Challenger hell cat

[Ohiotj]

I think sometime around march 22 they are going to be revealing the new supercharged srt engine. There are a lot of rumors about total hp rating. I have heard anywhere from the mid 500's to almost 700. Also heard there will be a third key like the boss 302 that offers up more power. Hopefully it doesn't void the warranty like ford did. This will be interesting to see if they give the hell cat more power then the viper.

[The_Greg]

Source? I heard that they don't want to release anything about the Challenger until less than 90 days from production, so as to not stifle current sales.

I have heard that March should bring at least one new product of some type but wasn't under the impression it would be the SRT-8SC

[J TNT]

I heard close to 700 is the target. I also heard Thier will be other Supercharged applications, more good things to come ;)

[swexlin]

I heard close to 700 is the target. I also heard Thier will be other Supercharged applications, more good things to come ;)

Will be available in the Challenger and Charger, but apparently not the 300, at least according to an Allpar article a while back. my 2007 SRT8 Charger with the 5-speed Autostick is a pretty fast car (it's no Viper, LOL), so I can't imagine what it will be like the the Hellcat and the 8 speed. Will be faster in a straight line then my Gen 3 Viper.

[VRYALT3R3D]

Too bad its going to be heavy as hell. SRT should be following Ford and GM and look to reduce weight and increase handling instead of throwing horsepower at it.

[The_Greg]

Too bad its going to be heavy as hell. SRT should be following Ford and GM and look to reduce weight and increase handling instead of throwing horsepower at it.

There is something in the pipeline to address this.... So they say.

[Ohiotj]

I like the space you get with the challenger. The new platform is going to be smaller but it should still be larger then camaro and mustang. With space comes weight.
Here is a good forum with a lot of info.
http://www.challengertalk.com/forums/f5/2015-challenger-information-thread-98814/

[Lawrenzo]

Too bad its going to be heavy as hell. SRT should be following Ford and GM and look to reduce weight and increase handling instead of throwing horsepower at it.

Their were rumors of a big weight drop and an overall smaller size for the 2015 Mustang, but it's actually a bit larger and will likely weigh about the same. They are also dropping the wonderfully powerful supercharged 5.8 in favor of a twin turbo 5.0. Seems like Chrysler is late to the game with technology on the Hellcat. Don't get me wrong- it will be a ton o' fun but will likely get slapped with a gas guzzler tax and poor mileage compared to all the new twin turbo V-8's out there.

[Sybil TF]

I like the space you get with the challenger. The new platform is going to be smaller but it should still be larger then camaro and mustang. With space comes weight.
Here is a good forum with a lot of info.
http://www.challengertalk.com/forums/f5/2015-challenger-information-thread-98814/
It's nice not to be cramped. I love mine.

[Late Apex]

It really needs the extra HP as its so heavy. Had mine for a year and traded it. It was ok but like a Vette, Stang, or Maro, they are everywhere now.

[BAD BOYZZ GARAGE]

Here's a photo at Chrysler's Centerline Facility, Detroit MI., just after their lead tech and I installed and road tested Mopar's prototype BBG Challenger HC Competition Clutch. Looks stock but its not!! We had fun on this project and I learned the back roads around the plant in no time!!

If you look at the bottom front fender you'll see our Bad Boyzz Garage, Viper Cup race decals..:t1567:

BAD BOYZZ GARAGE
Toddy Gomez

(Challenger HC Test Mule - Mopar BBG Prototype Competition Clutch Installed)
http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w587/BADBOYZZGARAGE1/image_zps211b916f.jpg (http://s1331.photobucket.com/user/BADBOYZZGARAGE1/media/image_zps211b916f.jpg.html)

[J TNT]

Niiiiice ! Thanks for sharing ! :)

[Lawrenzo]

Here's a photo at Chrysler's Centerline Facility, Detroit MI., just after their lead tech and I installed and road tested Mopar's prototype BBG Challenger HC Competition Clutch. Looks stock but its not!! We had fun on this project and I learned the back roads around the plant in no time!!

If you look at the bottom front fender you'll see our Bad Boyzz Garage, Viper Cup race decals..:t1567:

BAD BOYZZ GARAGE
Toddy Gomez

(Challenger HC Test Mule - Mopar BBG Prototype Competition Clutch Installed)
http://i1331.photobucket.com/albums/w587/BADBOYZZGARAGE1/image_zps211b916f.jpg (http://s1331.photobucket.com/user/BADBOYZZGARAGE1/media/image_zps211b916f.jpg.html)

So, you've got some real info on the Hellcat- can you give us a crumb at least?

