What is considered a good price nowadays on a quot used quot Gen V

[Real Super Snake]

I'm in the market to buy my first Viper and am seeing prices all over the place for the past few months. I'm looking for a non-ACR just because it seems like its the better bargain for daily drivability and about half the price of the ACR's right now. I know prices got inflated once production shut down and those ACR cars listing for over sticker.

As far as I can tell, there are no major differences between all the Gen V's minus the ACR variants and T/A? So basically I'm down to mileage/age in terms of determining a fair price. Or where there any major issues in the earlier years that got fixed? I heard that some 2014 and all 2015 and above years have reinforced rear hoods that can support the weight of the ACR wing, while earlier models cannot.

Is this accurate? And is there anything I need to specifically look for or ask about when checking out a used Viper? What's a fair/good price these days?

Thanks again! Hope to be a true member soon! Can't wait!

[DZnutz]

dude theres one of these threads every month, browse through a few pages and youll have your answers

[catwood]

Shop like a fiend. Prices are all over the place (mid $40s for a buy back early SRT to $250K for a few delusional advertisers) besides the hunt is fun.

A GTC either TA2.0 or ACR package just sold at auction for $83750. Not sure that it was a Bondurant car. It was all white.

[SRT_BluByU]

buy the newest cleanest unmolested one you can find.. they arent building anymore and they arent getting cheaper. kbb/nada values are pretty off on these cars since they are so limited in production and have so many custom/different option combos. so make sure you have someone knowledgeable/familiar with gen 5 vipers go over it, find the color you like and pull the trigger. you wont be sorry.

[Real Super Snake]

dude theres one of these threads every month, browse through a few pages and youll have your answers

Ok, thanks. Did some searching but I guess I was using the wrong keywords. But prices do change with time.

[Real Super Snake]

buy the newest cleanest unmolested one you can find.. they arent building anymore and they arent getting cheaper. kbb/nada values are pretty off on these cars since they are so limited in production and have so many custom/different option combos. so make sure you have someone knowledgeable/familiar with gen 5 vipers go over it, find the color you like and pull the trigger. you wont be sorry.

I don't know any viper owners, would a dodge dealer PPI be good enough? Anything specific to look out for?

[camarochevy1970]

What area are you in? I'm sure another local owner would help you with the inspection etc. I wouldn't rely solely on a dealer for ppi

[Bruce H.]

I would contact your local VOA club and ask if they have a technical person as a club director or member, and if any local cars are for sale. Also ask if there is a recommended dealer or two in your area that has a Viper tech. That would be two or three sources of knowledgeable people to discuss and/or look at a prospective purchase. That would be a confident and convenient way to buy as opposed to chasing cars on the other side of the country. Lots of cars are going to have had issues, some serious, some not, and price would likely be affected either way. Don't be afraid of mileage as these cars are very robust. If yours will be a driver not much sense paying a large premium for one with super low mileage as it won't stay that way for long. Condition is key, and some with low mileage can actually be pretty bad. Examine yourself, don't rely on photos. A friend learned that lesson the hard way.

And if you find a car you like don't worry about hearing of a similar car somewhere that sold for less as you'll never know the whole story. Once you've seen a couple or a few you'll start to get an idea of what the market is where you are looking and you can go from there. Highly optioned Vipers haven't always yielded higher used prices which can make them a good buy if that's what you're looking for.

Good luck with your search!

Bruce

[Steve-Indy]

Bruce has given you great direction. And, if you answer camarochevy's question by posting your location, you might be surprised at just how much great help that may become available to you.

Good hunting !!

[darbgnik]

There's much more than just T/A and ACR. Vipers without wings come in:
SRT : base spec
GT : mid spec
GTS : high spec

Bear in mind that both TA1 and TA2 are based on SRT spec, so they have the 6 vent hood, a must have for some. The GTS is highly optioned with real leather, alcantara roof liner, 2 vent hood, and 2 mode suspension among other options. The GT spec splits the difference with a 2 vent hood, real leather seats, and 2 mode suspension.

SRT Vipers can be had for the best price, being they were price leaders when new. GTS Vipers can be had for the best value, as the MSRP was much higher when new, but sell for not much more than an SRT used. 2015 and newer SRT came with what were only options on previous years of back up camera and 12 speaker stereo. All 2015 and newer Vipers came with alcantara on the lower half of the dash. TA1 aero, called advanced aero, could be optioned on all 3, which consisted of carbon lip spoiler and carbon splitter up front.

I could go on, but that's a little more than was mentioned......

[Vipes]

The 1000 rwhp twin turbo GTS for $94k on eBay might be a good deal. I'm not sure what kind of TT kit this is but the 3 most of us know about cost $50k-$60k installed.

