Autocross And Skid Pad Day At Lime Rock 2017

[SlateEd]

... let the trash talking begin!

This year our goal is to sell out the event with VOA members and their immediate family only.
No reason we can't - it's clearly the best thing you can do for yourself on August 5.

Full day, Miniature Road Course plus skid pad, beautiful scenery, top notch instruction and safe fun for all generations of Viper.
Normal price for something with less seat time at Lime Rock - $225.

Member's price for our VOA Day $130.

SIGN UP IS NOW OPEN! -- http://www.nyctvoa.org/autox2017.html
VOA members ONLY please. All regions welcome. We hope to sell out the event with maximum benefit to the members. Time to renew? :-)

[thetalonguy]

Wouldn't miss it for the world!

Rumor has it that Chuck will be flying in Dominik Farnbacher to drive his car in the timed trials.

[jeff122886]

hmm, never done autocross before. is this first timer friendly?

[Pist0n]

Absolutely. It's like a mini-track day rather than a typical autocross. It's really safe, tons of runoff, and a great place to explore the limits of your car. My first year out, ACR Steve was a fantastic instructor.

If you -want- a typical autocross, SCCA's NNJ and NER have awesome courses that are typically quite Viper-friendly. (Yes, neither are in New York or Connecticut, but both are a little over the state line) If you are in Connecticut, Fairfield County Sports Car Club has some pretty Viper-friendly courses most of the time especially on their big lot.

[ACR Steve]

as Piston said- totally safe and very friendly for our cars. Great day hanging out with friends with the added bonus of playing on a really fun autocross track

Rumor has it the Wizard has a new autocross car he has been testing under a disguise

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[mcmasad]

Just signed up!

[SlateEd]

Okay so in the first hour we already had 6 sign up. This is not going to last :-)


The List
SlateEd + Courtney
ACR Steve
Big Bill
RyanKing
Mike B.
Tim C.
mcmasad
Pist0n
Ed J.
Dennis B.
Viper Tony
James F.
Pete N.
Boba Fett
TheTalonGuy
Topplayer
Roebear
Rich777
MilkSnake
Eugene
512BB
Bob P.
Dan. L.
Joe O.
Bernie K.
Justin M.
Chris M.
Nick V.
Alicia F.
Eliot M.

[Pist0n]

Signed up!

[99ACR]

I'm in!

[99ACR]

Steve please bring those slicks for Tator!

[00VPRGTS]

Of course I'm in!! Here is a photo of Matt crossing the line last year to save that last 0.01 seconds.

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/attachments/f68/90876d1220897022-crash-mid-ohio-scca-t2-nissan-dsc_0086.jpg

[Boba Fett]

IN!

[ACR Steve]

Great to see everyone sign up so fast :)

THIS WILL SELL OUT sign up everyone. We have a limit on the number of cars so everyone get a lot of time on the course.

Also remember we will be timing to allow everyone a shot to qualify for the end of the year Lime Rock shootout . A free event for the top 20 fastest times of the year to shoot it out for top gun.

http://limerock.com/axis-shoot-out

[thetalonguy]

Of course I'm in!! Here is a photo of Matt crossing the line last year to save that last 0.01 seconds.

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/attachments/f68/90876d1220897022-crash-mid-ohio-scca-t2-nissan-dsc_0086.jpg

LOL!....Any way to cross the finish line, even if you're pointing in the opposite direction.

Signed up! This thing is going to be sold out within days.

[analogmike]

AHH!!! I think I have a big tennis match on the 4th :(

Hope I can make another event there.

Have fun!

p.s. if anyone wants big slicks I have a good slightly used set cheap from my GT3 cup.
May be an issue with ABS (fronts are shorter).

[ACR Steve]

Mike tennis over driving that Beetle on track ????????? ups sorry its a Porsche :)

[Topplayer]

PAID!!!
I AM IN!

Looking forward to this!

[Schen]

I don't have anything scheduled for that day so looks like I might come up to shoot!

--RS

[ACR Steve]

Schen- Amazing will be good to see you my friend . Your pictures are always amazing we will be lucky to have you :)

[analogmike]

Mike tennis over driving that Beetle on track ????????? ups sorry its a Porsche :)

Beetle > Viper ACR @ 2016 LRP finals!!! :)

You racing at Monticello tomorrow? Beetle has a new transmission, lucky I didn't need to shift at the autocross runoffs.

