The Last Hurah KING OF THE RING

[FLATOUT]

Our beloved Viper has set 13 track records in the US. Let’s go back to the Ring and re-take the ultimate international crown as we sail into the sunset.

In September, 2011, the Viper ACR became the "Ring King" when Dominik Farnbacher set the production car lap record at 7:12:13. Years later, the Porsche 918 took the title (with battery power assistance). Let's make our final statement and take Back The Ring.

You can help!

ViperExchange will supply (free) two Viper ACR Extremes plus two internationally-known Viper drivers who consider The Ring their home track. It will cost between $150,000 and $200,000 to send the cars, pay for the track, the supplies, and operating expenses. This is strictly a volunteer operation and your contribution will fund only the expenses. Whether you can contribute $10,000 or $100, every little bit helps.

All contributors over $250 will have their names listed on a commemorative poster. Anyone who contributes $10,000 or more is invited to join us in Germany to witness the attempt(s). We'd like to do this in April, 2017. If we are unable to raise the required funds, your money will be refunded (minus the small Go Fund Me fees). We all love the Viper. Let's go out on top.

www.gofundme.com/take-back-the-ring-record

Additional details will be released as we move forward but this is OUR opportunity to control Vipers destiny, and OUR opportunity to see it go out on top like it came into the world back in 1992.

Andy

[Policy Limits]

That's cool

[1.8t]

This isn't pretty damn cool.

[Lawrenzo]

Just curious as to the color combo you're going to use so I can buy them all up in advance:United_States:

[ACR Steve]

I am in

[FLATOUT]

I am in

Hell yeah.

[ViperGTS]

I might be on the fence and watch - if it is not snowing. Good luck!

[serpent]

Damn that is fucking bad ass!!!!

Would be pretty funny if just 1 rich person donated $300k and requested his/her name be anonymous.
The extra $100k would be for parts and luxuries for the drivers/crews.

[Rapidrezults]

Long live the king! I am so in!

[FLATOUT]

Long live the king! I am so in!

My Dawg.

[Murpowa]

This is awesome! Over 5 grand in just three hours, wow. Nice job setting this up Andy!

[SilveRT8]

Damn that is fucking bad ass!!!!

Would be pretty funny if just 1 rich person donated $300k and requested his/her name be anonymous.
The extra $100k would be for parts and luxuries for the drivers/crews.

You must be one of the Drivers or Crew ??

[FLATOUT]

This is awesome! Over 5 grand in just three hours, wow. Nice job setting this up Andy!

Appreciate that but for the record I had nothing to do with setting this up, just doing my best to get the word out. Bernie and another long time great Viper Club member got the ball rolling along with Ben Keating.

[slowhatch]

So badass! Lets get it done, definitely kicking in!

http://i.imgur.com/JYAVWj7.gif

[serpent]

You must be one of the Drivers or Crew ??
Fuck no, I mean it would give them incentive to want to help out. I'm sure these guys (drivers and crew) are stand up gents that would do it just because they are bonifide car guys and track sluts! lol

[FLATOUT]

So badass! Lets get it done, definitely kicking in!

http://i.imgur.com/JYAVWj7.gif

Yes Sir!!!

[rw99]

I'm in!

[str5010]

It's awesome that this kind of thing has a chance to happen because the club has a voice. Thank you to all involved. I'll be stopping by the donation page tomorrow morning.

[FLATOUT]

Up to $6,365 already.

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I'm in!

Thanks Rich!

[LABrit]

Does it not have to be set by the manufacturer directly under certain rules? Would it be an officially recognised time how you're doing it? Great idea - love it!

[ViperTony]

I will contribute, thanks for this Andy/VE!!!!

[SilveRT8]

I'm in, put my name on the poster !

[FLATOUT]

Does it not have to be set by the manufacturer directly under certain rules? Would it be an officially recognised time how you're doing it? Great idea - love it!

It does not, the 2010 record was lead by VE. 2 cars straight from the showroom floor funded entirely by Ben Keating.

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I'm in, put my name on the poster !

Grately appreciated.

[FLATOUT]

I will contribute, thanks for this Andy/VE!!!!

Thanks Tony.:)

[TheStig]

You should take one stock ACR-E and one with heads and cam and see what that does too! I'm sure it would be about 5/10 seconds faster!

[q8blueviper]

cant want to see its lap time , will be there if its became official !


this event deserves all the support ! and im sure it will take Back The Ring

Top 100 Nürburgring Lap Times : https://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100/

[Fatboy 18]

Donated :)

Also pasted this on the UK Pistonheads website to try and drum up new business :)

[str5010]

Donation made, thanks again and let's see a sub 7 minute lap!

[Topplayer]

look at the comment on the go fund me!
"Hello everyone, want to do a new record set at the Nurburgring with the all new ACR Extreme. Well, easy, I have one at my place, I live in a Belgium. We will just need the same driver or someone else to drive my car. I will personally let the driver set the record with my Viper. I will help to spent less money to all of you."

[FLATOUT]

Over 7,000$ keep it up!

[commandomatt]

How long will the 'go fund me' be active. In other words, how much time are you allowing to try to get the money needed ?

It definitely has to be stock cars. Forget about the modified as that will not have the same impact

[Canadian venom]

Donated as well, can't wait to see the results !!!

[viperBase1]

... and one with heads and cam and see what that does too!

Already a BONA FIDE SUPERCAR, there is nothing more to prove.
We do this to further solidify a well earned legacy!
BRING HOME THE RING!

This is all I had to do to get my name on a bitchin poster? Done. (now $7,780 :dude3:)

This is gonna be epic! :fpopcorn: :fpopcorn:

[ViperJon]

I'm in.

Andy consider taking my GTS-R.

Everyone wants to see what a VE modified car can do - go for it!

No they don't.
That time would be dismissed outright as it was run by a clearly modified car and would have zero weight in the record book.
The Viper ACR-E has enough trouble being recognized as a stock factory car as it is. A modified cars time would be meaningless.

[texasram]

Better than the Veyron's last hurah with the SS, "yayyyy we can still go in a straight line"!

[Snorman]

It would have weight in my book - my car my money!

My mistake - ok not everyone forgot how many people love to piss in / on every thread.
Yeah, but he's not wrong. For those that use the N-ring as a barometer of track performance a modified car's time means nothing, even if it has value to you.
S.

[slowhatch]

I wouldn't want a modified car even sitting in the same parking lot as the record attempt vehicles for fear of mucking the validity of the results by naysayers.

[ViperGeorge]

This is great. Thanks to VE for attempting to get this going. Realistically what time would an ACR-E be expected to put down on a clean dry track? And what is the current production car record?

[Resident Alien]

Donated. Have been waiting for this a long time. Good luck, guys!

[commandomatt]

It would have weight in my book - my car my money!

My mistake - ok not everyone forgot how many people love to piss in / on every thread.

Well, this is not about you at all. Set up your own go fund me thread and I am sure you would get all the support you need :iamwithstupid:

In the meantime, let's keep this thread on track and make it about 'The ACR-E' as opposed to some ego trip

[FLATOUT]

Yeah, but he's not wrong. For those that use the N-ring as a barometer of track performance a modified car's time means nothing, even if it has value to you.
S.


I wouldn't want a modified car even sitting in the same parking lot as the record attempt vehicles for fear of mucking the validity of the results by naysayers.

This, this, and this again. Bone stock cars straight from the VE floor. PERIOD. Just like the 2010 record setter.

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Donated. Have been waiting for this a long time. Good luck, guys!

Awesome! Thanks for the support!

Andy

[rw99]

This is great. Thanks to VE for attempting to get this going. Realistically what time would an ACR-E be expected to put down on a clean dry track? And what is the current production car record?

...not to derail the thread, but consider that the current ACR-E knocked about 5 seconds off the Gen IV ACR record at Laguna Seca, and was 1.24 seconds faster than a 918. And that's on a 1:30ish lap scale. Not sure how accurately that would scale to a 7 minute lap scale at the 'Ring, but there's good reason for optimism.


Rich

[commandomatt]

Andy,

How long will the 'go fund me' be active. In other words, how much time are you allowing to try to get the money needed ?