[SRT_BluByU]

There's much more than just T/A and ACR. Vipers without wings come in:
SRT : base spec
GT : mid spec
GTS : high spec

Bear in mind that both TA1 and TA2 are based on SRT spec, so they have the 6 vent hood, a must have for some. The GTS is highly optioned with real leather, alcantara roof liner, 2 vent hood, and 2 mode suspension among other options. The GT spec splits the difference with a 2 vent hood, real leather seats, and 2 mode suspension.

SRT Vipers can be had for the best price, being they were price leaders when new. GTS Vipers can be had for the best value, as the MSRP was much higher when new, but sell for not much more than an SRT used. 2015 and newer SRT came with what were only options on previous years of back up camera and 12 speaker stereo. All 2015 and newer Vipers came with alcantara on the lower half of the dash. TA1 aero, called advanced aero, could be optioned on all 3, which consisted of carbon lip spoiler and carbon splitter up front.

I could go on, but that's a little more than was mentioned......

dont forget the GTC cars which have GT on the fender but can be spec’ed as ACRs or TAs.. same interior, leather, springs, sways, brakes, etc..

[ViperJon]

A GTC either TA2.0 or ACR package just sold at auction for $83750. Not sure that it was a Bondurant car. It was all white.

Lol you’re too much Catwood. You always find some busted auction outlier with who knows what background as an example of current prices. As if you’re actually going to get a decent ACR for 83K. Or 93K. Or 103K....can only imagine the story behind an 83K ACR.

[DZnutz]

Lol you’re too much Catwood. You always find some busted auction outlier with who knows what background as an example of current prices. As if you’re actually going to get a decent ACR for 83K. Or 93K. Or 103K....can only imagine the story behind an 83K ACR.

ding ding ding!

[parabs]

All cars have the same powertrain save for the 6th gear ratio in the GT/GTS 15-17’s (I’m not 100% sure that is true).

Speaking of colour, once you determine your favourite colour check this website to get an idea on that colour/stripe availability:

http://www.theviperregistry.com/build_details.php

Depending on your colour preferences you may be very limited in your selection.

As others have said, if possible, look at and have the car inspected prior to purchase. I bought mine w/o seeing it, it turned out to be as described with a couple Easter eggs the dealer didn’t know the car had.

I originally wanted a 2014 TA. After considering the cost differential, planned usage, and especially mods I planned I elected to go with an SRT at about 2/3 the cost of the TA. For me, the two vent hood was a show stopper but notably the GTS cars have depreciated more than the SRT’s and definitely have a nicer interior and more extensive options.

[IHOP]

I would contact your local VOA club and ask if they have a technical person as a club director or member, and if any local cars are for sale. Also ask if there is a recommended dealer or two in your area that has a Viper tech. That would be two or three sources of knowledgeable people to discuss and/or look at a prospective purchase. That would be a confident and convenient way to buy as opposed to chasing cars on the other side of the country. Lots of cars are going to have had issues, some serious, some not, and price would likely be affected either way. Don't be afraid of mileage as these cars are very robust. If yours will be a driver not much sense paying a large premium for one with super low mileage as it won't stay that way for long. Condition is key, and some with low mileage can actually be pretty bad. Examine yourself, don't rely on photos. A friend learned that lesson the hard way.

And if you find a car you like don't worry about hearing of a similar car somewhere that sold for less as you'll never know the whole story. Once you've seen a couple or a few you'll start to get an idea of what the market is where you are looking and you can go from there. Highly optioned Vipers haven't always yielded higher used prices which can make them a good buy if that's what you're looking for.

Good luck with your search!

Bruce

Great info Bruce! The biggest advantage is fellow Viper owners and how willing they are to help out others. Like Bruce said spend some time making some calls and meet with some local members and you will learn some good things.

[Policy Limits]

Some interesting hammer prices at recent Mecum Auction. A seven year old Gen 4 hammered at six figures. Price/value is such a touchy subject with viper owners. Autotrader, cars. Com & dupont registry are great resources for a buyer. Still, those are only listings and a seller can list any price he wants. Those hammer prices though, they don't lie.

[camarochevy1970]

A seven year old Gen 4 hammered at six figures.

That was a 164 mile ACR final edition from a known collection. I wouldn't exactly use that as the bench mark for what the OP is searching for.

[Policy Limits]

Agreed. Especially since he's not looking for a Gen 4. The point is the value of something is what someone is willing to pay for it and that is only quantified by actual sales prices. See: touchy.

[Scott_in_fl]

Viper pricing is all over the place because the car is notorious for being modified and tracked. See Toyota Supra turbo. Same phenomenon. Most are modded and have been driven hard. Find a clean, stock car and you are paying real $$.

