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GTS21
04-22-2018, 06:24 PM
Anyone else ever notice some odd carbon fiber weave on their rear wing? Where the wing meets the car, it looks like scratches, but on closer inspection, it's the carbon fiber weave under the clear coat that's a bit distorted. Pretty noticeable from the pics. Kind of odd. Any thoughts? Thanks!

Bruce H.
04-22-2018, 07:01 PM
Are you the original owner and was it factory installed?

GTS21
04-22-2018, 07:15 PM
Are you the original owner and was it factory installed?

Yep and yep! Thanks

SlateEd
04-22-2018, 08:02 PM
I have not seen anything like it on mine.. also a 2017 GTC with TA1.0

GTS21
04-22-2018, 08:14 PM
It's very visible in the sunlight, at angles. Can't miss it. I'm curious if it's an anomaly or common. Wonder if I can get a replacement piece.

SRT_BluByU
04-22-2018, 09:03 PM
nothing on mine like that either... 1 of 1 gtc ta1

Bruce H.
04-22-2018, 10:23 PM
Looks like a warranty claim.

pete.best
04-22-2018, 11:30 PM
Mine does not have this.

uncaged_viper
04-23-2018, 09:25 AM
I've got a similar (albeit slightly less) version of you're talking about.

bluesrt
04-23-2018, 10:43 AM
they had issues on this

Vipes
04-23-2018, 11:19 AM
Looks like a warranty claim.

Agreed.

GTS21
04-23-2018, 11:25 AM
I appreciate the input fellas. I noticed this when I got the car months ago, but then winter set in and I didn't have the car out in the sunlight until recently. I've contacted my dealer (Roanoke) and will update this thread when I hear back

Lost me beer
04-23-2018, 02:10 PM
Curious to see what they do. Since this is a hand layed piece, they all will have a slightly different look. I do agree that whomever did ur piece might have been sniffing the glue a bit more than the rest.
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SRT_BluByU
04-26-2018, 05:43 PM
for comparison heres a picture of mine in the sun.. look is consistant throughout. hope that helps!

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GTS21
04-27-2018, 12:09 PM
This is helpful, thanks! Anyone else able to post pics from angles similar to what I posted up top? Trying to get a sense of whether I'm just being overly picky or if this is a legit concern. The muddled CF weave causing the artifacts showing in my pics only seems to be where the wing meets the metal facing the rear window. thanks again

GTS21
07-17-2018, 12:31 PM
Looks like they're going to warranty this. Is this a difficult piece to remove/reinstall? Should I be concerned with the dealers body shop undertaking this? thanks

cubeman
07-17-2018, 12:53 PM
Looks like they're going to warranty this. Is this a difficult piece to remove/reinstall? Should I be concerned with the dealers body shop undertaking this? thanks

Depends on the dealers body shop, It's held on by windshield adhesive, just need to be careful with removal and new install. I didn't have one so I paid a high end/quality body shop to do it, turned out great.

ViperSmith
07-19-2018, 07:01 AM
Looks like they're going to warranty this. Is this a difficult piece to remove/reinstall? Should I be concerned with the dealers body shop undertaking this? thanks

Not with Roanoke doing it.

GTS21
07-19-2018, 10:32 AM
Not with Roanoke doing it.

I WISH they could do it, but even though I purchased from them, they're far from me geographically.

sadil
07-19-2018, 02:29 PM
I did notice some distortion in the weave in the center area of the wing on the outside edge. Seems like the cloth was kinked or something. So far is the only issue I have found. It does not show up as a different color. It only really shows up when you try and follow the wave. It is straight and then not so straight for a few inches and then returns to normal. I don't want some newb trying to take the wing off at the dealer and damaging something else.

GTS21
07-19-2018, 02:55 PM
I don't want some newb trying to take the wing off at the dealer and damaging something else.

Exactly. Wondering if I should leave well enough alone.

SRT_BluByU
07-19-2018, 08:26 PM
im sure the dealer body shop can handle it.. it likely has some instructions how to do it... take good pix of the area all around before you drop it off.. if by some small chance you have a problem have them fix it. or ship it iff to prefix if you want total piece of mind.

dirtyboot
07-20-2018, 11:17 AM
If you do get them to replace it, see if you can keep the one they remove, I'd be happy to take it!