[ACR Steve]

Lol yeh you beat me fare and square :)

Nah I like the track as a test track but not a great race track. I am doing the NJMP race in August though. I love that race . Low key and fun

[jeff122886]

pending i have no further problems after installing my new radiator next tuesday I will be in too

[SlateEd]

pending i have no further problems after installing my new radiator next tuesday I will be in too

Awesome!
Guys that will mean the spots are basically half gone already.... don't wait.

Remember, no helmet required for this. No tech inspection required (although use common sense). We have air for tires, we have coaches to help you learn, we have Steve to chase and Dennis to trample... what could be better?:)

[The_Ruski_Driver]

Hey this sounds cool! Are there any banked turns, bump strips, or straights where you can reach 100+ on this inner course?

[SlateEd]

Hey this sounds cool! Are there any banked turns, bump strips, or straights where you can reach 100+ on this inner course?

Not on the inner course - this is what Skip Barber used for Advanced Car Control clinics for decades. You probably reach 65-ish.
Having said that, there is elevation change, off-camber turns, bump strips in a few spots. The things you develop here unlike anywhere else are hard braking transitioning to sharp turns, modulating your pedals, maybe even a controlled drift here and there if you're a real animal :-) It doesn't sound fast on paper, but it feels FAST.

[ACR Steve]

I have hit the rev limiter in second :) trust me you might as well be doing 160mph it feels fast with the tight turns

[512BB]

Just signed up, hopefully the weather holds and it turns into a fun day.

[SlateEd]

Just signed up, hopefully the weather holds and it turns into a fun day.

Awesome! so glad to see some NJ members checking it out. Weather has been traditionally good for us, but honestly a little wet on track makes it even more fun, and so much to learn either way :-)

[99ACR]

We just have to make sure Tator does not place!!

[pony23]

all signed up and good to go.

[ViperTony]

We just have to make sure Tator does not place!!

There's no stopping Chuck. Game over man, game over!

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[ACR Steve]

Anyone on the fence about the event please sign up before the event sells out . Last year we had a couple of people that waited to last minute and we were already filled up :(

[00VPRGTS]

Are my eyes deceiving me? I don't see Chuck on the attendee list yet?!?

[pony23]

He must be scared. lol.

[ViperTony]

Are my eyes deceiving me? I don't see Chuck on the attendee list yet?!?

Seriously? He's already been sneaking on to the auto-x course late at night practicing. The last minute registration is Chuck playing head games. :)

[SlateEd]

Everyone Remember -- We will have some timed runs using Lime Rock's official system on the short course (bottom half) but most of the day is spent on the FULL course. If you want to time those laps, there are solutions you can use in your own car.

Get the electronics figured out in advance if you're going to use them... at track entry, we're paying attention to traffic and the flag person ONLY.

There are some cool solutions just using a smart phone to get timing and video combined. Harry's Lap timer (app you can download) seems to work pretty well for many people.

[thetalonguy]

What we have below is an accurate representation of what we can expect for Saturday.

ACR Steve will finish the timed run in first, but not so far behind will be #39 (yours truly), followed much further behind by Chuck, Mike and Dennis as accurately represented in the slower red Viper.

[Pist0n]

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Updated 2017Axis list!

[SlateEd]

Updated 2017Axis list!

Good stuff Don! I see our protege is right on your heels :-) (The Focus RS guy in 3rd came to an event Steve and I ran in October last year and had a BLAST)

under 19 is a fast place to start!

[Pist0n]

Good stuff Don! I see our protege is right on your heels :-) (The Focus RS guy in 3rd came to an event Steve and I ran in October last year and had a BLAST)

under 19 is a fast place to start!

Thanks! Yes, John is a really cool guy. We went to the first event of the year together. I hope to see him again soon.

[00VPRGTS]

What we have below is an accurate representation of what we can expect for Saturday.

ACR Steve will finish the timed run in first, but not so far behind will be #39 (yours truly), followed much further behind by Chuck, Mike and Dennis as accurately represented in the slower red Viper.

Slower red viper you say!....game on!

[Schen]

Ed suggested I should hop on in the thread again and explain some useful phone tools I use regularly at track days.

So the most useful one alot of guys use is an app called Harry's Lap Timer. For $20, the grand prix version has some amazing analysis and data for you to look at while watching your session. It includes a ton of track layouts using your GPS to locate the start/finish line to stop recording one lap and starting the next. It's extremely useful when you want upload just your fastest lap (let's face it, no one wants to spend twenty minutes watching yourself stuck behind some slow jabroni in a F430 Challenge cup car because he's too busy recording himself with gopros for the next boring episode of Top Gear Uzbekistan) this app is worth the look and weight in gold! Myself and Ralph can vouch for it.

http://www.gps-laptimer.de/

Secondly, check out Track Addict by HP Tuners. This one I believe is free but features modes for circuit, point-to-point (auto cross), and drag racing. It's not nearly as in depth as Harry's but will get the job done.