[catwood]

Just reporting the facts and really I don't know if it was a TA2.0 or base ACR packaged, but it was a GTC car with the options but it was not an ACR-E That Viper will show up with a clean carfax at some dealer as a single owner car. It won't matter if it was a Bondurant car or not to the seller. I didn't research it much as it didn't hold any interest for me.

[serpent]

That was a 164 mile ACR final edition from a known collection. I wouldn't exactly use that as the bench mark for what the OP is searching for.
While catwood is on the low side of the spectrum this policy limits guy is on the high end. I'm surprised he hasnt made a fake ad for an ACR for 1 million. Seems to be consistently quoting the sky-high ACRs like they are actually going for that price.

[ViperJon]

There are still brand new untitled special editions on dealers lots. Yes, at a premium with ADM but still no where near the silly astronomical prices on eBay and others. If you think anyone is buying them at those prices you're an idiot. Or an idiotic owner who has to constantly massage his ego. Not naming names though.

[Policy Limits]

Here ya. It's as idiotic as stating one would never buy a Gen V because there's no competent service provider on the entire east coast and then going out and buying one. And as idiotic as buying a second one because it's a true ACR unlike the fake contrived GTC ACR. Yet more idiotic would be, wait for it, selling your real ACR for the one contrived as special. Talk about idiotic...

[olebrum]

Stop eating eachother :t0152:
Does anyone know how many TOTAL ACR-E that is produced in 2016 and 2017 included the GTC based models : 1of1, and those GTC models with the sticker saying its a Voodoo2, GTS-R , 1:28, etc.... the biggest difference on this cars are the stickers. ( carbon, colour seatbelt, speakers is different as this could be chosen on order of the car)
For me its seems to be between 500 and 800 ACR-E...
The ACR-E is a Rare car, and will rise in value when owners start`s to destroy their cars on the racetrack.
The only obstacle will be if Viper is reborn again in 2020!
Time will show.

[catwood]

Just reporting the facts and really I don't know if it was a TA2.0 or base ACR packaged, but it was a GTC car with the options but it was not an ACR-E That Viper will show up with a clean carfax at some dealer as a single owner car. It won't matter if it was a Bondurant car or not to the seller. I didn't research it much as it didn't hold any interest for me.

Two more went today on the auction for just a few hundred more. $84.4 was the higher of the two. A Bondurant ACR-E went for ~125K and a GTC-ACRE no sold.

[Bruce H.]

Not sure what the relevance of wholesale auction pricing is when almost nothing is known about the car, the general public can't buy them at that price, and even if they could they wouldn't be able to do their due diligence before purchase. In the absence of all the facts there may appear to be some screaming bargains, and might be some legit bargains, but the end purchaser of these vehicles will end up paying much more after any repairs are made along with dealer markup and so on. Very risky way to buy a Viper I would think.

[Purple Haze]

Some Gen V brand new to low miles non ACRs in the $85-95-110K range....Just look around...

[catwood]

Not sure what the relevance of wholesale auction pricing is when almost nothing is known about the car, the general public can't buy them at that price, and even if they could they wouldn't be able to do their due diligence before purchase. In the absence of all the facts there may appear to be some screaming bargains, and might be some legit bargains, but the end purchaser of these vehicles will end up paying much more after any repairs are made along with dealer markup and so on. Very risky way to buy a Viper I would think.

some can, some can't. but it gives a baseline for folks having to buy from the dealers to see what they really paid for these cars and perhaps know what they are. Some of these are school cars with 11-14K miles on them and will be sold as one owner or factory cars. The next owner will most likely buy it and never know the background.

[ViperDC]

That was a 164 mile ACR final edition from a known collection. I wouldn't exactly use that as the bench mark for what the OP is searching for.

lol convenient details to leave out.

"7 year old gen IV"

[Real Super Snake]

I would contact your local VOA club and ask if they have a technical person as a club director or member, and if any local cars are for sale. Also ask if there is a recommended dealer or two in your area that has a Viper tech. That would be two or three sources of knowledgeable people to discuss and/or look at a prospective purchase. That would be a confident and convenient way to buy as opposed to chasing cars on the other side of the country. Lots of cars are going to have had issues, some serious, some not, and price would likely be affected either way. Don't be afraid of mileage as these cars are very robust. If yours will be a driver not much sense paying a large premium for one with super low mileage as it won't stay that way for long. Condition is key, and some with low mileage can actually be pretty bad. Examine yourself, don't rely on photos. A friend learned that lesson the hard way.

And if you find a car you like don't worry about hearing of a similar car somewhere that sold for less as you'll never know the whole story. Once you've seen a couple or a few you'll start to get an idea of what the market is where you are looking and you can go from there. Highly optioned Vipers haven't always yielded higher used prices which can make them a good buy if that's what you're looking for.