[Martin2000GTS]

I'm in for $250. Gonna see if I can scrounge up some more in the coming weeks. Also our New England crew is going to send the message out to all our members tonight!. All presidents get the word out!

[TwinVipers]

The 2010 ACR X ran the ring in 7:03. With better brakes, gearing, aero, and similar weight/hp ratio, the new ACR E should and will get a sub 7 min lap!:dude3:

[Space Truckin]

Wow - just thought it would be fun to have a time on a modified VE.

Few guys here are big on pixie dust.


^^^ Totally off base^^^ Ring records are about "stock" cars :slap:

[viperBase1]

Cleaned up my earlier post above.
My apologies. I didn't know. :slap:

[Kurt]

Definitely in! Thanks to VE for trying to make this happen. Would love to be there!

[Snakebit10]

...not to derail the thread, but consider that the current ACR-E knocked about 5 seconds off the Gen IV ACR record at Laguna Seca, and was 1.24 seconds faster than a 918. And that's on a 1:30ish lap scale. Not sure how accurately that would scale to a 7 minute lap scale at the 'Ring, but there's good reason for optimism.


Rich

Yeah I concur only thing to worry about is the seconds it will lose to the 918 on that long back straight with a 177mph top speed. That's assuming it will hit 177mph since part of that back straight is slightly uphill if I remember correctly. I think it will have such a lead on the 918 through the rest of the track that it should negate the seconds it will lose on that straight. Either way I think it will be a sub 7 min time.

[ViperJon]

The 2010 ACR X ran the ring in 7:03. With better brakes, gearing, aero, and similar weight/hp ratio, the new ACR E should and will get a sub 7 min lap!:dude3:

Would have to beat 6:57 actually. The Porsche 918 Spyder is a legit factory car, the two Radical's are not.

[Space Truckin]

I am in...Bad MF'r just helped out....:drive:

[ACR_VP]

I posted it to reddit because I find this fascinating... I'm also guessing the 200k doesn't cover all the costs completely and Viper Exchange is making up the rest by selling the cars after the fact?

If you want this to be easier, reword the gofundme page to be a bit more patriotic, or rather inclusive of the chevy/ford guys, saying we are taking it back for 'murica, and you can share it on their various forums, blog sites, etc.

EDIT: I'll be away from my pc a while, but I posted it to reddit and sent a message to Doug DeMuro for some more exposure.

[stradman]

Has anyone done the math yet, based on previous acr and currents track exploits so far, to see if it is indeed feasible to get under the 918's time? It would be tremendous if it was possible!

[TwinVipers]

Would have to beat 6:57 actually. The Porsche 918 Spyder is a legit factory car, the two Radical's are not.

That's correct, the 918 is the one to beat! I'm just using the ACR X's time as comparison since it was also rated at 640hp, had better tires and is comparable to the current car.

[One Viper Bite]

This is amazing!

Anyone have contacts at Jalopnik or a big publication like R&T or Motor Trend?

The Viper community is generous, but don't think we can do it alone. I think the rest of the car enthusiast world would kill to see this too.

Let's get more eyes on this!

[str5010]

I sent it to someone who writes for road and track.

[Heysie]

Would it be stupid of me to fund this? Because now I still can say that I own the fastest N'ring Viper...:t0135:

[ViperGeorge]

Would it be stupid of me to fund this? Because now I still can say that I own the fastest N'ring Viper...:t0135:

Not stupid at all. It just gives you a reason to upgrade to a new ACR.

[Bmw2nv2000]

Yeah but its a "Special Edition" and worth twice what any other ACR-E is worth!!!! Once again ACR Extreme you show your noob status to the viper community. The ring is always set with a bone stock car to be eligble for the legendary king of the ring title.



Well, this is not about you at all. Set up your own go fund me thread and I am sure you would get all the support you need :iamwithstupid:

In the meantime, let's keep this thread on track and make it about 'The ACR-E' as opposed to some ego trip

[FLATOUT]

Thanks again everyone for the support. I will find out how long the account will stay up but I would say that it's not coming down anytime soon. As for cross posts and broader apeal please by all means get this seen anywhere that you can.

Andy

[Fatboy 18]

I might be on the fence and watch - if it is not snowing. Good luck!I will pop over and join you if we can confirm the actual dates :)

[VIPER BAZ UK]

Shared on the UK and Euro Viper FB Pages .....


BEST OF LUCK!!!!!!!!! REALLY REALLY HOPE THIS HAPPENS!!!!!!!

[Memphis]

Reaching out to Kumho about providing some tires would relieve some of the monetary load, this would be some great press for them and their tires.

[VIPER BAZ UK]

Ill be in next week pay day... Get my Poster ready please!!!!

[Resident Alien]

Quick question: since rainfall on the event day(s) would render this great effort pretty much irrelevant, has rain insurance been considered? A quick online search indicated it typically costs between 2% and 10% of the amount insured. It would be nice to get another shot at the record if the chosen day gets rained out.

[ViperDC]

...not to derail the thread, but consider that the current ACR-E knocked about 5 seconds off the Gen IV ACR record at Laguna Seca, and was 1.24 seconds faster than a 918. And that's on a 1:30ish lap scale. Not sure how accurately that would scale to a 7 minute lap scale at the 'Ring, but there's good reason for optimism.


Rich

Yeah but it has really long straights as well. That wing will be killing the Viper.


Hope this happens! Would be awesome to follow

[ek1]

+$300.

Lets do this people!

[ACR Steve]

damn it better be a big poster :)

easily beat a 6:57 my bet is 6:54 or better

[DZnutz]

all you guys throwing in $250 do you think your name will be on the poster? It clearly says anything OVER $250, so $250 does not qualify but $250.01 does

[IndyRon]

Anyone talk to the couple that owns 70+ Vipers? Even if they donated 100k, if the Viper would take the ring time back, the value of all their Vipers would likely increase incrementally enough to more than recover their investment! :dude3:

[TwinVipers]

damn it better be a big poster :)

easily beat a 6:57 my bet is 6:54 or better

Curious to know why you think the new ACR E is going to be ~ 10 sec faster than the ACRX? Anything under 7 mins would be awesome!!

[ACRucrazy]

Picked up by R&T

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/news/a32347/dodge-viper-nurburgring-record-gofundme/

[bluesrt]

Anyone talk to the couple that owns 70+ Vipers? Even if they donated 100k, if the Viper would take the ring time back, the value of all their Vipers would likely increase incrementally enough to more than recover their investment! :dude3:

good thinkin there

[FLATOUT]

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/news/a32347/dodge-viper-nurburgring-record-gofundme/

And it just made Road and Track!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ACRucrazy]

Anyone know how the transmission/3.55s will play on the Ring?

[slowhatch]

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/news/a32347/dodge-viper-nurburgring-record-gofundme/

And it just made Road and Track!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm pressuring one of the editors at Jalopnik that I know personally to do the same. Its a hard sell though to push anything with crowdfunding agenda. Maybe this R&T first step will help push them over the edge.

[Quiui]

OK, one more to the list. $255

[FLATOUT]

I'm pressuring one of the editors at Jalopnik that I know personally to do the same. Its a hard sell though to push anything with crowdfunding agenda. Maybe this R&T first step will help push them over the edge.

Really appreciate that Alex! Keep it up :)


OK, one more to the list. $255

Excellent! Thank you!

[Jprince]

I'm in for $300

[FLATOUT]

I'm in for $300

Texas Bringin' it!

And we are now over $16,000 in a very short period of time :)

[Peter99GTS]

I'm in one more $251

[darbgnik]

Screw it, I'm in too. Can't miss out on an opportunity to be a part of history. In for just over $250

Converted to the current Canadian Peso, my meager donation is like a million dollars. lol

[FLATOUT]

Even the Canadians getting in on the action! BOOM!

[commandomatt]

This is the most exciting thread since the ACRE was introduced !!!

[SmoknTires]

This would indeed be wonderful if we could achieve it! Exciting stuff!