Of course I should mention that these apps do require a Bluetooth OBDII dongle that plugs in under your dash. Harry's website has a list of pre-approved and tested dongles that work with their app. A majority of OBDII dongles cost around the $15-30 range.

The other benefit to all this? You can turn your phone into an instant scan tool. Seriously! Got a check engine light? Dashcammond can take care of that and show you what's right and wrong. You can even wipe codes too. It also features monitoring gauges you don't have plopped on your dash in real time. It's pretty cool to see how the cars reacting, temperatures and so on.

Finally what are we missing here? A phone mount! I highly suggest the Ready Action phone mount. It's designed to cradle your phone in the horizontal axis and it was designed by David Donohue! (Yes, 24h of LeMans winning Oreca GTS-R driving Donohue!) It's very sturdy and prevents your video from being lost in focus.

https://www.readyactiongo.com/products/readyaction-suction-cup-mount-with-hinge

That's all for now, I'm going to hit the hay and get ready for one more day of work tomorrow. If anyone has any questions I'll my setup in my car.

--RS

[Boba Fett]

What is starting time tomorrow?

[ViperTony]

I'll be there at the crack of dawn.

[ViperTony]

What is starting time tomorrow?


Arrive between 8:00-8:30am - PARK FOR VIPER MAGAZINE GROUP PHOTO - look for orange and assistance.
Drivers Meeting at 8:45am
Track goes live at 9:15am

[00VPRGTS]

What a great day yesterday. After some more rain it cleared up and dried out nicely. A big thanks to Ed and Courtney for all their hard work and of course their awesome pit crew chief Connor. Also thanks to Steve Katz and Ryan King for their support and instruction. The group posted a lot of great times and we should have a good showing in the top 20.

[ViperTony]

Fun day yesterday, thanks to everyone that set it up. Mike, you crushed it yesterday, nice job!

[thetalonguy]

I think I say this every year, Best Day Ever...Can we do it again next weekend?

Big Thanks to Ed, Courtney, Steve and Ryan. Thank you for all the "behind-the-scenes" work that you put in to make this event so successful, fun and, most importantly, safe!

Great to see everyone and to see everyone improve so much as the day went on.

Great Job everyone; we're going to have some nice Viper representation in the shootout this year. Mike, awesome show on that last run! Gotta have the Gen2 representing in October.

[00VPRGTS]

Thanks Tony and Matt, I was very happy with that last run!

[SlateEd]

Thank everyone for coming out to this... the weather always seems to look favorably on us... went from hail and 90% rain in the forecast to barely a drip after 9am.

ACR Steve - we couldn't do it without your experience! Huge thanks for sharing your talent with this bunch.

Congrats Mike on kicking my ass at the end of the day haha. We both got so close to catching Dennis this year.... oh well, there's always 2018 :-)

Great runs everyone. It's exciting to see everyone really does improve, from the first day to the 5th year!

Pictures coming soon-- Thank you Schen for joining us to capture some of the action also - can't wait to see what you got :-)

[jeff122886]

wish i could have made it :( dropping $3400 on my daily driver for a new motor has set me back on my fun time

[ACR Steve]

Great job everyone. There was some amazing driving going on :)

The weather ended up being perfect and everyone did an amazing job. Its safe to say that our event is the fastest event of the year for Lime Rock Auto X. We have more people in the top 20 and just above then any other group.
Big thank to everyone its a team effort and a ton of fun :)

[SlateEd]

I think I say this every year, Best Day Ever...Can we do it again next weekend?




Actually...... I have been approached by someone outside our club who organizes half-day sessions on the same track. He has invited Viper Owners to check out his group.

The price is more, BUT the seat time should be outrageous - he books 8 cars at a maximum... you could go out there and bang around for a half hour at a time. $400 per car with up to 2 drivers. If we send 2 cars they'll do $350 per car.

His next date is next weekend - Saturday August 12. Please let me know ASAP with an email or post on here if you are interested and I'll get you connected.

[SlateEd]

wish i could have made it :( dropping $3400 on my daily driver for a new motor has set me back on my fun time

Bummer Jeff! Have a great wedding, and put this time of year on your calendar for next year! An early first anniversary gift from your wife :-)

[00VPRGTS]

They updated the standings. We have 9 Vipers currently in the top 20. That is awesome.

http://limerockhistorics.com/Data/spectators/wellsfargosaxstand/2017_AXIS_Standings_-_8.10.17.pdf

[thetalonguy]

Great showing!!!

[ViperTony]

Nice but we'll see how long it lasts. I'm going back in September. Hopefully I'll see some of you on 8/25-26 for the track days!!!!

[ek1]

OK, guys....I have some photos I took at the event.

I'll upload them to my OneDrive and will post a link. Anyone with that link will be able to view and download the pics.

If you _DO_NOT_ want your photos posted, respond by briefly describing your Viper (i.e. Black Gen 2, etc.)

[ek1]

Actually...... I have been approached by someone outside our club who organizes half-day sessions on the same track. He has invited Viper Owners to check out his group.

The price is more, BUT the seat time should be outrageous - he books 8 cars at a maximum... you could go out there and bang around for a half hour at a time. $400 per car with up to 2 drivers. If we send 2 cars they'll do $350 per car.

His next date is next weekend - Saturday August 12. Please let me know ASAP with an email or post on here if you are interested and I'll get you connected.

Ed, can you PM me who the group is? Maybe I'll check them out this fall if they have any events. 8 cars on a track is awesome! Its pretty much like having the track to yourself.

[ek1]

Alright, here is a link: https://1drv.ms/f/s!AjSheBAOAI_Egexw2lgNyJHdWH61oQ

[thetalonguy]

Cool, thanks for taking and loading the pics!

[ViperTony]

OK, guys....I have some photos I took at the event.

I'll upload them to my OneDrive and will post a link. Anyone with that link will be able to view and download the pics.

If you _DO_NOT_ want your photos posted, respond by briefly describing your Viper (i.e. Black Gen 2, etc.)

Damn Eugene how did you find the time between your runs to take those great shots? Well done and thanks for posting them!

[pony23]

Great photos, thanks. I never even noticed the camera being out.

[ACR Steve]

"Damn Eugene how did you find the time between your runs to take those great shots"

Somehow it wasn't only between runs he has shots of himself during his runs :)


Great pics

[thetalonguy]

Standings have been updated through Sept 8th. Looks like we're still holding pretty strong with 8 Vipers in top 20.

http://limerockhistorics.com/Data/spectators/wellsfargosaxstand/2017_AXIS_Standings_v9817.pdf

[ACR Steve]

Nice there are still more days to qualify ...... lets get even more Vipers :)

[SlateEd]

I'm about to get bumped.... better get an alignment in my car, or maybe just go back with the Focus haha

[ViperTony]

I went to Limerock's open autocross day today, helluva a lot of fun as always. I finally destroyed my front tires, surprised they lasted this long but I was able to pull off an 18.89 even I was sliding all over the place. My right front developed a leak, lol. The top 20 cut-off time stands at 19.30 right now. I believe there's one more open lapping day coming up followed by the shootout on 10/28.

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[00VPRGTS]

I went to Limerock's open autocross day today, helluva a lot of fun as always. I finally destroyed my front tires, surprised they lasted this long but I was able to pull off an 18.89 even I was sliding all over the place. My right front developed a leak, lol. The top 20 cut-off time stands at 19.30 right now. I believe there's one more open lapping day coming up followed by the shootout on 10/28.

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Almost got me.👍...better get some tires before the 28th. They are inviting the top 30 and you have to run to make it into the top 20 shootout.

[ViperTony]

Almost got me....better get some tires before the 28th. They are inviting the top 30 and you have to run to make it into the top 20 shootout.

Tires ordered. The open autocross days have been sold out. Lots of drivers this year, it will be a blast. Looking forward to what record Steve will beat this year.

[thetalonguy]

The 2017 standings have been finalized and it looks like we have 7 Vipers in the top 30; 6 in the top 20! Lol, I made 30 by the skin of my teeth, beating 31 by .01 on my 2nd best lap.

I've signed up for Saturday, so I hope to see you other 6 there! Weather is looking good for Saturday!


http://limerock.com/axis-shoot-out
http://limerockhistorics.com/Data/spectators/wellsfargosaxstand/2017_AXIS_Standings_V10252017_-_pre-AxIS.pdf

[City]

Ed's out!? He's the region president for God sake! That's not right.

[ek1]

Nice! I'm still #6!

[00VPRGTS]

I'm in, see you Saturday!

[ViperTony]

I'm in, see you Saturday!

Oh crap I almost forgot about it, LOL, gotta change the oil tomorrow! Weather looks good for Saturday, should be a blast.

[SlateEd]

Ed's out!? He's the region president for God sake! That's not right.

