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TA Two Oh
02-02-2018, 12:46 PM
On Monday I was lucky to have been invited to drive the Lauda "C" track at Spring Mountain, one of about 50 track configurations at this magnificent facility. I'd been there before, but not for a few years and it has expanded a great deal since my last visit. The Clubhouse is still there of course, with its elegant common area, racquetball courts, pool, Jacuzzi and spa. And of course there are the requisite garages, and a few apartment-style condos. There are also some large homes that back right onto the track... at least one has a heliport on its roof and another has a separate Helicopter garage. There's now a small lake, with stand up paddleboards and water-propelled jet packs available. I'm Canadian so they didn't tell me about the firing range. I heard that they recently leased a 300 acre parcel to the east, and another 600 acre plot to the -I think- northwest with plans to expand the track surface to over 15 miles. They're looking at building an Airstrip as well so that those unfortunate souls without a helicopter can still fly directly to the track in their airplanes. For "poors" like myself, it's less than an hours drive west of The Strip in Las Vegas on highway 160.

The track layout is brilliant in my opinion. They almost never run the full 6.1 mile track as it's normally split into 2 or 3 tracks so that multiple events can run concurrently. But the real genius is that many "corners" have alternate routes, and several sections overlap with those on other configurations which results in a a huge number of track permutations and combinations. I believe they run a race series where you get to drive a different track every race, but your car never leaves the place. The configurations shown on their website range in length from 1 mile to the 6.1 miler, with a couple at 4 miles each and 4 at 3 miles or more. The Lauda "C" that I ran is about 2.6 miles and included 3 straightaways, a really fun twisty up-ey down-ey rollercoaster-ey section, a very shallow but steep drop called "The Launch" and some gentle curves in sequence that are taken at 100MPH or so. A bit of everything! But it's easy to get a rhythm going. The Launch comes immediately after a tight turn and leads to a reasonable straight, but you have to be careful both with the throttle and car placement thanks to the severe unweighting that occurs. On my second or third lap under heavy throttle, I had just the teensiest bit of lateral acceleration underway when I hit it and a shark fin magically appeared on my seat cushion. Lesson learned.

Spring Mountain is the headquarters for a few Driving Schools, including Ron Fellows' excellent Cadillac and Corvette Academy's. The Vette school's skidpad happened to be taking place in the paddock that I used, so I felt a bit like the proverbial drop of oil in a large bucket of water. The Instructors were super nice... some even complimented my car out loud even though part of their job is to represent the GM brands. A few students came over to look at the Viper and most were nice as well, though I did have to endure a few "these weigh over 4,000 pounds, "Yeah, they're OK in a straight line but they don't corner worth a damn" comments from the uneducated among them. I happily pointed out the carbon fiber hatch and hood, while politely letting them know that my car weighs a couple of hundred pounds less that the current Vette with comparable power. And, all those track records set by it's big brother.

Obviously the school was on a separate track from mine so I had no opportunity to "do my trash talkin' on the asphalt" with them. As for other cars on Lauda "C" I pretty much had the entire surface to my self, all day! I was the guest of a Member with an incredibly well set up and expertly driven older 911 ... light on power but as close to a racecar you can get and still retain two license plate screws. From the race seat to the cage to the suspension and brakes, that thing is dialed in. He was kind enough to do lead/follow with me, and ride with me for a few laps until I was comfortable -which, in my particular case, always takes a while; I don't learn tracks easily. A new GT3 Porsche showed up for, perhaps 10 laps, then left. A Ferrari Challenge car, piloted by an outgoing and friendly fellow did a few laps, as did a wicked-fast Lotus 211 racecar. That was it; nobody to pass and nobody passed me. The TA was its usual self: fast, competent, reliable and dare I say, sexy! A wonderful day, unfortunately followed almost immediately by a flight back to the "below 0 degrees F" northern nightmare where I live.

Some pics from the day:
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Part of the unending sea of School Corvettes.
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TA Two Oh
02-02-2018, 12:47 PM
One last shot:
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RedTanRT/10
02-02-2018, 01:49 PM
Spring Mountain is a really great facility!! A few of us from SoCal are fortunate to go there once or twice a year for member/guest events (for the past 10 years!) We're lucky to half a dozen Viper owning members

the corvette folks usually arrive on Sunday and are always curious about the vipers. 90% look/act like they've never been on a track before.

here's a smallgroup shot from the fall of 2016


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Dan Cragin
02-02-2018, 01:50 PM
We were there Saturday and Sunday with a Comp Coupe. Wide open track, 5-6 sessions per day. We did both the east and west tracks. Fun!

