Gen IV Actual Market Value

[S281e]

So looking at KBB the fair market value for a Gen IV is about 45k-55k. When adjusted for low miles it's closer to 50k-60k. If your looking at a 2010 it jumps close to 10k. Is there something different from the 2007-2009 from the 2010 model? What is the actual range I should be able to find a Gen IV in excellent condition with less then 10,000 miles?

[Steve-Indy]

NADA may also be helpful...note, there were NO 2007 Vipers.

2009's had a little less throttle lag than the 2008's with a slight change in the factory PCM.

Fewer 2010's were made...and, that year, 5th gear was changed giving much quicker acceleration to the top speed of 202 mph for a non-aero equipped coupe.

Frankly, I think all three years of Gen IV's are great cars!! And, yes, we have a 2008 and a 2010.

[99RT10]

NADA may also be helpful...note, there were NO 2007 Vipers.

2009's had a little less throttle lag than the 2008's with a slight change in the factory PCM.

Fewer 2010's were made...and, that year, 5th gear was changed giving much quicker acceleration to the top speed of 202 mph for a non-aero equipped coupe.

Frankly, I think all three years of Gen IV's are great cars!! And, yes, we have a 2008 and a 2010.

I agree, best years for the Gen 4, 2008-2009-2010. I have a 2008, and 2 2009. Great cars for the money. I am looking for a 2010. I am selling a 2008. I do not consider a 2013 until these enine issues are figured out. Love the Gen 4s.

[06SRTCoupe]

Mike the Gen IV's were only made in 08, 09, and 10. :smilielol:

[99RT10]

mike the gen iv's were only made in 08, 09, and 10. :smilielol:

:D .....

[S281e]

So what is it that makes the Gen III/IV get over looked? You see plenty of Gen II/V for sale and compared to the Gen III/IV they seem to maintain there value more. I just prefer the look of the Gen IV and since I can get it a bit cheaper just st makes me even happier.

[2001gts]

Gen2 are very much confused or match the looks of a Gen1, both are iconic.
The iconic nature is why the Gen1/2 have retained and maintained value. The gen3 looks different and is less iconic.

How many then 15-17 year olds dreamed of driving owning a viper when they came out. Me Me Me now mid forty with plenty of disposable income laughs at spending 40K on a car which they thought was unobtainable.

Gen3 doesn't fit that vision and looks different.

Gen5 are really just so much better than previous generations from a drivers and performance standpoint, nanny gear ABS and working A/C, and refinements in technology and shifting, etc. In my opinion they also look kind of like the Gen2 GTS. Consider if you drive a Gen5 and you don't typically walk away saying, "thank god I survived that", "wow that was just raw and obnoxious", or "my wife will never ride in this". All of which could happen in a Gen3/2/1.

[06SRTCoupe]

A Gen V is hardly better than a Gen IV in performance...especially a 2010.

Also, Gen IV cars hold their value as good or better than ANY previous Generation. A clean Gen IV under 10K miles is worth over 60K for a coupe and high high 50's pr low 60's for a Vert.

The Gen V has lost value compared to the original asking price. Dodge had to lower it 15K so they could sell. If you take that original price...they have dropped more in value than the Gen IV of similar mileage except for the like new ones that are 1-2 years old and the ACR's.

[Stealth78]

I love my GenIV! My GenIII was okay (it was stock with only a catback) but my GenIV is noticeably better in almost every way... engine, transmission, rear diff, and even the appearance of the hood. I can't say I don't like the look of a GenII, of course it looks good. But there has always been one thing that bugs me about the iconic GenII, the rear exit exhaust. I feel like the GenII GTS is the black sheep of Viper's. A Viper needs to have a side exit exhaust in my opinion. I think if you find a sub 10,000 mile clean GenIV for under $55K you have found a killer deal. If it is an outside of the box color, under $60K is a killer deal! I bought my GenIV two years ago. I was lucky enough to get the color I wanted, at the time I would only buy SSG or VVO. My car had $1,846 miles on it and I paid $62,500. I felt like I got a phenomenal deal. I even had to ship it across this country so I more or less paid $64,000 to get it home.