[bigmacsmallfries]

If all goes well, the fastest lap time that could be achieved is 6:53 with the ACR. This is based off the difference in times between the 918 Spyder and the ACR on some of the 13 tracks they've both been on. Hope the track is dry and it's warm out when the attempt is made.

[My98RT10]

Awesome! Hope this endeavour can be realised, will definitely go there to watch in person. Also hope, that a nice documentation movie is part of the plan ;-)

[Rapidrezults]

The donations were climbing steadily and then went down by about $5000 for some reason. Anyone know why?

[Fatboy 18]

The donations were climbing steadily and then went down by about $5000 for some reason. Anyone know why?

Strange? I just noticed that too! It was at over $16,000 now its at 13.000?

[Fatboy 18]

Well I forwarded the story to the Heads of the UK Pistonheads website and its now front page there too :dude3: :United_States::United_Kingdom:

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-americancars/support-a-viper-ring-lap-record-attempt/35615

[FLATOUT]

The donations were climbing steadily and then went down by about $5000 for some reason. Anyone know why?

Saw the same thing, I'll check when I get in to the office this morning.

[ACRucrazy]

Saw the same thing, I'll check when I get in to the office this morning.

The very first donation from Russ of 5,000$ is no longer showing.

[Murpowa]

The very first donation from Russ of 5,000$ is no longer showing.

Yeah...that's shady

[Coloviper]

Maybe he meant to put in $500 and slipped up? Ether way, it should not hurt what everyone is trying to do. Go get it boys!

[Wheelman]

So hypothetically if one were to fund the entire trip would they be able to keep 1 of the 2 vipers used? :)

[Snorman]

So hypothetically if one were to fund the entire trip would they be able to keep 1 of the 2 vipers used? :)If that were the case then VE would simply fund the trip themselves.
S.

[commandomatt]

VE should offer up the cars for sale at this time. Highest bidder over a set $ amount. Paid in full, in advance

There may be some collectors that would like to own a possible record breaking car and would be willing to pay a premium for it

This could really put some $ into the fund

Of course, could be tricky in case there is an accident and damage to a car

[Fatboy 18]

Next VOA Door Prize car? :drive:

[Vprbite]

Anyone talk to the couple that owns 70+ Vipers? Even if they donated 100k, if the Viper would take the ring time back, the value of all their Vipers would likely increase incrementally enough to more than recover their investment! :dude3:

I get your thinking, but I don't think they could give a shit about the value of their Vipers. I could see them donating money but not because of the value of their cars, more just to be a part of making it happen. If I had the money I feel like I would donate 100k or so. I'd like to think I would.

[ACR08]

I'm in!!! I really hope we can make this happen. I believe the Viper can break the record and even if it doesn't it's important to try. It would be a shame not to try. Those long straights and limited top speed because of the areo have me worried. I'm sure the experts think it's possible or we wouldn't be making the effort.

[Fatboy 18]

64 Donations so far, come on everyone, even if you throw in one tank of Gas it moves it in the right direction :)

[DZnutz]

so what went wrong with the russ donation?

[Kurt]

so what went wrong with the russ donation?

It's back, plus another $10K from a very generous donor. Russ is a stand up guy. Let's make this happen!

[Fatboy 18]

so what went wrong with the russ donation?

No Idea but its back in there now and some other big players have added some too OVER 30K NOW! :dude3:

[Murpowa]

Some morning thoughts over coffee; any potential in reaching out to Ralph Gilles or Mark Trostle to see what they could stir up? Also, might be worth reaching out to a company like GoPro. I absolutely see this right up their alley as far as publicity for their latest camera and drone. Happy to help in any way

[bkrone]

Some morning thoughts over coffee; any potential in reaching out to Ralph Gilles or Mark Trostle to see what they could stir up? Also, might be worth reaching out to a company like GoPro. I absolutely see this right up their alley as far as publicity for their latest camera and drone. Happy to help in any way

I'm sure they have seen it by now. GoPro would donate cameras, no money so not much help. Also their drone is grounded at the moment due to faulty software/hardware.

[Donato]

I don't even own a Viper yet but I'm in for $50, that should cover a tank a fuel for the cause.

[Murpowa]

I'm sure they have seen it by now. GoPro would donate cameras, no money so not much help. Also their drone is grounded at the moment due to faulty software/hardware.

They do video series all the time, probably a good opportunity for them to use their VR camera. Seems like its worth a shot to ask.

https://vr.gopro.com/

[Fatboy 18]

Or contact Kodak with their 360 action cams. Ive got one and its great :)
https://kodakpixpro.com/Americas/company/contact.php

[viperBase1]

They do video series all the time, probably a good opportunity for them to use their VR camera. Seems like its worth a shot to ask.
https://vr.gopro.com/

Hmmm..

Yesterday I had lunch with a GoPro Software Eng. (a very good friend of mine). :cool:
Was telling him a little bit about the Viper I'm buying (The SneakySnake!).

He 'tol me that GoPro just bought a company called "DashWare"..which does telemetry/data acquisition (incl. racing)..and they're integrating it into a new GoPro camera.
Here's a link to their webby: http://www.dashware.net/

All of our GoPro videos should be looking something like this (soon):
22426

My friend also indicated he works with a number of gear heads..apparently there's a few exotic supercars in the GoPro parking lot.

I didn't mention "The ACR Ring" event to him. BUT I WILL NOW. :dude3:
We'll float the notification of this event up through the GoPro software engineering department (from the inside), and fingers firmly crossed it gets in front of the right eyes soon.

[Tomball-Dodge]

Hmmm..

Yesterday I had lunch with a GoPro Software Eng. (a very good friend of mine). :cool:
Was telling him a little bit about the Viper I'm buying (The SneakySnake!).

He 'tol me that GoPro just bought a company called "DashWare"..which does telemetry/data acquisition (incl. racing)..and their integrating it into a new GoPro camera.
Here's a link to their webby: http://www.dashware.net/

All of our GoPro videos should be looking something like this (soon):
22426

My friend also indicated he works with a number of gear heads..apparently there's a few exotic supercars in the GoPro parking lot.

I didn't mention this "The ACR Ring" event to him. BUT I WILL NOW. :dude3:
We'll float the notification of this event up through the GoPro software engineering department (from the inside), and fingers firmly crossed it gets in front of the right eyes soon.

Please have GoPro contact me about using them and the new software in the cars. We would love to have them help with funding and maybe at the same time this will help them. Anyone who is a larger donor or someone who wants involvement, have them contact me at bernie@viperexchange.com. Thanks would be awesome

[bkrone]

Hmmm..

Yesterday I had lunch with a GoPro Software Eng. (a very good friend of mine). :cool:
Was telling him a little bit about the Viper I'm buying (The SneakySnake!).

He 'tol me that GoPro just bought a company called "DashWare"..which does telemetry/data acquisition (incl. racing)..and they're integrating it into a new GoPro camera.
Here's a link to their webby: http://www.dashware.net/

All of our GoPro videos should be looking something like this (soon):
22426

My friend also indicated he works with a number of gear heads..apparently there's a few exotic supercars in the GoPro parking lot.

I didn't mention "The ACR Ring" event to him. BUT I WILL NOW. :dude3:
We'll float the notification of this event up through the GoPro software engineering department (from the inside), and fingers firmly crossed it gets in front of the right eyes soon.

Yeah I have the Hero5 with the start of the telemetry features being added, it's nice that is for sure. I have a Waylens dash camera that I think works a lot better as it has auto power on/off as well as rolling recording. I do love my GoPro's though, have 2 Hero5's, 3 Hero4 Silver's, and a Hero5 Session on the way.

[Eachey51]

Im going to Daytona this weekend, I will chip in my part when i get back next weekend! I want to see this car take the 918 and my name on the poster!

[FrankBarba]

This would be something maybe Monster Energy Drink might be interested in ?

[ClayR]

Is FCA putting up any money?

[Space Truckin]

Is FCA putting up any money?

I think we all know the answer to this......:rolleyes:

[IndyRon]

Anyone contact the "other" Viper forums?

[SmoknTires]

VOA has donated $2,000 toward the cause and we'll do what we can to support another Ring run!

Would love nothing more than to show the world what the car can do - one last time. Go Viper!

