WTB Gen V

[RyanSchoen]

Hi everyone, hope a wanted ad is OK to post.
I have been searching for a gen V and nothing on the typical for sale sites is really calling out to me so I figured I would try a want ad.
I am interested in a TA, highly optioned GTS's, or may entertain the right SRT model.

Car must have SRT hood (6 hole)
Aero kit is a plus
Carbon interior is a plus
upgraded interior options are a plus (laguna, GT ect...)
I am open to mods (headers, ECU, heads, cam ect....)
Black, Silver, White, and GTS-R blue are all good colors to me but I am open to most colors just no yellow.
I have no problem traveling for the right car.

Thanks
Ryan

[99RT10]

Here is a green one:


https://driveviper.com/classifieds/gen-v/p2497-2014-stryker-green-gts.html

Blue one:

https://driveviper.com/classifieds/gen-v/p2448-2016-viper-acr-e.html

[Bruce H.]

You will likely get greater response if you note what part of the country you're in. I know of a white TA available in the Toronto area.

[Hrspwr1320]

With 35 GEN 5's on ebay alone and sure some are ACR's and and not what you said you are looking for. That still leaves Autotrader and all the rest of the car sites on the interweb. Are you sure you are really looking hard enough.

The problem is most people are in fantasy land in regards to the "real" value of their car.

[SRT_BluByU]

thats code for lowballer... hahhahaha

[RyanSchoen]

Here is a green one:


https://driveviper.com/classifieds/gen-v/p2497-2014-stryker-green-gts.html

Blue one:

https://driveviper.com/classifieds/gen-v/p2448-2016-viper-acr-e.html

Thanks but stryker green is not for me and I dont think I want an ACR as I dont plan on tracking this car.


You will likely get greater response if you note what part of the country you're in. I know of a white TA available in the Toronto area.

I appoligize I thought I did. I am in California, I am not opposed to traveling, but I am weary or importing from another country.




With 35 GEN 5's on ebay alone and sure some are ACR's and and not what you said you are looking for. That still leaves Autotrader and all the rest of the car sites on the interweb. Are you sure you are really looking hard enough.


I check ebay and autotrader everyday. I dont think there is a single gen v on ebay that i want, most everything on autotrader is a gts that doesnt have the options that i am looking for.

[Hrspwr1320]

thats code for lowballer... hahhahaha

Not at all! If a car has been on the market for months without a sale, the price is too high. There are so many Vipers that have been for sale over and over again. Doesn't take a genius to figure out the problem.

[Bruce H.]

What are the key features you're looking for as so far you're open to every model and many colors except ACR and yellow, yet the different models are basically equipped or optioned so differently from the factory.

A highly optioned GTS for instance will always have leather seats yet a TA never will. A TA and GTS will always have the dual mode electronic suspension but that was never available on an SRT. Carbon interior only available as an option on a GTS, never on a TA, or on an SRT I don't think. And what about a GT?

The models and options on Vipers were so extensive and varied that it was hard to keep up. The more you learn about the differences and then determine what's essential for you the easier you'll be able to know what to look for. There are a lot of cars that are "available" at any given time that aren't listed in ads. If you can narrow your search and articulate what you're looking for you are sure to find the perfect one. Your budget could also be a very important factor.

We're here to help you figure out what you're looking for and someone here may very well know a car that would be suitable.

[PkB2014]

Sorry Bruce, but with the GTC program anything was possible. I understand folks with “real” TA don’t think of the GTC TA when people are “looking for a TA”. But the fact is the GTC TA has all the core options that make a TA. Plus options like carbon interior or leather seats were available. If he wants all those things I’m sure there is a car out there, but most likely in someone’s garage and not for sale. But with all the possible combinations it might be hard to find exactly the right car.

OP, Good luck with your search.

[Bruce H.]

Sorry Bruce, but with the GTC program anything was possible. I understand folks with “real” TA don’t think of the GTC TA when people are “looking for a TA”. But the fact is the GTC TA has all the core options that make a TA. Plus options like carbon interior or leather seats were available.

Absolutely correct, and the reason I asked about a GT, with the GTC with TA option group being one of many build possibilities. And the Anodized GTS was available with the TA option group before the GTC program started.

[RyanSchoen]

What are the key features you're looking for as so far you're open to every model and many colors except ACR and yellow, yet the different models are basically equipped or optioned so differently from the factory.