[Stealth78]

As for performance between a GenIV and a GenV, yes I realize they've knock some seconds off track times (put equivalent coil overs in a GenIV and it would be real close), but in a straight line it is extremely tight. When my GenIV was bone stock last year I ran another member in his GenV from about 80 to 140, we stayed at each other's door! He even had an Arrow tune. His was non-aero as well.

[S281e]

I plan on seeing a Gen 3/4/5 in person next week. Hopefully I can text drive two of these as well.

[S281e]

So what would be a good range for a Gen IV ACR? 7-10k more? What are the differences from the standard model and ACR? Aero kit, stiffer springs, wheels, tires....

[06SRTCoupe]

I think the brakes are better also.

If the ACR has under 10K miles...plan on paying over 70k. They hold crazy good value. If the mileage is under 5K you'll pay upper 70's.

[99RT10]

Worth every penny:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-Dodge-Viper-ACR-/273354209014?oid=192595627767

[FrankBarba]

Not with that type of Mileage. A little overpriced in my opinion...But what do I know?

[str5010]

So what would be a good range for a Gen IV ACR? 7-10k more? What are the differences from the standard model and ACR? Aero kit, stiffer springs, wheels, tires....

Adjustable aero package, two piece rotors, wheels, ride height and two way adjustable KW suspension, higher rate front anti roll bar and springs. Lap timer if it's a hardcore option car with an additional 40 lbs weight reduction. ACR package was a $12k option.

[Creatre]

Low mileage Gen IV will bring in about $60k. Low mileage ACR will bring in about $70k. You can find Gen IV verts as low as $50k and ACR as low as $60k if you don't mind a little more mileage (like 20-40k). Honestly don't let miles scare you on a Viper, it means they have been driven and maintained (usually), and Vipers are pretty much bullet proof (in terms of an exotic).

[Bill Pemberton]

Prices are all over the place , but in reality the cars have gone up some, at a gradual pace. Now some are asking insane prices just to see if someone bites, but it is quite rare that knowledgeable , long term Viper owners/buyers are paying nose bleed sums. The positives are that the prices are stable and moving upwards to a degree. I think a measured uptick and stability is what we want to see with a discontinued car, and I don't see any reason it will not continue. Like Frank B., I don't see this one as in a realistic vein, especially with the miles.

[06SRTCoupe]

Worth every penny:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-Dodge-Viper-ACR-/273354209014?oid=192595627767

Mike come on dude...that is way overpriced.

[SilverACR]

So what is it that makes the Gen III/IV get over looked? You see plenty of Gen II/V for sale and compared to the Gen III/IV they seem to maintain there value more. I just prefer the look of the Gen IV and since I can get it a bit cheaper just st makes me even happier.

Because people keep their G4s! Everyone sells their no abs g2s and no one wants their G5’s with motor issues!
Yep flame on girls!!!


Edit... super secret I have seen the G4 ACR lay down times on the track comparable to the G5ACREs.... stock...

[quickster2]

If you look a track times at Laguna Seca you get the following fastest to slowest: 1:28.65 Gen V ACR, 131.58 Gen V ACR, 133.62 Gen V TA, 133.92 Gen IV ACR, 134.23 Gen V GTS.

[v10viperbox]

Mike come on dude...that is way overpriced.

I would sell my gen IV ACR with 60K in modifications and lower mileage at 10K under what he wants. That is just inane pricing.

[BlknBlu]

Worth every penny:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2009-Dodge-Viper-ACR-/273354209014?oid=192595627767

the twin to that car is here in Omaha.

Bruce

[99RT10]

Mike come on dude...that is way overpriced.

Worth............. Every............... Penny............. :D :D :D

[ViperJon]

Edit... super secret I have seen the G4 ACR lay down times on the track comparable to the G5ACREs.... stock...

