Gtsr pricing

[SlowPoke McGee]

There doesn't seem to be many out there to reference but what is the consensus here as to where a 2000 gtsr should be asking? Now how about one with a twin turbo set up? Pristine condition car low mileage.

[GuitarSteve2112]

Hey SlowPoke,

Are you referring to the 100 white/blue GTS-R cars built in 1998 to celebrate Viper's track wins in the GT2 series?

[SlowPoke McGee]

Hey SlowPoke,

Are you referring to the 100 white/blue GTS-R cars built in 1998 to celebrate Viper's track wins in the GT2 series?


This one. If it's a 2000, safe to assume it's a GTS-R clone?
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[Vipernoob]

This car I'm thinking of is White with blue stripes. I'm not too sure of much more than that. There couldn't have been too many gtsr's made in 2000 were there?

Yeah, 0 made unless its an actual GT2 race car. All the road going GT2/GTSR were made in 1998.

[SlowPoke McGee]

Yeah, 0 made unless its an actual GT2 race car. All the road going GT2/GTSR were made in 1998.

Good to know. Guess I didn't stumble on a deal of a lifetime afterall:smilielol:

[Boosted Motorsports]

Is there an after burner attached to that rear diffuser? Holy hell that thing is ridiculous lol

[ACRSNK]

That thing is just plain awful!!!

[slitherv10]

That thing is just plain awful!!!

From this distance it looks like your Avatar

[SlowPoke McGee]

Here's the ad. The engine work sounds pretty awesome. I'm not a huge fan of the rear diffuser either but with this much power, it may need all the help it can get staying straight on a 1/2 mile lol

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/6034253724.html

[Boosted Motorsports]

" *Custom one-off Front and Rear Spoiler/Diffusers. There is no other Viper with them! "

Thank god! :lol2:

[99RT10]

Here's the ad. The engine work sounds pretty awesome. I'm not a huge fan of the rear diffuser either but with this much power, it may need all the help it can get staying straight on a 1/2 mile lol

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/6034253724.html


Did you notice the ebay TT kit that is installed? :eek:

[bluesrt]

good lord a pimple on a ass would look better,thats pretty bad

[ACRSNK]

From this distance it looks like your Avatar

Time to get those glasses you have been needing.

[Mopar'er no car]

Did you notice the ebay TT kit that is installed? :eek:

I was thinking the same thing but I tend to be more negative than positive it seems, so I kept my mouth shut...l0l.

[smhog]

This one. If it's a 2000, safe to assume it's a GTS-R clone?
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I'm going with AutoForm. That hood, the scoop on the roof and IIRC Steve posted a customer wanted the rear that way.

But as to your question, I don't know what a custom 2000 GTS is going for.

[Vipes]

That's pretty sad for them to lie about it being a GTS-R. This is up there with the dolphin viper.

[OneofOneViper]

That's pretty sad for them to lie about it being a GTS-R. This is up there with the dolphin viper.

Nowhere in the ad did it state this was a GTS-R. No one is lying to anyone. The OP knew just enough about vipers to know that a GTS-R was worth something, but not enough to know it wasn't a GTS-R.

[Vipes]

Nowhere in the ad did it state this was a GTS-R. No one is lying to anyone. The OP knew just enough about vipers to know that a GTS-R was worth something, but not enough to know it wasn't a GTS-R.

That's my point exactly. I wouldn't know any different either so it's deceiving even though they didn't mention it. Why the heck would anyone put that on their car if it wasn't a GTS-R? There is no other reason other than to fake people out that wouldn't know any better in a sad effort to show off, similar to the non functioning roof scoop. To me if you're selling something like this that isn't genuine you should add a disclaimer in the add, similar to selling a fake rolex. If you don't say whether the rolex is real or fake, most people would assume it's real.

