9 0L Stage 2 Dyno Jet HP TQ

[F2V]

Where are these numbers...did I miss a post somewhere??

[Jack B]

They have not done a chasis dyno , if they have, it has not been posted. The engine dyno was sort of vague. It looks like 50 whp and 75 wftlbs over the stage 2. The tq appeared over 75 ftlbs better down low.



Where are these numbers...did I miss a post somewhere??

[F2V]

I thought people were standing on line to have the 9.0 mod installed, and would have dyno their Vipers by now. Are you having this mod done Jack, and if so when, so we can see what the real bang for the bucks is. Tks, R.

[1evilviper]

my car is at arrow now for the 9.0, I will 100% put it on a dyno and take it to the drag strip, with just the stage 2 iv been several 10.0s @141.x...im hoping to see 145mph traps

[Jack B]

The are several cars waiting for the 9L, there are also a few 9L's running around, those were built with pre-production parts, production parts are getting close. Peak hp is good, but, strokers are known for massive increases in torque down low. No one knows, but, if peak tq is up 75 ft lbs, it could be up 100 ft lbs down low, that is wishful thinking.

For those that have only driven a G5, a strong G2 feels more torquey and it starts down low, not like the peak torque at 5200 for a G5. Yes, I am waiting also.

[Space Truckin]

my car is at arrow now for the 9.0, I will 100% put it on a dyno and take it to the drag strip, with just the stage 2 iv been several 10.0s @141.x...im hoping to see 145mph traps

What is your eta....you must be jonesing BIG! :United_States:

[GTSilver]

Cant wait for dyno numbers before and after also driving reviews and impressions especially from people with h/c as I'm considering upgrading to the 9.0l as well.

[Jack B]

I wasn't going to post these, but, they are viper interesting:

Pulling the engine is not as difficult as it sounds, however, it will become extremely difficult without a lift. \

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Once everything is loose, it does come straight out with very little effort.

25030


Engine in the Arrow supplied shipping box

25031


Ready to Ship

25032

[Space Truckin]

^^^ :fpopcorn: ^^^

What kind of eta have you been quoted to have it returned? :United_States:

[Jack B]

The hold up has been the production parts. the turn around time at Arrow should be minimal if the build is solid. They also have three dyno cells. The build includes a two hour dyno break-in. They also do compression and leak-down tests after the break-in. they are using a different ring configuration and are getting less than 3% with the leak-down test.


^^^ :fpopcorn: ^^^

What kind of eta have you been quoted to have it returned? :United_States:

[F2V]

Tks for the scoop and pics...you are definitely a knowledgeable Viperholic :-))

[Coloviper]

Awesome Jack! Might be a dumb, unrelated question but where did you get the little "parking stop" sign thingy? I need about 3 of those. Ha! Ha!

[Jack B]

I bought them on-line. about five years ago. I will see if it has a mfg name on it. I had to add the five lb weight on the botom to make it work.



Awesome Jack! Might be a dumb, unrelated question but where did you get the little "parking stop" sign thingy? I need about 3 of those. Ha! Ha!

[mblgjr]

They have not done a chasis dyno , if they have, it has not been posted. The engine dyno was sort of vague. It looks like 50 whp and 75 wftlbs over the stage 2. The tq appeared over 75 ftlbs better down low.

Vague would be an understatement. Mickey Mouse line drawing.

Just do an SAE corrected pull & ve done. The rest will prove itself.

[Jack B]

It is hard for us to relate an engine dyno to a chasis dyno:

1. No alternator

2. No water pump.

3. No clutch.

4. All pulleys are disconnected.

5. Cats removed?



Vague would be an understatement. Mickey Mouse line drawing.

Just do an SAE corrected pull & ve done. The rest will prove itself.

[FLATOUT]

That and for the most part chassis dyno's are impossible to compare. Having driven and raced the auto 9.0L I can tell you that it's a fantastic driving setup.

[Jack B]

Andy

What was the biggest difference that you saw/felt between the Stage II and the stroker. BTW, I did get the Nth Moto clutch for the stroker.