And with equally skilled drivers like at Laguna Seca the Gen V ACR beat the Gen IV by five seconds. Guess it depends how you define “comparable”.

It’s interesting how Gen IV owners here feel the way to promote their generation is to denigrate other generations.

[SA Heat]

It’s interesting how Gen IV owners here feel the way to promote their generation is to denigrate other generations.

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[str5010]

And with equally skilled drivers like at Laguna Seca the Gen V ACR beat the Gen IV by five seconds. Guess it depends how you define “comparable”.

It’s interesting how Gen IV owners here feel the way to promote their generation is to denigrate other generations.

My Gen IV is great because its provided hours of fun on track without letting me down while still being comfortable enough to drive 10 hours to Detroit and back.

[06SRTCoupe]

Oh relax ViperJon. Did you get your feelings hurt? :smilielol:

I do agree though that comparing ACR's between Gen IV and V is foolish...Gen V wins every time. You would have to put better aero, car on brakes, and the same tire as the Gen V ACR to get any real conparison.

[Stealth78]

Oh relax ViperJon. Did you get your feelings hurt? :smilielol:

I do agree though that comparing ACR's between Gen IV and V is foolish...Gen V wins every time. You would have to put better aero, car on brakes, and the same tire as the Gen V ACR to get any real conparison.

Simply put a GenV intake on with a slightly more free flowing exhaust like the GenV, combine that with CC brakes and that 5 second difference he speaks of is probably closer to 2 seconds. Not a bad compromise for a car that can be had for half the price.

[Old Surfer]

I feel like the GenII GTS is the black sheep of Viper's. What??

[ViperJon]

Oh relax ViperJon. Did you get your feelings hurt? :smilielol:.

Can you blame me? Every time I look in my garage and see that crappy 2017 GTS-R I get consumed with jealousy.

[viperBase1]

Sounds to me like some folks are cherry picking their data.

Kelly Blue Book (KBB) is not appropriate for valuation of a Viper, or any other supercar for that matter.

I don't even look at KBB to value the C7 Corvette Grandsport market I'm watching n' that's a high production car.
The business of KBB is high production consumer cars.

If you're going to reference KBB, they have a very different definition of "Low Mileage".
For example, a 2008 (a 10 year old car) with 25,000 miles => 2,500 miles / year is considered extremely low mileage.
They also warn about seals, gaskets, lubed joints and bearings of "hardly used" cars (e.g. < ~3000 miles).
Research the KBB website.

One point that KBB does agree on is the Maintenance Record.
A car with <10,000 miles / year + a great Maintenance Record beats the snot out of a car <~3000 total miles.

[06SRTCoupe]

Can you blame me? Every time I look in my garage and see that crappy 2017 GTS-R I get consumed with jealousy.

Whoa...I knew you were upset but I didn't think you were this upset! Cheer up fella. Everything is going to be ok! Maybe go hug a puppy or something.

[Stealth78]

What??

If you're going to quote me please be sure to include the reason that I had mentioned. I am not saying that I don't like the GenII GTS but I do believe the car would have been more "Viper" with a side exit exhaust.

[soundkillr]

If you're going to quote me please be sure to include the reason that I had mentioned. I am not saying that I don't like the GenII GTS but I do believe the car would have been more "Viper" with a side exit exhaust.

This is true, plus with the gen 3/4 you get the wave from all the corvette owners and s2000 vtec guys!

[Old Surfer]

If you're going to quote me please be sure to include the reason that I had mentioned. I am not saying that I don't like the GenII GTS but I do believe the car would have been more "Viper" with a side exit exhaust.So to be clear, you're saying that the Gen II GTS is the black sheep of the Viper family because it does not have side pipe exit exhausts?

[soundkillr]

So to be clear, you're saying that the Gen II GTS is the black sheep of the Viper family because it does not have side pipe exit exhausts?

I think what he means is, the gen 1 2 and 5 dont have vtec.

