View Full Version : Why don't you like Eibachs?
Viper98912
02-13-2014, 12:03 PM
I've read on here that a few of your are dumping your Eibachs for other setups. Why? Harsh ride quality, bounciness, etc? Comtemplating a set of Eibachs on stock Koni's vs. doing nothing (4x4) vs. the results of the trials of the BC coilovers.
Timnineside
02-13-2014, 12:43 PM
People are dumping the Eibachs usually because they are ready to fork up the dough for a full suspension. Typically the Eibachs are used to primarily lower the car for looks. I suppose ride and drive ability changes as well but the largest benefit is ride height. I did this until I found my BC racing coilovers but a lot of Viper guys are going with KW, Moton (MCS) and Penske.
-Tim
Bill Pemberton
02-13-2014, 12:46 PM
Keep in mind Moton is not MCS, which might be inferred by your parentheses. May be a bit biased , but consider MCS a step above Moton , as they are alot of the major talents from Moton who
are over doing the MCS magic!!!
Steve M
02-13-2014, 12:55 PM
Although I've never personally used them on a Viper, if they are like any other installation, the problem lies in the damping ability of the OEM shocks. Shocks that are designed with a certain amount of travel in mind usually don't fare well when you take away 1"-2" of their travel, usually combined with addition of spring rate. The most obvious manifestation of this is a bouncy ride as the shocks struggle to control everything.
JonB ~ PartsRack
02-13-2014, 01:32 PM
You DO get what you pay for!
Eibachs are $315.00 vs Adjustable Coilovers at $3000.00-$5000. If you are NOT in a quest for faster lap times, the choice is often budget-driven. And cosmetically inspired.
Not only do we use and like Eibachs (Gen 2 x 2) we do sell a lot. Informed Buyers matter! Autocrossers love em....
OP Viper98912, Gen 2 Konis are REBOUND ADJUSTABLE when you install the Eibachs. You should stiffen the full-soft factory setting when using these progressive springs. The result is a moderately-stiffer ride, with a lower C.G. for nimbleness.
The Gen 3-4 shock dampers are not adjustable, so some owners think the SRT-Eibach is more bouncy than they hoped for. But they like the look, and the lower CG for Cheap$$
You can always choose Thin-Spring-Caps .....same exact ride as Stock, just a better look, less GAP, a lower CG, and less labor....at only $159 for all 4
ViperGTS
02-13-2014, 03:03 PM
I am sure you can easily destroy the suspension characteristics with shorter springs etc ignoring the millions of $ that went into the factory setup. Just for the looks.
Garage queen?
The Viper is a fast car. Any part south of the body/frame (suspension, rubber, etc.) is more important than anything else: e.g. stereo, tinted windows, wings, rims, blablabla
Viper98912
02-13-2014, 04:03 PM
My car is a Sunday cruiser, with the only track time it's seen was at VOI12. When I lower it (a little), it's mostly for looks.
I did see that some run setting 3 or 4 on the Gen2 Koni's when using Eibachs. Are most satisfied with this? Bounciness and harshness? I don't want to be driving a boat on rough seas when cruising.
I did put on the thinner spring caps on factory springs/shocks but I'm not fully satisfied with them, even though they're a great product for the price. Lowered all 4 corners 1/2" (I wanted just a slight bit more), but I'm also a little concerned with how thin the cross-section of material is that holds the weight of the car (spring seat to shock cap seat). I think there's 1000's of these out there that have been put on cars without one ever shearing, but I just don't want to be the first to find out when a corner slams to the ground. That's why I'm thinking to go back to stock caps and Eibachs to get me the 3/4"-1" I'm looking for, or find a new setup overall (BC coilovers?).
LATAMUD
02-13-2014, 04:53 PM
I had Eibachs and lowering springs on my 03, swapped in KWs. So, the stock ride height 97 just got hand-me-downs, installed the lowering springs and got an alignment yesterday. I'm happy.
BlackSnake99
02-13-2014, 04:59 PM
I was happy with my Eibachs. The BC coilovers were just too tempting.
NI-KA
02-13-2014, 07:06 PM
I have set of Eibachs for a Gen 2 if anyone is looking. Went with Penske.
JonB ~ PartsRack
02-13-2014, 07:49 PM
I also have a customer in MD-VA with G2 Eibachs and spring caps, under 1000 miles/ 6 mos. He went 19-20 afterwards, and for cosmetic reasons he went with KWs last week so he could fine-tune his wheel-gap and his driveway clearance. He wants $250 for all!
JonB@PartsRack.com, mention "JP Spring Kit" and we will handle it.... NO PMs please
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