[SlowPoke McGee]

That's my point exactly. I wouldn't know any different either so it's deceiving even though they didn't mention it. Why the heck would anyone put that on their car if it wasn't a GTS-R? There is no other reason other than to fake people out that wouldn't know any better in a sad effort to show off, similar to the non functioning roof scoop. To me if you're selling something like this that isn't genuine you should add a disclaimer in the add, similar to selling a fake rolex. If you don't say whether the rolex is real or fake, most people would assume it's real.

I agree with you. There should be a disclaimer at the very least. I've never been a fan of clone cars. You see them alot in the older vintage muscle cars with the fake SS badges, etc. I would feel like a bit of a fraud driving one around. Kinda like wearing a toupee lol Keep it real. The car is awesome on it's own merits without having to cheese it up with aero kits and fake logos

[Boosted Motorsports]

That's my point exactly. I wouldn't know any different either so it's deceiving even though they didn't mention it. Why the heck would anyone put that on their car if it wasn't a GTS-R? There is no other reason other than to fake people out that wouldn't know any better in a sad effort to show off, similar to the non functioning roof scoop. To me if you're selling something like this that isn't genuine you should add a disclaimer in the add, similar to selling a fake rolex. If you don't say whether the rolex is real or fake, most people would assume it's real.

Haven't you ever seen an M badge on a BMW? :smilielol:
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[SlowPoke McGee]

Gotta admit though, that's a pretty sick stance. Am I right?
I don't know enough about twin turbo's to comment on the "ebayesque" quality of said components contained herein. Those red "rubber band" pipe connectors seem a bit suspect though

https://images.craigslist.org/00101_7PkqPHnF6HA_1200x900.jpg

[SlowPoke McGee]

Haven't you ever seen an M badge on a BMW? :smilielol:
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Is this an inside joke? Please do explain!

[Fatboy 18]

Is this an inside joke? Please do explain!

Of course its not, some people like to put an M Badge on a BMW making you think its a performance car, just like adding a GT badge. Take my car I just went a bit further with the stickers and bolt ons :smilielol:

[Fatboy 18]

I would contact Steve at Autoform, Im sure he could tell you some history on that development :)

[BrianACR]

Is this an inside joke? Please do explain!

Or they put an AMG badge on regular C-class benz.

I have always wanted a '98 GTS/R, but I would go for a real one and not a clone. And definitely not with a back end looking like that!!
But being as those cars are out of my price range, maybe I'll just hafta put a GT2 wing on my ACR and call it good lol

[OneofOneViper]

That's my point exactly. I wouldn't know any different either so it's deceiving even though they didn't mention it. Why the heck would anyone put that on their car if it wasn't a GTS-R? There is no other reason other than to fake people out that wouldn't know any better in a sad effort to show off, similar to the non functioning roof scoop. To me if you're selling something like this that isn't genuine you should add a disclaimer in the add, similar to selling a fake rolex. If you don't say whether the rolex is real or fake, most people would assume it's real.

You're jumping to conclusions. Maybe the buyer couldn't ever locate a GTSR or the price was too much so he decided to make his own version with the same color paint and badging and seats etc... This isn't like a fake Rolex, because they call them Rolexes when they try to sell you a fake Rolex. He states it's a customized 2000 viper right in in first sentence. Anyone who knows much about vipers knows they don't make a 2000 GTSR. The OP knew just enough to get himself in trouble through no fault of the seller whatsoever.

[SlowPoke McGee]

Of course its not, some people like to put an M Badge on a BMW making you think its a performance car, just like adding a GT badge. Take my car I just went a bit further with the stickers and bolt ons :smilielol:

As long as you don't have multiple GTS-R logos affixed to every visible angle of ones possible vantage point, we're all good, Fatboy :smilielol:

[SlowPoke McGee]

You're jumping to conclusions. Maybe the buyer couldn't ever locate a GTSR or the price was too much so he decided to make his own version with the same color paint and badging and seats etc... This isn't like a fake Rolex, because they call them Rolexes when they try to sell you a fake Rolex. He states it's a customized 2000 viper right in in first sentence. Anyone who knows much about vipers knows they don't make a 2000 GTSR. The OP knew just enough to get himself in trouble through no fault of the seller whatsoever.