That and for the most part chassis dyno's are impossible to compare. Having driven and raced the auto 9.0L I can tell you that it's a fantastic driving setup.

[ACR]

How does the stroker hold up at track events such as say COTA? 1/4 and mile events are one thing but I certainly don't want to limit my ACR to that

[mjorgensen]

How does the stroker hold up at track events such as say COTA? 1/4 and mile events are one thing but I certainly don't want to limit my ACR to that

Dick and Lee both feel that the 9.0L will be great at the track in either venue. They are confident in the design and dimensions for longevity.

Parts should be delivered this week and they will start building the 1st of our 6 engines by Friday, Monday at the latest.

[Jack B]

Due to the increased torque, it might mean not having to down shift in some corners.


Dick and Lee both feel that the 9.0L will be great at the track in either venue. They are confident in the design and dimensions for longevity.

Parts should be delivered this week and they will start building the 1st of our 6 engines by Friday, Monday at the latest.

[Terminator02]

I'm on the fence. I'd be lying if I wasn't attracted to the most NA power I could extract from the wizard himself but my Corsa pzero barely hold grip for the power I have. What really appeals to me is the increased low end torque due to increased displacement. That would be very practical for me. Plus the added benefit of great testing, bearing replacement etc is nice I suppose. If I were to proceed I would have to factor in an increase of 5k in my budget as I'd definitely replace tire setup and most definitely switch to a carbon clutch. Hc with radials alone doesn't like the stock clutch much so I would have to assume include improving my clutch with this build. But very intriguing option for me no doubt.

[Jack B]

How about a similiar mind set:

1. Nth Moto clutch on my bench.

2. Toyo R888R ordered.

3. Cat delete ordered

4. Smooth tubes sitting on bench




I'm on the fence. I'd be lying if I wasn't attracted to the most NA power I could extract from the wizard himself but my Corsa pzero barely hold grip for the power I have. What really appeals to me is the increased low end torque due to increased displacement. That would be very practical for me. Plus the added benefit of great testing, bearing replacement etc is nice I suppose. If I were to proceed I would have to factor in an increase of 5k in my budget as I'd definitely replace tire setup and most definitely switch to a carbon clutch. Hc with radials alone doesn't like the stock clutch much so I would have to assume include improving my clutch with this build. But very intriguing option for me no doubt.

[Terminator02]

How about a similiar mind set:

1. Nth Moto clutch on my bench.

2. Toyo R888R ordered.

3. Cat delete ordered

4. Smooth tubes sitting on bench

Ha! That's great. Already have 3/4 covered but would likely move to the toyo888r and definitely get the Nth clutch.

[Jack B]

The Nth Moto clutch is an interesting design. I do not think RPS has a break down pic of this version. The three discs have the center missing, however, the inner ID has gear teeth. There is an inner hub which has matching teeth that engages all three disks. Secondly, the floaters are strapless and held in place by ears that are held in place by the clutch cover.

Strapped floaters are quiet, however, they have some trade offs. It appears the Nth Moto and RPS design is far superior to a strapped design, who knows how it will perform, my oem clutch actually worked better than my Bad Boyz clutch or my McLeod clutch. All the after-market clutches seem very nice early on, once they get a glaze, it is all down hill. Probably all the aforementioned clutches will work if you do not use sticky tires on a sticky track.




Ha! That's great. Already have 3/4 covered but would likely move to the toyo888r and definitely get the Nth clutch.

[Back In Black]

The hold up has been the production parts. the turn around time at Arrow should be minimal if the build is solid. They also have three dyno cells. The build includes a two hour dyno break-in. They also do compression and leak-down tests after the break-in. they are using a different ring configuration and are getting less than 3% with the leak-down test.

3%...that's damn good. Gen4 engines are 4% and don't use forged pistons.

[FLATOUT]

You're going to love that clutch!

Because of that hub design make sure it's moving freely on the input shaft of the trans. My input shaft had some play in it and we didn't use much if any lapping compound when we first installed it. Aaron flew down and we looked it over and found that the OE part was causing a bind not allowing it to engage properly. Once we got that taken care of the clutch was PERFECT! Definitely my go to clutch on these cars, I was extremely happy with how it performed and drove.


