How bad is the tire noise from Toyo R888R tires street and highway

[IHOP]

I've heard that they are loud or make noise at highway speed I think it was. How bad around 70-80mph? Any other issues bedsides not great for rain?

[SRT_BluByU]

i looked into these.. i found a few youtube vids of them on cars at highway speeds and they seemed to sound a bit like striaght cut gears.. in cars as loud as our vipers id think itd just be like another instrument in the symphony.. :)

[IHOP]

i looked into these.. i found a few youtube vids of them on cars at highway speeds and they seemed to sound a bit like striaght cut gears.. in cars as loud as our vipers id think itd just be like another instrument in the symphony.. :)

That's what I'm trying to figure out, our cars are loud as it is. Mine being louder exhaust wise because of high flow cats I'm trying to figure out if it would really bother me. I have Corsa's now and I'm not very impressed plus they are 30% more expensive than Toyo's.

[Jack B]

That's what I'm trying to figure out, our cars are loud as it is. Mine being louder exhaust wise because of high flow cats I'm trying to figure out if it would really bother me. I have Corsa's now and I'm not very impressed plus they are 30% more expensive than Toyo's.

A couple of different issues:

1. You will like the Toyo's over the Corsa's. The performance edge going to the Toyo. The car just feels better with the Toyo's.

2. My car is also loud, the tire noise is sort of a high frequency whine, I do not find it that annoying, plus, it is hard to hear over the exhaust. It is sort of strange, you will have no noise at all over 50 % of the time , then, you hit a certain road texture and you get a noise that is similar to a rear end whine.

[ViperTim]

I don't notice the R888's.
The car is so loud anyways.

[capevettes]

I have the R888r's on mine and love them. Sticky and actually smoothed the ride down. There is a little tire noise but not really noticeable on the highway. I don't have a stock exhaust system, so it's just not that bad.

[Bruce H.]

I de-catted and put a very free flowing exhaust on a previous turbo track car that made a good improvement in the powerband. It was a lot louder than stock but around town and on my local home track it was a non-issue. But when I drove it 7 hours to my next most frequented track the constant drone of it became unbearable and I put the previous system back on. I doubt I'd have even heard studded tire noise when the car was that loud. So I suspect the decision for many could come down to how noisy the car is already, as in the case of the happy users have noted above, and for others how much highway touring they do and their threshold for discomfort from noise. I'm aware of the effects on one's hearing over time and am quite noise adverse in general so I wouldn't a noisy tire, or one with compromised wet handling, for long distance use, regardless of any dry performance benefits.

[Mopar'er no car]

I havent had them personally. Hearing them on the road; its kinda like the increase of friction you hear as you cross a textured overpass.

[13COBRA]

I didn't mind them on my car. My exhaust is straight headers back though...no cats or mufflers.

[sadil]

If you are worrying about noise I would also worry about street driving in the rain. Old R888s were everytthing but useful in the rain.

[txA&M08]

A couple of different issues:

1. You will like the Toyo's over the Corsa's. The performance edge going to the Toyo. The car just feels better with the Toyo's.

2. My car is also loud, the tire noise is sort of a high frequency whine, I do not find it that annoying, plus, it is hard to hear over the exhaust. It is sort of strange, you will have no noise at all over 50 % of the time , then, you hit a certain road texture and you get a noise that is similar to a rear end whine.

My thoughts exactly on both points. I have a bone stock Gen 5 so I hear it quite a bit on certain surfaces over 85mph.

I will add one thing...I've been through 2 pairs of rears now. The first pair were unbelievably loud to where I questioned getting another set. The current pair is much quieter. I have read/heard from others with experience that it is indeed hit or miss with these.

[Vipes]

I never even heard them when I had them on my gen 3 but it was a very loud car. I was in my dd the other day and heard them on a Lotus, recognized them by the tread pattern and they were very loud, sounded similar to a lifted truck on boggers. Unless you like to drive your car in the rain the benefits outweighs the negatives including the noise since our cars our loud anyways. I plan on ordering a set soon since my corsa's aren't hooking up anymore. BTW, I had no issues hooking up 600 rwhp in first gear on the gen 3.