Sounds like you might know or possibly ARE the seller. That's ok. I'm not sure where I got myself in trouble. I saw an ad on Craigslist and assumed the seller didn't know what they had in their possession. Perhaps an estate sale? Perhaps a gilted ex wife? I guess I didn't assume someone would plaster GTS-R all over their car for no reason. I don't get that logic. Sorry.

[OneofOneViper]

Sounds like you might know or possibly ARE the seller. That's ok. I'm not sure where I got myself in trouble. I saw an ad on Craigslist and assumed the seller didn't know what they had in their possession. Perhaps an estate sale? Perhaps a gilted ex wife?

I have no idea who the seller is to be honest. But what you're stating is just ridiculous. Anyone who has a Gen4 who added an ACR wing and splitter and changed badging---do they also need to clearly state it's not an ACR? Even if they say it's a highly customized Gen 4 viper with ACR seats, wing and splitter? He is literally telling you those are parts he added, I don't know why you think it needs to be any clearer.

[SlowPoke McGee]

I have no idea who the seller is to be honest. But what you're stating is just ridiculous. Anyone who has a Gen4 who added an ACR wing and splitter and changed badging---do they also need to clearly state it's not an ACR? Even if they say it's a highly customized Gen 4 viper with ACR seats, wing and splitter? He is literally telling you those are parts he added, I don't know why you think it needs to be any clearer.

Who changes their Gen 4 badging to say ACR when it's not? I don't get that! Why?! In most polite circles that is called being a.......wait for it....... poseur. Stolen valour. Etc

[OneofOneViper]

you said it dude, not me----Poseurs. But on the outside you can't tell the difference so people do it. I see it commonly done with ZR1 corvettes since that only takes new calipers, hood, and a super charger and then the car looks like it's worth twice as much---plus then it also has more power too with the super charger.

[SlowPoke McGee]

To be fair, most classic muscle car ads say if they are a clone or not. They are upfront in the title of their ad 9 times out of 10. I can respect that transparency. This particular ad didn't address the elephant in the room. But you're right, an expert would know that there were no GTS-R's built in 2000 so it would be a non starter.

[Stealth78]

I was thinking the same thing but I tend to be more negative than positive it seems, so I kept my mouth shut...l0l.

When did this start??? ..... Notes in calendar

[ViperTony]

Who would be dumb enough to believe that Viper is a 1998 GTSR?

[SlowPoke McGee]

Damn an actual GTS-R isn't much more and this was at Barrett Jackson

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1998-DODGE-VIPER-GTS-R-2-DOOR-COUPE-162310

[SlowPoke McGee]

Who would be dumb enough to believe that Viper is a 1998 GTSR?

No kidding. This pic should help clear it up though
http://img6a.flixcart.com/image/vehicle-pull-along/m/d/s/baby-steps-kinsmart-die-cast-metal-dodge-viper-gtsr-funny-400x400-imae5fdkvvgtwfx6.jpeg

[slitherv10]

Who changes their Gen 4 badging to say ACR when it's not? I don't get that! Why?! In most polite circles that is called being a.......wait for it....... poseur. Stolen valour. Etc

Dealers do it all the time. They call them special editions or Le or Se or whatever they decide. Its no different. An ACR is a SRT with a few extras. A TA is an SRT with a few less than that. For Collector or technical terms, of course its not an ACR but for all purposes, it could be to the person who wants it to be. Just like the guy who sits behind the desk who makes up the model editions of every car.
Or something like that. Its getting late here and its the best answer I could think of at the moment.

[slitherv10]

Time to get those glasses you have been needing.

Got the glasses...and now it looks better than your AVATAR:lol2:

[ACRSNK]

Got the glasses...and now it looks better than your AVATAR:lol2:

You must also think Mama June is hot. Lol!