The Nth Moto clutch is an interesting design. I do not think RPS has a break down pic of this version. The three discs have the center missing, however, the inner ID has gear teeth. There is an inner hub which has matching teeth that engages all three disks. Secondly, the floaters are strapless and held in place by ears that are held in place by the clutch cover.

Strapped floaters are quiet, however, they have some trade offs. It appears the Nth Moto and RPS design is far superior to a strapped design, who knows how it will perform, my oem clutch actually worked better than my Bad Boyz clutch or my McLeod clutch.

[FLATOUT]

Andy

What was the biggest difference that you saw/felt between the Stage II and the stroker. BTW, I did get the Nth Moto clutch for the stroker.

I've been a little quiet about my feelings about the difference between the two because of the auto trans, and what the torque converter does to multiply torque.

I will say that the 9.0L power band is THICK. you don't just get that top end rush that you get from a heads and cam package you get a big hearty power band from the get go. Road manners were fantastic but again an auto trans can mask some things.

As for road racing as Mark already mentioned I don't see it being a problem at all. Arrow in general designs products that have more of an endurance racing style of engineering instead of a one and done drag strip pass approach.

[Mclarengts]

the H/C setup ran a 9.9@140
the 9.0L with Auto ran 9.7@141

seems like the 9.0L and Auto would be a lot faster

[mjorgensen]

Different conditions and prep, 9.3 in ideal setup.



the H/C setup ran a 9.9@140
the 9.0L with Auto ran 9.7@141

seems like the 9.0L and Auto would be a lot faster

[Jack B]

You probably already know this, but, just in case:

1. Drive line losses with an auto trans can be as high as 30%, therefore dropping the mph on the auto.

2. The DA between the two different days was almost 1000, therefore, dropping the power and mph on the auto.

3. To me the most amazing thing was that this was a first time venture at the strip with no time to prep the car.

4. If you look at the 60 ft times, they were both very similar, lets say an average 1.5 seconds. The auto car that Andy was driving is capable of 1.3 60 ft times if they had some time to set it up and add a high stall converter. That means low 9 second runs.

What else can you ask for?


the H/C setup ran a 9.9@140
the 9.0L with Auto ran 9.7@141

seems like the 9.0L and Auto would be a lot faster

[GTSilver]

Bump for anyone that had received their 9.0l kit for feedback

[mjorgensen]

Bump for anyone that had received their 9.0l kit for feedback

I have not even received my second engine so no data available, I have 5 in process, 7 waiting.

[ACRucrazy]

I have not even received my second engine so no data available, I have 5 in process, 7 waiting.

Das a lotta liters..

[IHOP]

I have not even received my second engine so no data available, I have 5 in process, 7 waiting.

Mark, I may have missed this but what is the cost of the 9.0L and the stage 2 HC package?

[GTSilver]

Bump

[NoMorZR1]

Should get my car back this week, but with temps in AZ being close to 120* for awhile, mine won't see a dyno or be driven much 'til things cool off , maybe Oct !

[ACtechOPS]

Slumming over here with you guys:) Was at Arrow/Prefix three weeks ago, shot a video of the test cells. The engine running is a 396. The test cell on the left is dedicated to the gen 5 enginesl and all of them are put through their paces prior to installation. I guess this is Arrows new facility, used to be an old Kmart store in Auburn Hills. Still had the tire service bays so it was perfect. Click the dropbox link for videos.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/s8m04rukw2xqlgv/AADRL2pqz8bTsmDtYIMMibxQa?dl=0

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[Space Truckin]

Tic Toc Tic Toc....:dancingman:

[v10tt]

Where are these numbers...did I miss a post somewhere??

