What clutch and short shifter are you guys running

[Anton28]

Im not happy with the factory set up and want to see what everyone else has upgraded too. I ran the BBG dual disc in my prior gen3 and loved everything about it, but its pricey. I justified the cost last time because It was going on a fully built motor, supercharged 1000hp beast.

I spoke with Dan about a Mcleod clutch and EMCO short shifter set up which seems like a good choice....

[Jet Slicker]

Almost everybody seems to say the stock shifter is perfect. I don't think anybody really upgrades since it is already so short, crisp, and tight/stiff. Most recommendations are just to leave it alone. As far as clutch goes, for up to stage 2 power level it seems like the stock clutch is great for almost every situation. Very smooth and easy to drive. So it really depends on what you're looking to get out of a new clutch since the stock one seems to do everything. But you didn't quite mention what you're not happy with, so i'm not sure where to go with advice

[ForTehNguyen]

dont need short shifter in this car, i changed out the shift knob because I dont like the stock baseball and its a little lower also

[KB Viper]

i'm running the nth triple carbon and it's perfect. doesn't chatter, has progressive release, and has same firmness as stock.

[Jack B]

We have to be careful about praising the the oem clutch too much. It does a good job until you try drag racing and add slicks, that is where it does not grade well. The BBG also has issues in the same scenario. I have about a 1000 miles on the Nth Moto, the description above is spot on, it will see action with slicks next week, that will be a better test.

[stradman]

Well under heavy track use at least, the oem shifter is bang on and no problems with the clutch either imo.

[Jet Slicker]

We have to be careful about praising the the oem clutch too much. It does a good job until you try drag racing and add slicks, that is where it does not grade well. The BBG also has issues in the same scenario. I have about a 1000 miles on the Nth Moto, the description above is spot on, it will see action with slicks next week, that will be a better test.

Right. When I say the stock clutch is good for almost every situation, I mean that drag racing with slicks seems to be the only downfall I've heard of.

[Nth Moto]

Kris and Jack, thanks for your reviews on the Nth Moto triple carbon. An added bonus is that the clutch has been thoroughly tested at torque levels around 1300 ft/lb without fail or wearing the friction material out. The longevity is incredible.

A word on the stock clutch so people are aware; continued high RPM fast (nevermind power shifting/WOT shifting) WILL wear out the transmission synchronizer parts, it's only a matter of time. The OEM clutch design is a great piece to appeal to the masses on several aspects, but it's release characteristics will make the transmission work harder than it has to when driven hard.

[Anton28]

Had two of my friends who both have gen 5s drive my car over the weekend and both confirmed something is off with my clutch which is making the shifter feel notchy. Im taking it in to the dealer in the morning to see if they can check it out.

Clutch pedal feels heavier then normal and the clutch doesn't engage very well under load, meaning I'm having an issue getting in to second and third gears. Under normal driving conditions shifting is OK but it still feels notchy but under-load its not right.

Will report back.....

[Anton28]

Kris and Jack, thanks for your reviews on the Nth Moto triple carbon. An added bonus is that the clutch has been thoroughly tested at torque levels around 1300 ft/lb without fail or wearing the friction material out. The longevity is incredible.

A word on the stock clutch so people are aware; continued high RPM fast (nevermind power shifting/WOT shifting) WILL wear out the transmission synchronizer parts, it's only a matter of time. The OEM clutch design is a great piece to appeal to the masses on several aspects, but it's release characteristics will make the transmission work harder than it has to when driven hard.

Hmmmm i wonder if this is whats happening to my car......

[1.8t]

Nth Moto triple carbon here. It's amazing.

[Jack B]

When they remove the oem clutch, look at the construction. There is a captive/floating plate that is strapped to the clutch body. With this design the disk(s) clearance to the plate and flywheel is minimal. Anything that alters that clearance can cause the clutch to hang and make the trans hard to shift. If you get a chance, look closely at the straps that hold the floating plate to the clutch body, they are not totally parallel to the plate, this can take up some of that valuable clearance the disks need to make the trans shift smoothly. This distortion of the straps can be exacerbated by hard down shifting.