Good luck with your search!

Bruce

Wow thank you so much for the helpful info! I've tried searching on google for the options that were available on the Gen V's but can't find a good source. Obviously the window sticker would be awesome but not everyone has their sticker still. Anywhere I can find that list?

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Bruce has given you great direction. And, if you answer camarochevy's question by posting your location, you might be surprised at just how much great help that may become available to you.

Good hunting !!

I am located in the Mid-Atlantic region.

[Real Super Snake]

The 1000 rwhp twin turbo GTS for $94k on eBay might be a good deal. I'm not sure what kind of TT kit this is but the 3 most of us know about cost $50k-$60k installed.

I'm not a fan of tuned cars. Rather get one bone stock.

[Real Super Snake]

There are still brand new untitled special editions on dealers lots. Yes, at a premium with ADM but still no where near the silly astronomical prices on eBay and others. If you think anyone is buying them at those prices you're an idiot. Or an idiotic owner who has to constantly massage his ego. Not naming names though.

How much are they listed for and where?

[IHOP]

How much are they listed for and where?

cars.com

autotrader.com

dupontregistry.com

[catwood]

so, a $16240 mark up is a good thing?

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=470821640&zip=92127&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D92127%26startYe ar%3D2016%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceASC%26incremental %3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26endYear%3D2017%26modelC odeList%3DVIPER%252CSRTVIPER%26makeCodeList%3DDODG E%252CSRT%26searchRadius%3D0&startYear=2016&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=2017&modelCodeList=VIPER%2CSRTVIPER&makeCodeList=DODGE%2CSRT&searchRadius=0&makeCode1=DODGE&modelCode1=VIPER

[Space Truckin]

so, a $16240 mark up is a good thing?

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=470821640&zip=92127&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D92127%26startYe ar%3D2016%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceASC%26incremental %3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26endYear%3D2017%26modelC odeList%3DVIPER%252CSRTVIPER%26makeCodeList%3DDODG E%252CSRT%26searchRadius%3D0&startYear=2016&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=2017&modelCodeList=VIPER%2CSRTVIPER&makeCodeList=DODGE%2CSRT&searchRadius=0&makeCode1=DODGE&modelCode1=VIPER

What the market will bear...JM2C...I could be wrong :hog:

[IHOP]

so, a $16240 mark up is a good thing?

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=470821640&zip=92127&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D92127%26startYe ar%3D2016%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceASC%26incremental %3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26endYear%3D2017%26modelC odeList%3DVIPER%252CSRTVIPER%26makeCodeList%3DDODG E%252CSRT%26searchRadius%3D0&startYear=2016&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=2017&modelCodeList=VIPER%2CSRTVIPER&makeCodeList=DODGE%2CSRT&searchRadius=0&makeCode1=DODGE&modelCode1=VIPER

Most good deals take some time to find then need to be negotiated. I posted all three sites to start seeing colors, options, mileage and years along with price ranges. But as a lot of us know good deals that go up so sale DON'T last long! So be ready to buy when you know what you want if you see it and the price is fair buy it. You can post up here the model, year, mileage with price and members will give their opinions.

I'm sure members here will allow you to PM or email them to answer any questions or give cliff notes on models and options.

[Bruce H.]

Wow thank you so much for the helpful info! I've tried searching on google for the options that were available on the Gen V's but can't find a good source. Obviously the window sticker would be awesome but not everyone has their sticker still. Anywhere I can find that list?

I am located in the Mid-Atlantic region.

You really need to figure out how you plan to use the car, how new you'd like and what personality you want the car to have. That will help determine the model and then you can move on to figure out if there are some desired options that were available on that model. Here's a quick and dirty overview to help get you started.

The base (well equipped but less frills) Gen V in '13-14 was the "SRT" model. 6 vent hood, manual seats and non-adjustable suspension. There was also an SRT Track Pack version for '13 which upgraded some performance components for road course track use. And there was an SRT with the TA Package which added a little more track performance along with two mode dampers with Street and Race settings, and no other options\. The street setting improves ride quality.

The GTS model ('13 on) is the highest trim level, with 2 mode dampers, lots of leather, electric seats, better stereo, and a 2 vent hood.

The GT model began in 2015 and is basically an SRT with 2 mode dampers and 6 vent hood.

The ACR and ACR-Extreme ('16-17) are very focused track weapons, sacrificing some street manners for all out track performance.

And there's the 1 of 1 program '15-17 that allowed you an infinite choice of options.

Hopefully that's basically correct. All have the same engine and power.

So is luxury or track performance more important to you, or are you somewhere in the middle?

Bruce

[IHOP]

You really need to figure out how you plan to use the car, how new you'd like and what personality you want the car to have. That will help determine the model and then you can move on to figure out if there are some desired options that were available on that model. Here's a quick and dirty overview to help get you started.

