TA 1 0 or TA 2 0

[imagine]

Who prefers which?

[Bruce H.]

Curious why you care?

[ACRSNK]

1.0

[apeas2]

I have a 2.0 being built right now. To me, looks better and a Lil more downforce. Definitely more rare too.

[Topplayer]

I like the 1.0 much more in the street, on track its not a question 2.0 (having drivin both on and off track the 2.0 SHINES)

[7TH_SIGN]

1.0. I just always liked the over all look better. If I wanted a larger wing I'd go with an ACR.

[ViperSRT]

TA 2.0. In my humble opinion it is the best mix of street driveability/comfort and track capabilities.

[Terminator02]

Who prefers which?

Get what you prefer.

[BlknBlu]

wating for the 3.0

Bruce

[ACR08]

If you are going to track the car, without question get the 2.0. I was very impressed how good the car looks in person. The wing isn't over done and blends in nice with the car. I agree the 2.0 is a nice blend of street and track. If you aren't going to track the car and don't like the look of a wing, then go the 1.0 it's still more car than most of us are ever going to need. Either way it's a Viper so you still won.

[Bill Pemberton]

Willie Da P kind of prefers the TA 2.0, whereas Markee Jorgensen loves the TA 1.0.

As Brucee H mentions , " Why do you care? " I think it is just that it is the weekend, everyone is mellow and just wants to chat about unimportant Machinehead thoughts, and chill . You may have all noticed no animals were killed in the use of this conversation --but a bunch of us plan on eating them later this evening.

Heh, it is Cinco De Mayo celebration weekend , so consume mass quantities and spread the love to all your fellow Viperholics!!

[donk_316]

1.0 is the Viper that sold me on the G5. Perfect lines.

[Vipes]

1.0

[Dman]

Both, but 2.0 edges out for me on track and rarity. But yea, both.

[Voice of Reason]

I'm surprised the voting is this close (16 v 13 as of this post, 1.0 ahead). With so few 2.0s in the wild and from past threads I thought it would be 4:1 in the 1.0's favor.

[slitherv10]

Curious why you care?


Willie Da P kind of prefers the TA 2.0, whereas Markee Jorgensen loves the TA 1.0.

As Brucee H mentions , " Why do you care? " I think it is just that it is the weekend, everyone is mellow and just wants to chat about unimportant Machinehead thoughts, and chill . You may have all noticed no animals were killed in the use of this conversation --but a bunch of us plan on eating them later this evening.

Heh, it is Cinco De Mayo celebration weekend , so consume mass quantities and spread the love to all your fellow Viperholics!!

Why do you mind that he cares? I'm guessing its called, conversation. If you were to look back at thousands of questions asked on this and other Viper forums you would ask the same question to 70% of them.

Its because he can.

[ViperSRT]

At least no one is asking what the future values will be. It will never leave my hands as long as I can grab the wheel so that is a completely unimportant question to me. All of those with the means to purchase any of the models already voted with their pocket book.

[1.8t]

1.0. I just always liked the over all look better. If I wanted a larger wing I'd go with an ACR.

Bingo

[Special Ed]

TA 2. I feel that it is the best of both worlds. A fantastic street machine and an outstanding track car and rare to boot. Someone else can confirm but I believe that there are only 30 to 40 in existence?

[LuvSpeed]

^^^ Your competition blue is one beautiful color! I have a 1.0 and love it. My wife drives the Viper as much as I do and really digs it. She does not like the wing of the 2.0. So, depending on if you want your wife drive your car, that could influence your decision.

[serpent]

what happened to zybane, that was one of 3 guys on this board that has a 2.0. lol, everybody else has a TA 1

[imagine]

Bias here w/ a 1.0. Had seen various SRTs at the time and thought they looked great, but when I saw the orange TA randomly online - it was over, haha. Not a particular fan of the 2.0 rear wing, but do like the canards up front.

[IndyRon]

1.0. The 2.0 looks like an ACR without the capability. The wing looks too small/narrow on the 2.0. I think ACR is preferable to both but that wasn't the question.