[ACRucrazy]

Adjustable aero package, two piece rotors, wheels, ride height and two way adjustable KW suspension, higher rate front anti roll bar and springs. Lap timer if it's a hardcore option car with an additional 40 lbs weight reduction. ACR package was a $12k option.

If I recall, the ACR package increased to $14,000/$14,500 by 2009 or 2010.

[Stealth78]

So to be clear, you're saying that the Gen II GTS is the black sheep of the Viper family because it does not have side pipe exit exhausts?
Correct!

[Stealth78]

I think what he means is, the gen 1 2 and 5 dont have vtec.

I could not be more confused by your statement.

[Old Surfer]

Correct!Well, I will have to humbly disagree with you on that assessment. Although it was the second Generation, I consider it the blueprint for which all other Vipers have spawned. The body shape, clam shell hood, performance, tire sizes, were all considered crazy back in '96. It is a car icon. Dodge/SRT realized this and the Generation V was created in the II's image. Its acceleration and corning ability were good enough to win their class at Le Mans 3 straight times.

"The Oreca team would strengthen their dominance in FIA GT in 1998, as the team managed to win all but one event in the ten race schedule. Oreca would also take their first class victory at Le Mans with an eleventh place overall finish. Chamberlain continued as a privateer in FIA GT earning several points, as well as earning a 14th-place finish at Daytona. Meanwhile, the Oftedahl Motorsport would purchase a Viper GTS-R and go on to score six class wins in the British GT Championship, including an overall race win at Silverstone and earning Kurt Luby and Richard Dean the drivers' championship."

"For 1999, Oreca's efforts were expanded further, as the team now operated in two championships: A two-car team in the new American Le Mans Series and the existing two car team already competing in FIA GT. FIA GT saw the Vipers once again sweep the series with nine wins for Oreca, and a lone win for the Paul Belmondo Viper. Chamberlain improved their team to finish second in the championship, while GLPK Carsport would be the fourth Viper squad to compete. A similar story occurred in the ALMS, with Oreca winning six races and taking that championship as well. Oreca would also earn their second straight win at Le Mans, with various Vipers finishing in the top six positions in their class. The FFSA GT Championship would see the appearance of Belmondo's Vipers, earning two victories over the season, and the 24 Hours Nürburgring would see Zakspeed claiming overall victory."

"For 2000, Oreca chose to concentrate on North America, leaving the FIA GT Championship to privateers. The team opened the season with one of their most notable victories, winning the 24 Hours of Daytona by a small margin over the new Chevrolet Corvette factory team. Oreca went on to win ten races in the American Le Mans Series, eventually falling to Corvette in two rounds late in the season but once again securing the championship. Oreca would also outperform Corvette at Le Mans, winning their third straight class victory with a seventh-place finish. In FIA GT, the Paul Belmondo and new Carsport Holland teams would run strong and win a collective four races, but would not be able to overcome the five victories by the Lister Storm, forcing the two teams to settle for second and third in the championship. In French GT, the DDO, ART, and MMI squads would combine for a total of eight Viper victories."

Overall
24 Hours Nürburgring 1999, 2001, 2002
Rolex 24 at Daytona 2000
Spa 24 Hours 2001, 2002

Class victory
24 Hours of Le Mans 1998, 1999, 2000
12 Hours of Sebring 2000
Petit Le Mans 1999
Fuji 1000 km 2001

Series Championships
FIA GT Championship 1997, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2002
American Le Mans Series 1999, 2000

I like all the Generations, but to call the Generation II a black sheep because of a side pipe preference is kind of silly. Those black sheep are the only Generation with a pretty impressive race history. Homage should be paid, not insults.

[soundkillr]

I could not be more confused by your statement.

What im alluding to, is if anything, most consider the gen 3/4 the black sheep. To many, its too much a blend between an s2000 and a corvette. It's still a good looking car, but never said viper to me. The other gens all stand out more imho.