The base (well equipped but less frills) Gen V in '13-14 was the "SRT" model. 6 vent hood, manual seats and non-adjustable suspension. There was also an SRT Track Pack version for '13 which upgraded some performance components for road course track use. And there was an SRT with the TA Package which added a little more track performance along with two mode dampers with Street and Race settings, and no other options\. The street setting improves ride quality.

The GTS model ('13 on) is the highest trim level, with 2 mode dampers, lots of leather, electric seats, better stereo, and a 2 vent hood.

The GT model began in 2015 and is basically an SRT with 2 mode dampers and 6 vent hood.

The ACR and ACR-Extreme ('16-17) are very focused track weapons, sacrificing some street manners for all out track performance.

And there's the 1 of 1 program '15-17 that allowed you an infinite choice of options.

Hopefully that's basically correct. All have the same engine and power.

So is luxury or track performance more important to you, or are you somewhere in the middle?

Bruce

Bruce is a perfect example of the types of Members/Owners who are very knowledgable and who are willing to help.

[swexlin]

Agree, Bruce is always helpful, and he gave a lot of good info in that post.

[AZTVR]

A GTC either TA2.0 or ACR package just sold at auction for $83750. Not sure that it was a Bondurant car. It was all white.


Just reporting the facts and really I don't know if it was a TA2.0 or base ACR packaged, but it was a GTC car with the options but it was not an ACR-E That Viper will show up with a clean carfax at some dealer as a single owner car. It won't matter if it was a Bondurant car or not to the seller. I didn't research it much as it didn't hold any interest for me.


Two more went today on the auction for just a few hundred more. $84.4 was the higher of the two. A Bondurant ACR-E went for ~125K and a GTC-ACRE no sold.


Some of these are school cars with 11-14K miles on them and will be sold as one owner or factory cars. The next owner will most likely buy it and never know the background.

I was looking at those white GTCs also. All TA 2.0 options with close VINs and similar miles. The one that you said auctioned about $84k and now listed at $100k by a dealer does have all the signs of being a Bondurant school car on the Carfax, so, I assume they all are and would show up the same on Carfax. However, the general public buyer probably would not recognize it as a driving school car. The clues on the Carfax are that it was a Corporate fleet vehicle and multiple maintenance inspections at Airpark Dodge, Scottsdale in the last year. (Not telling you anything you don't probably know; just putting it out there for others who may be shopping around.)

[Bruce H.]

Thanks guys...great to contribute along with many others here!

[nwa_viper]

I bought mine a few months ago so may represent the market somewhat. Mine is a 2016 SRT in white with no “extra” options. It had 625 miles when purchased and I paid $79,900 for it. There were 4 others in the showroom trying to buy it but I was first at the dealership due to a service writer texting me as soon as they took possession of it.

[Real Super Snake]

You really need to figure out how you plan to use the car, how new you'd like and what personality you want the car to have. That will help determine the model and then you can move on to figure out if there are some desired options that were available on that model. Here's a quick and dirty overview to help get you started.

The base (well equipped but less frills) Gen V in '13-14 was the "SRT" model. 6 vent hood, manual seats and non-adjustable suspension. There was also an SRT Track Pack version for '13 which upgraded some performance components for road course track use. And there was an SRT with the TA Package which added a little more track performance along with two mode dampers with Street and Race settings, and no other options\. The street setting improves ride quality.

The GTS model ('13 on) is the highest trim level, with 2 mode dampers, lots of leather, electric seats, better stereo, and a 2 vent hood.

The GT model began in 2015 and is basically an SRT with 2 mode dampers and 6 vent hood.

The ACR and ACR-Extreme ('16-17) are very focused track weapons, sacrificing some street manners for all out track performance.

And there's the 1 of 1 program '15-17 that allowed you an infinite choice of options.

Hopefully that's basically correct. All have the same engine and power.

So is luxury or track performance more important to you, or are you somewhere in the middle?

Bruce

Less luxury more in the middle to track side. Overall, I'm looking for a good deal so willing to make compromises given the rarity of the cars. Not too picky about color. Perfect car would be GTC with the ACR bits but obviously the owners not really selling those and the ones that are listed are crazy prices.

[Real Super Snake]

I bought mine a few months ago so may represent the market somewhat. Mine is a 2016 SRT in white with no “extra” options. It had 625 miles when purchased and I paid $79,900 for it. There were 4 others in the showroom trying to buy it but I was first at the dealership due to a service writer texting me as soon as they took possession of it.

Wow that's a great deal. In the past few months best I've seen are cars in the 80's with at least 2k miles on them model year 2013, 2014.