[Track Pack]

2.0 in my opinion, all the performance of the 1.0 + more aero, while keeping the 2 mode suspension (street/track) and some other comforts not offered on the ACR if looking from true street / track with limited track. I'm building my GTC 2.0 pkg for the increased performance and appearance of the added aero (front dive planes and rear wing) along with fewer of them out there, but also really appreciate the 1.0. Can't go wrong... The ACR was just too over the top for me for my personal use but is tempting to have the absolute king of the hill, even if you aren't going to fully use it....

[zee]

Bias here w/ a 1.0. Had seen various SRTs at the time and thought they looked great, but when I saw the orange TA randomly online - it was over, haha. Not a particular fan of the 2.0 rear wing, but do like the canards up front.

The orange TA got me too - love at first sight

[ACRucrazy]

1.0. The 2.0 looks like an ACR without the capability. The wing looks too small/narrow on the 2.0. I think ACR is preferable to both but that wasn't the question.

Exactly my thoughts.

[Track Pack]

Although smaller than the ACR wing, I don't think the 2.0 wing is small at all....25360

[IndyRon]

Although smaller than the ACR wing, I don't think the 2.0 wing is small at all....25360

In that picture it doesn't reflect accurately due to the fact that the wing is in the foreground. Take that same pic from 60 feet back zoomed in and you'll see what I mean. You are seeing image distortion/parallax error when you take a picture of an object that is multiple times larger than the distance the camera is from the object. Below is what it really looks like. It's 5" shy of the outer fenders on both sides.

#aestheticwings
http://cdn-ds.com/stock/4662-1C3ADEAZ2FV510255-2015-Dodge-SRT-Viper/sz_72562/o_610/ov_1/w_740/h_480/zc_4:3/1C3ADEAZ2FV510255_8cde6940078ef757.jpg

#nofoksgivencuzimabadmofo
http://media.caranddriver.com/images/15q3/660572/2016-dodge-viper-acr-first-drive-review-car-and-driver-photo-660776-s-429x262.jpg

[ViperSRT]

How did this turn into another "ACR is the one and only" thread? Next up you will be talking future values. No question the ACR is bigger and badder. But better is in the eye of the beholder, and those interested in a TA have different tastes, and maybe kidneys than the ACR set. That does not mean inferior, no matter how many times it is repeated.

[IndyRon]

How did this turn into another "ACR is the one and only" thread? Next up you will be talking future values. No question the ACR is bigger and badder. But better is in the eye of the beholder, and those interested in a TA have different tastes, and maybe kidneys than the ACR set. That does not mean inferior, no matter how many times it is repeated.

I think posting 1 pic of an ACR wing as comparison to the TA2 wing is hardly an ACR derail. Either way, I don't own a G5 anything. OP asked an opinion and we are each sharing our opinions. You bought a TA2 and you like it...good, thats all that matters. I don't give a $hit about future values, I drive my car and race it. Go talk to the guy with the Captain America ACR-E, he likes to talk about that stuff.

[zee]

The gap widens...I was surprised it was that close for a while

[ACRSNK]

How did this turn into another "ACR is the one and only" thread? Next up you will be talking future values. No question the ACR is bigger and badder. But better is in the eye of the beholder, and those interested in a TA have different tastes, and maybe kidneys than the ACR set. That does not mean inferior, no matter how many times it is repeated.

I don't see this turning into an ACR thread at all. Just people sharing their opinions on TA 1.0's vs. 2.0's. Seems to be staying on topic just fine. Enjoy what you have and don't worry about anyone else's opinion.

[ViperSRT]

Good to hear that it isn't transitioning as I was starting to think. Enough of those threads already. Or a my wing is bigger than your wing. Lest the Suburu WRX and other mega wing people start chiming in.

[Bruce H.]

The gap widens...I was surprised it was that close for a while

Let's suppose for just a moment that it's possible that TA owners are a teeny-weeny bit biased towards the model they already own and love. That would skew the results heavily in favor of the TA 1.0 since that was the only version for TA buyers when the car was introduced and most were sold.

If MY15-17 TA 2.0 buyers had a choice and equal opportunity to purchase either version then they voted first with their wallet which makes them pretty unbiased. So if we were to eliminate votes from all those who own or had owned a 2014 TA I wonder how the preference results would look from those who had or have a choice between the two? Do we have total sales of each version from '15-17 to see actual buyer preferences as opposed to the general membership?

I haven't voted because I prefer the TA 2.0 for its aero advantage on track and the TA 1.0 for it's styling. Since I already owned a '14 TA I made the decision to let my advantage on track be from mad skills :)

[Voice of Reason]

...If MY15-17 TA 2.0 buyers had a choice and equal opportunity to purchase either version then they voted first with their wallet which makes them pretty unbiased. So if we were to eliminate votes from all those who own or had owned a 2014 TA I wonder how the preference results would look from those who had or have a choice between the two? Do we have total sales of each version from '15-17 to see actual buyer preferences as opposed to the general membership?

I haven't voted because I prefer the TA 2.0 for its aero advantage on track and the TA 1.0 for it's styling. Since I already owned a '14 TA I made the decision to let my advantage on track be from mad skills :)

I don't think you can look at only MY15-17 sales to see which is more preferred because there was already up to 159 14 TA buyers who would have picked the same even if the 2.0 was available. I'm one of those people and personally if only the 2.0 had come out I would not have traded my 13 for it.

[Bill Pemberton]

These polls are always , fun, but we all know they are far from scientific. The situation that the TA 1.0 came out initially and there were 159 made, plus 10 Anodized Carbon Models ( said to be TAs , but since custom interior, they were actually the first TA 1.0 Option groups ) , along with probably 5-10 other cars that few are aware of done with the TA 1.0 Option Group in 2014, so you have in essence maybe 179 folks that have acquired a TA 1.0 of one sort of another . Put the TA 2.0 out there and very few were made in 2015 because Dodge would not let a Dealer order one unless presold, hence there are not a lot of them initially out there. Surprisingly, and again not really scientific , but we ordered quite a few TA 2.0 Option Groups for folks in 2016 and 2017 , who wanted the wing , but also wanted to customize the car. These cars were all custom ordered and unlike the Advanced Aerodynamic Package ( which looks to the untrained eye like a TA 1.0 set -up ) , you could only get the 2.0 wing if you got the TA Option group -- it was not a separate option like the Aerodynamic Package.

So overall I think the numbers , imho, are quite realistic for an uncontrolled poll, as there are a lot more folks who would likely vote for the 1.0 look, since there are a lot more out there. The cool part is both sides seem to be passionate, and that holds big plusses for both sides. Common sense holds sway for the 1.0 , being the original, along with the set build of cars , as opposed to required sold orders for TA 2.0s.

Positive proof was shown from 2015 on , as sales of TA 1.0s fell also since they had to be presold. Overall ,the passion for these machines , will likely bear fruit for the owners of both models, since in the grand scheme of things they will be rarer than the ACRs and at a lower price point.

Keep up the enthusiasm , regardless of whether you have a TA 1.0, 2.0 or either of the Option Groups, since perception builds value in the automotive world.

[Bruce H.]

I don't think you can look at only MY15-17 sales to see which is more preferred because there was already up to 159 14 TA buyers who would have picked the same even if the 2.0 was available. I'm one of those people and personally if only the 2.0 had come out I would not have traded my 13 for it.

Hmm...good point!

[TA Two Oh]

These polls are always , fun, but we all know they are far from scientific. The situation that the TA 1.0 came out initially and there were 159 made, plus 10 Anodized Carbon Models ( said to be TAs , but since custom interior, they were actually the first TA 1.0 Option groups ) , along with probably 5-10 other cars that few are aware of done with the TA 1.0 Option Group in 2014, so you have in essence maybe 179 folks that have acquired a TA 1.0 of one sort of another . Put the TA 2.0 out there and very few were made in 2015 because Dodge would not let a Dealer order one unless presold, hence there are not a lot of them initially out there. Surprisingly, and again not really scientific , but we ordered quite a few TA 2.0 Option Groups for folks in 2016 and 2017 , who wanted the wing , but also wanted to customize the car. These cars were all custom ordered and unlike the Advanced Aerodynamic Package ( which looks to the untrained eye like a TA 1.0 set -up ) , you could only get the 2.0 wing if you got the TA Option group -- it was not a separate option like the Aerodynamic Package.