[Fatboy 18]

Genuine question, So the idea is to take two ACRs from the forecourt which I presume will be brand new with zero mileage?

Will these cars engines not have to be run in? Or is it likely that all engine work will be done in the USA before taking the cars overseas? would be interested to know how the cars will be prepared.
Thanks.

[str5010]

Genuine question, So the idea is to take two ACRs from the forecourt which I presume will be brand new with zero mileage?

Will these cars engines not have to be run in? Or is it likely that all engine work will be done in the USA before taking the cars overseas? would be interested to know how the cars will be prepared.
Thanks.

Last time I recall reading the cars were taken from stock at Tomball as new, driven to Detroit as a break in, flown to Germany and finally prepared by a local German race team with corner balance/alignment before heading to the track.

[FLATOUT]

Yes they will be run in but there will be no "engine" work performed. These will be stock cars from our showroom floor.

[Heysie]

Donated. Let's make it happen.

[Herrsss]

Some morning thoughts over coffee; any potential in reaching out to Ralph Gilles or Mark Trostle to see what they could stir up? Also, might be worth reaching out to a company like GoPro. I absolutely see this right up their alley as far as publicity for their latest camera and drone. Happy to help in any way

Unfortunately FCA has no interest in supporting this effort.

[JonB ~ PartsRack]

It looks like the VOA club store has donated $2000. Essentially $1 per VOA member. Good start! My proudest tidbits of Viper ownership have been ORECA / FIA / ALMS / Record Run championships. Other-Brand Peers know and respect it.

A CHALLENGE to VOA REGIONS: Some of you have pretty FAT Trea$urie$ and have shown you can be very generous in subsidizing local or regional events. Instead of a free meal, How about considering a donation to this event from your regional treasury? Regional Members: Ask your BOD to consider supporting this owner-funded event? Regional BODs: ask your members?

NOTE: I have not seen anyone mention that this would actually become a THREE-PEAT if we win the record yet again. Gen 4 ACR won the record TWICE: Once by SRT/Dodge; Once by VEX/SRT/Keating; and now we have a sssssssslim chance to do it again. With your Region's help.

ENTHUSIASTS here: Are you REALLY an enthusiast?!? Prove up! Take 5 minutes and donate $5-$10. Please. www.gofundme.com/take-back-the-ring-record (http://www.gofundme.com/take-back-the-ring-record)

PS I put some $ where my mouth is too.....PartsRack donated $1000 a few days ago, after first hearing from a REGION!

Note: Don't be 'nervous' about donating to a GoFundMe page operated by a racer named "Russ Oasis" for this event. I have known Russ for 23+ years, and would trust and vouch for him any day. [But in 22+ years of sharing the same tracks, he has NEVER passed me even once! My strobe-lights help......]

www.gofundme.com/take-back-the-ring-record (http://www.gofundme.com/take-back-the-ring-record)

GOOD LUCK TEAM KEATING !

[FLATOUT]

Thanks Jon!

[Fatboy 18]

Yes they will be run in but there will be no "engine" work performed. These will be stock cars from our showroom floor.

Thank you

[SmoknTires]

Our club has already made almost a $10K difference in less than 24 hours (and that's in addition to members who already donated before we sent emails), great work everyone! We also involved our vendors and sponsors, a few of them also contributed to show support (and thanks Partsrack for a significant contribution). And some good ideas above.

It's a long shot, but lots of great efforts start as grass roots campaigns. This would be amazing if realized.

[FLATOUT]

Our club has already made almost a $10K difference in less than 24 hours (and that's in addition to members who already donated before we sent emails), great work everyone! We also involved our vendors and sponsors, a few of them also contributed to show support (and thanks Partsrack for a significant contribution). And some good ideas above.

It's a long shot, but lots of great efforts start as grass roots campaigns. This would be amazing if realized.

It absolutely will be realized Alex! I can't thank all of the VOA members, officers, regions, and vendors enough. Viper 100% deserves to go out swinging!

Andy

[FLATOUT]

Wow over $67,000 already. Well played Viper people, well played.

[Goat19642004]

Donated $250.

[1HOTV10]

Challenge excepted Jon B. Southern California Viper Region just donated. We now challenge NorCal and CentralCal to match our donation. Let's do this!

[TrackAire]

Ok, just donated $285.00.......I figured I match the ACR's top speed in kilometers per hour since they're still using that metric language "over there", lol.

Lets go Team Viper, this is going to be exciting to watch and hopefully the ACR brings home a new record that I guarantee will stand for a very long time.
Just pray for good weather and no rain, the ACR will do the rest :United_States::United_States::United_States:

Pretty cool to have the opportunity to be a part of automotive history....please contribute whatever you can as every little bit will help.

[GTS21]

In for 300...

Eric

[FLATOUT]

In for 300...

Eric

Nice! I donated $300 last night as well.

[outnumbered]

Donated

[TrackAire]

This would seem like a perfect marketing deal for Kumho.....hopefully they jump on board and reap the marketing benefits.

[TIME]

Hi Andy and Viper Exchange,
Great initiative - I just donated.

GO FAST

All the best!

[Chorps]

Yes they will be run in but there will be no "engine" work performed. These will be stock cars from our showroom floor.

The Viper 'ring runs have always been impressive that way. All the other efforts are factory efforts, so although there is no deviation from stock, you know that the manufacturers will cherry pick and optimize the specific car in every way they can to make sure it is performing perfectly. Pistons will be balanced perfectly to the tenth of a milligram and all tolerances met... Nissan's GT-R run wasn't really a production car until they made a specific Nismo build after the fact to ensure that it was considered production. Also, usually they are multi-day affairs, with the weather accounted for well in advance and rebooked if the weather looks uncooperative.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-shows/sema-show/news/a27153/storm-the-nurburgring-with-nissans-n-attack-package/

Grab a couple of Viper ACRs off the showroom floor, break them in and go racing. Not something any other manufacturer would ever dare...I guess not even FCA. :-/

[slowhatch]

Hmmm..

Yesterday I had lunch with a GoPro Software Eng. (a very good friend of mine). :cool:
Was telling him a little bit about the Viper I'm buying (The SneakySnake!).

He 'tol me that GoPro just bought a company called "DashWare"..which does telemetry/data acquisition (incl. racing)..and they're integrating it into a new GoPro camera.
Here's a link to their webby: http://www.dashware.net/

All of our GoPro videos should be looking something like this (soon):
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My friend also indicated he works with a number of gear heads..apparently there's a few exotic supercars in the GoPro parking lot.

I didn't mention "The ACR Ring" event to him. BUT I WILL NOW. :dude3:
We'll float the notification of this event up through the GoPro software engineering department (from the inside), and fingers firmly crossed it gets in front of the right eyes soon.

Thats pretty awesome actually. I may have to step up from my trusty gopro 3 black :)

[bkrone]

Thats pretty awesome actually. I may have to step up from my trusty gopro 3 black :)

You should, you'll be glad you did! Video quality is a lot better than the 3!

[gcrain]

This thread is still active if a we have any members here that are members over there and would like to cross post.

http://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-gt3rs-and-911r/906404-ot-my-full-review-of-the-2016-viper-acr.html

[Granger73]

Why not sell an option to purchase the car after the deed is done? I'm pretty sure with the record in its resume, the record setting car will have a significant increase in value. Use these proceeds to help achieve the goal of running for the record.
Just a thought.

[Sanjar]

I just gave my share. I hope this would be a nice gift to all of us for our 25th anniversary of our beloved car!

[bluesrt]

Why not sell an option to purchase the car after the deed is done? I'm pretty sure with the record in its resume, the record setting car will have a significant increase in value. Use these proceeds to help achieve the goal of running for the record.
Just a thought.

that's like wanting to buy a rode hard dirtbike for a week, no thanks- but hey someone may want it

[Boosted Motorsports]

Quote Originally Posted by slowhatch View Post
Thats pretty awesome actually. I may have to step up from my trusty gopro 3 black

You should, you'll be glad you did! Video quality is a lot better than the 3!