[nwa_viper]

I just completed a 2K mile rally with mine. They are loud and remind me of what mud tires sound like at highway speed. The car is loud enough that it covers most of it up unless you have the windows down. It will make it hard to distinguish tire noise from rear end whine though.

[DublinOH]

I believe these are R888's on the GTS.
http://youtu.be/iMyZrKOODSY

[IHOP]

Thank you guys for all the comments and the video was great. I was also thinking of the mudder tire reference when considering tire noise. Rain is not much of an issue really. The car is louder than stock certainly not straight header louder but I don't mind the noise or even back with the stock drone. I agree as stated before the positives are really seeming to out weigh the negatives.

[dewilmoth]

I’ve never understood the noise comments for the R888R, my GTC ACR is as quiet if not quieter than the original Kumho. My car only has them on the front, so maybe that’s why? I intend on buying R888R rears once the originals are done. It also seems hit or miss based on people’s reviews, so maybe it’s an intermittent manufacturing issue. Regardless, I will definitely be buying them again for my car, I like them very much. And as for the rain comment, I’ve been caught in the rain in my ACR, and never had an issue.

[No hemi]

I have them on mine, the positives def outweigh the negatives, for me it's like a jet plane taking off when im doing over 85, so I kinda like it, windows up and radio on you can barely hear them over all the other noises coming from the car.

[ACRucrazy]

I have them. They hook. They are loud. It sounds like a howeling rear end IMO. They seem louder after a launch. They also seem to tramline a bit more than the Michelin and Kumhos i had previously. I was honestly impressed with the Kumho ACR tires for the street.

[Bill Pemberton]

Keep in mind the written warning on the TireRack Site that the tire is for Racetrack and Autocross only! Have had two of my customers wreck their cars on this tire ---- like slapping on a pair of ice skates even in light rain. They are noisy , enough that we had some drivers , in the past , ask us to switch them out after they bought them on others recommendation.

[SRT_BluByU]

Choices certainly seem limited these days for Tire.... sigh

[Fatboy 18]

Respectfully it all depends on the road surface, if on Concrete you hear them, if on Tarmac not so bad. It also depends on what exhaust system you are running and also weather you use your radio when driving?

Nine times out of 10, I always drive with the windows down just so I can hear the Awesome sound from the exhaust :D

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

Consider who is complaining on those forums: BMW, Porsche, Vette, and Audi etc drivers. Sheesh. NO WAY did you see a Viper owners whining.....

If you can hear tire noise in your Viper you need a different exhaust!

[SRT BILL]

Consider who is complaining on those forums: BMW, Porsche, Vette, and Audi etc drivers. Sheesh. NO WAY did you see a Viper owners whining.....

If you can hear tire noise in your Viper you need a different exhaust!

Agreed.

[Fatboy 18]

Consider who is complaining on those forums: BMW, Porsche, Vette, and Audi etc drivers. Sheesh. NO WAY did you see a Viper owners whining.....

If you can hear tire noise in your Viper you need a different exhaust!

:t1236::t1236:

[IHOP]

Consider who is complaining on those forums: BMW, Porsche, Vette, and Audi etc drivers. Sheesh. NO WAY did you see a Viper owners whining.....

If you can hear tire noise in your Viper you need a different exhaust!

Priceless!

[ACRucrazy]

I would have said the same thing prior to buying a set. Now that I have a set I won’t buy another for the street. There are better options IMO

[dewilmoth]

I’ve never understood the noise comments for the R888R, my GTC ACR is as quiet if not quieter than the original Kumho. My car only has them on the front, so maybe that’s why? I intend on buying R888R rears once the originals are done. It also seems hit or miss based on people’s reviews, so maybe it’s an intermittent manufacturing issue. Regardless, I will definitely be buying them again for my car, I like them very much. And as for the rain comment, I’ve been caught in the rain in my ACR, and never had an issue.

Wanted to update some info on the R888R for anyone that comes across this thread while searching. As noted above, I have had them on the front for the last 4Kish miles. No noticeable increase in tire noise or decrease in performance compared to the original Kumhos. I am guessing the front will last 75% longer than the originals.