'those who can't do, teach' rears it's ugly head once again.
...either that or 4 year old tires and no alignment

[ACR Steve]

Ed- those days are gone my friend just wait till next year and the new beast . I have a feeling we will all be chasing you. Its amazing what you did with essentially the Flinstone mobile tires.

[Red venom]

Good luck tomorrow! My money is on #39!

[SlateEd]

Ed- those days are gone my friend just wait till next year and the new beast . I have a feeling we will all be chasing you. Its amazing what you did with essentially the Flinstone mobile tires.

Haha thanks Steve. I probably shouldn't take a passenger out for the timed runs either, huh?

Seriously though, Everyone did really well and I'm so glad you and I have pushed this event for the group the last 5 years. It's amazing how the overall level of driving has improved and people are enjoying aspects of the Viper they never thought they could get near. Cheers dude!

...Now I don't like in-fighting among club members, but you have to kick Mike's ass so there is a Viper on top of the list :-)

[00VPRGTS]

What a day! Beautiful weather and racing. Congrats to Steve and Don for their first and second finish in the street class. It was difficult driving the full course in reverse. I can't wait till next year, need to tweak some things to get a little faster.

[ViperTony]

What a day! Beautiful weather and racing. Congrats to Steve and Don for their first and second finish in the street class. It was difficult driving the full course in reverse. I can't wait till next year, need to tweak some things to get a little faster.

We need Ed to add driving the full course in reverse to next years' autocross day. That was tough, fun but frustrating. Congrats to Steve and Don. I knew Don was going to finish strong, he was laser focused yesterday. :)

[Pist0n]

We need Ed to add driving the full course in reverse to next years' autocross day. That was tough, fun but frustrating. Congrats to Steve and Don. I knew Don was going to finish strong, he was laser focused yesterday. :)

Thanks guys! Yesterday was the perfect day for it too. Everyone drove really well, and yes, we definitely need to add some of the other configurations to the AutoX day next year so we can can be prepared for anything they throw at us. We can have an even bigger viper showing next year.

[ViperTony]

I forgot to add that if you've never rode with Steve in his ACR, you must do it, make it a bucket list event in your life. Steve is an absolute bully on the track. Love riding with him and have him ride with you if you want to learn more. Definitely worth it.

[00VPRGTS]

For those who want to see the raw results.

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Tony, you got me by .04 secs! Now I see the benefit of the Gen V. 😜 I kid, nice driving.

[ViperTony]

Tony, you got me by .04 secs! Now I see the benefit of the Gen V.  I kid, nice driving.

Mike, I was all over the place on that first run and took out a bunch of cones on the second, lol, it was ugly. Definitely need to be ready for anything next year.

[pony23]

Awesome job guys!!!!

[SlateEd]

Great Job guys!

I like the idea of trying the run backwards in our own event next year. Maybe right around lunch time we switch it up.... quick lead-follow laps with Steve and Ryan and give it a shot. We'll get sponsorship from prefix for all the touch-up paint we need for under the front fascias.

[ACR Steve]

What a great day and an amazing showing for our Vipers and the NY/CT Viper Club.
More Vipers then any other car in top 30 and top 20
More members in top 20 and top 30 then any other car club

You guys were amazing . Very impressive that we have such great driving talent in what is relatively a very small club. The Top 20 qualifying times were just over 1 second dividing all of them. Everyone was under 19 seconds. This was the fastest top 20 ever.

It was very difficult to try and figure out the reverse course lines in the 3 practice laps. Next year we will be ready for anything.

Cant wait till next year :)

[ViperTony]

We'll get sponsorship from prefix for all the touch-up paint we need for under the front fascias.

LOL and replacement splitters. That being said, the ACR splitters can take a lot of abuse. Just sayin'. :)

[mackzilla]

I'm going to need to join you guys next year.

[SlateEd]

I'm going to need to join you guys next year.

Absolutely!! all VOA regions are welcome - come on over!!

[thetalonguy]

Congrats guys!!! Way to represent team Viper! Wish I could have saw you guys compete in the reverse course in the afternoon. Very impressive.

I think we need to add a 2nd Viper AutoX day to the schedule next year. You guys would all probably running 17's in the '18 ShootOut :-)

[SlateEd]

I think we need to add a 2nd Viper AutoX day to the schedule next year. You guys would all probably running 17's in the '18 ShootOut :-)

...funny you should say that....

I might be working on something with Ryan M. at the moment....

[ViperTony]

...funny you should say that....

I might be working on something with Ryan M. at the moment....

Just do it, don't worry about what CPA Mike says. Do it and never look back.