[RedTanRT/10]

And with equally skilled drivers like at Laguna Seca the Gen V ACR beat the Gen IV by five seconds. Guess it depends how you define “comparable”.


There's more differences, but for a track only comparison,

The Kuhmo's are worth 2 seconds, the extra 40 hp, say 1 second. But the G4 car cost is 50% less.

[06SRTCoupe]

What im alluding to, is if anything, most consider the gen 3/4 the black sheep. To many, its too much a blend between an s2000 and a corvette. It's still a good looking car, but never said viper to me. The other gens all stand out more imho.

Too many? The Gen 3 and 4 combined were in production the same number of years as the Gen 2 and their total production numbers are pretty close to each other. The Gen 3 and 4 look nothing like a Corvette if they are side by side. I won't even comment on the S2000 part. Finally, who is most? You clearly have no idea what you are talking about and are just going off your opinion. Funny post though. :smilielol:


Oh and BTW...when the Gen IV Aacr set the Ring record twice...it pretty much screamed Viper in my eyes. ;)

[soundkillr]

I've been at way to many car shows with car guys in the know, and non car people who always commented "to me the gen 3 and 4 looked alot like a vette, and in some cases a bigger s2000. Don't blame me, I've heard it many times. And the original comment was "to many people it looks like...." not they made too many gen 3 or 4. Sorry that wasn't clear.
Don't get me wrong, I like the gen 3 or 4 but prefer the earlier gens and gen 5

[Stealth78]

Well, I will have to humbly disagree with you on that assessment. Although it was the second Generation, I consider it the blueprint for which all other Vipers have spawned. The body shape, clam shell hood, performance, tire sizes, were all considered crazy back in '96. It is a car icon. Dodge/SRT realized this and the Generation V was created in the II's image. Its acceleration and corning ability were good enough to win their class at Le Mans 3 straight times.

"The Oreca team would strengthen their dominance in FIA GT in 1998, as the team managed to win all but one event in the ten race schedule. Oreca would also take their first class victory at Le Mans with an eleventh place overall finish. Chamberlain continued as a privateer in FIA GT earning several points, as well as earning a 14th-place finish at Daytona. Meanwhile, the Oftedahl Motorsport would purchase a Viper GTS-R and go on to score six class wins in the British GT Championship, including an overall race win at Silverstone and earning Kurt Luby and Richard Dean the drivers' championship."

"For 1999, Oreca's efforts were expanded further, as the team now operated in two championships: A two-car team in the new American Le Mans Series and the existing two car team already competing in FIA GT. FIA GT saw the Vipers once again sweep the series with nine wins for Oreca, and a lone win for the Paul Belmondo Viper. Chamberlain improved their team to finish second in the championship, while GLPK Carsport would be the fourth Viper squad to compete. A similar story occurred in the ALMS, with Oreca winning six races and taking that championship as well. Oreca would also earn their second straight win at Le Mans, with various Vipers finishing in the top six positions in their class. The FFSA GT Championship would see the appearance of Belmondo's Vipers, earning two victories over the season, and the 24 Hours Nürburgring would see Zakspeed claiming overall victory."

"For 2000, Oreca chose to concentrate on North America, leaving the FIA GT Championship to privateers. The team opened the season with one of their most notable victories, winning the 24 Hours of Daytona by a small margin over the new Chevrolet Corvette factory team. Oreca went on to win ten races in the American Le Mans Series, eventually falling to Corvette in two rounds late in the season but once again securing the championship. Oreca would also outperform Corvette at Le Mans, winning their third straight class victory with a seventh-place finish. In FIA GT, the Paul Belmondo and new Carsport Holland teams would run strong and win a collective four races, but would not be able to overcome the five victories by the Lister Storm, forcing the two teams to settle for second and third in the championship. In French GT, the DDO, ART, and MMI squads would combine for a total of eight Viper victories."