So overall I think the numbers , imho, are quite realistic for an uncontrolled poll, as there are a lot more folks who would likely vote for the 1.0 look, since there are a lot more out there. The cool part is both sides seem to be passionate, and that holds big plusses for both sides. Common sense holds sway for the 1.0 , being the original, along with the set build of cars , as opposed to required sold orders for TA 2.0s.

Positive proof was shown from 2015 on , as sales of TA 1.0s fell also since they had to be presold. Overall ,the passion for these machines , will likely bear fruit for the owners of both models, since in the grand scheme of things they will be rarer than the ACRs and at a lower price point.

Keep up the enthusiasm , regardless of whether you have a TA 1.0, 2.0 or either of the Option Groups, since perception builds value in the automotive world.

Nailed it! Well said, Bill

[imagine]

The gap widens...I was surprised it was that close for a while

The plot thickens! 65/35! :t15197:

[Trainerdave]

I am not a fan of big wings on any car, but I don't take my car road racing , I'm a 1/4 , and highway run guy, my TA for me is the perfect balance of looks, performance and everyday driving for me.

[ViperSRT]

Positive proof was shown from 2015 on , as sales of TA 1.0s fell also since they had to be presold. Overall ,the passion for these machines , will likely bear fruit for the owners of both models, since in the grand scheme of things they will be rarer than the ACRs and at a lower price point.

Not 100% on the lower price point. With options a TA (or other model) can exceed the price of an ACR quite easily. Other than that Bill is spot on as he always is.

[Bill Pemberton]

True, it was a generalized statement and we did have a gentleman do a very custom TA 2.0 Option Group that exceeded 150K. Most of the custom ones we have done , or of course the standard TA 1.0 or TA 2.0 models have been a bunch less , though.

[Cybermig]

I prefer the 2.0.

I had a GTS w/ the 14' 1.0 TA group package and it drove great but being that it was my 1st Viper, I didn't have a point of reference. After getting the 2.0 I prefer how it drives particularly on the track and at high highway speeds. The 2.0 feels more planted (downforce you can feel) and the suspension tune feels more refined at all speeds. I personally like the extra aero bits of the 2.0 over the more modest 1.0 bits. My first time out in the 2.0 at Homestead Motor Speedway, my lap times dropped 5 seconds going from the 1.0 to 2.0 simply because the limits of the 2.0 can be pushed harder due in part to the extra downforce and better turn-in.

[Terminator02]

I prefer the 2.0.

I had a GTS w/ the 14' 1.0 TA group package and it drove great but being that it was my 1st Viper, I didn't have a point of reference. After getting the 2.0 I prefer how it drives particularly on the track and at high highway speeds. The 2.0 feels more planted (downforce you can feel) and the suspension tune feels more refined at all speeds. I personally like the extra aero bits of the 2.0 over the more modest 1.0 bits. My first time out in the 2.0 at Homestead Motor Speedway, my lap times dropped 5 seconds going from the 1.0 to 2.0 simply because the limits of the 2.0 can be pushed harder due in part to the extra downforce and better turn-in.

Not really sure how you notice better highway driving. Unless you had a full TA 1.0 car, your gts didn't come with the refined suspension and different brakes like a TA 1.0. So mentioning how you like the 2.0 to a 1.0 while including brakes, suspension etc is confusing unless you had a true TA but it doesn't appear that way as it's a gts with TA cf which was popular. Both cars have much similarity and you have to be truly pushing the car to a different limit as tires are the same and the only real tangible difference I can assume from a true 1.0 to 2.0 is the wing and 5 seconds the the difference in df doesn't make sense to me but perhaps I'm overlooking something. I'd say it's mostly due to increased confidence, more practice and goiing from gts to TA suspension, tires and brakes.

To the OP. Honestly this type of thread is popular like threads on gun forums 45 vs 9mm as whats the best calibre. Truly impossible to answer because it comes down to preference. Do you want the bigger hole with less rounds or more time and accuracy on target? A crappy shot with a 9mm will lose to an ace 45 every day. People look for gun limitations when it's the owner who will likely never shoot 90% of it's ability. Same with vipers.

1. Any viper is a great and reliable "weapon." Best bang for the buck is probably an SRT with track pack if budget is an issue and therefore is best.

2. Truly analyze how often you track and account for it's costs. If tracking is 1 then definitely go ACRE if possible and if it's out of range a TA 2.0 is likely better than a 1.0 for tracking.

3. If you street cruise with occasional 3-5x yearly tracking and or some 1/4 or 1/2 mile events than a TA 1.0 is probably the best option followed by gts, gtc ect.

4. Styling is subjective but if it's important for you it is hard to objectively argue against the 1.0 cars or optioned cars as the CF just flows beautifully with the lines of the car.

Again OP, any viper is likely more capable than what you will be able to do with it. Just like with my gun examples, an ace in an s2000 or miata will humble a brand new green racer pulling up in an ACRE at a track day. People that truly understand the ACRE either are true track enthusiasts, just want the bragging rights of having the baddest "deagle" with intentions to cars and coffee it and garage it or possibly got the wrong car.

No answer is right or wrong IF you buy the exact car that fits exactly what you want to accomplish.

[ViperSRT]

I won't argue the subjective elements as you said it is hard to objectively argue against the 1.0 (strange following calling them subjective). But I was not aware you could order the TA in any form without the full compliment of aero and suspension/brakes/tires. You could order the advanced aero, which would provide the appearance of a TA 1.0 without the chassis refinements. The same is not true of a 2.0 as the wing cannot be had without the full 2.0 group or package. It is not clear that the 1.0 and 2.0 have all common chassis components and tuning, which if different could provide differing driving characteristics.

[Bruce H.]

2. Truly analyze how often you track and account for it's costs. If tracking is 1 then definitely go ACRE if possible and if it's out of range a TA 2.0 is likely better than a 1.0 for tracking.


I think you're selling the TA a bit short for serious track rats.

I don't imagine there are any ACR-E owners that track as much as I do and drive the car to both local and distant tracks instead of trailering it. The TA straddles that dual duty uniquely well, being comfortable and very, very capable on track. Track days are so simple...pack your helmet, driving shoes, tire gage, lug wrenches, enter destination in Nav and go!!!

[ViperSRT]

Terminator does not understand it is not purely a cost decision. For what some TA owners paid they could have had an ACR, but chose not to. Streetability is an important characteristic. I expect some ACRs to be up for sale after people have had enough time in them to understand how rough 600 and 1200 lb/in springs feel (vs 240/600 in the TA).

[IndyRon]

Whats the difference in downforce between the TA1 and TA2?

[Voice of Reason]

Whats the difference in downforce between the TA1 and TA2?

100 lbs I think.

[ACRSNK]

Terminator does not understand it is not purely a cost decision. For what some TA owners paid they could have had an ACR, but chose not to. Streetability is an important characteristic. I expect some ACRs to be up for sale after people have had enough time in them to understand how rough 600 and 1200 lb/in springs feel (vs 240/600 in the TA).

I doubt it. My Gen V GTS-R feels like a Cadillac compared to my Gen I and Gen II ACR.

[Terminator02]

The downforce is increased from 278 to 400 at 150mph neither is super significant.

Bruce, I'm definitely not downplaying the TA for track as again my point is most won't even reach a normal viper limit. The brakes are outstanding and last long, no wrenching needed and it's great for the track but so is any gen V. I would not buy an acre but I do think it's the dwfinitive choice for a true track purpose viper which was my point.

Vipersrt you misread my sentence. I stated one has to analyze track use and it's costs. Again, if one is going to use as a track vehicle primary it makes sense to go that route. If it's not then people really need to factor in the costs of brakes, tires, etc along with the streetability issues of suspension, etc.

Arguing over what TA is faster is moot because it's down to the driver. 2.0 has slightly better downforce but I wouldn't say it's significant. Suspension is the same. Nowhere have I read or heard anyone mention 2.0 having revised tuning. They are the same car. Same brakes same tires and suspension

[ViperSRT]

Terminator it was this sentence that lead to the suspension question.
"Unless you had a full TA 1.0 car, your gts didn't come with the refined suspension and different brakes like a TA 1.0."

All group and package TAs had the full suspension. Only advanced aero did not. That was why I did not understand what was meant by "full 1.0 TA" and made me question if they made a change (I was not aware of any).

As for ACR and high track use. Many may find brakes (if carbon were ordered) and tires will be a high cost for the benefits. Getting a few seconds (which is huge I understand) for an extra thousand or more a weekend is out of my price range.

[Snorman]

Terminator does not understand it is not purely a cost decision. For what some TA owners paid they could have had an ACR, but chose not to. Streetability is an important characteristic. I expect some ACRs to be up for sale after people have had enough time in them to understand how rough 600 and 1200 lb/in springs feel (vs 240/600 in the TA).Gen V ACR's are approaching the end of their 2nd year in production and have been in owners' hands since 2015. i've yet to see any major flood of used models on the secondary market.
Some? Sure...no more than any other Viper model.
S.

[Terminator02]

Terminator it was this sentence that lead to the suspension question.
"Unless you had a full TA 1.0 car, your gts didn't come with the refined suspension and different brakes like a TA 1.0."

All group and package TAs had the full suspension. Only advanced aero did not. That was why I did not understand what was meant by "full 1.0 TA" and made me question if they made a change (I was not aware of any).

As for ACR and high track use. Many may find brakes (if carbon were ordered) and tires will be a high cost for the benefits. Getting a few seconds (which is huge I understand) for an extra thousand or more a weekend is out of my price range.

Heh I feel like I am just poor phone writing. I meant I didn't think your previous gts car could have the full TA options. Aero, yes. I don't think any gts cars outside of 14 ta/gts anodized came with TA everything. Only way to get suspension brakes carbon etc was to get a gtc and tic the boxes.

The 2.0 and 1.0 offer very good roi. If you wanted to increase times just tires would do that but as Bruce shows the stock do a lot of good work.

[nuviper]

Actually if you select TA group (not the numbered TA package) for the GTC, you will get the TA suspension, brakes, tires, and etc.

[ViperSRT]

Terminator I thought your comment was directed at this post. Where he clearly stated it was a TA 1.0 that he thought was inferior performance wise. Not that I agree, as the difference between 1 and 2 should not be that significant.


I prefer the 2.0.

I had a GTS w/ the 14' 1.0 TA group package and it drove great but being that it was my 1st Viper, I didn't have a point of reference. After getting the 2.0 I prefer how it drives particularly on the track and at high highway speeds. The 2.0 feels more planted (downforce you can feel) and the suspension tune feels more refined at all speeds. I personally like the extra aero bits of the 2.0 over the more modest 1.0 bits. My first time out in the 2.0 at Homestead Motor Speedway, my lap times dropped 5 seconds going from the 1.0 to 2.0 simply because the limits of the 2.0 can be pushed harder due in part to the extra downforce and better turn-in.

[Terminator02]

You are correct lol. My mistake!

[dhx]

The 1.0 lines flow and the car looks amazing from every angle. The 2.0 lines are broken up and the wing looks like an after thought. I could stare at the side profile of a 1.0 all day and never get bored.

[Special Ed]

The 1.0 lines flow and the car looks amazing from every angle. The 2.0 lines are broken up and the wing looks like an after thought. I could stare at the side profile of a 1.0 all day and never get bored.

Some guys like a woman in jeans and a tee shirt (TA1) and some guys prefer a woman dressed for a hot night of action (TA2). Neither one is wrong.

[imagine]

Haha, loving the analogies.

[dhx]

Some guys like a woman in jeans and a tee shirt (TA1) and some guys prefer a woman dressed for a hot night of action (TA2). Neither one is wrong.

The TA 1.0 is like a thin athletic runner
The TA 2.0 is her hot friend who got implants

[Special Ed]

The TA 1.0 is like a thin athletic runner
The TA 2.0 is her hot friend who got implants

Nothing wrong with a great set of bolt on mods.