A highly optioned GTS for instance will always have leather seats yet a TA never will. A TA and GTS will always have the dual mode electronic suspension but that was never available on an SRT. Carbon interior only available as an option on a GTS, never on a TA, or on an SRT I don't think. And what about a GT?

The models and options on Vipers were so extensive and varied that it was hard to keep up. The more you learn about the differences and then determine what's essential for you the easier you'll be able to know what to look for. There are a lot of cars that are "available" at any given time that aren't listed in ads. If you can narrow your search and articulate what you're looking for you are sure to find the perfect one. Your budget could also be a very important factor.

We're here to help you figure out what you're looking for and someone here may very well know a car that would be suitable.



The TA has been #1 on my list, I was about an hour late to put a deposit on the last black one that came up for sale....... still pissed about that.
As far as what I am looking for......... not the run of the mill car. Something that has something special about it. The TA's are numbered plus I love the way they look with the SRT hood and the carbon fiber goodies.
A normal run of the mill GTS doesnt do it for me, mostly because of the GTS hood. A highly optioned one however can be considered "special" IMO. There is a beautiful GTS-R blue w/ white striped fully optioned GTS with SRT hood carbon fiber everything ect..... its IMO the perfect car but the guy wants 103,000 and its sat at that price for 18+months, obviously over priced. I offered $95K and he declined.

[Bruce H.]

Well Ryan, I agree with you about a numbered black TA being something special I suppose :) And that GTS sounds great as well. There's really nothing as exciting or comparable to either in that price range.

I haven't followed GTS sale prices at all but if it's fairly priced at a justifiable premium based on what it is then financing requirements will make it difficult for a private seller to find a buyer that can swing it. Banks loan based on black book values and will see the average GTS sells for a lot less and then the buyer can't get a large enough loan. TA's can be hard to finance as well because the bank only sees them as an SRT with a much lower value than what the SRT TA actually sells for.

You seem to know your Vipers, have checked out a lot for sale, and I'm guessing the one that's special enough to you will also carry a significant premium. And TA values have been particularly strong. My only advice is to make sure you get the one you really want. Long after you've forgotten the extra you paid you'll still have the car of your dreams! That's a lot better than the regret of settling for anything less and eventually paying more to rectify that situation.

Good luck with your decision!

[ViperJon]

The problem is most people are in fantasy land in regards to the "real" value of their car.

If "most people" have their cars at a certain price point, I'd say that's not "fantasy land"...that's the current going prices.

[darbgnik]

If "most people" have their cars at a certain price point, I'd say that's not "fantasy land"...that's the current going prices.

I agree. There are usually a few "run of the mill" cars that get passed around for what seems like a good price(what buyers would call the going rate), but they're generally nothing special, or pretty common. 2014 Adrenaline Red GTS's with the GTS hood comes to mind.... Seems they were plentiful and sell quite reasonably. But that doesn't make the more desirable ones over priced.

Look at the Stryker green GTS with the SRT hood for sale in these classifieds. He's asking quite a bit more than what medium mileage red GTS's are going for, but I for one think it's worth the premium. Stryker paint was very expensive with a low take rate. The SRT hood, while not an expensive option, was a low take rate as well, and very sought after.

When you compare the used prices of GTS versus SRT with their original MSRP, the GTS seems like a real bargain used, the SRT not so much.

[ViperJon]

There is a beautiful GTS-R blue w/ white striped fully optioned GTS with SRT hood carbon fiber everything ect..... its IMO the perfect car but the guy wants 103,000 and its sat at that price for 18+months, obviously over priced. I offered $95K and he declined.

I know the car and I know the owner. It's as perfect as it appears to be and with barely break in miles. You'll not find another like it and certainly not one that is that "like new". Just my opinion....but there are very very few out there like his. And I'm not a friend trying to shill. But I've owned a lot of Vipers and know an ultra clean perfect one when I see it. You're 8K apart surely you can close that gap.

[commandomatt]

its IMO the perfect car but the guy wants 103,000 and its sat at that price for 18+months, obviously over priced. I offered $95K and he declined.