Overall
24 Hours Nürburgring 1999, 2001, 2002
Rolex 24 at Daytona 2000
Spa 24 Hours 2001, 2002

Class victory
24 Hours of Le Mans 1998, 1999, 2000
12 Hours of Sebring 2000
Petit Le Mans 1999
Fuji 1000 km 2001

Series Championships
FIA GT Championship 1997, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2002
American Le Mans Series 1999, 2000

I like all the Generations, but to call the Generation II a black sheep because of a side pipe preference is kind of silly. Those black sheep are the only Generation with a pretty impressive race history. Homage should be paid, not insults.

I say something about the side exit exhaust and this is what you come back with? Please spare me the Viper history details, I'm not exactly new to this community. It's also rather ironic that you mention that Chrysler realized this and brought the GenV back in the image of the GenII... Funny I don't remember the GenV be introduced with a rear exit exhaust. So apparently Chrysler themselves must agree with me about the exhaust. Thanks for the lesson though.

[SA Heat]

We're glad your S2000 and Corvette opinion is supported by "car guys in the know" (whatever that means) and non car people at car shows. That's about as stupid as the car show comments I've heard about Gen 1/2s being goofy clown shoes and crappy production kit cars.

[SilverACR]

Yep that looks exactly like a G3/4 viper! The car guys in the know really know...

33565

[soundkillr]

Guys dont get pissed. Send me your addresses and I'll send you corvette key chains. Lol. Im relaying what ive heard multiple times.

[Rmj]

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc466/rmilnejr/C751115A-95C7-4468-98F2-20F927119333.jpeg (http://s1213.photobucket.com/user/rmilnejr/media/C751115A-95C7-4468-98F2-20F927119333.jpeg.html)
I guess gen v’s have similarities as well?

[Old Surfer]

I say something about the side exit exhaust and this is what you come back with? Thanks for the lesson though.You said more than something. You said the Gen II Viper was the black sheep of all the generations because of it lacking a side exit exhaust. Maybe after that comment a history lesson was in order. If you don't think the V is a reborn II absent the side pipes, you're just being disingenuous. You're welcome.

[SilverACR]

Guys dont get pissed. Send me your addresses and I'll send you corvette key chains. Lol. Im relaying what ive heard multiple times.

I hope no one is taking this serious enough to actually get pissed;) Of course people can compare a vette or any other 2 seat sports car to a viper. That’s the general group of cars called sports cars. 2 seat, 2 doors, big brakes, high power, etc. thanks for the key chain offer but you can find those at any gas station/ truck stop in America so we’re probably all good.

[06SRTCoupe]

I hope no one is taking this serious enough to actually get pissed;) Of course people can compare a vette or any other 2 seat sports car to a viper. That’s the general group of cars called sports cars. 2 seat, 2 doors, big brakes, high power, etc. thanks for the key chain offer but you can find those at any gas station/ truck stop in America so we’re probably all good.

I don't think anyone is "pissed" either. Soundkillr is ignorant and funny...that's about it. The funniest thing about his ridiculous argument is, stating the Gen 3/4 Viper looks like the Vette. Interesting...that Viper body style came out in 03...the C6 Vette came out in 05. If they actually did look alike...who is copying who? As funny as that was, his "people in the know" comment was even more entertaining. :smilielol:

Soundkillr, thank you for providing laughs and entertainment!

[Bill Pemberton]

I personally think the 2007 Gen VI Viper was the best looking of all of them!!!!

[Angleiron]

I really like driving my Gen IV...sometimes more than the Gen V. I have the Arrow PCM so there is no throttle lag, and the burble is back when you let off the gas. It is a vert so that has its upside as well.

[soundkillr]

I don't think anyone is "pissed" either. Soundkillr is ignorant and funny...that's about it. The funniest thing about his ridiculous argument is, stating the Gen 3/4 Viper looks like the Vette. Interesting...that Viper body style came out in 03...the C6 Vette came out in 05. If they actually did look alike...who is copying who? As funny as that was, his "people in the know" comment was even more entertaining. :smilielol:

Soundkillr, thank you for providing laughs and entertainment!

Glad I could make you laugh. "people in the know" are car guys who understand style. Doesn't make me ignorant. I could just as easily claim you're pissed because you drive a car often confused for a vette. It doesn't really matter to me who copied who, or who says what, just pointing out what I've heard in the past. Corvette Keychain for you?

[FrankBarba]

I will take a Corvette Keychain. I have my first 2019 ZR1 Delivery. I will be picking up at the Corvette Museum in August....
PM me and I will send you my address....

[SilverACR]

I personally think the 2007 Gen VI Viper was the best looking of all of them!!!!

That was the best year it looked just like a Miata that year with ultra black sheepish one side exhaust and one rear exhaust! Super rare! I’ll take one if you ever get one on trade Bill;)

[Martin]

I personally think the 2007 Gen VI Viper was the best looking of all of them!!!!

I really loved the stealth technology it came with. I could drive a warp speed and never get pulled over because I could turn on the cloaking device. That, and I could sneak into the women's locker room without a problem at all. Invisibility really should be standard on all cars.

[Stealth78]

With what you have mentioned and what can be viewed by those two pics, I'd say anywhere from $53K-$58K.

[Stealth78]

You said more than something. You said the Gen II Viper was the black sheep of all the generations because of it lacking a side exit exhaust. Maybe after that comment a history lesson was in order. If you don't think the V is a reborn II absent the side pipes, you're just being disingenuous. You're welcome.

How do you not realize you are strengthening my point. I do agree that the GenV is a modernized version of the GenII. That being said the ONE MAJOR DIFFERENCE (visually) is the side exit exhaust. Apparently Chrysler had a similar opinion as I do now. If they thought the GenI, III & IV were a mistake with exhaust why would they have altered the reborn again GenV?

[S281e]

Stealth78....,,shoot me an email at s281e@yahoo.com if your serious about selling. Depending on price and condition I may be interested.

[Stealth78]

Stealth78....,,shoot me an email at s281e@yahoo.com if your serious about selling. Depending on price and condition I may be interested.

Hello, my apologies if there was confusion. My car has 6,700 miles on it and I just invested a lot into it. My car is not for sale. I was trying to help JasonSSG establish a value if his car.

[FrankBarba]

There is an Ass for every Seat. And a Bank Account that goes with it...

[S281e]

That was my mistake stealth78. JasonSSG....shoot me an email if your interested in selling.

[FrankBarba]

Is this listed in the Classifieds ?

[City]

Is this listed in the Classifieds ?

Exactly the right question. Unfortunately, no, so his forum ads have been removed and he's been advised of the circumstances and our guidelines. Membership does have its privileges. :dude3:

[Bill Pemberton]

Thanks so much City .......... folks love the free advice , but do not want to pay to play! We have a society where many feel entitled today, and this is a pretty open Forum compared to many, but Members do get benefits and SpongeBob Free Ads need to be taken down. Too many are taking advantage of the Club's kind nature without joining up, and there is no doubt most get way more than the membership fee in just advice and friendly help ,alone.

[Nightshade199]

I love my GenIV! My GenIII was okay (it was stock with only a catback) but my GenIV is noticeably better in almost every way... engine, transmission, rear diff, and even the appearance of the hood. I can't say I don't like the look of a GenII, of course it looks good. But there has always been one thing that bugs me about the iconic GenII, the rear exit exhaust. I feel like the GenII GTS is the black sheep of Viper's. A Viper needs to have a side exit exhaust in my opinion. I think if you find a sub 10,000 mile clean GenIV for under $55K you have found a killer deal. If it is an outside of the box color, under $60K is a killer deal! I bought my GenIV two years ago. I was lucky enough to get the color I wanted, at the time I would only buy SSG or VVO. My car had $1,846 miles on it and I paid $62,500. I felt like I got a phenomenal deal. I even had to ship it across this country so I more or less paid $64,000 to get it home.

I totally agree on the rear-exit, which is why I converted my Gen 2 to side pipes. Best mod I've done to it!