On the other hand, the oem clutch works as well as some aftermarket clutches, that comment does not include the the Nth Moto clutch.




Had two of my friends who both have gen 5s drive my car over the weekend and both confirmed something is off with my clutch which is making the shifter feel notchy. Im taking it in to the dealer in the morning to see if they can check it out.

Clutch pedal feels heavier then normal and the clutch doesn't engage very well under load, meaning I'm having an issue getting in to second and third gears. Under normal driving conditions shifting is OK but it still feels notchy but under-load its not right.

Will report back.....

[stradman]

A word on the stock clutch so people are aware; continued high RPM fast (nevermind power shifting/WOT shifting) WILL wear out the transmission synchronizer parts, it's only a matter of time. The OEM clutch design is a great piece to appeal to the masses on several aspects, but it's release characteristics will make the transmission work harder than it has to when driven hard.
Of course everything wears out in time right? The question is when but I don't think it will be within 5-10k miles at least...

[Jack B]

Of course everything wears out in time right? The question is when but I don't think it will be within 5-10k miles at least...

It is not only what wears out, if the clutch fights the synchro's your shifts are not consistent. I do not have the data with me , but, the weight of the oem clutch components on the shaft is close 3 times greater than the Nth Moto, this is one of the reasons for the twin disk design, lowering the rotating weight on the shaft. An example, a G2 disk (single design) might be double the weight of the current oem twin disk. Plus the center mass was much closer to the outside diameter, which keeps the trans shaft rotating longer, therefore, fighting the synchro's.

From an engineering design point, the Nth Moto clutch is unique when compared to other multi-disk dssigns. In fact, it is far different than their original design. The real test will be how everyone feels about the Nth Moto clutch after a year of use. Right now, most seem to love it.

[Nth Moto]

Of course everything wears out in time right? The question is when but I don't think it will be within 5-10k miles at least...

Yes, of course on things wearing out in time. But there are members on this board with nearly OEM cars with less than the mileage you're referencing that have had several transmissions replaced due to this exact reason. To be clear, I'm in no way stating everyone needs to run out and change their clutch - but those that WOT shift, or even just repeatedly shift fast at high RPM with the factory clutch are doing damage to the transmission.

[v10tt]

All stock, best shiftting car I've had, shifts like butter, Can't miss a gear even if I'm not focused.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScKBZKZ1oUg

[Anton28]

All informative information guys! Car is going to the dealer this week to get my OEM set up checked out. Ill start my Nth clutch research today. :)

[Anton28]

Well my clutch problems have gotten worse. Now during spirited driving I cant get it in to 3rd or 4th gear. I have to almost force it in or give it a good amount of time with the clutch pedal down to the floor. Nothing is grinding our sounding abnormal, i just cant get it in to gear with easy.

Drove my friends ACR again and boy does his clutch feel so light and shifting is so smooth. Ive never felt this since i got the car about a month ago. I just learned that the transmission was replaced late last year due to 3rd synchro going out. I'm wondering if they replaced the clutch as well....going to call them and find out.

My dealer appointment is next Monday so we will see what they say.

[LmeaViper]

Im not happy with the factory set up and want to see what everyone else has upgraded too. I ran the BBG dual disc in my prior gen3 and loved everything about it, but its pricey. I justified the cost last time because It was going on a fully built motor, supercharged 1000hp beast.

I spoke with Dan about a Mcleod clutch and EMCO short shifter set up which seems like a good choice....

Sounds like your unhappiness is account you have an issue with your clutch and/or tranny and not necessarily that the stock OEM is lacking in some way. I came from an 04 Cobra and I absolutely love the stock clutch and shifter...it's excellent IMO.
Hope you get your issues sorted out and you start enjoying your car again.

[AZTVR]

I spoke with Dan about a Mcleod clutch and EMCO short shifter set up which seems like a good choice.... EMCO short shifter? I thought that they made a sequential gear box? Perhaps you are referring to the IPSCO shifter?