I have not seen numbers at the wheels, but I've seen (2) reports from dynos at Arrow Facility on the engine dyno.
760/740 and the other one with a bit more compression 770/740 HP/Tq at the FW for the 9.0 liter

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1745779795435660&set=pcb.849987791843634&type=3

[J TNT]

Slumming over here with you guys:) Was at Arrow/Prefix three weeks ago, shot a video of the test cells. The engine running is a 396. The test cell on the left is dedicated to the gen 5 enginesl and all of them are put through their paces prior to installation. I guess this is Arrows new facility, used to be an old Kmart store in Auburn Hills. Still had the tire service bays so it was perfect. Click the dropbox link for videos.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/s8m04rukw2xqlgv/AADRL2pqz8bTsmDtYIMMibxQa?dl=0

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That was a great day Rick , Keep August 12 / 2017 open ! ;)

[Jack B]

Here are some numbers from my engine dyno, the one item that stands out is that the torque curve is so flat:

Engine RPM---Corrected Torque -----Corrected HP
rpm------------------ ft lbs ------------------HP
3030.4 -------------- 572.4------------------330.3

4917.78 -------------721.2 -----------------675.3

6037.59 -------------667.9 -----------------767.8

6318.37--------------614.9 -----------------739.7


The numbers above are from a spreadsheet that generates a row of data every 2 rpm.

Dick thought the car should see an additional 20 hp after break-in. These engines are tight, they need some miles.

[Space Truckin]

^^^this^^^
Very nice numbers...:dancingman: :drive:

[Stealth78]

Here are some numbers from my engine dyno, the one item that stands out is that the torque curve is so flat:

Engine RPM---Corrected Torque -----Corrected HP
rpm------------------ ft lbs ------------------HP
3030.4 -------------- 572.4------------------330.3

4917.78 -------------721.2 -----------------675.3

6037.59 -------------667.9 -----------------767.8

6318.37--------------614.9 -----------------739.7


The numbers above are from a spreadsheet that generates a row of data every 2 rpm.

Dick thought the car should see an additional 20 hp after break-in. These engines are tight, they need some miles.

I want to state that I love NA set-ups, but this is an eye opener of why a lot of guys must chose to go FI.... So we are basically looking at an increase of 120 Ft lbs and 120 HP over stock?? Isn't this about $25K-$30K? I don't mean sound pessimistic but that seems like a ton of money for that amount of gain.

[Smokin]

Depends on what youre going to use the car for.

[Scott_in_fl]

I must be missing something. Mark says the 9.0L could be good for 9.3 1/4 mile times. That is insane!!!

But, Stealth78 seems to think that this is only a 120hp increase from stock which, I agree, does not sound that impressive and cannot explain 1/4 mile times in the 9.3 range.

So, either this kit is making much more than 120hp, or there is no way it is getting to 9.3 (or, my grasp of power in relation to 1/4 mile times needs some serious recalibrating).

[Space Truckin]

I want to state that I love NA set-ups, but this is an eye opener of why a lot of guys must chose to go FI.... So we are basically looking at an increase of 120 Ft lbs and 120 HP over stock?? Isn't this about $25K-$30K? I don't mean sound pessimistic but that seems like a ton of money for that amount of gain.

I believe your numbers are incorrect and you are also missing a "complete rebuild" (insurance for those of us using a quart of oil every 1000 miles...UGH) with a Billet crank...JM2C

[Jack B]

The 9.3sec time came up in a thread with Andy (Flatout) when he ran 9.7 sec with the 9L. That car is quite capable of going 9.3 or better.


I must be missing something. Mark says the 9.0L could be good for 9.3 1/4 mile times. That is insane!!!

But, Stealth78 seems to think that this is only a 120hp increase from stock which, I agree, does not sound that impressive and cannot explain 1/4 mile times in the 9.3 range.

So, either this kit is making much more than 120hp, or there is no way it is getting to 9.3 (or, my grasp of power in relation to 1/4 mile times needs some serious recalibrating).

[Stealth78]

I believe your numbers are incorrect and you are also missing a "complete rebuild" (insurance for those of us using a quart of oil every 1000 miles...UGH) with a Billet crank...JM2C

Just to be clear I am going off of Jack's numbers. Stock Gen V is 645/600 correct? In Jack's graph it is showing peak numbers of 767.8/721.2. So I guess I am off by 2-3 HP and 1 ft lb of torque.

[Scott_in_fl]

The 9.3sec time came up in a thread with Andy (Flatout) when he ran 9.7 sec with the 9L. That car is quite capable of going 9.3 or better.