RedTanRT/10
02-02-2018, 02:00 PM
We were there Saturday and Sunday with a Comp Coupe. Wide open track, 5-6 sessions per day. We did both the east and west tracks. Fun!

did you bring your assistant??

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Dan Cragin
02-02-2018, 02:05 PM
No she had an engine to rebuild!

TA Two Oh
02-02-2018, 02:49 PM
We were there Saturday and Sunday with a Comp Coupe. Wide open track, 5-6 sessions per day. We did both the east and west tracks. Fun!

When I checked in, they told me that Steve was there with his Comp Coupe. Sorry that I missed you guys!

BrianACR
02-02-2018, 04:54 PM
Sounds like you had a blast!

Exhlr8n
02-02-2018, 05:27 PM
It its an absolutely fabulous facility! Track was a blast and super clean. I was lucky to get invited by the SoCal group this past fall, everyone had a blast, great group of Viperholics. Hope to do it again..!
https://youtu.be/4FWWtHdHjzg

TA Two Oh
02-02-2018, 06:51 PM
Nice grouping! I'll bet you guys left a mark. Or too!

Bruce H.
02-03-2018, 06:30 AM
Nice write-up Doug! What an amazing and versatile facility,

Too bad you didn't have more company to play with on track. I suspect other cars just dove into the pits when they saw you barreling down on them in their rear views! Not sure I've ever tracked when I couldn't even tell if I was the fastest or slowest! Maybe you should have just said you were so freaking fast that you were never passed...not even close! lol

Looking forward to seeing you at NVE. I'm hoping to be able to do a group Bad-ass in Black TA pic with you!

Bruce

TA Two Oh
02-03-2018, 10:37 AM
Thanks, Bruce

"I suspect other cars just dove into the pits when they saw you barreling down on them in their rear views!"

More likely they saw me parked at every turn-in point and were worried about running over me.

Arizona Vipers
02-07-2018, 09:27 PM
Amazing facilities, lots of money went into that place. I only did two sessions there then blew up my motor :furious:

LmeaViper
04-02-2018, 07:36 PM
On Monday I was lucky to have been invited to drive the Lauda "C" track at Spring Mountain, one of about 50 track configurations at this magnificent facility. I'd been there before, but not for a few years and it has expanded a great deal since my last visit. The Clubhouse is still there of course, with its elegant common area, racquetball courts, pool, Jacuzzi and spa. And of course there are the requisite garages, and a few apartment-style condos. There are also some large homes that back right onto the track... at least one has a heliport on its roof and another has a separate Helicopter garage. There's now a small lake, with stand up paddleboards and water-propelled jet packs available. I'm Canadian so they didn't tell me about the firing range. I heard that they recently leased a 300 acre parcel to the east, and another 600 acre plot to the -I think- northwest with plans to expand the track surface to over 15 miles. They're looking at building an Airstrip as well so that those unfortunate souls without a helicopter can still fly directly to the track in their airplanes. For "poors" like myself, it's less than an hours drive west of The Strip in Las Vegas on highway 160.

The track layout is brilliant in my opinion. They almost never run the full 6.1 mile track as it's normally split into 2 or 3 tracks so that multiple events can run concurrently. But the real genius is that many "corners" have alternate routes, and several sections overlap with those on other configurations which results in a a huge number of track permutations and combinations. I believe they run a race series where you get to drive a different track every race, but your car never leaves the place. The configurations shown on their website range in length from 1 mile to the 6.1 miler, with a couple at 4 miles each and 4 at 3 miles or more. The Lauda "C" that I ran is about 2.6 miles and included 3 straightaways, a really fun twisty up-ey down-ey rollercoaster-ey section, a very shallow but steep drop called "The Launch" and some gentle curves in sequence that are taken at 100MPH or so. A bit of everything! But it's easy to get a rhythm going. The Launch comes immediately after a tight turn and leads to a reasonable straight, but you have to be careful both with the throttle and car placement thanks to the severe unweighting that occurs. On my second or third lap under heavy throttle, I had just the teensiest bit of lateral acceleration underway when I hit it and a shark fin magically appeared on my seat cushion. Lesson learned.

Spring Mountain is the headquarters for a few Driving Schools, including Ron Fellows' excellent Cadillac and Corvette Academy's. The Vette school's skidpad happened to be taking place in the paddock that I used, so I felt a bit like the proverbial drop of oil in a large bucket of water. The Instructors were super nice... some even complimented my car out loud even though part of their job is to represent the GM brands. A few students came over to look at the Viper and most were nice as well, though I did have to endure a few "these weigh over 4,000 pounds, "Yeah, they're OK in a straight line but they don't corner worth a damn" comments from the uneducated among them. I happily pointed out the carbon fiber hatch and hood, while politely letting them know that my car weighs a couple of hundred pounds less that the current Vette with comparable power. And, all those track records set by it's big brother.

Obviously the school was on a separate track from mine so I had no opportunity to "do my trash talkin' on the asphalt" with them. As for other cars on Lauda "C" I pretty much had the entire surface to my self, all day! I was the guest of a Member with an incredibly well set up and expertly driven older 911 ... light on power but as close to a racecar you can get and still retain two license plate screws. From the race seat to the cage to the suspension and brakes, that thing is dialed in. He was kind enough to do lead/follow with me, and ride with me for a few laps until I was comfortable -which, in my particular case, always takes a while; I don't learn tracks easily. A new GT3 Porsche showed up for, perhaps 10 laps, then left. A Ferrari Challenge car, piloted by an outgoing and friendly fellow did a few laps, as did a wicked-fast Lotus 211 racecar. That was it; nobody to pass and nobody passed me. The TA was its usual self: fast, competent, reliable and dare I say, sexy! A wonderful day, unfortunately followed almost immediately by a flight back to the "below 0 degrees F" northern nightmare where I live.

Some pics from the day:


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Awesome pic right there ^^^

TA Two Oh
04-03-2018, 08:37 AM
Thanks! I'll be back there in a month... can't wait. Tying it in with my NVE3 trip.

Vipes
04-03-2018, 11:51 AM
Awesome pics, black TA’s are stunning! I’m shocked you ran into such uneducated people in a track environment.

Dan Cragin
04-03-2018, 02:08 PM
One of the great things about being a Spring Mountain member is the tremendous amount of track time you get there. There are lots of track options and tons of support.
John Morris (the owner) got the car "itch" years ago with a Gen 2 Viper we prepared for him. Once retired his dream was to have his own track, with a "Golf Course" type setup.
A place to eat, clubhouse, your own condo or home, garage, etc. There is a place to land your plane or helicopter. A lake with water jet packs you can try, small hobby aircraft to fly. Spec
race cars to rent.

The track support crew is always happy and ready to help.

TA Two Oh
04-03-2018, 02:17 PM
Awesome pics, black TA’s are stunning! I’m shocked you ran into such uneducated people in a track environment.

Good point.

"Strongly resisting knee jerk two word response: Corvette People."

In all honesty, almost all of the Corvette guys were really nice. And most had likely never been on a track before. Plus, with so few Vipers on the road, I get that old "Viper Truths" don't easily die. My '94 was heavier than early 90's Corvettes. It was also faster than the Vette in a straight line, and more challenging to drive at its cornering limits. I recall reading a mid '90's Road & Track comparison track test where despite winning every performance contest, their test driver said of the Viper: "I never knew when it was going to leap out of my hands." He ranked it dead last. And while it's often accurate to comment that journalists just don't have the chops to drive our cars properly, in this particular case, the test drivers name was... Mario Andretti. He ain't exactly short in the skills category.

That test happened when, well, let's see... Taylor Swift was 6 years old. She's changed since then. And so have our cars. But I guess most people outside of our community don't follow Vipers as closely as they do certain pop/ country artists. I'm always happy to bring their Viper knowledge base up to date!

Bruce H.
04-03-2018, 03:47 PM
. I'm always happy to bring their Viper knowledge base up to date!

And it's amazing how often we have that opportunity at the track regardless of what cars they own! Fun to get out there together and completely change opinions over the course of a session or two :)

LmeaViper
04-03-2018, 07:08 PM
Thanks! I'll be back there in a month... can't wait. Tying it in with my NVE3 trip.

The weather is just crap here. The car is still under the cover and haven't started it in months.

TA Two Oh
04-03-2018, 08:08 PM
I'm also livin the dream at minus nineteen. In Calgary. I meant that I'll be back at Spring Mountain in a month when I head down for NVE3. This has been the longest, coldest winter I can recall. It was -31 in Fort McMurray on the weekend. In April.

Vipes
04-03-2018, 08:47 PM
I didn't know that about the older vipers. That actually explains a lot since I've gotten a couple similar comments before. By the way, that's quite amazing to get a track like that almost to yourself for the day.

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TA Two Oh
04-04-2018, 12:47 AM
Thanks, Vipes. Yeah, it was a great day!