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mak1118
01-17-2017, 08:39 PM
Say you buy a car from out of state and it takes the transport company 2 weeks to pick the car up. How are you protected that the car is the same condition when it is picked up? Is there some way that I am protected against the car not getting on the transport in the same condition, does the dealer do a written check before it gets on the transport, does the transport company check the vehicle out?

Special Ed
01-17-2017, 08:53 PM
Say you buy a car from out of state and it takes the transport company 2 weeks to pick the car up. How are you protected that the car is the same condition when it is picked up? Is there some way that I am protected against the car not getting on the transport in the same condition, does the dealer do a written check before it gets on the transport, does the transport company check the vehicle out?

Both will examine the car, any deficiencies will be noted and photographed. These notes and photos should be transmitted to you. You use these for comparison at delivery and anything not noted is the responsibility of the transporter.

bluesrt
01-17-2017, 10:12 PM
Call frank barber and you should not worry

7TH_SIGN
01-18-2017, 08:43 AM
I purchased my Viper out of state sight unseen and transported. My transport company caught a decent amount of "overlooked" damage by Palmer Dodge in Georgia. Small chipped paint, scratches, and a broken rear third brake light. They noted the flaws on their documentation and Palmer Dodge had to sign it agreeing to the pre pickup damage.

Any reputable transport company will follow this protocol as they dont want to be blamed for any damage they did not cause.

Donato
01-18-2017, 08:49 AM
When purchasing a car from out of state, say from a private individual, what is the protocol for sales tax? I've read you pay the sales tax when you register the car with DMV in your home state based on the sale price, is that correct? Is there any way around that?

mak1118
01-18-2017, 08:58 AM
When purchasing a car from out of state, say from a private individual, what is the protocol for sales tax? I've read you pay the sales tax when you register the car with DMV in your home state based on the sale price, is that correct? Is there any way around that?

I was told the out of state dealer can charge the tax from your state.

Donato
01-18-2017, 09:11 AM
I was told the out of state dealer can charge the tax from your state.

Yes I read that too, I was asking about a private party sale?

OneofOneViper
01-18-2017, 09:22 AM
When purchasing a car from out of state, say from a private individual, what is the protocol for sales tax? I've read you pay the sales tax when you register the car with DMV in your home state based on the sale price, is that correct? Is there any way around that?

What you read is correct. Some places like Las Vegas don't make you pay sales tax for private party sales if the car is selling for less than what the original owner paid for it. Other than that, you pay tax based on what your bill of sale price states. So, I'll let you determine how you can manipulate that situation.

viperBase1
01-18-2017, 09:22 AM
Yes I read that too, I was asking about a private party sale?
And of course they pay the tax to YOUR state. You should be able to negotiate to keep it off the invoice.
Gets paid to your state either way.

AZTVR
01-18-2017, 09:48 AM
When purchasing a car from out of state, say from a private individual, what is the protocol for sales tax? I've read you pay the sales tax when you register the car with DMV in your home state based on the sale price, is that correct? Is there any way around that?


Donato, the answer depends on the laws of the state you live in and where you buy for. Some answers above appear to me to be not correct for all states. Some places use some kind of calculation to determine sales tax rather than "Bill of sale" price because they have figured out how to get around people gaming the system. I believe that California charges sales tax on a private party sale even if the buyer is from out of state when the car is delivered in-state. If it is delivered out of state, it does not charge tax. This is from my research when considering buying a car there. I'd like to hear from someone that has actually done this, though, with a California private seller. I can imagine there are a wide variety of laws.

texasram
01-18-2017, 10:28 AM
Say you buy a car from out of state and it takes the transport company 2 weeks to pick the car up. How are you protected that the car is the same condition when it is picked up? Is there some way that I am protected against the car not getting on the transport in the same condition, does the dealer do a written check before it gets on the transport, does the transport company check the vehicle out?

Im in texas and had mine transported from massachusetts, from pick up to delivery took all off 2 days, thurs evening to sat morning, i had the dealer take pic of odo and body condition, after all said and done i deffinetly recommend Best west trans. But just like anything else you cant be afraid to communicate with the dealer and ask them what you would like to have done

Bill Pemberton
01-18-2017, 11:25 AM
Tons of misinformation here guys, as you need to check with your own DMV/Courthouse, in your State and find out the correct procedure. Many States will not charge you if you are from another State , but that is not always the case. Some States charge different with a purchase from an individual, but blanket statements can cause you issues later , so always best to check with your own State and not to take everything here as gospel.

mak1118
01-18-2017, 11:45 AM
Tons of misinformation here guys, as you need to check with your own DMV/Courthouse, in your State and find out the correct procedure. Many States will not charge you if you are from another State , but that is not always the case. Some States charge different with a purchase from an individual, but blanket statements can cause you issues later , so always best to check with your own State and not to take everything here as gospel.

Thanks Bill, just checked with my dmv in AZ and they said the dealer in Texas can charge me tax and do the registration and plates also. The car is a 2016 and its been sitting at this dealership for quite a while, anything I should ask or have checked? Also I was thinking about hiring wegolook.com.... what do you think?