[Vipes]

The 1.0 lines flow and the car looks amazing from every angle. The 2.0 lines are broken up and the wing looks like an after thought. I could stare at the side profile of a 1.0 all day and never get bored.

Well said, I agree.

[zee]

Can you even order a 2.0 wing? You see so many people order the TA 1.0 aero pieces which also clearly indicates that it's a more desirable look. If you can order the 2.0 stuff - then case closed.

[One Viper Bite]

Some guys like a woman in jeans and a tee shirt (TA1) and some guys prefer a woman dressed for a hot night of action (TA2). Neither one is wrong.

LOL I'm going to have to disagree.

The TA 1.0 is like a classy girl wearing a flattering pair of slacks, a cute blouse that just a bit revealing, and a classy set of heels that are just high enough to give her presence but not high enough to be seen in a strip club. (This is the girl you marry. She's really attractive, but doens't need to try too hard.)

The TA 2.0 is like the girl who can't do her make-up well, wearing 6 inch plastic, glitter heels and a dress that fits just a bit awkwardly on her. (This is the one you realize is probably decently attractive if you remove all the poorly done make-up/style choices. A few drinks and you don't mind sleeping with her.)

The ACR is the girl that's just as hot as the TA 1.0 girl, but she went all out. Heavy but well done make-up, super high (and high quality heels), a super revealing but extremely well fitting dress and she's walking around knowing she's the hottest thing in a 5 mile radius. (This is the one you would definitely sleep with, but you're not sure you would marry cause she's probably crazy.)

But I'm REALLY into fasion so I realize all of that probably doesn't mean anything to anyone LOL.

[ViperSRT]

Can you even order a 2.0 wing? You see so many people order the TA 1.0 aero pieces which also clearly indicates that it's a more desirable look. If you can order the 2.0 stuff - then case closed.

No you cannot.

[zee]

LOL I'm going to have to disagree.

The TA 1.0 is like a classy girl wearing a flattering pair of slacks, a cute blouse that just a bit revealing, and a classy set of heels that are just high enough to give her presence but not high enough to be seen in a strip club. (This is the girl you marry. She's really attractive, but doens't need to try too hard.)

The TA 2.0 is like the girl who can't do her make-up well, wearing 6 inch plastic, glitter heels and a dress that fits just a bit awkwardly on her. (This is the one you realize is probably decently attractive if you remove all the poorly done make-up/style choices. A few drinks and you don't mind sleeping with her.)

The ACR is the girl that's just as hot as the TA 1.0 girl, but she went all out. Heavy but well done make-up, super high (and high quality heels), a super revealing but extremely well fitting dress and she's walking around knowing she's the hottest thing in a 5 mile radius. (This is the one you would definitely sleep with, but you're not sure you would marry cause she's probably crazy.)

But I'm REALLY into fasion so I realize all of that probably doesn't mean anything to anyone LOL.

Lmao. All vipers are like the dirty hot trophy chick that's too hot for their own good. None are marriage material and should be treated like a side chick - their that much fun ;)

[USCDOC]

lol i'm going to have to disagree.

the ta 1.0 is like a classy girl wearing a flattering pair of slacks, a cute blouse that just a bit revealing, and a classy set of heels that are just high enough to give her presence but not high enough to be seen in a strip club. (this is the girl you marry. She's really attractive, but doens't need to try too hard.)

the ta 2.0 is like the girl who can't do her make-up well, wearing 6 inch plastic, glitter heels and a dress that fits just a bit awkwardly on her. (this is the one you realize is probably decently attractive if you remove all the poorly done make-up/style choices. A few drinks and you don't mind sleeping with her.)

the acr is the girl that's just as hot as the ta 1.0 girl, but she went all out. Heavy but well done make-up, super high (and high quality heels), a super revealing but extremely well fitting dress and she's walking around knowing she's the hottest thing in a 5 mile radius. (this is the one you would definitely sleep with, but you're not sure you would marry cause she's probably crazy.)

but i'm really into fasion so i realize all of that probably doesn't mean anything to anyone lol.

wahahahahhahahahahahaahahhaha

[PkB2014]

Lmao. All vipers are like the dirty hot trophy chick that's too hot for their own good. None are marriage material and should be treated like a side chick - their that much fun ;)

Truth :)

[Bruce H.]

Well it's pretty obvious where this thread is headed...

Here's some steamy shots of TA 1.0 aero for your consideration and enjoyment

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f262/GT2860RS/Viper%20TA/DSC_5475_zpse76a8f8e.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/GT2860RS/media/Viper%20TA/DSC_5475_zpse76a8f8e.jpg.html)

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f262/GT2860RS/Viper%20TA/DSC_5059_zps097e58ab.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/GT2860RS/media/Viper%20TA/DSC_5059_zps097e58ab.jpg.html)

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f262/GT2860RS/Viper%20TA/DSC_5075_zpsbea0399e.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/GT2860RS/media/Viper%20TA/DSC_5075_zpsbea0399e.jpg.html)

[Bruce H.]

She's got curves in all the right places, and a personality that really shines...

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f262/GT2860RS/Viper%20TA/DSC_5275_zpsdf640f8c.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/GT2860RS/media/Viper%20TA/DSC_5275_zpsdf640f8c.jpg.html)

[Dustin]

25439

Im super biased

[serpent]

Wow an H2, you mofo!

How fast have you gone in that beast?

[Special Ed]

Wow I didn't think my analogy would take this thread this direction.

[Dustin]

Goes pretty good. I took it to a half mile event and went 191 running out of gear for like 5 seconds before the finish line. I got different gearing on it now, should be good for 220 +

[GTSilver]

She's got curves in all the right places, and a personality that really shines...

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f262/GT2860RS/Viper%20TA/DSC_5275_zpsdf640f8c.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/GT2860RS/media/Viper%20TA/DSC_5275_zpsdf640f8c.jpg.html)

Bruce I chose a black ta instead of any viper when I purchased mine because of this exact picture. All I can say is thanks !!

[sadil]

Bruce I chose a black ta instead of any viper when I purchased mine because of this exact picture. All I can say is thanks !!

I agree with GTSilver. Bruce your wet track day photos sold me on the black TA

[Terminator02]

Bruce I chose a black ta instead of any viper when I purchased mine because of this exact picture. All I can say is thanks !!

Love your TA man. Those are such beautiful headers. What a quality setup. As for color, I loved the black venom paint on my previous 15 GT. Paint corrected with the crazy gloss of Cquartz Finest coating was amazing. I think the Orange accents on the TA make the black look that much cooler. For me though, the upkeep was frustrating. The only tradeoff of such quality paint is a very low level of clearcoat application. It varied from 26-45 microns of clear which is pretty low. The Orange is also a nice and rich color and allowed me to put off paint correction for awhile as the scratches from the previous dealer arent terribly noticeable but I think the black TA is the most menacing color with the Orange decals and brake accents. You black TA owners are quite lucky!

[Scott_in_fl]

Goes pretty good. I took it to a half mile event and went 191 running out of gear for like 5 seconds before the finish line. I got different gearing on it now, should be good for 220 +

What????? :dancingman:

That is nuts!!!

[Bruce H.]

Bruce I chose a black ta instead of any viper when I purchased mine because of this exact picture. All I can say is thanks !!


I agree with GTSilver. Bruce your wet track day photos sold me on the black TA

That's great to hear, thanks, and happy if it helped you guys make your decision!


Love your TA man. Those are such beautiful headers. What a quality setup. As for color, I loved the black venom paint on my previous 15 GT. Paint corrected with the crazy gloss of Cquartz Finest coating was amazing. I think the Orange accents on the TA make the black look that much cooler. For me though, the upkeep was frustrating. The only tradeoff of such quality paint is a very low level of clearcoat application. It varied from 26-45 microns of clear which is pretty low. The Orange is also a nice and rich color and allowed me to put off paint correction for awhile as the scratches from the previous dealer arent terribly noticeable but I think the black TA is the most menacing color with the Orange decals and brake accents. You black TA owners are quite lucky!

Agree 100%...outstanding setup!

And yes, black isn't for everyone...and maybe noone that's really anal about swirls. I may be anal about a lot of car and track stuff, but not about swirls fortunately!