A few weeks ago I replaced the rear Kumhos with the R888R, and I drove it for the first time last weekend. At 80MPH the tire noise is definitely noticeable now. It is basically a humming noise similar to large tires on an off-road truck. It is not yet bothersome in my case, but I have only driven the car ~50 miles. I will need more time to decide whether it bothers me enough to go back to the Kumho/Toyo mix.

[8400cc]

They are fine, slight whine on certain surfaces over 120 km/h. If stereo on you can’t here, more of a back ground noise than the drone we are all familiar with. I run 315’s up front and couldn’t be happier compared to the p-zeros, also just did a half mile event and the r888r’s hooked real well.

[capevettes]

I might as well update. After 1 year and about 3,500 miles, the rears are already down to the wear bars. They got noisier as the tread wore down. Street only, but I do drive aggressively. Sticky, great looking tires but if your car is driven, like mine, expect a year and done.

[dirtyboot]

I could see that being an issue if you are in an area to drive year-round, but most wind up putting their cars up for the winter, at which point they have to worry about maintaining them to prevent flattening, dry rot, date codes. IMO having a tire that wears each season is a good way to ensure you're always good on tires & alignment at the start of the year. Less worries of nails, leaks, expiration, storage complications, etc. and excellent performance to boot makes it a pretty convenient package.

[Bill Pemberton]

3500 miles is great , since Toyo advertises this tire as Autocross and Track use only , it has a 100 treadwear rating ( lower than Pilot Sport Cup 2s ), and it's main focus is not for the street. Should not be any surprises , as Toyo openly states the purpose of the tire and anything with a treadwear rating that low the performance consumer should be aware will have a short tread life!?

[TrackAire]

I've got the R888R's as my street tires on my Viper and my track/street tires on my Z06. The do get louder with wear, more of a zinging sound at speeds over 50 mph, especially on certain road surfaces. But they are amazingly round and smooth riding.

I just switch the Z06 over to the Toyo RR's and did a track day at Laguna Seca yesterday. They were AWESOME compared to the R888R's on the track. Essentially like a Hoosier with only two rain grooves and there were dead silent on the highway and also very round providing a very smooth and quiet ride.

[Steakfeast]

I've run R888r on 4 different cars. M3, R8, GTR and Viper. Regarding a Gen V Viper, you can barely hear the tires over engine and wind noise. In some cars the noise is more pronounced, but the Viper has so many other noises, you won't hear the tires.

In the rain the grip isn't great but it can be done. Just stay around 50 to 60 mph, max.

[Stealth78]

Wanted to update some info on the R888R for anyone that comes across this thread while searching. As noted above, I have had them on the front for the last 4Kish miles. No noticeable increase in tire noise or decrease in performance compared to the original Kumhos. I am guessing the front will last 75% longer than the originals.

A few weeks ago I replaced the rear Kumhos with the R888R, and I drove it for the first time last weekend. At 80MPH the tire noise is definitely noticeable now. It is basically a humming noise similar to large tires on an off-road truck. It is not yet bothersome in my case, but I have only driven the car ~50 miles. I will need more time to decide whether it bothers me enough to go back to the Kumho/Toyo mix.

What's your opinion traction wise versus the Kumho's now that you have them on the rear?

[capevettes]

3500 miles is great , since Toyo advertises this tire as Autocross and Track use only , it has a 100 treadwear rating ( lower than Pilot Sport Cup 2s ), and it's main focus is not for the street. Should not be any surprises , as Toyo openly states the purpose of the tire and anything with a treadwear rating that low the performance consumer should be aware will have a short tread life!?

I didn't say I was surprised by it. I knew I would enjoy them because of the increased handling capabilities, but I also knew they would wear quickly. Not surprised but not thrilled with it.

[Gen5snake]

One of the members on here, sneaky snakes (slowhatch) runs these. You can hear it in his videos when he's off throttle (at the 2 min mark). Love his spirited driving. https://youtu.be/5AbKsO8Iotk

[serpent]

One of the members on here, sneaky snakes (slowhatch) runs these. You can hear it in his videos when he's off throttle (at the 2 min mark). Love his spirited driving. https://youtu.be/5AbKsO8Iotk
Problem is its a h&c car with exhaust so you wont really hear the tires. the typical gen V will not be an H&C car...

[Bill W]

A couple of different issues:

1. You will like the Toyo's over the Corsa's. The performance edge going to the Toyo. The car just feels better with the Toyo's.