Wow! 9.3 would be awesome!

[cashcorn]

Stealth78, I hear you. Vendors heads/cam are producing 700+ rwhp. Have you considered the stroker with a new cam grind from a vendor? 750 rwhp?

[Space Truckin]

Just to be clear I am going off of Jack's numbers. Stock Gen V is 645/600 correct? In Jack's graph it is showing peak numbers of 767.8/721.2. So I guess I am off by 2-3 HP and 1 ft lb of torque.

"So we are basically looking at an increase of 120 Ft lbs and 120 HP over stock?? Isn't this about $25K-$30K?"

I was referring your "pricing numbers" :slap:

[socal]

Area under the curve > peak numbers in real life

[Stealth78]

"So we are basically looking at an increase of 120 Ft lbs and 120 HP over stock?? Isn't this about $25K-$30K?"

I was referring your "pricing numbers" :slap:

Oh. Lol! Insert palm + face

[GTSilver]

Here are some numbers from my engine dyno, the one item that stands out is that the torque curve is so flat:

Engine RPM---Corrected Torque -----Corrected HP
rpm------------------ ft lbs ------------------HP
3030.4 -------------- 572.4------------------330.3

4917.78 -------------721.2 -----------------675.3

6037.59 -------------667.9 -----------------767.8

6318.37--------------614.9 -----------------739.7


The numbers above are from a spreadsheet that generates a row of data every 2 rpm.

Dick thought the car should see an additional 20 hp after break-in. These engines are tight, they need some miles.

Gains looks great especially torque figures and at a much lower rpm. My question is what was the h/c marketed at ? 745hp on the engine dyno and what was the torque figures as well ?

Thanks

[Jack B]

I was told 740, however, however, the torque would have been less than stock all the way to 5000. The reason the 9L seems so different is the torque starts at 575 ft lbs and just keeps building.


Gains looks great especially torque figures and at a much lower rpm. My question is what was the h/c marketed at ? 745hp on the engine dyno and what was the torque figures as well ?

Thanks

[Nambo]

Gains looks great especially torque figures and at a much lower rpm. My question is what was the h/c marketed at ? 745hp on the engine dyno and what was the torque figures as well ?

Thanks

My Arrow H/C package made 722 cbhp @ 6100 rpm and 682 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm on the engine dyno.

[GTSilver]

My Arrow H/C package made 722 cbhp @ 6100 rpm and 682 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm on the engine dyno.

I'd like to know why does that translate to a way lower figure on the rear tires ? On average h/c cars are around the 650-660rwhp range. Yes I know each dyno is different with different conditions, however I came a across a gen 2 build by arrow that had 680hp on the engine dyno and translated to 640rwhp on the dyno with arrow tune before then retuning it and getting 660rwhp. Yes I know other vendors have reached way more power but to be honest I'm more than happy with my h/c setup with the reliability on track thus the reason considering adding the 9.0l but looking for ways to add a bit more. Ported intake or bumping compression.

[Jack B]

I'd like to know why does that translate to a way lower figure on the rear tires ? On average h/c cars are around the 650-660rwhp range. Yes I know each dyno is different with different conditions, however I came a across a gen 2 build by arrow that had 680hp on the engine dyno and translated to 640rwhp on the dyno with arrow tune before then retuning it and getting 660rwhp. Yes I know other vendors have reached way more power but to be honest I'm more than happy with my h/c setup with the reliability on track thus the reason considering adding the 9.0l but looking for ways to add a bit more. Ported intake or bumping compression.

If you took a ride in a 9L car and did not know what the mod was, you would swear it was boosted.

[GTSilver]

If you took a ride in a 9L car and did not know what what the mod was, you would swear it was boosted.

I wish I can take a ride in one that will help a lot to make a decision faster, I'm half way across the world so I'll be shipping my car to the states to do the 9.0l. I'm reading the reviews and asking owners for feedback to pull the trigger. I'm thinking of adding the shorter 5th gear ratio as well to help as the tracks I drive on I reach 5th gear for a while before the braking points. And other measures to for reliability.

