will track it in a few months Ill post results!

[cubeman]

I'd love to see fitment versus windshield adhesive and 3m tape and if theres a gap. We can argue all day about which is more stable/long term but I'd just like to see if any gap or fitment is different between the two. I'm over a year on with my spoiler now via windshield adhesive. Only thing that does suck is I got a nasty chip and it's hard to reclear it now as removing adhesive/spoiler could pull paint.

[darbgnik]

I'd love to see fitment versus windshield adhesive and 3m tape and if theres a gap. We can argue all day about which is more stable/long term but I'd just like to see if any gap or fitment is different between the two. I'm over a year on with my spoiler now via windshield adhesive. Only thing that does suck is I got a nasty chip and it's hard to reclear it now as removing adhesive/spoiler could pull paint.
The Extreme version is designed for tape and has a small hollow underneath the tape rests in, so no gap. I have no experience with the OEM one.

[Topplayer]

I'd love to see fitment versus windshield adhesive and 3m tape and if theres a gap. We can argue all day about which is more stable/long term but I'd just like to see if any gap or fitment is different between the two. I'm over a year on with my spoiler now via windshield adhesive. Only thing that does suck is I got a nasty chip and it's hard to reclear it now as removing adhesive/spoiler could pull paint.

gap is SO small with tape, il take a pic next time I pull the car out. Really happy with the results