To walk away from what you consider to be the perfect car, over 8K.......strange call IMO (when you are talking about 100K car)

You cant call it over priced. Just because it hasn't sold doesn't mean anything other than it hasn't found the right buyer yet. Vipers are so unique and this usually means that it takes some time to find someone that feels just right about a certain combination of model, color and equipment. You may never find another one like this. I found the perfect one a few times and at that point it was more important that I got the car than saving a few bucks

[slitherv10]

To walk away from what you consider to be the perfect car, over 8K.......strange call IMO (when you are talking about 100K car)

You cant call it over priced. Just because it hasn't sold doesn't mean anything other than it hasn't found the right buyer yet. Vipers are so unique and this usually means that it takes some time to find someone that feels just right about a certain combination of model, color and equipment. You may never find another one like this. I found the perfect one a few times and at that point it was more important that I got the car than saving a few bucks

Great point but, if his budget was 90 and he stretched to 95 then 103...

[SirHiss]

I think if you posted the budget range your trying to stay in that might help as well.

I can’t speak for everyone but I know for the right price I could be persuaded to sell my orange TA. But if your budget range tops out at 95k then likely not going to grab an orange TA without a little negative history anymore.

[ViperJon]

My understanding is the seller came down another 2K to 101K now.

[ViperTony]

My understanding is the seller came down another 2K to 101K now.

The GTS-R? Seriously, PM me his information, that's a stupid good deal.

[ViperJon]

The GTS-R? Seriously, PM me his information, that's a stupid good deal.

It’s not a GTS-R of course you know that? It’s a heavily optioned GTS..... blue with white stripes.

[txA&M08]

I know the car and I know the owner. It's as perfect as it appears to be and with barely break in miles. You'll not find another like it and certainly not one that is that "like new". Just my opinion....but there are very very few out there like his. And I'm not a friend trying to shill. But I've owned a lot of Vipers and know an ultra clean perfect one when I see it. You're 8K apart surely you can close that gap.

I know that car as well and it is literally perfect. Checks every single box for me, but like the OP, I wasn't able to stretch that far, so I offered him 90. Ended up getting a GTS for 82 that checked most of the boxes. He will find a buyer eventually.

[SilverACR]

To walk away from what you consider to be the perfect car, over 8K.......strange call IMO (when you are talking about 100K car)

You cant call it over priced. Just because it hasn't sold doesn't mean anything other than it hasn't found the right buyer yet. Vipers are so unique and this usually means that it takes some time to find someone that feels just right about a certain combination of model, color and equipment. You may never find another one like this. I found the perfect one a few times and at that point it was more important that I got the car than saving a few bucks

I hear this. I struggled to find an ACR with the red driver stripe when I was looking. I passed on a few really cool G4 ACRs including a wicked rare 200 mile toxic orange 10 and a no stories Voodoo 1... I had to have the red stripe and ended up spending what I had to to get it. In the end you either sacrifice what you want for a small percentage of the value or plan to just suck it up and get the one you want... I really am glad I got the car I wanted as there is no feeling like I settled for something else.

[Matt Dillon]

The TA has been #1 on my list, I was about an hour late to put a deposit on the last black one that came up for sale....... still pissed about that.
As far as what I am looking for......... not the run of the mill car. Something that has something special about it. The TA's are numbered plus I love the way they look with the SRT hood and the carbon fiber goodies.
A normal run of the mill GTS doesnt do it for me, mostly because of the GTS hood. A highly optioned one however can be considered "special" IMO. There is a beautiful GTS-R blue w/ white striped fully optioned GTS with SRT hood carbon fiber everything ect..... its IMO the perfect car but the guy wants 103,000 and its sat at that price for 18+months, obviously over priced. I offered $95K and he declined.

Wow, Ryan from what everybody's said this car is about as close to Perfect as you're going to find, Hopefully you can work something out with him especially IF it's been on the market for 18+ months I would think he'd be willing to have a lil' wiggle room. I know exactly how you feel about the Hood though, I Did NOT want a GTS Hood & also Had to have the Aero pkg., leather seats, etc.... GL I Hope you can find what you're looking for!

[RyanSchoen]

So is the consensus that the GTS-R blue car isn’t as over priced as I thought? This isn’t a budget issue but more of a me not wanting to pay thousands more than I should.

[darbgnik]

So is the consensus that the GTS-R blue car isn’t as over priced as I thought? This isn’t a budget issue but more of a me not wanting to pay thousands more than I should.

It's my opinion, the car in question is neither overpriced, nor a killer deal. It's priced pretty much right there.

One thing to think about, if you bought a car that didn't check all the boxes, would you be tempted to add those options after purchase? A lot of people do. Buy a good deal, or what they can afford at the time, only to spend money making it what they want after the fact. I can imagine, if you bought a lower spec car, for a better deal, and added just the 3 carbon options after the fact, you'd be way over the price of this car. Interior and exterior carbon pieces are prohibitive to buy separately. TA aero isn't exactly cheap either.

If this was the car I wanted, I'd buy it.

When I bought my car, it only needed to be comp blue, and have an SRT hood, but seeing as it was a new color option for that year, I couldn't buy a used one. Had to be new. Imagine being the guy who had to pay full price for this car? Or even close to new?

[AZTVR]

So is the consensus that the GTS-R blue car isn’t as over priced as I thought? The GTS-R is a "special edition" white car with blue stripes.

[RyanSchoen]

The GTS-R is a "special edition" white car with blue stripes.

The color is GTS-R blue. I’m aware what a gts-r model is. Thanks.

[Nine Ball]

Not at all! If a car has been on the market for months without a sale, the price is too high. There are so many Vipers that have been for sale over and over again. Doesn't take a genius to figure out the problem.

For most Viper owners, the car is just a luxury item that they can sit on as long as they wish. They aren't typically in some urgent need to sell the vehicle. This isn't the same thing as the commuter car market. The values of these cars also do not really depreciate, so they can sit a long time and it isn't a problem.

Why would someone accept your low-ball offer, when they know the right buyer will come along in six months that will pay full asking price? Even if they had to wait a year, the right buyer will come along. They lose nothing.

Even the Viper focused dealerships stock up on these cars, and sit on them for several months. They know that eventually every single one of them will sell. This is a powerful position to be in, as a seller.

It is simply your choice to sit on the sidelines, wishing Viper owners would follow your genius marketing theories, without a Viper. :)

[dewilmoth]

I’ll make the counter-argument; that guy has been sitting on that car FOREVER, it’s obviously not priced correctly. Waiting a few months for the right buyer to come along is one thing, 18 months is something entirely different. I think he is very foolish to turn down a $95k offer, that is actually more than I thought he’d get for it. That being said, it’s obviously his perogoatove, and he ultimately determines the sale price. And it does appear the prices are rising and may eventually meet his ask, he obviously has no problem being patient.

[ViperJon]

The owner of this car has had countless offers over the past year and a half as you would expect, from decent to ridiculous. He has come down some in price but is pretty much as low as he's going I believe. As Nine Ball said, he really doesn't care if it sells now or in yet another six months, obviously he doesn't need to sell it. Nice position to be in. IMO the overriding factor besides how beautiful it is is that with such low miles you know it's going to be in damn near showroom condition. I am willing to pay extra for that and have many times. I just like to put my own chips and nicks in it.

I've bought four new ACR's over the last few years and always paid WAYYYY under MSRP for them, there was no way I would ever pay full sticker that's for suckers. But when I was able to get a GTS-R that rule went out the window. Sometimes you just have to step up if that's what you want. Good luck!

[Bruce H.]

And for every seller holding out for the right person willing to pay top dollar there's probably several buyers holding out for the perfect car at bottom dollar ;)

[Slithr]

And for every seller holding out for the right person willing to pay top dollar there's probably several buyers holding out for the perfect car at bottom dollar ;)

Ain't them private free markets a bitch!

[SilverACR]

Sum this up... wants and needs

[sharmut]

@OP, perhaps you've already seen this Orange T/A on eBay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-Viper-TA-Package/163320315018?hash=item2606a63c8a:g:U7EAAOSwjhdbx29 E

[Bruce H.]

Ryan, I don't know if you plan to drive the car as intended, lol, but where the ad comments on the TA Package being focused on lap times, a real benefit to actual track users is its ability to run faster times lap after lap with the heavier brakes being more resistant to fading, a suspension and alignment that helps the tires stand up longer, and the 5 mode stability control that includes a rain mode. It rained or had rained on five out of 6 days on track this year and I only missed a couple of sessions with rain mode saving the day. The nylon seats breath and offer good support and a little aero is always a good thing. Brilliant car for guys that track and don't want to mod. Brake pads and fluid put you out front with the quickest cars (well-driven ACR-E and some uber exotics excepted).

[Matt Dillon]

It's my opinion, the car in question is neither overpriced, nor a killer deal. It's priced pretty much right there.

One thing to think about, if you bought a car that didn't check all the boxes, would you be tempted to add those options after purchase? A lot of people do. Buy a good deal, or what they can afford at the time, only to spend money making it what they want after the fact. I can imagine, if you bought a lower spec car, for a better deal, and added just the 3 carbon options after the fact, you'd be way over the price of this car. Interior and exterior carbon pieces are prohibitive to buy separately. TA aero isn't exactly cheap either.

If this was the car I wanted, I'd buy it.

When I bought my car, it only needed to be comp blue, and have an SRT hood, but seeing as it was a new color option for that year, I couldn't buy a used one. Had to be new. Imagine being the guy who had to pay full price for this car? Or even close to new?

^^^^THIS is SO True! So many times it's So much Cheaper to get the car you want with at least Most of the options you want than to buy one & Then ADD All the options you wanted! This is on ANY Vehicle! jmo

[Matt Dillon]

@OP, perhaps you've already seen this Orange T/A on eBay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-Viper-TA-Package/163320315018?hash=item2606a63c8a:g:U7EAAOSwjhdbx29 E

WOW, though I've never been into Orange I think if you throw $88k out there you may could walk away with it! To me that would be a Great Deal IF you like Orange

[sharmut]

WOW, though I've never been into Orange I think if you throw $88k out there you may could walk away with it! To me that would be a Great Deal IF you like Orange

My preference has always been comp blue and wasn't a fan of the orange until I saw the car in person in 2014. The body lines and color combo just spoke to me.

[Vipes]

My preference has always been comp blue and wasn't a fan of the orange until I saw the car in person in 2014. The body lines and color combo just spoke to me.

Those are the 2 colors I’ve been waiting 4-5 years now to see in person. They both look amazing in certain lighting. I hope somebody on here picks up that OTA, looks clean.

[Bruce H.]

WOW, though I've never been into Orange I think if you throw $88k out there you may could walk away with it! To me that would be a Great Deal IF you like Orange

And if this is a no-stories TA in great shape it's worth a lot more than that...especially if it's covered by the 10 year or other extended warranty.

[Purple Haze]

IMO Vipers will only go up in value...Get them now in a few years you'll wish you had. Good luck!

[bluesrt]

don't know if I have ever seen a oil filter with that lable on it, if so 7k miles on original breakin oil aint fun

[apeas2]

don't know if I have ever seen a oil filter with that lable on it, if so 7k miles on original breakin oil aint fun

My Viper did not have that label on it, but I think it would be pretty easy to track the service records for someone who wants to by this car.

[bluesrt]

yes I have never seen that before

[SirHiss]

Agree with Bruce, if that orange TA doesn’t have accident or bad engine history or anything that’s a steal even at full price. I’ve seen 4 different orange TA sell in the past 3 months for between 95-105.

[Hawk]

I also was looking for a competition blue with stripes ,orange was my 3ed choice and I thought I would end up striping it. I chose the TA because of package. I had seen the blue and black in person , I did not see the orange in anything but pictures. When the car rolled off of the delivery truck I almost fell over I loved the color so much and I never thought about stripping it after I got it.

[ViperJon]

Three TA owners giving their unbiased opinions on how underpriced that TA for sale is. Check. :)

[Bruce H.]

Three TA owners giving their unbiased opinions on how underpriced that TA for sale is. Check. :)

Yeah, I get that but here's the thing...there has been several TA's sold in the Toronto area over the last 2 years and they've sold for over the original MSRP of $120,480. Take the exchange rate into consideration and that's over $95,000 US. I believe a poster here bought the white '14 TA from Viper Exchange over the last few month for over $100,000 US. A different white '14 is available up here for $135,000 currently. A TA 2.0 sold for high $130's, or close to $105,000 US.

No surprise as it's the sweet spot for a track and touring G5...and at about a 50% discount off the price of a comparable Porsche :)

[RyanSchoen]

Thanks everyone for the info / opinions / links ect..... Hoping to bring a TA home in the next week or so

[RyanSchoen]

Deal didn’t work out on the car I was looking at. Anyone have a black TA for sale ?