[slowhatch]

I wish I can take a ride in one that will help a lot to make a decision faster, I'm half way across the world so I'll be shipping my car to the states to do the 9.0l. I'm reading the reviews and asking owners for feedback to pull the trigger. I'm thinking of adding the shorter 5th gear ratio as well to help as the tracks I drive on I reach 5th gear for a while before the braking points. And other measures to for reliability.

Yousif don't ship the car, ship the motor.

[NoMorZR1]

I got my car back last week, and put a few miles on it Sunday. Even in 105 degree AZ temps, the car feels quite a bit peppier through the gears versus what I remember with just the H & C installed. A few "easy" pulls from the stoplight to 120mph went by very quickly. This car is plenty fast for me. I was considering a mild TT kit on top of the 9.0, but I've changed my mind. I can hardly wait for the cooler weather to arrive in Sept. /Oct. :drive:

[Space Truckin]

Yousif don't ship the car, ship the motor.


If memory serves me correctly, Arrow will only allow the Big 3 (Viper Exchange, Woodhouse or Roanoke) to remove 8.4 and install the 9.0 stroker...FWIW :drive:

[GTSilver]

Yousif don't ship the car, ship the motor.

Alex to be honest the shipping rates here are expensive to ship the engine by air freight, its more expensive than shipping it through a container to the states. Yes it will be way longer but also I'll be doing some other stuff which I don't trust anyone here in the region to do (dry sump+ oil tank in the trunk, trans+diff cooler, clutch and 2010 ACR 5th gear it may seem as a simple job for any of the vendors here but here its a different story) Also it'll be an excuse to come visit and drive on tracks in the states with my car.

[GTSilver]

I got my car back last week, and put a few miles on it Sunday. Even in 105 degree AZ temps, the car feels quite a bit peppier through the gears versus what I remember with just the H & C installed. A few "easy" pulls from the stoplight to 120mph went by very quickly. This car is plenty fast for me. I was considering a mild TT kit on top of the 9.0, but I've changed my mind. I can hardly wait for the cooler weather to arrive in Sept. /Oct. :drive:

Congrats, I'm glad that your happy with the 9.0l and that you changed your mind regarding a mild TT on top tells a lot about the torque of the kit. Hopefully when the weather gets cooler and others kit their kits others will have a better a idea of the gains.

On another note thats about spring weather here !! Today temps reached 131F here.

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If memory serves me correctly, Arrow will only allow the Big 3 (Viper Exchange, Woodhouse or Roanoke) to remove 8.4 and install the 9.0 stroker...FWIW :drive:


I don't think thats entirely true as a forum member here Jack B removed his engine and shipped it.

[Space Truckin]

I don't think thats entirely true as a forum member here Jack B removed his engine and shipped it.

Yes you are spot on with Jack B, give Arrow a call....JM2C

[Arizona Vipers]

Congrats, I'm glad that your happy with the 9.0l and that you changed your mind regarding a mild TT on top tells a lot about the torque of the kit. Hopefully when the weather gets cooler and others kit their kits others will have a better a idea of the gains.

On another note thats about spring weather here !! Today temps reached 131F here.

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I don't think thats entirely true as a forum member here Jack B removed his engine and shipped it.

I did the same thing, sent my engine to Arrow and got back my 9.0 liter last week!

[GTSilver]

I did the same thing, sent my engine to Arrow and got back my 9.0 liter last week!

I just found out as I saw a post on FB congrats and cant wait to hear your feedback when you get the chance.

[Stealth78]

What is the actual cubic inch displacement of this engine? 540?

[Space Truckin]

Converts to 549 c.i.

[DZnutz]

I did the same thing, sent my engine to Arrow and got back my 9.0 liter last week!



Total cost without shipping?

[GTSilver]

Total cost without shipping?

On what was announced here in the forums i think between 11-12k thats without keeping the OEM parts. Not 100% sure but I'll look up the thread.

[NoMorZR1]

Cost is closer to $18K.

[DZnutz]

I only want to hear from people who have actually had this done

[NoMorZR1]

I only want to hear from people who have actually had this done???

[DZnutz]

???