Don't bother with the Hero 5...it's junk, endless glitches and the audio quality of a flip-phone. Get a Hero 4 silver or black. Just went through a whole fiasco with GoPro on this, the latest GoPro is a crapshoot and I went back to the Hero 4 Silver.

[TwinVipers]

that's like wanting to buy a rode hard dirtbike for a week, no thanks- but hey someone may want it

Are you kidding, if the car taken breaks the record, it's an instant legend! I'd give my left and possibly right nut for it!!

[BJG32]

Just some reading material to keep this interesting..... If Huracan beats the ACR-E to the track then you'll need to look way past the 918 record.

http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/lightweight-lamborghini-huracan-set-to-smash-nurburgring-record-20170130-gu1hxl.html

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2017/01/hot-lamborghini-huracan-variant-rumored-to-set-nurburgring-record.html

[mnc2886]

Just some reading material to keep this interesting..... If Huracan beats the ACR-E to the track then you'll need to look way past the 918 record.

http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/lightweight-lamborghini-huracan-set-to-smash-nurburgring-record-20170130-gu1hxl.html

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2017/01/hot-lamborghini-huracan-variant-rumored-to-set-nurburgring-record.html

Did Lamborghini ever even prove up their 6:59 claim they had with the Aventador SV?

[BrianACR]

So the as yet to be built 'super' Huracan has lapped under 7 minutes. Good for it. It's not a production car. Do it again when the real road going version comes out, then you can claim to have a real road going car that can lap faster than the Aventador SV. Oh, and how many ACR's can I get for the cost of this one car?? Just sayin...:o

[Bmw2nv2000]

And how many acr's can you buy for the price of the 918 they are out to beat? Sounds like they are indeed building the super fast huracan for the street so will be awesome to see what those bad boys can do. The huracan is one stupid fast and great performing car. Much better than its big brother so im betting we will see a special model huracan officially set a very fast time soon. I hope the acr sets a new record that last for a long time. But why start bashing a great car like the huracan? If i could afford i sure as heck would have a huracan anyday

[BlknBlu]

The Ring does not care how much a car costs.

Bruce

[bluesrt]

Are you kidding, if the car taken breaks the record, it's an instant legend! I'd give my left and possibly right nut for it!!

until the car is a has been and gets beat, then your stuck with no nuts and a washed up car, then we will have to call you catlin,lol

[Fatboy 18]

Im going to try and get the Go fund me site noticed at the London Classic Car show, February End, I will get a printed sheet done on a display stand at the end of our cars with a link to the webpage, Take Back The Ring .....every little bit helps :)

[ChevyChad]

The OCD in me wanted to see all 7's, so I had to put in a little more lol

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I just realized that this amounts to an average of $444.44 donation per person. Nice :cool:

[DZnutz]

running out of steam

[bluesrt]

if we could just reach out to a famous rich person that loves vipers???????????

[Topplayer]

if they beat the record, wont the car be worth TONS. recoup the cost in that alone no?

[Fatboy 18]

if we could just reach out to a famous rich person that loves vipers???????????

Well looking at the membership numbers on here there are at least 1600 members, so far there has only been 186 Donations and the monies raised has hit over 80k! thats unbelievable, so its no way run out of steam anyway near yet :)

[Fatboy 18]

if they beat the record, wont the car be worth TONS. recoup the cost in that alone no?
If the cars make it through Im sure they will be very collectable and the price will be large!

[Granger73]

Why not sell an option to purchase the car after the deed is done? I'm pretty sure with the record in its resume, the record setting car will have a significant increase in value. Use these proceeds to help achieve the goal of running for the record.
Just a thought.

Might be a good time to give this some serious thought. Clearly the value of the record setting car will surpass the shortfall presently being experienced.

[ViperJon]

Not to be Debbie Downer but there is talk of the new Huracan Performante running a 6:52...just talk right now but some pretty respected sources are saying it is true and will be announced at the unveiling. Super fast DCT, active aero and 650 HP...the works. If so that would be unreachable I would say. http://www.motortrend.com/cars/lamborghini/huracan/2017/2017-lamborghini-huracan-performante-first-drive-downforce/

[sadil]

Who cares wth the lambo one off special does lol

[ViperJon]

Who cares wth the lambo one off special does lol

It's a factory production car being introduced in Geneva shortly. Try to keep up with current events.

[ChevyChad]

Sounds like we may be a day late and dollar short :(

[sadil]

Thanks, im 28 and work in the auto industry, I stay up-to-date with current events. My response is the same. I thought the objective of this project was to get a ring time posted. Obviously someone will be faster. If not tomorrow, in a month, or in a year.

[ViperJon]

Thanks, im 28 and work in the auto industry, I stay up-to-date with current events. My response is the same. I thought the objective of this project was to get a ring time posted. Obviously someone will be faster. If not tomorrow, in a month, or in a year.

You stated the Huracan Performante was a "one off Lambo special lol" and you are wrong. Secondly, I don't think the objective here was to just "get a time".
It is an attempt to set the production car record once again. Beating the 918 is a tall order, if the Lambo time is real it is six seconds faster still.

[sadil]

You stated the Huracan Performante was a "one off Lambo special lol" and you are wrong. Secondly, I don't think the objective here was to just "get a time".
It is an attempt to set the production car record once again. Beating the 918 is a tall order, if the Lambo time is real it is six seconds faster still.

Congrats, you are right i am wrong about it being a one lap special. It is a production car not yet released. I think the objective was always to get a time and beat the current record holder, but primarily to get a time. I dont see anyone pulling out their money just because a car beats the 918 record before the Viper gets there. But who knows. I still could care less about the lambo's time. It is double price to begin with but they also went ahead and lightening it further and gave it it more power and active aero. Wonder how much this version will cost.

[ViperGeorge]

Just donated $251 but we are still a long way off.

[gcrain]

if we could just reach out to a famous rich person that loves vipers???????????

CJ Wilson loved his.

[99Vipers]

Sadil,
As Viperjon pointed out the whole point of running the Viper at the Ring was/is to beat the standing record held by the 918 Porsche. The record book does not care how much the car that breaks the record costs, only that it qualifies as a production automobile. I myself could care less what the ACR can do as its only short term bragging rites with sooo many variables involved.Would it be nice,yes but what happens if it runs a shit time,again so many variables.Secondly, Dodge should be ashamed of itself as it could care less about its own product to even sponsor or at least help out in this en-devour. Real Viper enthusiasts know where the Viper stands in automotive history...Screw the car-rags and so called automotive journalists who have for the most part always treated the Viper as a red-headed step child.

[SilverACR]

It's got to hold the record even for a day in my opinion to really mean something. 2010 got to be on top of the list therefore it was the one king of the ring viper faster than all other production cars at the ring at the time. If the gen5 can't do it today then be happy with all the other records it holds and know it did them while a maniac was grabbing gears.

Thanks to VE for hope and dreams and while it's not officially done here it is probably too late.

Feel free to beat up the 2010 ACR owner on this. LOL

[Unlimtd]

There will never be a naturally aspirated, six speed manual, high performance streetable road course car produced by an OEM after the Viper stops being manufactured. Another way to look at this quest is that it will establish a record for this type of vehicle that will never be broken. With boosted applications common, hybrids common, and road course capable pure electrics coming sometime in the further out future as battery tech improves, history will start to view these records in categories. If this venture succeeds, the Viper will top one of those categories.

BTW, in addition to the Lambo, the 2018 ZR1 Vette will probably run the Ring. It may have more than 700 HP ( some reports say 750 HP), advanced aero available as an option, and either a seven speed manual or a ten speed auto. It will be supercharged so, at least to me, it is not the same thing as a Viper. It does not have the gearhead purity. I know many disagree and believe tech is tech and fast is fast. But for some of us the Dirty Harry rawness of the Viper plus the skill to drive it at the edge is what high performance motoring is all about.

[commandomatt]

There will never be a naturally aspirated, six speed manual, high performance streetable road course car produced by an OEM after the Viper stops being manufactured. Another way to look at this quest is that it will establish a record for this type of vehicle that will never be broken. With boosted applications common, hybrids common, and road course capable pure electrics coming sometime in the further out future as battery tech improves, history will start to view these records in categories. If this venture succeeds, the Viper will top one of those categories.