[IHOP]

Wow that's a great deal. In the past few months best I've seen are cars in the 80's with at least 2k miles on them model year 2013, 2014.

I wouldn't be afraid to buy out of state either, there are many members here will go look at a car for you then if you are interested you can have a local viper tech inspect the car for you for a small fee. Keep an eye out there on the market they will popup and you need to jump on them. Just like NWA said he beat others to the deal while he was there.

[Terminator02]

Everything has been pointed out but I would just personally stress the emphasis on focus most on what driving experience you want as that really factors in most. It would be pointless to get an amazing deal on the model that isn't for your intended desires for the vehicle. When my wife and I purchased our 2015 Viper GT (The advertised best of both worlds version), I remember after more time in the car that I was a bit let down. I didn't do enough due diligence on my part. I was coming from a 2000 ACR which I loved and which I never understood the complaints some had regarding ride quality, seats and interior. I loved the powerband of the gen 2, the fact the lack of any real insulation made the car "feel" much faster than it was, and the analogue everything. Looking back, I find the seats to be way more comfy than what are in the gen 5. So when a "smoking deal" popped up about my current viper less than a year later that had a known package that I felt would address my concerns I had with the viper I replaced my Gen 2 with...I had to take action. As the car was being vetted on the forum, I already negotiated super trade in price with the dealer, hopped in my 15 black viper GT and headed down to swap the 15 for the 14 OTA (they thought a 15 was better than a 14, that black was better than orange to sell and the orange car they had only had "long tube exhaust"). It had what I wanted out of the car I should have tested much more and researched prior to buying in the beginning. I also agree with doing a national search and planning to travel for the right car. I recently did that for my 17 bimmer x5m which had the the exact options and interior color I wanted which was rare, a good price and I made the trip. I didn't get the "best deal" but I settled for a "good deal" because it was definitely the car I wanted as optioned as I would have ordered myself. Good luck.

Oh yeah, and definitely reach out to the community near you. Prior to a forum member here getting his black 17 TA, he posted here if anyone would show him a viper. I happened to have a TA, was local, met with him, showed it to him answered anything I could, and even later he drove mine prior to taking delivery of his. While we are sometimes a bunch of whining babies, as a community, regarding help; we always have each other's backs. From my experience at least.

[stradman]

Here's what I think is an excellent price for an ACR

http://www.vanhorndodge.com/vehicle-details/used-2017-dodge-viper-acr-1C3BDECZ6HV500106

[ForTehNguyen]

thats the dealer that sells all the buy back vipers?

[serpent]

thats the dealer that sells all the buy back vipers?
It is, I'd be weary about that price.
Ive spoken to them and they are honest, that may or may not be a buyback. Maybe its just a base ACR. I didnt really look. Just know of van horn.

[ViperJon]

I like the part in their ad that says "IF YOU DONT ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS CAR, JUST RETURN IT. NO QUESTIONS ASKED".
In other words they'll buy it back from you....for 10K less than you paid.

[stradman]

thats the dealer that sells all the buy back vipers?

Sorry not familiar with "buybacks". What are those?

[ACRucrazy]

Sorry not familiar with "buybacks". What are those?

Example:

2016 Viper under warranty, blows motor and goes to dealership #1. It takes 3 months to get replaced, customer keeps getting jerked around by local dealer.

Customer calls SRT, starts a case, threatens or gets a lawyer, Dodge buys the car back from the customer. Often for full purchase price, registration, tax etc. Customer is on their way, Dodge owns the car, it now has a marked title, engine eventually gets swapped and dealer #1 says its fixed..

Car then goes to dealer #2 for independent inspection, car gets driven, checked over, driven some more, they say it's A-OK and goes to auction.

Dealer #3 buys the car from auction, marked title because of the "buy back" and sells it at a discount.

That is one of many examples. Or so I am told.

[Vipes]

There have been buybacks for simple issues such as a stereo. These cars are no different physically vs a car that had warranty work done other than the buyback has a lemon title.

[HobokenViper]

Stop eating eachother :t0152:
Does anyone know how many TOTAL ACR-E that is produced in 2016 and 2017 included the GTC based models : 1of1, and those GTC models with the sticker saying its a Voodoo2, GTS-R , 1:28, etc.... the biggest difference on this cars are the stickers. ( carbon, colour seatbelt, speakers is different as this could be chosen on order of the car)
For me its seems to be between 500 and 800 ACR-E...
The ACR-E is a Rare car, and will rise in value when owners start`s to destroy their cars on the racetrack.
The only obstacle will be if Viper is reborn again in 2020!
Time will show.

This is the best post on this thread so far, and I agree with everything stated here 100%!

[AZTVR]

It is, I'd be weary about that price.
Ive spoken to them and they are honest, that may or may not be a buyback. Maybe its just a base ACR. I didnt really look. Just know of van horn.