GTS21
10-19-2018, 12:26 PM
Update and a question...I'm planning to have my new replacement (warranty) wing installed on my GTC....has anyone ever had to REMOVE a factory wing? The body shop mentioned that if the factory piece is put on with urethane, removing it could take some paint with it. That scares the crap out of me. The new piece is sitting at my dealership, and I have a high end body shop lined up (Cavallo in West Chester, PA), but i don't want to risk removing paint when the old wing is taken off. Thanks

cubeman
10-19-2018, 01:15 PM
Update and a question...I'm planning to have my new replacement (warranty) wing installed on my GTC....has anyone ever had to REMOVE a factory wing? The body shop mentioned that if the factory piece is put on with urethane, removing it could take some paint with it. That scares the crap out of me. The new piece is sitting at my dealership, and I have a high end body shop lined up (Cavallo in West Chester, PA), but i don't want to risk removing paint when the old wing is taken off. Thanks

Correct, I chipped up my wing with some rocks on Crown Rally. After looking at options the only way to restore it 100% is to remove it and re-clear it. If removed it most likely will remove paint. Is it 100%? No, But it's adhered like other various body parts with urethane and even with proper heat applied it can/will pull paint. In-fact after discussing this he also said that if this was insurance related to a broken wing only, he would have to bill out/estimate to repaint the hatch and blend because most likely the paint will pull up from outside of underneath the wing as well now.

tl;dr - you could get lucky, you may not. Best case scenario is it only pulls paint from under the spoiler.

dirtyboot
10-19-2018, 03:06 PM
If it's a warranty repair, the whole process of the job should be covered..I would think that includes the paint that's pulled by the urethane since it's understood that it happens. Something to discuss with them about the claim.

cubeman
10-19-2018, 03:28 PM
If it's a warranty repair, the whole process of the job should be covered..I would think that includes the paint that's pulled by the urethane since it's understood that it happens. Something to discuss with them about the claim.

That's correct. I think the OP is less concerned about FCA paying for it, but having the car painted in general and trying to preserve the original paint if possible.

GTS21
10-19-2018, 03:48 PM
That's correct. I think the OP is less concerned about FCA paying for it, but having the car painted in general and trying to preserve the original paint if possible.

Exactly. If there's a good chance that the paint will be damaged from removal, i'll just live with the CF wing as is, blemishes and all. I don't want to open a can of worms here.

dirtyboot
10-22-2018, 10:25 AM
Gotcha. In the end, long as you're happy with it that's what matters.

GTS21
10-22-2018, 11:04 AM
Gotcha. In the end, long as you're happy with it that's what matters.

Thanks. I appreciate the help fellas. I'm going to bring the car to the body shop and have them take a look at it. If they tell me that paint removal is likely, i'll scrap the idea and tell my dealer to send the new wing back

bluesrt
10-22-2018, 11:47 AM
if it does remove a bit of paint/ you will never see it

GTS21
10-22-2018, 11:57 AM
if it does remove a bit of paint/ you will never see it

True, but im worried it could peel up paint beyond what's under the existing wing, requiring a re-spray of the entire hatch?

dirtyboot
10-22-2018, 12:23 PM
True, but im worried it could peel up paint beyond what's under the existing wing, requiring a re-spray of the entire hatch?

Depending on the paint, just respraying the hatch may cause the hatch to not match the rest of the car, which would require an entire repaint. Prefix is excellent at maintaining consistency in doing single part paints though from what I've read from others on here sending their hatch or other pieces off. If it's possible to keep the spoiler without the install [ie: DIY replacement], you might do that just in case you later change your mind

mikesax
10-22-2018, 12:38 PM
Had a problem with my rear piece last year-needed replacing- I told the guys NOT TO WORRY if something chipped - they WERE NOT LOOKING FORWARD to taking it off! Used "piano wire" I think and a shitload of elbow grease- came off and the new one went on PERFECTLY!! They were SUPER PATIENT and EXTREMELY CAREFUL-"twas a bitch"!

GTS21
10-24-2018, 11:53 AM
To close the loop on this, the replacement wing came in, and has the same issue as my existing wing, maybe even a bit worse. lol. Maybe they used up all the good ones, and my July 2017 build and the replacements are the so-so ones.

cubeman
10-24-2018, 12:14 PM
To close the loop on this, the replacement wing came in, and has the same issue as my existing wing, maybe even a bit worse. lol. Maybe they used up all the good ones, and my July 2017 build and the replacements are the so-so ones.

Could always have it blocked and recleared. I bought mine used for $1k and spent $500 refurbing it at the shop I use. Looks great minus the chip i have in the clear from a rock. The way I see it is OEM quality on lots of parts is crap. A new spoiler I got for my Charger SRT Superbee is just black plastic mounted to the trunk link. The plastic looked awful and had white in it from bad molding or something.