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TOTJaybin
02-12-2014, 06:58 PM
Remember seeing a poster of the B/W GTS at library fair back in elementary school. Finally finished pharmacy school and bought my dream car!!!!

These mods were mostly done by Ted (CYAFORD) who previously owned this car
Corsa exhaust
Gen III tranny from JonB
Headers
poly engine and transmission mounts
SCT tune from Sean Roe
Smooth tubes with S&B filters
Billet aluminum power steering bracket
172F thermostat

-I've had at least 20 people tell me its cammed after they hear it idle- however don't have details on that. The previous 2 out the 4 owners said they thought it was too, but is a mystery on details of cam. YOUR THOUGHTS?
Link to videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyPI9O0P_Wo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqcTmjHSEPI

Newport Viper
02-12-2014, 07:06 PM
Nice car welcome!

Troublemaker
02-12-2014, 07:11 PM
Nice car, my bet would be the 708, which is stock. The car sounds healthy, either way.

BlackSnake99
02-12-2014, 07:12 PM
Does not sound like a 708 cam to me.

TOTJaybin
02-12-2014, 07:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyPI9O0P_Wo <--- This is better video

plumcrazy
02-12-2014, 07:36 PM
doesnt sound like a 708 to me either

pony23
02-12-2014, 08:02 PM
awesome color combo. One of my favorites. Good luck with her.

ICPREY
02-12-2014, 08:10 PM
My guess is it's a 708 with a full exhaust system. Mine sounded the same when it had the 708 cam. I doubt someone would change just the cam and not do the heads. I would dyno it to see the power which might help determine if it's a stock cam.

Space Truckin
02-12-2014, 08:25 PM
The garage video/ sound is cool. Dyno will be proof IMO Oh and congrats and welcome :drive:

GhostStalker27
02-12-2014, 08:53 PM
My guess is it's a 708 with a full exhaust system..

Agree with prey -708 cam (stock cam 96-99), no cats, corsa & headers

Here's mine for comparison (708 cam, no cats, borla) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZxGssyUHuU

TOTJaybin
02-12-2014, 08:54 PM
452rwhp/468rwtq 11.9@124mph

Dyno sheet below. First 2 runs were with SCT tunes from Roe. Third run was with what I thought was the stock PCM. Roe says the PCM has been modified.
3214

ICPREY
02-12-2014, 09:05 PM
Power seems to be in line with a healthy stock cam/head car. Sounds great congrats on the new ride!

Allan
02-12-2014, 09:23 PM
I like it.
Sounds totally sick.

Go scare some old ladies and children with it.

Watch out for cops.

Fatboy 18
02-13-2014, 02:28 AM
Nice car, welcome to the VOA :)

Sybil TF
02-13-2014, 07:45 AM
doesnt sound like a 708 to me either

Sounds like mine.

plumcrazy
02-13-2014, 07:49 AM
plenty of jackasses have done a cam without doing heads over the years., i always shook my head when i read about it

DrTaco
02-13-2014, 09:42 AM
Congrats on the car, nothing beats a B/W. Hope you solve the cam mystery, but for what it's worth Im with the "stock 708" crowd. Now the fun part begins to make it what YOU want anyway.

Link to my aftermarket cam car is in my sig. But it might not help cuz I have aftermarket heads as well.

moparracing
02-14-2014, 09:07 AM
452rwhp/468rwtq 11.9@124mph

Dyno sheet below. First 2 runs were with SCT tunes from Roe. Third run was with what I thought was the stock PCM. Roe says the PCM has been modified.
3214

same #'s with my roe tune on stock cam & catless full exhaust....... ran the same 1/4 too.

ACRucrazy
02-14-2014, 09:26 AM
Sounds good! Love me a Gen II!

Detroit Muscle
02-14-2014, 09:38 AM
Love that color combo.

TOTJaybin
02-14-2014, 07:47 PM
Awesome thanks for help guys!!!!

Jack's GTS
02-14-2014, 09:20 PM
Nice. Same here. Fell in love with the B&W GTS 15 years ago. Picked up my 97 last year.

gutterworks129
02-15-2014, 05:40 PM
Yes that is a 708, no cats. Welcome to the VOA.

VIPER BAZ UK
02-16-2014, 07:02 AM
Sounds good..And great looking Viper
Fitted a 708 in mine with no cats and full borla 2 muffler system....

NetkoGTS
02-16-2014, 05:15 PM
Sounds like it is stock but just with he exhaust sounds more lumpy.

Bill Pemberton
02-17-2014, 08:25 AM
Sounds similar to alot of early Gen IIs with Headers and a Corsa --- as others have mentioned it really sounds stock. By the way what headers is the car running?

slitherv10
02-17-2014, 09:28 AM
I think there is a hole in the mufflers. Check that and seal it with duct tape. The foil type (it holds heat better).:very_drunk:

Or, it could be just headers and exhaust as most pointed out. :drive:

TOTJaybin
02-17-2014, 08:30 PM
Not sure what brand of headers they are - Thanks again for the help guys. I do have an occasional backfire/pop at idle =/ I was told not to stress over it

Red Snake
02-24-2014, 08:09 PM
Sounds alot like mine......708 cam, no cats, Corsa, belanger headers and 1.7 rockers.

http://youtu.be/MnecpPSaDiw

gerch85
04-13-2014, 03:11 PM
It sounds like mine, b&b headers, no cats