What is the confusion? GTSilver chimed in with a price when he has no clue.

If you have had this done let me know exactly what your cost was. Each vendor should be charging exactly the same for the work and parts. The only variables should be the extras that some shops may/may not do so you can exclude those.

[GTSilver]

What is the confusion? GTSilver chimed in with a price when he has no clue.

If you have had this done let me know exactly what your cost was. Each vendor should be charging exactly the same for the work and parts. The only variables should be the extras that some shops may/may not do so you can exclude those.

Its not that I don't have a clue I'm basing what I said based on the below :

"Arrow Racing 9 0L kits now available
Gains in power should be about 50 more than the normal stage2 builds and have +75 ft/lbs. on it also. If you are thinking of doing the stage 2 kit anyway you will save some money doing both at the same time!

CRANKSHAFT 4.200 STROKE
SPROCKET; CRANKSHAFT
BEARING; PILOT
WINDAGE TRAY/SCRAPPER
CONNECTING RODS 6.200 CL
CONNECTING RODS 6.200 CL
PISTONS ARR-4065-1.18
MAIN BEARINGS (5+THRUST)
ROD BEARINGS (10) - 2.10"


STROKER KIT PRICE: $11,237.97 for parts

Arrow Engine Build:

$2,500.00 INCLUDES HONING OF CYLINDERS, FULL Teardown, assembly, re-use/modify scrapper MEASUREMENTS, FIT RINGS & FIT BEARINGS. DOES NOT INCLUDE GASKETS, SEALS, DYNO or CONSUMABLES (OIL & FUEL)

ARROW BUILT KIT PRICE $13,424.97


If you have question or would like on the list (sold first 2 already on existing builds) call, txt or email me anytime."

https://driveviper.com/forums/threads/17166-Arrow-Racing-9-0L-kits-now-available?highlight=arrow+9.0l

Above is the thread if you want to know where I got the info.

[ViperDC]

Cost is closer to $18K.

is that for the stroker and heads/cam or just the stroker

[mjorgensen]

is that for the stroker and heads/cam or just the stroker

That included R&I, Dyno at Arrow, fluids and shipping both ways of engine and car.

[NoMorZR1]

With shipping , the total was $20k. That was tbe cost for the 9.0l kit only.

[socal]

Can't wait to see what Calvo or Nth can do with one of these on an all out naturally aspirated build. Who is going to crack 800 to the wheels first...

[texasram]

Is the rev limiter lowered for the kit?

[Arizona Vipers]

Is the rev limiter lowered for the kit?

They set my redline at 6400 and that's with their heads/cam, which is 200rpm lower than they do with their heads/cam without the stroker.

[GTSilver]

They set my redline at 6400 and that's with their heads/cam, which is 200rpm lower than they do with their heads/cam without the stroker.

Would love to hear your feedback when you get your car compared to your previous setup.

[Arizona Vipers]

Would love to hear your feedback when you get your car compared to your previous setup.

Cool will do. Will be awhile before I can get it to the track. I'm also probably going to change to 3.23 gears.

[GTSilver]

Cool will do. Will be awhile before I can get it to the track. I'm also probably going to change to 3.23 gears.

Thanks as I would love track feedback rather on the street. Are you still running the sequential trans ? If not why the change to 3.23 gears ?

[Arizona Vipers]

Thanks as I would love track feedback rather on the street. Are you still running the sequential trans ? If not why the change to 3.23 gears ?

No, back to the 6 speed. I think the car will be faster on the track with 3.23's, I'll be able to go 102 in 2nd gear versus 92mph with the 3.55's. I'll be in 2nd gear 95% of most tracks, only upshifting on the straights.

[GTSilver]

No, back to the 6 speed. I think the car will be faster on the track with 3.23's, I'll be able to go 102 in 2nd gear versus 92mph with the 3.55's. I'll be in 2nd gear 95% of most tracks, only upshifting on the straights.

Makes sense if its suitable for most tracks you drive on. I'm considering going with a shorter 5th gear if I pull the trigger on the 9.0l as the tracks I drive in have long straights.

[Back In Black]

No, back to the 6 speed. Why?