2. My car is also loud, the tire noise is sort of a high frequency whine, I do not find it that annoying, plus, it is hard to hear over the exhaust. It is sort of strange, you will have no noise at all over 50 % of the time , then, you hit a certain road texture and you get a noise that is similar to a rear end whine.

I have 3000 miles on my R888R tires. Same thing. Most times the tires aren't loud at all to me. Then I'll drive on another road and they are noticeably loud. Especially noticeable on one particular concrete highway near me. Most times no problem at all.

[wakebum2507]

I only notice how loud they are when i'm doing 55+, and the stereo is down. I recently dynomat'd my doors (inside and out) and the rear trunk space under the carpet, and you can still hear the road noise from the tires.

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

I only notice how loud they are when i'm doing 55+, and the stereo is down. I recently dynomat'd my doors (inside and out) and the rear trunk space under the carpet, and you can still hear the road noise from the tires.

Curious, Do you have a stock exhaust?


The reason owners notice the rear tire noise more, is the same reason they notice diff gear noise: Your right ear is only about 24" from the diff ...And you are essentially sitting almost between the rear tires!

[wakebum2507]

Curious, Do you have a stock exhaust?


The reason owners notice the rear tire noise more, is the same reason they notice diff gear noise: Your right ear is only about 24" from the diff ...And you are essentially sitting almost between the rear tires!

sure do. I've got belanger headers, your high flow cats, to a custom Borla XR1 3" setup.

It makes sense for you to hear the tire noise and/or diff noise. I'm just adding to the discussion. You'll hear some tire noise with these tires.

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

Are you saying 'PartsRack HF Cats drown out the BAD noises, leaving only the GOOD noises" !?!

Thanks

[dewilmoth]

What's your opinion traction wise versus the Kumho's now that you have them on the rear?

Sorry, missed this. Have not pushed the car hard, but my initial impression is equal grip to the Kumhos. The real test will be in the fall when the IATs are under 83 and the car makes more power.

[dirtyboot]

Curious, Do you have a stock exhaust?


The reason owners notice the rear tire noise more, is the same reason they notice diff gear noise: Your right ear is only about 24" from the diff ...And you are essentially sitting almost between the rear tires!

This is accurate and beat me to the point. I was going to update that the r888r noise at >75mph to me sounds similar to diff whine, the difference being it's still there when you're off the throttle. Now, when I say diff whine - I don't mean the howling of a bad diff that some have reported, I mean just noticeable whine that you might make out over the other road/powertrain/radio noises of the car.

[Bill Pemberton]

Physics or not , if you are not tracking the car , and using the tire only for the street, then this thread is just a friendly little warning -- the tires are noisy,ha!

[uvbnbit]

There is a good post from yesterday on VOA FB page. video of the noise. Never would ever expect tire noise to be that loud and sound like a bad bearing or gear whine. It would drive me nuts.

[USAFPILOT]

I'll stick with the P Zero Corsa...if I can get a set. Backup plan is Michelin Sport Cup I guess.

[ViperNC]

Interesting discussion and good read. My Corsa's have about 2000 miles left on them and I'll be looking to get new shoes. I don't mind paying the premium for the best all around tires for track/street and typically would go with Pirelli or Michelin because you know what you're getting. My Backdraft Cobra needs tires NOW and was considering the Toyo R888R's, but after reading the thread I doubt that would be a good option for my purposes on either car. Might be cheaper, but on the off chance I get caught in the rain (its happened once or twice) I'd like to know I still have grip.

[ViperGeorge]

Did anyone get the following email from the VOA? I did not but a friend did.

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[USAFPILOT]

Yep took the survey....crickets

[SRT_BluByU]

Survey taken.. although it said thank you rock johnson.. have no idea who that is

[Gen5snake]

Got and took the survey.

[ViperNC]

Survey done. Looks like the closest size with Michelin Sport Cup 2's is 345/30/19 for the rear.

[Bruce H.]

Survey received and done. I could probably use half a container myself but I'd need to book a lot more track days!

[ViperGeorge]

I guess Rick Jackson will be buying a lot of tires. Looks like the survey had the name of the recipient included. If Mods are paying attention to this thread maybe they could correct it.