I like this thought process. Kind of like a Bonneville Salt Flats approach

[HISSSN1]

$1,000
Eddie Reinsma
25 days ago

Made in the USA is going to get it done !! Thank you all for making, Viper King of the Ring again. Happiest 25 years ever.

Let's keep this going

[ACR08]

Really want to see the Viper go to the ring and post a time. If it sets a record, great. If not, we will still have a time that I am sure will be very impressive. The point is send this car off in proper fashion. Sometimes the journey is more improntant than the destination.

[rw99]

$1,000
Eddie Reinsma
25 days ago

Made in the USA is going to get it done !! Thank you all for making, Viper King of the Ring again. Happiest 25 years ever.

Let's keep this going

Yeah, buddy!

[VENOM V]

I'm in for $250! Love the passion, thanks for getting this going. Viper Hissstory!!!

[Russ Oasis]

It's slowing down a bit. Can you guys get our fellow Viper Nation residents to kick it up a notch? There's no way we can do it if we can't even get it to $90,000.....and who doesn't want to go out on top? 4 guys have put in $35,000 of the total so far. There are 1800 on the VOA Facebook page that haven't made any contribution. Encourage them to help. Thanks everyone.

[Fatboy 18]

Im going to try and push it at the London classic car show in the UK starting Thursday :) We will have 5 Vipers on display. :)

[braunstein82]

Has anyone thought about getting a TV show involved to maybe pick some of the expense. I remember top gear was there for the veyron to hit it's record speed. Maybe they would be interested since they have already worked with woodhouse. Or grand tour is always trying to take shots at them. Leno's show. IDK. Just an idea.

[Russ Oasis]

We're on all of that stuff.

[BlueAdder]

Just got in for $251. Hopefully that works out because it would be sweet to have the ACR run at the Ring again.

[Boosted Motorsports]

How is it looking for the deadline about a month away???

[Space Truckin]

Just checked site and a bit over 1/2 raised $85308 of $159000 needed

[commandomatt]

Maybe VE will be putting all that ADM on the special editions towards the run............

[stradman]

I can't understand why they couldn't get 3 or 4 big sponsors to fund the rest.Surely there must be enough automotive or automotive related companies or even something like an energy drink that could benefit from some of the publicity, no?

[mnc2886]

I can't understand why they couldn't get 3 or 4 big sponsors to fund the rest.Surely there must be enough automotive or automotive related companies or even something like an energy drink that could benefit from some of the publicity, no?

Chrysler should've done this when they first released the ACR....

[Granger73]

Auction off the rights to purchase the car when the event is over.

[SmoknTires]

I second that. Now that's a hell of an idea...

[One Viper Bite]

Lamborghini Hurracan Performante just destroyed the current record. Video here https://youtu.be/6ULSUcERlQQ

[VENOM V]

Do you guys think a pre-production car's lap time should count? The Porsche 918's time is legit, but this Lambo has yet to be released to production. Does it really count? Will they change the tune to meet smog and will that slow it down? Tires, brake pads Etc? Is this prototype made to exact production specs, or is it a "ringer?"

[darbgnik]

Do you guys think a pre-production car's lap time should count? The Porsche 918's time is legit, but this Lambo has yet to be released to production. Does it really count? Will they change the tune to meet smog and will that slow it down? Tires, brake pads Etc? Is this prototype made to exact production specs, or is it a "ringer?"

I would think that the production one will be a touch different, but I also believe this one will generally be accepted.

[Schen]

Do you guys think a pre-production car's lap time should count? The Porsche 918's time is legit, but this Lambo has yet to be released to production. Does it really count? Will they change the tune to meet smog and will that slow it down? Tires, brake pads Etc? Is this prototype made to exact production specs, or is it a "ringer?"

Well to start, I think it counts. Car is going into production and it's not like nurburgring lap times are a sanctioned thing so I wouldn't be surprised at all that this car is tweaked with factory support just like every other manufacturer that shows up there. It's a pretty insane achievement for a GT car to break 7 minutes, they took it a step further by 10 seconds. That's a good amount of time and will be tough to beat for a while.

--RS

[Policy Limits]

I won't believe it until it does it in production form

[CarolinaViper]

A 188 MPH on the long straight is going to be very hard to overcome, but wish them the best.

[stradman]

Hang on a second. At the beginning of this video it mentions the date Oct 5th 2016. And they put out the video five months later??? Something is fishy here. As far as I'm concerned this is not a production car-it is preproduction and will not be on sale until late spring. Its not even mentioned in the nurburgring lap times website anywhere...https://nurburgringlaptimes.com/

[stradman]

A 188 MPH on the long straight is going to be very hard to overcome, but wish them the best.

I'm sure the 918 did more than 188mph on the straight but that doesn't tell the full story and is not always key.

[One Viper Bite]

I'm sure the 918 did more than 188mph on the straight but that doesn't tell the full story and is not always key.

It's not just the top speed, but how quickly and how often it exceeds the speed of the ACR. With active aero and similar power and weight, it almost assuredly accelerates faster than the ACR does. The ACR probably matches it and even beats it in the corners, but I don't think it has the acceleration and top speed to contend else where. I think that's the defining factor here.

[ddominator1]

Wow.. just got on this! Count me in for 200. . Anyone ever thought about trying to write a letter to or contact FCA execs to see if will chip in rest... it's their damn car after all and with all this lambo hub bub it would be great publicity

[mjorgensen]

Wow.. just got on this! Count me in for 200. . Anyone ever thought about trying to write a letter to or contact FCA execs to see if will chip in rest... it's their damn car after all and with all this lambo hub bub it would be great publicity


You would have better luck getting them to take a Hell Cat and that's never going to happen either and why would it...

[ddominator1]

i know Mark.. that's a travesty really.. like who cares about one the best American iconic sports cars to ever be created? I can understand the reasoning why the car is off production. .sales.. costs etc but by God this car essentially put Chrysler on the radar back in the 90s and put others on notice. it provided excellent topic of conversations for decades, shootouts, donned magazine covers left and right.. left competition in the dust..on and on.. so maybe a petition in order to simply ask one last thing.. put the Dodge Viper ACR back on the track to show off its guts.. even if we come back with a slower time (very well may be) at least that's a marketable Dodge story and would make the organization as a whole mush stronger.. esp if years down the road another well-defined version of the VIPER is ever produced. i mean has anyone even attempted to ask? Considered writing a letter??... or do they know that about die hard dodge supporters like VOA that are spending their hard earned $$ to bring the King back to track for one last hurrah??! Just a thought?
You would have better luck getting them to take a Hell Cat and that's never going to happen either and why would it...

[mjorgensen]

i know Mark.. that's a travesty really.. like who cares about one the best American iconic sports cars to ever be created? I can understand the reasoning why the car is off production. .sales.. costs etc but by God this car essentially put Chrysler on the radar back in the 90s and put others on notice. it provided excellent topic of conversations for decades, shootouts, donned magazine covers left and right.. left competition in the dust..on and on.. so maybe a petition in order to simply ask one last thing.. put the Dodge Viper ACR back on the track to show off its guts.. even if we come back with a slower time (very well may be) at least that's a marketable Dodge story and would make the organization as a whole mush stronger.. esp if years down the road another well-defined version of the VIPER is ever produced. i mean has anyone even attempted to ask? Considered writing a letter??... or do they know that about die hard dodge supporters like VOA that are spending their hard earned $$ to bring the King back to track for one last hurrah??! Just a thought?

It would just look dumb if they spent any money or time on a car they killed already when in reality they should have spent the time and money YEARS ago so we could try and keep it around. There has been more press and pictures of the G5 Viper in ads since the announcement of its passing then ever before it's almost insulting that they are using it to promote the "muscle cars" they want to build instead of the road warrior the Viper is. They/he made the choice and he likes the Challenger/Charger (straight-line) more where Ralph was in love with the road course version of the future.