[Ohiotj]

Love the white on those cars.

[AutoformSteve]

We do a lot of Challenger builds here at Autoform as well...Shaker Hoods,and spoilers, as well as a Cuda package that we sell thru select dealers. We did a 392 supercharged AFR Cuda last spring...we have two more Supercharged cars with our Shaker that we are currently doing.
http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad265/autoform/DSCN6922.jpg (http://s942.photobucket.com/user/autoform/media/DSCN6922.jpg.html)http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad265/autoform/DSCN6915.jpg (http://s942.photobucket.com/user/autoform/media/DSCN6915.jpg.html)http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad265/autoform/DSCN6912.jpg (http://s942.photobucket.com/user/autoform/media/DSCN6912.jpg.html)

[slitherv10]

Excellent work Steve !!...Funny how every time you come up with a concept (shaker hood), it does not take long when Chrysler follows suit. The front grill and rear blacked out panel is a very nice touch and adds that aggressive touch the car needed in my opinion.

Keep up the good work.

[Sybil TF]

When is someone going to mini-tub one and put some fatties on the back?

[BAD BOYZZ GARAGE]

So, you've got some real info on the Hellcat- can you give us a crumb at least?

Lawrenzo,

All kind say is 600 HP and electronic adjustable suspension is all I noticed.. Remember test mules are not the finished product, they're used to test many components..

Bad Boyzz
Toddy

[Ohiotj]

Couldn't believe my eyes yesterday. On my way to my monthly boat club meeting I drove past a convoy of test mules of the new challenger. There were escorted by a few trucks and I think a few chrysler cars. There had to be about about 5 to 7 challengers with their front end and rear ends covered up. I know these things are out driving around but I live in a small town about as far away from Michigan as you can get in ohio. Not to sound sexist but there were a few female drivers and they looked excited to see me stopping traffic to look at them as we passed. Made me think they were not chrysler employees. It was really cool to see them and if I wasn't busy I would have chased them down. Anyway we are getting close to the rumored revealing of this new car so it should be interesting.

[The_Greg]

Couldn't believe my eyes yesterday. On my way to my monthly boat club meeting I drove past a convoy of test mules of the new challenger. There were escorted by a few trucks and I think a few chrysler cars. There had to be about about 5 to 7 challengers with their front end and rear ends covered up. I know these things are out driving around but I live in a small town about as far away from Michigan as you can get in ohio. Not to sound sexist but there were a few female drivers and they looked excited to see me stopping traffic to look at them as we passed. Made me think they were not chrysler employees. It was really cool to see them and if I wasn't busy I would have chased them down. Anyway we are getting close to the rumored revealing of this new car so it should be interesting.

I don't think they are full time employees of Chrysler, the one test driver I know is part time. He gets a gig (usually in AZ) for one or two weeks at a time and is never too sure when the next gig will be. If you see ducks on the dash, thats the guy I know inside.

[Ohiotj]

That's a great part time job. Wouldn't mind going to as for a few weeks to drive a new car.

[The_Greg]

He loves it, and is a Mopar guy anywas. Probably the hardes part would be that you can't exactly go running and telling everyone about all the fun you have had.

[dadstoy]

can't wait to see it. I traded my 2011 SRT challenger for my Viper.

It was pretty fast. Here are my time slips running 100% stock on factory goodyears at 24 psi.

[Sybil TF]

can't wait to see it. I traded my 2011 SRT challenger for my Viper.

It was pretty fast. Here are my time slips running 100% stock on factory goodyears at 24 psi.

What Viper did you get? By the way, what was your fastest run? I can't make out your slips.

[dadstoy]

hopefully this picture is better.

Best time was 12.28@114. not bad for a 4300 pound pig.

[dadstoy]

traded for my 2006 Coupe

[Sybil TF]

hopefully this picture is better.

Best time was 12.28@114. not bad for a 4300 pound pig. I have one, love it!

[Ohiotj]

We should be getting some info here in less then 24 hours. Getting excited.

[Ohiotj]

There are a lot of pissed off people who wanted to see the new car and got nothing but a logo. Ralph said maybe in may.

[HPmopars]

I don't care very much for the logo, reminds me of a Mercury Cougar or something. :lame:

[rw99]

No truly new model or refresh is gonna happen at SpringFest; those events will happen at an industry show. Detroit, New York, etc.