Bill Pemberton
01-18-2017, 11:48 AM
They might be able to charge you , but most States/Dealers will not do registration and plates in another State, it is usually the customers responsibility. If it is new and been sitting there for quite awhile then ask about scratches , whether folks were allowed to get in and out of it, test drives, etc.

mak1118
01-18-2017, 11:54 AM
They might be able to charge you , but most States/Dealers will not do registration and plates in another State, it is usually the customers responsibility. If it is new and been sitting there for quite awhile then ask about scratches , whether folks were allowed to get in and out of it, test drives, etc.

They said the car has no scratches and there is only 24 miles on it. If I have the car checked by a service and then when the transport picks it up they said they take pictures and check the car over but when it gets here there are damages that were not there when I had the car checked.... what would I be able to do then? Say something happens between the time the car is checked and the transport picks it up, then what?

Bill Pemberton
01-18-2017, 11:59 AM
Then it would come back on the Transport company in all likelihood. Call me if you want ?

1-402-677-5864 billpemberton@woodhouse.com

biturboamg
01-18-2017, 05:05 PM
Yup same happend with me and Palmer. DONT BUY from them!!! Lucky for me the shipping guys were super cool guys and had pics at the dealership showing said damage that Sean and dealer denied and blamed on shipper but they also gave me a copy of the pick up form showing all the damage on the car and imagine that it was signed off on by Sean himself! I have done about 12 deals sight unseen with not one issue with dealers all over and this dealer was a joke and a nightmare to work with from Sean in sales to Dustin the manger and Jody Cruce the owner. Yes you can get some money back in a case like this but doesnt help with your time and effort when they could be honest up front, discount the car for the issues or just fix them before they send it!

Always a few bad dealers ruin it for good dealers who stand by their word and are honest.



I purchased my Viper out of state sight unseen and transported. My transport company caught a decent amount of "overlooked" damage by Palmer Dodge in Georgia. Small chipped paint, scratches, and a broken rear third brake light. They noted the flaws on their documentation and Palmer Dodge had to sign it agreeing to the pre pickup damage.

Any reputable transport company will follow this protocol as they dont want to be blamed for any damage they did not cause.

Vegaskid
01-18-2017, 10:34 PM
Thanks Bill, just checked with my dmv in AZ and they said the dealer in Texas can charge me tax and do the registration and plates also. The car is a 2016 and its been sitting at this dealership for quite a while, anything I should ask or have checked? Also I was thinking about hiring wegolook.com.... what do you think?

I would ask somebody on the forum to possibly see if they would go take a look for you. Most would be happy to and my guess is that more knowledgeable people reside on the forum than 3rd party inspectors.

Good luck..

mak1118
01-19-2017, 01:30 AM
I would ask somebody on the forum to possibly see if they would go take a look for you. Most would be happy to and my guess is that more knowledgeable people reside on the forum than 3rd party inspectors.

Good luck..

I opened a new thread earlier but so far no luck.

7TH_SIGN
01-19-2017, 09:56 AM
Yup same happend with me and Palmer. DONT BUY from them!!! Lucky for me the shipping guys were super cool guys and had pics at the dealership showing said damage that Sean and dealer denied and blamed on shipper but they also gave me a copy of the pick up form showing all the damage on the car and imagine that it was signed off on by Sean himself! I have done about 12 deals sight unseen with not one issue with dealers all over and this dealer was a joke and a nightmare to work with from Sean in sales to Dustin the manger and Jody Cruz the owner. Yes you can get some money back in a case like this but doesnt help with your time and effort when they could be honest up front, discount the car for the issues or just fix them before they send it!

Always a few bad dealers ruin it for good dealers who stand by their word and are honest.

My experience with them mirrors yours brother. Learned a lot from it. Dealing with Sean was a nightmare. If I could go back and do it all over again I would definitely go with a dealer on this forums.

swexlin
01-19-2017, 10:13 AM
Call Bill P at Woodhouse. Buy a car from him. He'll ship it to your driveway. I, and many others, have done this. You won't regret it.

Problem solved!

Steve-Indy
01-19-2017, 01:58 PM
swexlin is right on...call Bill P...arrange per phone...car arrives at your house and paperwork takes less that 10 minutes. No damage, no B.S., no wasting hours, no hassle !!

mak1118
01-19-2017, 03:03 PM
swexlin is right on...call Bill P...arrange per phone...car arrives at your house and paperwork takes less that 10 minutes. No damage, no B.S., no wasting hours, no hassle !!

I would like to be able to buy a car from Bill but I have a limited budget and his cars are above that limited budget....

mak1118
01-19-2017, 03:10 PM
General Manager sent me pictures but I can't tell from all the glare so I placed an order to have wegolook check the car out and take pictures... hopeful they will get it done by this weekend and I will get the pictures and the report back on Monday. Got a feeling that someone else is looking at the car and could get bought before I can even see the pictures.....:)

swexlin
01-19-2017, 03:18 PM
I would like to be able to buy a car from Bill but I have a limited budget and his cars are above that limited budget....

Factor in your shipping costs from a big transport company......I bet Bill might be able to beat that as well. Just sayin'...it's worth a phone call to him.

mak1118
01-19-2017, 03:38 PM
Factor in your shipping costs from a big transport company......I bet Bill might be able to beat that as well. Just sayin'...it's worth a phone call to him.

The guy is giving me a a really good price plus I have a '95 viper and a '16 conv Z06 so my funds and my garage space is limited..I have talked to Bill a couple times and he's a really nice guy but I just can't spend that much. I had a guy from Michigan offer me a '16 gts at $12k under msrp and he would ship it to me for free, I told him if he could get it down $7k more I would be interested. If I was just buying the viper and didn't have any other cars I could buy what I want but I'm attached to the '95(original owner) and I really like the Z06 so for me to get a third car the price has to be right.

Donato
01-19-2017, 04:14 PM
Ha! I wish I could afford both but what is your experience on the Gen-5 Viper vs. the Z06. I don't want to hijack your thread so you can just PM me the response, thanks.

swexlin
01-19-2017, 04:25 PM
The guy is giving me a a really good price plus I have a '95 viper and a '16 conv Z06 so my funds and my garage space is limited..I have talked to Bill a couple times and he's a really nice guy but I just can't spend that much. I had a guy from Michigan offer me a '16 gts at $12k under msrp and he would ship it to me for free, I told him if he could get it down $7k more I would be interested. If I was just buying the viper and didn't have any other cars I could buy what I want but I'm attached to the '95(original owner) and I really like the Z06 so for me to get a third car the price has to be right.

Understood. Nice stable you have already, then, and are just adding to it.

serpent
01-19-2017, 04:52 PM
The guy is giving me a a really good price plus I have a '95 viper and a '16 conv Z06 so my funds and my garage space is limited..I have talked to Bill a couple times and he's a really nice guy but I just can't spend that much. I had a guy from Michigan offer me a '16 gts at $12k under msrp and he would ship it to me for free, I told him if he could get it down $7k more I would be interested. If I was just buying the viper and didn't have any other cars I could buy what I want but I'm attached to the '95(original owner) and I really like the Z06 so for me to get a third car the price has to be right.
I noticed the Vipers from the known Viper dealers are a bit more money. Some of them are used and they are charging new prices.
I would go your route too. GJ.

mak1118
01-19-2017, 05:28 PM
Ha! I wish I could afford both but what is your experience on the Gen-5 Viper vs. the Z06. I don't want to hijack your thread so you can just PM me the response, thanks.

I can tell you the Z06 is a great car, fast as hell, seats are very comfortable.... I test drove a '15 gt and to be honest the Z06 was nicer and faster but I like the viper. Couldn't care less about Dodge or Chrysler just like the viper.
I hardly drive my '95 viper, its not really that enjoyable but I love the way it looks mainly from the rear and sides but not the front. I will post a couple pictures of each if I can figure out how to do it.

mak1118
01-19-2017, 05:36 PM
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01-19-2017, 05:38 PM
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mak1118
01-19-2017, 05:41 PM
Understood. Nice stable you have already, then, and are just adding to it.

I have the '95 up for sale but don't know for sure if I will sell it. I traded the '95 in for the Z06 but when I went home I felt sick about it so I went back and made them rewrite the deal and took my buddy back home....lol

serpent
01-19-2017, 06:49 PM
Lol mak, where in Az are you located?

mak1118
01-19-2017, 07:08 PM
Lol mak, where in Az are you located?

Mesa

Donato
01-19-2017, 07:21 PM
Mesa, you here?

Ha! I was just going to say your house looks very similar to the houses in my neighborhood but I'm over in Chandler. Nice cars BTW.

mak1118
01-19-2017, 08:00 PM
Ha! I was just going to say your house looks very similar to the houses in my neighborhood but I'm over in Chandler. Nice cars BTW.

Thanks, I'm by Usery Pass if you know where that is, by the mountain that has Phoenix written on it.

Donato
01-19-2017, 08:24 PM
Thanks, I'm by Usery Pass if you know where that is, by the mountain that has Phoenix written on it, I'm near there.

Yes, I used to shoot Tuesday Night Steel over at Rio Salado but I haven't been since I last moved.

aspman
01-21-2017, 12:47 PM
Willie the P will hook you up!

serpent
01-21-2017, 07:31 PM
The real question is for those buying out of state:
is it worth putting extra miles driving back (saving a couple grand) or just getting it shipped with 1-2-3k miles less but spending more?
For me it's a tough decision!

darbgnik
01-22-2017, 01:09 AM
The real question is for those buying out of state:
is it worth putting extra miles driving back (saving a couple grand) or just getting it shipped with 1-2-3k miles less but spending more?
For me it's a tough decision!

I've done both. To me it depends on the drive route, whether I'm interested in it, and whether I have time or not. The miles aren't a consideration for me on any car, I buy em to drive em.