[mnc2886]

It would just look dumb if they spent any money or time on a car they killed already when in reality they should have spent the time and money YEARS ago so we could try and keep it around. There has been more press and pictures of the G5 Viper in ads since the announcement of its passing then ever before it's almost insulting that they are using it to promote the "muscle cars" they want to build instead of the road warrior the Viper is. They/he made the choice and he likes the Challenger/Charger (straight-line) more where Ralph was in love with the road course version of the future.

In regards to the individual you are referring to: to each his own. However, sinking your blood and guts into a car that also comes in a V6 designed to achieve low cost and efficiency will be the end of their performance division. We are several years into Chevy and Ford producing renditions of their muscle car (Camaro and Mustang) that are track focused. Dodge's car is going to be 1000 lbs heavier than the competition soon and they don't appear to have had any focus on it at all. It isn't 1969 anymore. Straight line isn't king.

[Schen]

In regards to the individual you are referring to: to each his own. However, sinking your blood and guts into a car that also comes in a V6 designed to achieve low cost and efficiency will be the end of their performance division. We are several years into Chevy and Ford producing renditions of their muscle car (Camaro and Mustang) that are track focused. Dodge's car is going to be 1000 lbs heavier than the competition soon and they don't appear to have had any focus on it at all. It isn't 1969 anymore. Straight line isn't king.

What?

Seriously what? Straight line isn't "king"? Straight line is without a doubt, king. Every single auto enthusiast, from the lowest to the high, pits car vs car in a straight line more often than those that take the time to do an HPDE.

The guy looking to brandish the wheel of a V8 muscle car TOTALLY will end up at a drag strip. ZL1/Z28 or GT350, a majority of them will end up in garages, attend weekly car shows and depending on the weather, at the quarter mile. Only a handful at best will see a full course.

There are not too many people that cut corners in a LX/LC, I'm one of them. It's alot of car, it creates a lot of wear and while the guys back in Ann Arbor (and the other two) do an amazing job with the suspension, brakes, etc on these cars not all but some will see a road course. A majority of LX/LC owners drag race their cars, even the Jeep guys.

Right now, it's not a matter of focus but a matter of time. If you've noticed over the years tiny motors, big turbos are a thing now. Might as well milk it for all it's worth.

They know exactly what market they're going after. As much as I want a proper T/A, the Demon will do all the work just fine.

--RS

[PkB2014]

What?

Seriously what? Straight line isn't "king"? Straight line is without a doubt, king. Every single auto enthusiast, from the lowest to the high, pits car vs car in a straight line more often than those that take the time to do an HPDE.

The guy looking to brandish the wheel of a V8 muscle car TOTALLY will end up at a drag strip. ZL1/Z28 or GT350, a majority of them will end up in garages, attend weekly car shows and depending on the weather, at the quarter mile. Only a handful at best will see a full course.

There are not too many people that cut corners in a LX/LC, I'm one of them. It's alot of car, it creates a lot of wear and while the guys back in Ann Arbor (and the other two) do an amazing job with the suspension, brakes, etc on these cars not all but some will see a road course. A majority of LX/LC owners drag race their cars, even the Jeep guys.

Right now, it's not a matter of focus but a matter of time. If you've noticed over the years tiny motors, big turbos are a thing now. Might as well milk it for all it's worth.

They know exactly what market they're going after. As much as I want a proper T/A, the Demon will do all the work just fine.

--RS

Don't forget with the rise of these half-mile and 1 mile events at airstrips people will definitely want something like the Demon for going straight very fast.

[GTSilver]

A good article regarding the lambo ring time;

http://www.bridgetogantry.com/blog-did-lambo-fake-that-laptime/

Regardless of the speed achieved at the long straight the ACR still has a good chance of breaking the record, how many tenths could be saved at each turn would add up and more for any high speed straight.

Yousif

[OneofOneViper]

Sounds like the video had to be doctored and the initial claims of 5% were spot on. QUOTE: "Probably a *coincidence* that the Huracan vid is 48 FPS and the Aventador 50 FPS"

[ACR Extreme]

Sounds like the video had to be doctored and the initial claims of 5% were spot on. QUOTE: "Probably a *coincidence* that the Huracan vid is 48 FPS and the Aventador 50 FPS"

If the SV had Trofeo's and not told to go home they could have brought in a better time - when Porsche found out the time Lambo HQ was told to pack it up and not do another run. It's not doctored there are some errors in that thinking and the guys who are stating such they are just looking for attention. Lambrghini racing is not stupid they wouldn't make a claim if they could not back it up. The Bridge to Gantry is what it is the tach vs speedo will always tell a different story they are cheap inaccurate measurements of what's going on at the surface especially at 200 mph.

Huracan Performante is faster - it's a better design less weight fast transmission better aero. I have the SV and can tell you the stock Huracan is just as fast straight line. I added the SV race exhaust and expecting Trofeo's any day but there is no way my SV will be as fast as the Performante ... no way.

[OneofOneViper]

If the SV had Trofeo's and not told to go home they could have brought in a better time - when Porsche found out the time Lambo HQ was told to pack it up and not do another run. It's not doctored there are some errors in that thinking and the guys who are stating such they are just looking for attention. Lambrghini racing is not stupid they wouldn't make a claim if they could not back it up. The Bridge to Gantry is what it is the tach vs speedo will always tell a different story they are cheap inaccurate measurements of what's going on at the surface especially at 200 mph.

Huracan Performante is faster - it's a better design less weight fast transmission better aero. I have the SV and can tell you the stock Huracan is just as fast straight line. I added the SV race exhaust and expecting Trofeo's any day but there is no way my SV will be as fast as the Performante ... no way.

Do you happen to know why an official time has not been posted on the tracks website yet?

[ACRucrazy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kq3fJmQLok&feature=youtu.be

[ACR Extreme]

Do you happen to know why an official time has not been posted on the tracks website yet?

Nope. Lamborghini did send me the entire event as the day unfolded - would rather wait and let it be shown at Geneva. I understand the 918 time differences vs the Performante especially at the begining when the 918 was faster at the start and mid corner yet slower than the Performante as it had faster times. Remember the 918 decouples at the front at 150 and there were all sorts of computers in the 918 passenger seat. But I truly believe once they unveil the day all will see that a speedo or tach do not tell the story of bridge to gantry and we know the track is faster based on improvements. At the end of the day unless two cars are racing same time same track etc there is not way to know who is faster. The fact the Performante came in so much faster IMO just means it's fast how much who knows.

[wum]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lamborghinis-record-breaking-nurburgring-lap-205204326.html

Looks like it might not be legit?

[ddominator1]

question???? wasnt the lap time calculated outside of the car? ? was there simply an official at finish line with a goddamn stop watch or digital analog or something.. not a computer generated analog from INSIDE the car! thats not going to be accurate..

[ACR Extreme]

question???? wasnt the lap time calculated outside of the car? ? was there simply an official at finish line with a goddamn stop watch or digital analog or something.. not a computer generated analog from INSIDE the car! thats not going to be accurate..

http://www.autocar.co.uk/opinion/new-cars/marco-mapelli-his-record-breaking-lamborghini-huracan-performante-lap

[wum]

188 mph on the fastest straight. seems like it doesn't have too much of an advantage over the ACR on the straights

[Arizona Vipers]

Here's a video of how that active aero works on the Huracan Performante- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX4NHnoEyg8
Pretty cool stuff.

[99Vipers]

All you have to do is look at the engineering time/costs and MSRP of the Huracan Performante and the Viper will always come out on top as far as what it can achieve versus the exotics, besides how many on this planet can extract those numbers out of the Lambo or Viper?.....The real Viper enthusiast can stand proud without some silly numbers so why whine about it..? Do you go around in your Viper with a freaking chart of the fastest cars at the Ring ,lol,
As stated, the Dodge marketing department for the Gen. 5 should all be hung from their genitalia for the poor job they did and to add to the fact that the Gen 5 will be known in a somewhat bad light(look at resale values) because of its mysterious engine problems along with other niggling maladies that still plague it right up until the end thanks to Dodges incompetent QC. Lets just enjoy our pieces of automotive history and know the name VIPER will always be held in high esteem and for those that think otherwise.........WHO CARES

[Fatboy 18]

Well I've just thrown in another $230.00 That'll teach me to open my emails drinking a bottle of Jack!