Yes, for sure, the Autocheck History link that they posted for that car shows it as a Lemon Law/Buyback vehicle.

[HobokenViper]

You really need to figure out how you plan to use the car, how new you'd like and what personality you want the car to have. That will help determine the model and then you can move on to figure out if there are some desired options that were available on that model. Here's a quick and dirty overview to help get you started.

The base (well equipped but less frills) Gen V in '13-14 was the "SRT" model. 6 vent hood, manual seats and non-adjustable suspension. There was also an SRT Track Pack version for '13 which upgraded some performance components for road course track use. And there was an SRT with the TA Package which added a little more track performance along with two mode dampers with Street and Race settings, and no other options\. The street setting improves ride quality.

The GTS model ('13 on) is the highest trim level, with 2 mode dampers, lots of leather, electric seats, better stereo, and a 2 vent hood.

The GT model began in 2015 and is basically an SRT with 2 mode dampers and 6 vent hood.

The ACR and ACR-Extreme ('16-17) are very focused track weapons, sacrificing some street manners for all out track performance.

And there's the 1 of 1 program '15-17 that allowed you an infinite choice of options.

Hopefully that's basically correct. All have the same engine and power.

So is luxury or track performance more important to you, or are you somewhere in the middle?

Bruce

Grateful to have you as a regular contributor on the forum Bruce. You are a wealth of knowledge and very helpful.

[catwood]

Here's what I think is an excellent price for an ACR

http://www.vanhorndodge.com/vehicle-details/used-2017-dodge-viper-acr-1C3BDECZ6HV500106


That's and engine replacement factory buy back that they paid $105K at auction back in early October. $20K mark up is reasonable? friggine new, it was on about 10-11K plus holdback.

Buyer be informed.

[parabs]

GTC ACR base, steel brakes etc 11k miles plus for under 100.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=272940116081&globalID=EBAY-US

Looks like they have a couple Bondurant TA cars as well.

[Bruce H.]

Less luxury more in the middle to track side. Overall, I'm looking for a good deal so willing to make compromises given the rarity of the cars. Not too picky about color. Perfect car would be GTC with the ACR bits but obviously the owners not really selling those and the ones that are listed are crazy prices.

At the risk of sounding biased I would also consider any model with the TA 1.0 or 2.0 Package or Group option (MY '14-17). Not in the same zip code as an ACR on track but faster than just about everything else with equal driver skill level...and that's nothing short of astonishing. What makes it particularly attractive as a track rat is that track capability is combined with a very well rounded package for street use, long distance touring and remarkably low usage of consumables on track. My wife and I will drive and tour multi-day distances to far away tracks, show up with nothing put a helmet and pressure gage, run out front with GT3/GT3RS/Z06/ect all day, and then go home and do a few more track days before touching the car. Meanwhile a Z06 will go through a set of brake pads and tires on Day 1 trying to keep up.

The secret track sauce is the stock TA's higher thermal capacity iron rotors, versatile Corsa tires on light SWII wheels, the TA's more aggressive factory alignment that the tires love, a little extra spring rate, roll bar and aero, and decently supportive and grippy seats. All I improved from there was Castrol brake fluid, a set of 6 pt harnesses and just recently stepped up from stock to Raybestos ST45/43 pads. If you want to improve on that performance you can run a track only tire, more aggressive pads and improve suspension.

Enjoy the hunt for your perfect Viper!


Grateful to have you as a regular contributor on the forum Bruce. You are a wealth of knowledge and very helpful.

Thanks so much! We've got a great group of enthusiasts here that love to learn and share!

[Vegaskid]

Personally I'd get something with at least a few thousand miles since anything that typically goes to shit happens right off.

Look for a H&C package car, no warranty but I'd venture to say the risk of engine failure would be minimized.

Everything everybody else said was on point...prices are all over the place.

Price is what you're willing to pay...good luck.

[BlknBlu]

The GEN V is a phenom in the Viper community as far as pricing. All other Vipers had extremely few choices and the difference between the lowest and highest price MSRP is about 20k(based in GEN). The GEN V has so many car choices and options that the base car is easily 100k less than a loaded ACR -E 1 of 1 with every option. One can not just lump a price out there for what a GEN V is worth and being a new car it has not settled into the marketplace either.

Bruce

[BlueAdder]

The Bondurant TA 2.0 are getting sold for $94K+ which is pretty pricey considering the abuse they took. On auto trader they even have the audacity to say: 1 owner only, and while it's technically true, those cars have been driven (abused) by hundred of people.

[ACRucrazy]

The Bondurant TA 2.0 are getting sold for $94K+ which is pretty pricey considering the abuse they took. On auto trader they even have the audacity to say: 1 owner only, and while it's technically true, those cars have been driven (abused) by hundred of people.

Link for laughs?

[BlueAdder]

Link for laughs?

The Ebay link above's got a couple.

There's this one: https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=470821640&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3FminPrice%3D90000%26st artYear%3D2015%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceDESC%26vehic leStyleCodes%3DCOUPE%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRe cord%3D0%26endYear%3D2018%26modelCodeList%3DVIPER% 252CSRTVIPER%26makeCodeList%3DDODGE%252CSRT%26trim CodeList%3DVIPER%257CGTC&minPrice=90000&startYear=2015&numRecords=25&vehicleStyleCodes=COUPE&firstRecord=0&endYear=2018&modelCodeList=VIPER%2CSRTVIPER&makeCodeList=DODGE%2CSRT&makeCode1=DODGE&modelCode1=VIPER

[ACRucrazy]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2016-Dodge-Viper-2016-DODGE-VIPER-SRT-TA-WHITE-DEMONIC-RED-V10-LEATHER-TOUCHSCREEN/272949988062?epid=217341973&hash=item3f8d164ade:g:qt4AAOSwdx1aFct7&vxp=mtr




2016 DODGE VIPER GTC 1 OF 1

8.4L V10 ENGINE

6-SPEED MANUAL TRANSMISSION

VIPER WHITE CLEAR COAT EXTERIOR

BLACK / DEMONIC RED LEATHER INTERIOR



FACTORY OPTIONS

CUSTOMER PREFERRED PACKAGE 22L

TIME ATTACK GROUP 2.0 $8,700

FULL NAPPA LEATHER SEAT UPGRADE $3,000

SRT HOOD $500

GAS GUZZLER TAX $2,100




ONE OWNER, CLEAN CARFAX

$112,690 ORIGINAL MSRP

WILL NOT LAST, CALL NOW

[Vipes]

There are two 2015’s at dealers 10 mins away from me. Both clean title 1 owner, one black one red, 10k and 14k miles, one is base SRT and the other is a GT. Both $69k, you won’t find a better deal than those two.

[ACRSNK]

There are two 2015’s at dealers 10 mins away from me. Both clean title 1 owner, one black one red, 10k and 14k miles, one is base SRT and the other is a GT. Both $69k, you won’t find a better deal than those two.

That's cheap!

[parabs]

The Bondurant TA 2.0 are getting sold for $94K+ which is pretty pricey considering the abuse they took. On auto trader they even have the audacity to say: 1 owner only, and while it's technically true, those cars have been driven (abused) by hundred of people.

I’d agree but I’d suspect they were maintained extremely well as well...I do wonder how throughout the maintenance documents are that accompany those cars.

[pete.best]

Just to make things more confusing. The majority (units used for the 1 day SRT experience) of the Bondurant cars are not TA 2.0 (package) cars. They are GT models with the TA2 option (group). There is a difference

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u437/petebest1/E4697BC5-2785-44C1-9389-82AA16309BB8_zpswizdbx77.jpg (http://s1067.photobucket.com/user/petebest1/media/E4697BC5-2785-44C1-9389-82AA16309BB8_zpswizdbx77.jpg.html)

[Voice of Reason]

The Ebay link above's got a couple.

There's this one: https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=470821640&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3FminPrice%3D90000%26st artYear%3D2015%26sortBy%3DderivedpriceDESC%26vehic leStyleCodes%3DCOUPE%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRe cord%3D0%26endYear%3D2018%26modelCodeList%3DVIPER% 252CSRTVIPER%26makeCodeList%3DDODGE%252CSRT%26trim CodeList%3DVIPER%257CGTC&minPrice=90000&startYear=2015&numRecords=25&vehicleStyleCodes=COUPE&firstRecord=0&endYear=2018&modelCodeList=VIPER%2CSRTVIPER&makeCodeList=DODGE%2CSRT&makeCode1=DODGE&modelCode1=VIPER

The one wheel pic shows it’s been destroyed from countless tire changes. If this is a $99k car then the rest of us are sitting in a pretty good position.

[SilveRT8]

Just to make things more confusing. The majority (units used for the 1 day SRT experience) of the Bondurant cars are not TA 2.0 (package) cars. They are GT models with the TA2 option (group). There is a difference

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u437/petebest1/E4697BC5-2785-44C1-9389-82AA16309BB8_zpswizdbx77.jpg (http://s1067.photobucket.com/user/petebest1/media/E4697BC5-2785-44C1-9389-82AA16309BB8_zpswizdbx77.jpg.html)

I gave shit to #7 for 3 straight days !!!

[Bruce H.]

I gave shit to #7 for 3 straight days !!!

They take a lick'n and keep on tick'n, lol