[The_Greg]

I don't care very much for the logo, reminds me of a Mercury Cougar or something. :lame:

What logo? Link to picture?

[Ohiotj]

No truly new model or refresh is gonna happen at SpringFest; those events will happen at an industry show. Detroit, New York, etc.

Didnt they reveal the gen v viper at the voi?

[HPmopars]

Here's a logo, scroll down...

http://www.challengertalk.com/forums/f5/2015-challenger-information-thread-98814/index262.html

[Newport Viper]

This the car? From this Saturday at C&C. SRT brought these and 2 Vipers

http://www.kouchicentral.com/images/14-6%20c&c/DSC_9518.JPG

[BlknBlu]

Pretty cool logo.

Bruce

[ACRucrazy]

http://www.wkjeeps.com/misc/RS/Hellcat_badge_001.jpg


Even though this has pissed alot of people off including myself let's look at the facts shall we?

1. The new challenger model won't be drastically changed so we don't have to worry about Dodge effing it up and make it 'euro' like the new mustang (really don't like that 2015 model by the way.) It'll have the same classic body with the modernized 71 front and rear. After all, when it came out in 08, the car's exterior was already perfected; the only way to make a refresh of it was to change front and rears to a 71 which is exactly what they're doing. No more or no less. Props to Dodge for that!

2. The Hellcat is a for sure reality and the numbers won't disappoint for those wanting to get one. For those of you saying it'll only make 600 hp are crazy. It'll be north of 650 and run mid 11s. Mark my words

3. The LED lightning is going to be sick and a well deserved update along with the facias and the new interior.

4. RS is the best source we have for knowledge so we should all be grateful for what info we do have. Like someone else said, we wouldn't know anything if it wasn't for RS.

5. Yes we have to wait a bit longer for it BUT we'll look back at this and laugh. The wait will be well worth it I believe come NY time or if it gets shown before.

Lotta pissed off people in that thread it seems. On a side note, if it really is 650+ HP I have no doubt the Viper will get some sort of bump.

[HPmopars]

This the car? From this Saturday at C&C. SRT brought these and 2 Vipers


No, not a 2015 or the Hellcat.

[rw99]

Didnt they reveal the gen v viper at the voi?

I see what you're saying. A reveal to the faithful vs officially, to the rest of the world.

[VRYALT3R3D]

I wonder when the CHallenger will be on its own platform. Something that can actually compete with the Mustang and Camaro. It seems Chrysler is 4 years behind the competition.

[mjorgensen]

http://www.autonews.com/article/20140324/OEM03/303249967/chryslers-hot-hellcat-puts-pressure-on-the-viper

[ACRucrazy]

I wonder if were going to be waiting now until a "Gen VI" drops.

[The_Greg]

I wonder if were going to be waiting now until a "Gen VI" drops.

Gen V.1/2 (Gen V.1 for software programmers, V.5 for those a fan of decimals over fractions, and V.V for Romans) :)

[Sybil TF]

I wonder when the CHallenger will be on its own platform. Something that can actually compete with the Mustang and Camaro. It seems Chrysler is 4 years behind the competition.
And it needs to go on a diet.

[Lawrenzo]

I wonder if were going to be waiting now until a "Gen VI" drops.

Well, that's basically what they did with the Gen IV's. New drivetrain in the existing body.

[Joel]

http://www.allpar.com/news/index.php/2014/03/the-face-of-hellcat

[Ohiotj]

I see the challenger as a quarter mile car. It's very big and hefty. Being more powerful then the viper is ok to me. Srt should have at least come out and said hey the new hellcat and 2015 challenger won't be there. It would avoid this bad publicity.

[ICPREY]

Someone has posted a pic of the engine bay on Facebook, not sure SRT would approve. looks legit...

[AbsolutHank]

Someone has posted a pic of the engine bay on Facebook, not sure SRT would approve. looks legit...

Link? Pic?

[ICPREY]

It's posted under the "Mopar Muscle Cars" group as well as this link http://www.srtlife.com/post/84382489913/exclusive-more-convincing-shots-of-the-all-new

[ICPREY]

More pics..http://www.themoparman.org/2014/04/leaked-hellcat.html

[Lawrenzo]

Still has puny tractionless tires on the rear. Someone should do a mini-tub and throw the Viper Wheels/tires on there!

[bluesrt]

Still has puny tractionless tires on the rear. Someone should do a mini-tub and throw the Viper Wheels/tires on there!

yep I agree, that car needs viper wheels on the back.....period

[FLATOUT]

Can't wait for these guys to start "Viper" hunting lol.

[VoodooRob]

I agree with the skinny tires on the car. Seems they have been very narrow from the re-introduction start, the car looks better with some aftermarket wider wheels but still not correct.

[bluesrt]

I love the challenger and had a 2010 srt8- the rear wheels are really sad to look at from the back side, if the bad boy doesn't come with some wide meats, im not buying one, but I bet they come with something as wide or wider than the big bad camaro

[ACRucrazy]

http://wot.motortrend.com/1404_dodge_challenger_hellcat_spotted_with_viper_s tyle_hood_scoop.html

Look at the brakes.

[Lawrenzo]

http://wot.motortrend.com/1404_dodge_challenger_hellcat_spotted_with_viper_s tyle_hood_scoop.html

Look at the brakes.

Slotted Viper T/A brakes?

[FLATOUT]

Slotted Viper T/A brakes?

Those look like the calipers off of the SRT8 Jeep Grand Cherokee, and ACRX like rotors. Man I wished they would have put those on the Viper.

[Sybil TF]

I love the challenger and had a 2010 srt8- the rear wheels are really sad to look at from the back side, if the bad boy doesn't come with some wide meats, im not buying one, but I bet they come with something as wide or wider than the big bad camaro
I have 20x11 with a real 315 on the back. Real easy to do. Surprised there is not more of this and less bitching about fitting a fat one on the back.....

[488civ10]

4942

It needs fatter fenders along with steamrollers. Classic Design Concepts did it well.


yep I agree, that car needs viper wheels on the back.....period

[VoodooRob]

^^^^ This ^^^^^

[Sybil TF]

Those add on fenders look ridiculous. Tub it if you want 345's otherwise 315's.

[bluesrt]

I agree with the skinny tires on the car. Seems they have been very narrow from the re-introduction start, the car looks better with some aftermarket wider wheels but still not correct.

ya have tried a few different ways, and they all look like the duke boys came to town, honkie tonk- yee haa look. they need a viper wheel tucked in there, if I had money to blow stupid, I would have mini tubbed it.

[Sybil TF]

Duke boys LOL. Maybe, when you put cheap torque thrust wheels on these cars....

[VoodooRob]

Duke boys LOL. Maybe, when you put cheap torque thrust wheels on these cars....

Would your tires rub in the rear if car was lowered, is there clearance issue? The 315s may fit but they do seem like they are on the ragged edge of sticking out a'la 80's style 4954

[Sybil TF]

Would your tires rub in the rear if car was lowered, is there clearance issue? The 315s may fit but they do seem like they are on the ragged edge of sticking out a'la 80's style 4954

Oh brother....Here, look again. You are distracted or you need glasses. No sticky outy....... Rubber is even with the fender but the bottom swoops in so it's an optical illusion.

I'm sure it would rub if I lowered it but I have no intentions of doing that. Not a bad wheel gap like on a stock gen 2 viper lol

[VoodooRob]

Oh brother....Here, look again. You are distracted or you need glasses. No sticky outy....... Rubber is even with the fender but the bottom swoops in so it's an optical illusion.

I'm sure it would rub if I lowered it but I have no intentions of doing that. Not a bad wheel gap like on a stock gen 2 viper lol
No wheel gap like Gen 2 is a good thing! What I was referring to was the fenders look like they will rub the rear tires if suspension compressed straight down with the 315s, am I incorrect? Obviously not as much tire hanging out as the photo I posted, the rear quarter design of the stock Challenger doesn't "hold" wider tires well in its stock silhouette.

[bluesrt]

Would your tires rub in the rear if car was lowered, is there clearance issue? The 315s may fit but they do seem like they are on the ragged edge of sticking out a'la 80's style 4954

they will rub lowerd,evan the factory hurst car look like a duke boy got ahold of it- their is no way to get a wide wheel and tire on the back without it looking like your in the 80's= makes me want to get out my bell bottoms

[Sybil TF]

No wheel gap like Gen 2 is a good thing! What I was referring to was the fenders look like they will rub the rear tires if suspension compressed straight down with the 315s, am I incorrect?
Factory, yes. Mine no. Really boys, all the modding you guys do to your cars and you can't figure this out? Unless you think a 20x11 315 continental is a skinny tire. I think not.
There is no way this looks like an 80's get your bell bottoms out stance...

Can I get a witness!!!!:rolleyes: I'm sure you will tell me the chrome will add to the width of the wheel as well LOL

[IndyRon]

Love the 315's! Not so much on the red line on sidewall or cadillac tread pattern. Get you some Nitto NT05's on there! Good job on getting the offset as close to optimal as possible considering the small fenderwell you had to work with! Beautiful wheels.

BTW, you are running too much pressure in the rear tires. Look at your effective contact patch, you are only getting roughly a 275 tire worth of rubber on the ground. Drop your pressure and recheck patch. Bet you traction improves.

[Sybil TF]

Love the 315's! Not so much on the red line on sidewall or cadillac tread pattern. Get you some Nitto NT05's on there! Good job on getting the offset as close to optimal as possible considering the small fenderwell you had to work with! Beautiful wheels.

BTW, you are running too much pressure in the rear tires. Look at your effective contact patch, you are only getting roughly a 275 tire worth of rubber on the ground. Drop your pressure and recheck patch. Bet you traction improves.
Thanks, I went with Continentals for the longer wear and I hate Nittos , sent them back because a Nitto 315 is no bigger than a 295. The run way smaller in advertised size compared to other brands. I think 32 lbs of air is what I am running. I'll check when the wheels get back next week from chroming.

[488civ10]

49804981498249834984

More, more.


^^^^ This ^^^^^

[IndyRon]

Thanks, I went with Continentals for the longer wear and I hate Nittos , sent them back because a Nitto 315 is no bigger than a 295. The run way smaller in advertised size compared to other brands. I think 32 lbs of air is what I am running. I'll check when the wheels get back next week from chroming.

To each his/her own. You have to pick what works for you. My criteria are 1)Appropriate size available 2)Performance 3)Appearance.
These look so aggressive on those cars over the Conti's. The Conti's are probably better in rain and snow. If you drive your Challenger aggressively, you'd probably love these. Here are 275/315's on your car. They don't look particularly small to me although you are right, the Nitto's do run on the small size, always have.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c280/rpinieck/imagejpg1_zps346c288e.jpg (http://s29.photobucket.com/user/rpinieck/media/imagejpg1_zps346c288e.jpg.html)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c280/rpinieck/imagejpg2_zps7d1f013b.jpg (http://s29.photobucket.com/user/rpinieck/media/imagejpg2_zps7d1f013b.jpg.html)

[Sybil TF]

Had both. It's extremely noticeable when the tires are side by side and you know size matters........:D

[mjorgensen]

Still has puny tractionless tires on the rear. Someone should do a mini-tub and throw the Viper Wheels/tires on there!

We just completed a 600hp build on an RT and you are right, it is wild that you can light the tires at a 60mph roll, :dude3: definitely doing rims and tires soon.
4986
4987

[bluesrt]

do a minitub on that beast!!!!! it needs it. the challenger has a big ass. it needs big shoes!

[Dusty1]

That car has always been lacking in the rubber department, I am sure it drives fine, just never passed the eye test.

Richard

[Sybil TF]

That car has always been lacking in the rubber department, I am sure it drives fine, just never passed the eye test.

Richard Oh brother....opinions vary

[ViperSmith]

The Hellcat is here

http://www.drivesrt.com/

http://www.drivesrt.com/assets/images/2015/challenger/6.2/gallery/exterior/15-la-ex-05.jpg

IMHO lots of minor styling cues from the Viper

[Ohiotj]

They say over 600 hp. I bet they will wait to disclose full details till they know what ford and Chevy have.

[Lawrenzo]

Ford is done with the high HP for a couple years since they only have a GT350 coming in late 2015. And Chevy is pushing a 505HP Z28 as their bad boy right now, so there's really no reason to wait.

[488civ10]

Agreed, no reason to wait.

And burnouts must have been prioritized for 275/40ZR20 to be the winning size...

Even with that being said, it still looks great.


Ford is done with the high HP for a couple years since they only have a GT350 coming in late 2015. And Chevy is pushing a 505HP Z28 as their bad boy right now, so there's really no reason to wait.

[Policy Limits]

How many will be produced? What's the price point?

[VRYALT3R3D]

How many will be produced? What's the price point?

Ford makes about 5k GT500s a year, so Dodge will likely produce less then that. Price point is in the mid 50s I believe.

[hawk02]

More like $75,000, a regular 6.4 SRT8 is mid 50's.

[ICPREY]

Yea I would look in the high $60k to mid $70s, that's where the Brand new SRT8 Jeeps are.

[VRYALT3R3D]

More like $75,000, a regular 6.4 SRT8 is mid 50's.

It wont be priced higher then the GT500's base price of $54,995

[Policy Limits]

So it's designed to compete with C7 price point more or less? I think it looks & sounds incredible. Lots of power and comes with a Viper transmission. Wow.

[ICPREY]

It wont be priced higher then the GT500's base price of $54,995

Current SRTs run at $50K MSRP. They added new a interior, dash interface, and blower for less than $5k. Doubtful. Either way time will tell.

[chuck6551]

I have an 09 srt and really like the interior and power of the new one. I bet the 8 spd auto will make it fast. I would miss being able to rev the motor sitting next to a stang or other wishful thinker. Lol

[Policy Limits]

When will these bad boys be hitting dealers? Late summer?

[VRYALT3R3D]

Current SRTs run at $50K MSRP. They added new a interior, dash interface, and blower for less than $5k. Doubtful. Either way time will tell.

Look at all the improvement Ford did for a $5390. 662 HP via TVS blower, launch control, track apps, ect ect

2012 GT500 MSRP was: $49,605
2013 GT500 MSRP was: $54,995

- - - Updated - - -


When will these bad boys be hitting dealers? Late summer?

Production begins: 10/27/14 as per DOnlen

[hawk02]

Priced out a loaded 2014 srt8 at $54,000 so this one will be more than the Ford.

[Policy Limits]

Sounds crazy!! http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YU2d3YpJVYk

[Lawrenzo]

Look at all the improvement Ford did for a $5390. 662 HP via TVS blower, launch control, track apps, ect ect

2012 GT500 MSRP was: $49,605
2013 GT500 MSRP was: $54,995


For what amounted to a relatively small increase in price Ford actually added a bunch of performance upgrades which included: twin fuel pumps, larger fuel injectors, a grippier and larger-diameter clutch, a larger fan, a three-row intercooler (the previous car used a double-row unit), a beefed-up Tremec 6060 six-speed with an internal oil pump, and a single-piece carbon-fiber driveshaft. Larger Brembo front disc brakes with six-piston calipers, reinforced axle tubes, and aero tweaks to help the car reach 200+mph safely. Ford says the changes have resulted in a 14-percent reduction in drag and a 66-percent increase in front-end downforce. Also new for 2013 is a larger front anti-roll bar and retuned springs. An rpm-adjustable electronic launch-control function is standard, as is four-mode electronic stability control. And all with no gas guzzler tax.

[VRYALT3R3D]

For what amounted to a relatively small increase in price Ford actually added a bunch of performance upgrades which included: twin fuel pumps, larger fuel injectors, a grippier and larger-diameter clutch, a larger fan, a three-row intercooler (the previous car used a double-row unit), a beefed-up Tremec 6060 six-speed with an internal oil pump, and a single-piece carbon-fiber driveshaft. Larger Brembo front disc brakes with six-piston calipers, reinforced axle tubes, and aero tweaks to help the car reach 200+mph safely. Ford says the changes have resulted in a 14-percent reduction in drag and a 66-percent increase in front-end downforce. Also new for 2013 is a larger front anti-roll bar and retuned springs. An rpm-adjustable electronic launch-control function is standard, as is four-mode electronic stability control. And all with no gas guzzler tax.

Yup. THe GT500 has an amazing performance for the price. And the best part? Easy to tune; huge aftermarket

[Policy Limits]

707 hp!!!!!

Wow!!!!!!!!

[Leslie]

yeh I read that too, awsome for a street legal car!

http://www.drivesrt.com/2015/challenger-srt-hellcat/

[Troublemaker]

If that can keep the price point around the GT500, they will have a winner.

[Late Apex]

It will be a supercharged 707 HP with 650 ft. lbs of torque and Dodge has a new video on it, all over that other Viper site. My salesman at Mac Haik Dodge says they will be ordering soon but no price yet. He says their testing has done 10.91 seconds. Will see on that number but look out you proud Stang and Maro owners !!! Your time has come.

[FLATOUT]

And Viper owners.

[Ohiotj]

There are at least three other threads on this subject. If moderators want to delete this one or merge it that would be cool with me.