Come on everyone, not far to go now!

[SharpMan]

$260 usd ($350 cdn!)

[GTS21]

Throwing in another $300.....

[Fatboy 18]

I've just bumped this up again on the UK forums

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=&t=1647124

[Canadian venom]

$260 usd ($350 cdn!)

I feel your pain...Canadian Tire's money worth more :icon_devil:

[Russ Oasis]

Sorry to have been absent for so long. I've really been working on the Nurburgring project. Come on everyone! Let's make a final push to get us over the finish line, for the Viper Record Run at Nurburgring Powered by Kumho Tire. We're so close. Urge your friends who haven't donated anything, to do it for the Viper legacy. It will make all of our cars more valuable and put to rest forever, any bench racers' chatter about which car is the street legal track monster. www.gofundme.com/take-back-the-ring-record

[rw99]

Anybody reached out to that Google exec that's getting all the social media love for tracking his ACR-E? He was clearly a guy with deeeeep pockets and a Viper fan...

[Russ Oasis]

Good Thought Rich...I'll follow up.

[SharpMan]

Thought I agree with the explanation of why FCA wouldn't want to it's absolutely nothing for them to stroke a cheque for $30K. They can easily turn it into a feel good story for Dodge or just justify it with social and online engagement...would be the cheapest media buy of the year for them.

And if it doesn't set the record...bit deal. $30K is the dinner bill at one night of one press event feeding car reviewers...

[Heysie]

This ACR did some laps today.

24703

[Russ Oasis]

SharpMan,
COULD NOT AGREE MORE.

[Russ Oasis]

I followed up. We'll see if we get a response from him (the VP of Google).

[Shooter]

Why are people wasting money on getting cars from the US when there are Gen V ACR's on the ground in Europe?

[Fatboy 18]

Why are people wasting money on getting cars from the US when there are Gen V ACR's on the ground in Europe?

That's easy, the cars in Europe are privately owned. The Ring is not always kind to cars so could you imagine dealing with issues if the ring took out an owners car! Also, you do not know how the european cars have been broken in, weather any recall issues have been dealt with (remember we are on our own out here with Zero dealer back up) I also believe (maybe i'm being cynical) that there is a bit of a business plan from VE to this too!

Lets be honest, People will be queuing up to buy those cars if the record gets equaled or beaten, the last ring cars went for top moneys with the rear wings being signed by drivers and mechanics.

Saying that I have donated twice :lol2: because I would love to see this happen. Its a shame FCA did not get behind this, I also think more commercial sponsors should have been found, be it Oil companies and other suppliers. Thank's to Kumo tires for stepping up :dude3:

[Fatboy 18]

So How about Pennzoil would they like to step up to the plate with a bit of sponsorship seeing as they have just launched their Last Viper Video?

[SharpMan]

So How about Pennzoil would they like to step up to the plate with a bit of sponsorship seeing as they have just launched their Last Viper Video?

Good idea, Pennzoil, Kumho, Bilstein...just $10K each. Maybe tweet it at them and send an email to their PR / Marketing people?

[Granger73]

I also believe (maybe i'm being cynical) that there is a bit of a business plan from VE to this too! Lets be honest, People will be queuing up to buy those cars if the record gets equaled or beaten, the last ring cars went for top moneys with the rear wings being signed by drivers and mechanics.

Just curious. Does anyone know what the plan is for these cars after the project has been completed?

[Shooter]

That's easy, the cars in Europe are privately owned. The Ring is not always kind to cars so could you imagine dealing with issues if the ring took out an owners car! Also, you do not know how the european cars have been broken in, weather any recall issues have been dealt with (remember we are on our own out here with Zero dealer back up) I also believe (maybe i'm being cynical) that there is a bit of a business plan from VE to this too!

Lets be honest, People will be queuing up to buy those cars if the record gets equaled or beaten, the last ring cars went for top moneys with the rear wings being signed by drivers and mechanics.



Na I doubt that's the reason. I seem to remember a couple or 4 months back where someone in Europe offered up they're GEN V ACR for a record attempt. Probably has more to do with lining some pockets here. Thanks for the reply though.

[bluesrt]

Good idea, Pennzoil, Kumho, Bilstein...just $10K each. Maybe tweet it at them and send an email to their PR / Marketing people?

they don't care/ the viper is over,they could care less about the car,its all about money for them,and vipers piggy bank empty for them

[commandomatt]

they don't care/ the viper is over,they could care less about the car,its all about money for them,and vipers piggy bank empty for them

Not necessarily

The manufacturers of certain product want exposure. They would be supporting a record attempt....that's all. What they don't care about is what car may be used. They just want to be able to say that their stuff was on the vehicle that was run

Look at Pennzoil and the money they just spent on the 'Last Viper' commercial. It's all about being associated with something people want.

[bluesrt]

That's easy, the cars in Europe are privately owned. The Ring is not always kind to cars so could you imagine dealing with issues if the ring took out an owners car! Also, you do not know how the european cars have been broken in, weather any recall issues have been dealt with (remember we are on our own out here with Zero dealer back up) I also believe (maybe i'm being cynical) that there is a bit of a business plan from VE to this too!

Lets be honest, People will be queuing up to buy those cars if the record gets equaled or beaten, the last ring cars went for top moneys with the rear wings being signed by drivers and mechanics.

Saying that I have donated twice :lol2: because I would love to see this happen. Its a shame FCA did not get behind this, I also think more commercial sponsors should have been found, be it Oil companies and other suppliers. Thank's to Kumo tires for stepping up :dude3:
yep, ve cars that go over there are exstensivly gone over big time,big time prep work for safety like nuts and bolts comeing loose,drivers seat harness ect.

[SharpMan]

Not necessarily

The manufacturers of certain product want exposure. They would be supporting a record attempt....that's all. What they don't care about is what car may be used. They just want to be able to say that their stuff was on the vehicle that was run

Look at Pennzoil and the money they just spent on the 'Last Viper' commercial. It's all about being associated with something people want.

Bingo. Just need to build the media exposure case. If we could get a car magazine to agree to cover it in advance they can add that to the ROI.

Compile Forum audience, potential pr exposure on (Jalopnik, Autoblog, CarAndDrive, MotorTrend, etc...)...someone needs to SELL it to them and fast.

[bluesrt]

wonder why someone has not jumped on that then (company out there)

[SharpMan]

I doubt they are aware nor has it been presented to the right decision makers.
wonder why someone has not jumped on that then (company out there)

[Coloviper]

Might sound funny but why not write a very patriotic letter on American ingenuity, American made, etc and proving our worth and dominance to the world. Send it with a request directly to Trump at the WH. You never know, as might be like asking out the "hot" girl who in reality, never gets asked out. Worth a shot!

[13COBRA]

lol Oh, I'd say that's pretty far fetched.

It'd be more likely that all of the Gen V owners gets a letter in the mail asking to donate $50 a piece.

[bluesrt]

Yes!

[bigmacsmallfries]

So is this thing going to happen or what? Target was April. 80% of the goal has been reached. Will it get delayed until the funds come in or get cancelled entirely?

[Fatboy 18]

Hearing today (via a facebook link) that the Ring has been rented out by a Viper fan for the 30th 31st May 17 So looks like the price should be cheaper as they now have a free track!

Now it also just so happens that the Swiss, German, French and some English Viper owners will Also be finishing the long weekend "Viper Owners Europe 5" Event in the Vosges mountain region of France near Colmar. Our event finishes on the 28th May where owners will then make their way home across Europe.

It would be rude not to swing by and watch a couple of Vipers from some point trackside :)25151

[Snakebit10]

Great news. I was beginning to worry this would not happen.

[ACRucrazy]

I thought I saw someone change the date frome April to July a while back.

[slowhatch]

So is this thing going to happen or what? Target was April. 80% of the goal has been reached. Will it get delayed until the funds come in or get cancelled entirely?

They are going, Viper Exchange has committed to send the cars. Time to shine.

[13COBRA]

They are going, Viper Exchange has committed to send the cars. Time to shine.

Perfect. This will be exciting.