[smhog]

You must also think Mama June is hot. Lol!

OMG Chris, is that what you named your new ACR? Sweet, I love the originality :)

[Boosted Motorsports]

You must also think Mama June is hot. Lol!

What is not to like?

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/mama-june-crop-1.gif

[ACRSNK]

What is not to like?

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/mama-june-crop-1.gif

I can't imagine the crop dusting that must go on in her household!!! Just puked in my mouth! Lol.

[harley56]

That's pretty sad for them to lie about it being a GTS-R. This is up there with the dolphin viper.

I can understand possible confusion by some, but sorry, nowhere did he lie, especially when seller says....Custom one of a kind 2000 Gen 2 Viper:

[Vipes]

I can understand possible confusion by some, but sorry, nowhere did he lie, especially when seller says....Custom one of a kind 2000 Gen 2 Viper:

To me it's a lie when you put the emblems on since you're trying to fool everyone, regardless of selling the car or not. It's a lame thing to do.

[OneofOneViper]

To me it's a lie when you put the emblems on since you're trying to fool everyone, regardless of selling the car or not. It's a lame thing to do.

I will disagree with that statement all day long. If someone tries to make a TA viper now they can make everything except the badging using the options given in the GTC viper. So if they buy the stickers afterwards and put the sticker on, that's a lie? I doubt they are trying to lie to anymore, just letting people know what they made.

[harley56]

[QUOTE=Vipes;285574]To me it's a lie when you put the emblems on since you're trying to fool everyone, regardless of selling the car or not. It's a lame thing to do.[/QU

We can agree to disagree, I'm simply saying I do not believe he is trying to lie, or mislead. OneofOneViper gets it in the same way I do. When you list it as a 2000 Viper and a one of a kind, that's not trying to tell anybody it's a Viper GTSR 1 pf 100. I agree, he could have stated, 1998 VIPER GTSR paint yes, but I simply don't believe he is trying to represent it as such.

[SlowPoke McGee]

Haven't you ever seen an M badge on a BMW? :smilielol:
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Like this?
http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp350/ausbayern/Fake_ME90.jpg

[SlowPoke McGee]

To me it's a lie when you put the emblems on since you're trying to fool everyone, regardless of selling the car or not. It's a lame thing to do.

This ^^^^^

[SlowPoke McGee]

[QUOTE=Vipes;285574]To me it's a lie when you put the emblems on since you're trying to fool everyone, regardless of selling the car or not. It's a lame thing to do.[/QU

We can agree to disagree, I'm simply saying I do not believe he is trying to lie, or mislead. OneofOneViper gets it in the same way I do. When you list it as a 2000 Viper and a one of a kind, that's not trying to tell anybody it's a Viper GTSR 1 pf 100. I agree, he could have stated, 1998 VIPER GTSR paint yes, but I simply don't believe he is trying to represent it as such.

There are literally dozens of websites dedicated to mocking and ridiculing "fake car badgers". Like this one: (Now, there's an obvious argument as to why this type of "re-badging" is a horrible idea, and that is: it makes you look like an idiot).http://jalopnik.com/for-god-s-sake-please-stop-putting-fake-badges-on-your-1646744902

I think the take away point in all of this is that fake badges are for chumps. Can we agree on this?

[BrianACR]

[QUOTE=harley56;285589]

There are literally dozens of websites dedicated to mocking and ridiculing "fake car badgers". Like this one: (Now, there's an obvious argument as to why this type of "re-badging" is a horrible idea, and that is: it makes you look like an idiot).http://jalopnik.com/for-god-s-sake-please-stop-putting-fake-badges-on-your-1646744902

I think the take away point in all of this is that fake badges are for chumps. Can we agree on this?

Hahahahaha!!! That article is awesome!!! And so true too!!
And yes SlowPoke, definitely agree that fake badges are for chumps.

[slitherv10]

You must also think Mama June is hot. Lol!


Not quite but i do know that the wing will hold her and you up together.:lol2: