Hellcat beating Challenger SRT Demon on the way

[Lawrenzo]

Looks like the Hellcat has a new daddy!

http://www.automobilemag.com/news/2018-dodge-challenger-srt-demon-coming-new-york/?_wcsid=6848D00B764B854719B31E6DC7785DA4061EFA09B9 B474D0


Check out their promo video-

http://www.dodge.com/en/ifyouknowyouknow/

[ACRucrazy]

The Fate of the Furious (Fast 8) - 4/14/18
New York International Auto Show - 4/14/18

Coincidence?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uisBaTkQAEs

[RedTanRT/10]

thanks!! I'll be there for Press day

[BigBadViper]

This is what they should have been doing all along with the Viper. Breaking records, getting press, and hyping it up. I personally don't know like the looks of the challenger or the charger, but everyone likes the looks of the Viper. I just don't get it.

[Lawrenzo]

It looks like they can fit a bit more rear tire under that bodywork. Image how hard a Demon could hook with a 335!!

[Boosted Motorsports]

Glad the brand is still pushing the limits with the HEMI and muscle cars! Can't wait to see what the specs are on this thing.

[bluesrt]

Those widebody challengers look like a after thought- yuk

[BlknBlu]

Is FCA going overboard on performance.......lol

Bruce

[sparkrn]

Is FCA going overboard on performance.......lol

Bruce
That's not even possible!!!!! I'm taking your man card for 1 week.

[EZ 2B Green]

In a straight line it will out accelerate our Vipers. :eek: Where's that Viper Exchange/Arrow Racing Gen V Supercharger when we need it?

[Vprbite]

In a straight line it will out accelerate our Vipers. :eek: Where's that Viper Exchange/Arrow Racing Gen V Supercharger when we need it?

IF...you can get those tires not to spin. Also hit a chicane and that hellcat will be mowing the lawn. The viper isn't designed to be a drag car. You can make it one. But it wasn't built for that.

[ACRucrazy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6hjhFuQIbo

[Ripper]

http://youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=a6hjhFuQIbo



Nice find! Very interested to see what the outcome of this car will be...

[City]

IF...you can get those tires not to spin.

Yahoo Business
Dodge’s next muscle car will be faster, lighter, and more powerful than the Hellcat
Ronan Glon, Digital Trends

The Fiat-owned brand explains the upcoming model will raise the bar in terms of power and speed. Nothing is official yet, but we’re inclined to believe it will boast more grunt than the 707-horsepower Hellcat. The Demon could also use a high-performance version of the new Challenger GT‘s all-wheel drive system to transfer its power to the asphalt.

[swexlin]

I wouldn't mind one of these in my garage. I really miss my 07 Charger SRT8. Fun, fast car, and a better handling car than most realize. 10 years on, with the better tech, suspension setup, not to mention power - yeah, this will be a great car.

[Bill Pemberton]

Sad part is the GTs AWD is mated to a V6 --pretty much seems likely it would not be able to handle the power of a Hellcat in it's current guise , let alone the Demon! I agree that would be the Killer machine, but losing weight as noted is a big plus to start with.

[Lawrenzo]

It looks like they are putting a new hood "snorkel" type of hood on it as well. Maybe harkening back to the '70 TA hood, but bigger??

[commandomatt]

In an article I just read it says that Dodge considers the new Challenger Demon the Dodge Halo car

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/2018-dodge-challenger-srt-demon-is-200plus-pounds-lighter-than-hellcat/ar-AAm15n1

Pretty sad that our beloved Viper is not even out the door and they are talking about a car to take its place as the Halo that is just a performance package on one of the base model offerings. While the Demon may be a cool version of the Challenger, it will just be measured up against the Mustangs and Camaros. A Halo car it's not

[swexlin]

I understand you're feeling, but the Viper is going away, so they have to have a new halo from something. Is what it is.....

[ViperPete]

You can see the bigger hood. I like it. More muscular for sure.

[ACRucrazy]

Whoops...



https://youtu.be/HdZNmrp7ahU

[Lawrenzo]

^^^^^ This is kind of like the accidental Gen V Hot wheels reveal. Whoops.

[Coloviper]

That is an awesome looking couple of Sherman Tanks there. They are sooooooooo big and heavy compared to the Viper. Since there is no more Viper after 2017, I guess their top performer defaults to Halo. If Viper is gone and I believe it is riding into the subset as we speak with the girl and it's head held high, then the Demon is their Halo for now.

I do not believe the Viper name will come back! I also believe they are working on a version of mid engine ME16 car as the new halo. Seeing what Ford brought for excitement wth the GT, which energizes the entire brand, Dodge could be looking to do the same. Viper is 100% unique and used borrow parts from other lines, not the other way around where people feel a connection to GT because their center display is the same as a GT. Dodge always said borrowed not leant.

A mid engine super car Halo with a V8 is their change. Ford gave it to them when they put the V6 in. Americans love their V8s. With FCA connection to Ferrari, it only makes sense. Certainly gives them a leg up with that connection partnership as opposed the corvette developing it in an internal vacuum.

We will see! Either way, applaud Dodge for not just bending over and accepting a V6 as their halo. Americans love V8s. I love V8s (and my V10 too). No limitations!

[mnc2886]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6hjhFuQIbo

While I think this will be a cool car, it will still be the heaviest car in it's class, and by several hundred pounds. The Challenger is a big car.

[swexlin]

It's funny, for us older types (I'm 53) the Challenge/Charger platform is mid-size. Compared to the boats I was used to in the 70s. To me, a big car is RR Phantom, or some such. Not to mention a 70 Sedan de Ville!

[bluesrt]

or better yet a 74 Eldorado!

[Boosted Motorsports]

Less weight in that last reveal is a good start. Should most likely have AWD.

There have already been lots of spy photos with it running around with dealer plates without fender flares. Same rims as you are starting to see in the promo vids. With that much meat up front it kind of gives it away...
http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/2018-Dodge-Challenger-ADR-SPY-105-626x383.jpg
http://blog.caranddriver.com/dodge-challenger-hellcat-adr-spied-with-wide-tires-without-wide-body/

[Vprbite]

Less weight in that last reveal is a good start. Should most likely have AWD.

There have already been lots of spy photos with it running around with dealer plates without fender flares. Same rims as you are starting to see in the promo vids. With that much meat up front it kind of gives it away...
http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/2018-Dodge-Challenger-ADR-SPY-105-626x383.jpg
http://blog.caranddriver.com/dodge-challenger-hellcat-adr-spied-with-wide-tires-without-wide-body/


Test mule of some sort there, im assuming? Cause in that formation it looks like something I would see on the south side of Tucson.

[Rare Snake]

Am I the only one who doesn't care what kind of Challenger it is? With all the "special editions" I can't even keep track anymore.

That's why I bought a Viper, I don't see 50 of them every day.

But the biggest laugh I'm getting right now and everyone is just eating it up, but nobody has mentioned it... how exactly is the new one going to be both AWD and more lightweight at the same time? I don't see that working out.

[bluesrt]

its not awd, its adr- all American drag racer with big dumb fender flairs,lol

[Stealth78]

I agree and disagree. I agree that I do not see this being an AWD car. To add AWD and shed the claimed 200lbs would be drastic. Secondly I cannot imagine an AWD set-up able to hold up to 800-900HP when the sole intention of this car is drag racing, good luck warrantying that, it's not like it can run a 1-ton drivetrain and retain light weight. I disagree with the "it's just a Challenger". I don't want to get into the "cars are not an investment" conversations, but please.... That's like saying an old Hemi-Cuda has no precedence over the other similar models back in the day.

[Stealth78]

I have to add, Damn I hope those ugly ass fender flares are not what FCA is going to release in the production car and consider that a "wide-body". That would be worse than Chevy and the fender trim they used on the Z28 Camaro.

[v10enomous]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdZNmrp7ahU

[v10enomous]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fShQPh0s64

[commandomatt]

Am I the only one who doesn't care what kind of Challenger it is? With all the "special editions" I can't even keep track anymore.

That's why I bought a Viper, I don't see 50 of them every day.



I fully agree

This 'Challenger' looks like someone just went overboard in the options catalog and then finished it off with some JC Whitney accessories.

I do feel a bit sorry for the guys that got a Hellcat, thinking they were top dog in the line up. May see a few of those for sale when this 'thing' is released

[Rare Snake]

I fully agree

This 'Challenger' looks like someone just went overboard in the options catalog and then finished it off with some JC Whitney accessories.

I do feel a bit sorry for the guys that got a Hellcat, thinking they were top dog in the line up. May see a few of those for sale when this 'thing' is released

I think I feel more sorry for the guys who bought the SRT Challys or Scat Paks. I hang around with quite a few of them at shows and different events:

"Hey is that a Hellcat?"

"No"

"Oh damn, you should've got the Hellcat."

Lol that would drive me nuts all the time.

[Vprbite]

That car that Vin Diesel is standing next to looks like a south Tucson special to me. But to each their own.

[v10enomous]

I want to see it in person. Hoping that it has a Shelby Super Snake widebody sort of vibe.

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/njvipermail/04-widebody-shelby-super-snake_zpsapwr6qml.jpg (http://s375.photobucket.com/user/njvipermail/media/04-widebody-shelby-super-snake_zpsapwr6qml.jpg.html)

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/njvipermail/2013_Shelby_GT500SuperSnakeWideBody-0-1024_zps0csd4eha.jpg (http://s375.photobucket.com/user/njvipermail/media/2013_Shelby_GT500SuperSnakeWideBody-0-1024_zps0csd4eha.jpg.html)

[ACRucrazy]

I think I feel more sorry for the guys who bought the SRT Challys or Scat Paks. I hang around with quite a few of them at shows and different events:

"Hey is that a Hellcat?"

"No"

"Oh damn, you should've got the Hellcat."

Lol that would drive me nuts all the time.

Thats part of the reason I traded in my '08 Aero coupe, which I enjoyed very much for the ACR.

[Canadian venom]

Big horsepower on a 10 year old body/ suspension/ with ricer flare and only 200 pounds less because FCA doesn't have the $ to keep it up to date...lol

[uberpube]

22434

Maybe Dodge just bought the Liberty Walk kits ?:p

[Schen]

^^^^^ This is kind of like the accidental Gen V Hot wheels reveal. Whoops.

Yeahhhhh, not quite but close enough...

The Demon will be the new 'Halo', it's been mentioned before in a prior interview.

Also, remember, as often as the Mustang, Camaro and Challenger are grouped together as being the same class, they are not. The Challenger is ment to be a big comfy GT car, not a 'pony' car like the other two and it's also been mentioned that the Demon is designed to do one thing and one thing only. Go straight. (Kinda, let's be honest here you could go to the supermarket. Maybe.) Many folks that have been around the LX/LC platform have done their homework at the track for a while now, weight doesn't necessarily mean much of an issue. There are heavily modified Jeeps on this planet running 8's, it blows my mind watching a brick burn all four in the water box and then take off faster than a cat seeing a cucumber for the first time.

No chance for mid-engine anything. The ME412 was the closest mid-engine Chrysler project ever, the plug was pulled while Daimler was in charge and the SLR came to be.

Yes, GM is building a mid-engine something BUT I'm holding my breath on that one because they have a repeated history of building mid-engine Corvette concepts that are nothing more than a tease. Even Oldsmobile and Cadillac had mid-engine projects, the later of the two could even be a possibility but will see. Kudos to them for whatever it might be.

I can't wait to meet the Demon. It should be interesting.

--RS

[Whitemamba]

I for one like it and am glad to see Dodge step up the performance. Hey, performance is performance no matter what. The sad part is that Dodge never put this much effort into the Viper. SRT did a great job with what they had to work with but Dodge dropped the ball on the release and on the marketing of a great car. It is kind of amazing that these manufacturers don't realize that you don't always get back what you lose to competitors. And in this case it is customers. I quit buying Chevrolet due to getting into a Viper and then buying other Dodge products like my Durango Citadel and soon to add a Dodge Ram truck.. If it weren't for the Viper, I would most likely have never ventured into a Dodge showroom.

I freaking hate to have to go back to Chevrolet for a sports car but I may have to go that route since the Viper is being discontinued.

[mattssg]

I think I feel more sorry for the guys who bought the SRT Challys or Scat Paks. I hang around with quite a few of them at shows and different events:

"Hey is that a Hellcat?"

"No"

"Oh damn, you should've got the Hellcat."

Lol that would drive me nuts all the time.

I kind of felt the same. "Is that the blown SRT?" "Is that the hellcat?" "Is that the SRT" now it's "Is that the Demon?"

I wonder if it's going to be powered by the Viper's V10 matted with a blower. There was an article a month or so ago that said Dodge got some Supercharged V10's delivered.. I can't find the link atm-- but i'm not sure what else it could be.. Same 6.4 blown with more boost and a widebody?

ETA: The front spoiler looks very similar to the Challenger v10 concept car. I remember this when I had my Hemi Orange SRT8 Challenger.

http://www.allpar.com/history/auto-shows/sema-2008.php

[outnumbered]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fShQPh0s64

[Boosted Motorsports]

Dodge seems pretty proud to say they have AWD muscle cars so I wouldn't be surprised if the Demon is...


https://youtu.be/R2CmP6uvPIQ

[v10enomous]

My local dealer has an even dozen 2016 Hellcats(6 pictured here) in stock... 9 Challengers and 3 Chargers. Not really a big dealer either. I wonder how deeply they are being discounted now ?

http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/njvipermail/hellokittys%202_zps862ynzgt.jpg (http://s375.photobucket.com/user/njvipermail/media/hellokittys%202_zps862ynzgt.jpg.html)

[bluesrt]

most 16 cars are over 5 k off

[Camfab]

Dodge seems pretty proud to say they have AWD muscle cars so I wouldn't be surprised if the Demon is...


https://youtu.be/R2CmP6uvPIQ

Of course anything is possible, but at this point AWD is only available with the 6 cyl. variant because they claim the system cant handle the torque of the V-8.

[ACRucrazy]

The Dodge Challenger SRT Demon Will Have The Widest Front Tires Of Any Production Car Ever

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Pc8vPNDy--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/oqkmm7rinobtab0lysi6.png

Everybody has their own idiosyncratic set of criteria when it comes to buying a car. I have a weird space-utilization fetish, for example. If you’re someone who’s really into width, specifically tire width, your next car purchase is already decided. That’s because the upcoming Dodge Challenger SRT Demon will have 315/40R18 tires rear and front, the widest rubber toruses ever stuck on a production car.

Dodge has been enjoying teasing us about the Demon with video, and they’re doing it again:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDJip8RHn-8

Oh, the Demon is capable of doing a burnout? I never would have guessed. Seriously, this thing is basically a machine engineered to do burnouts that you can occasionally also use to pick up groceries, if you want.

According to GM Authority, the old record holder for widest front tires was the 2013 Chevy Camaro Z/28, which had massive 305/30ZR-19 at all corners. The Demon adds 10mm of width to that, giving just over a full-size Subway footlong’s worth of tire width, all around.

These tires, Nitto NT05Rs, are essentially drag slicks with just enough tread to be legal. Hell, their website calls the tires “D.O.T.-COMPLIANT COMPETITION DRAG RACE TIRE.” Here, read the whole blurb:

The NT05R™ is a D.O.T.-compliant competition drag radial designed for serious drag racing enthusiasts. The tire’s specialized race compound and large contact patch were engineered to provide maximum traction and promote even pressure distribution across the tread. The enhanced sidewall construction provides longitudinal launch traction while maintaining stability throughout the pass. You’ll get off the line quickly and down the track with speed and consistency.

The NT05R™ is recommended for dry competition use.

This car will likely be the first to be sold on competition drag racing tires.

These tires need special fender flares that make the car three and a half inches wider, and, even better, there’s a little Demon molded into the sidewall of the tire, just so you don’t forget FCA’s commitment to Satanism:

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--x1ow9UvQ--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/xluoqtbmnmujd6zhheut.png

The demon in question is suspected to be an incarnation of Dzoavits, a Native American demon associated with volcanoes and cannibalism.

Since it’s a rear-drive car, the front tires really don’t need to be as wide as they are, but I suppose Dodge is thinking that they can just act as spares for when you smoke your rears out of existence doing burnouts because you’ve lost all control.


http://jalopnik.com/the-dodge-challenger-srt-demon-will-have-the-widest-fro-1791648492

[ACRucrazy]

What Does The Dodge Challenger SRT Demon's Mysterious License Plate Mean?

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--bZucv3L5--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/qfsfgvdj6p73kfc9wjge.jpg

The new Dodge Challenger SRT Demon is like a Hellcat, only wider, faster and with more power. How much more power? Well, that license plate teased by Dodge might have the answer.

It’s not totally clear what the plate means. If you add ‘1' to both figures, you get 12.576@135—12.576 seconds at 135 mph—but that is a slower quarter mile than the Hellcat this car supersedes.

But it might not have anything directly to do with quarter mile figures, as very-friendly-with-Dodge-publication MotorTrend mused:

One curious Easter egg Dodge has left us to ponder can be seen in the photo of the Demon’s rear end. The license plate reads “#2576@35,” and with Dodge urging us to look for clues every week, there’s no way this is just a random string of characters. One guess for the first number is that it’s the new supercharger’s displacement: 2,576cc or roughly 2.6 liters.

The blower in the Hellcat displaces 2.4 liters (2,380cc). The “35” could refer to boost pressure, but 35 psi is a ridiculous amount of boost for a production car. The Hellcat runs 11.6 pounds, for reference. Technical director Frank Markus suggests it could refer to 35 psi of manifold pressure, which would equate to 20.3 psi of boost. That’s still a lot, but it’s slightly more believable than 35 pounds.

That is a lot of boost, indeed. Of course, that’s not the only thing it could be.

If you figure $2,576/month for 35 months, you get a not-surprising MSRP of $90,160, as our own Justin Westbrook and Tom McParland theorized on our office chat room. Jason Torchinsky also posists that the 2576 likely refers to HR 2576, the Frank R. Lautenberg Chemical Safety Act.

What do you think the plate means?


http://jalopnik.com/what-does-the-dodge-challenger-srt-demons-mysterious-li-1791648705

[BlknBlu]

The item on the license plate looks to be the cost of the heads on the car. as was listed on another side. I remember when Hellcats were cool....lol Factory drag radials, is way cool

Bruce

[v10viperbox]

315 wide and those tires and lower weight and a new hood and possible AWD. Way way cool. Its not the 400lb weight reduction rumor that was floating around but it is cool enough as it is.

[Boosted Motorsports]

Thats awesome to get another FCA branded tire! I know it's unfortunate the Viper is being phased out and that this shares the same chassis/body as a grocery getter V6 Challenger but it's still pretty damn cool to see a company shove over 700hp into this car...

[Purple Haze]

I'll wait for the 2020 Gen VI Viper...I really think it's coming back...If not doesn't cost anything to wonder...

[Boosted Motorsports]

AWD burnout marks as others have pointed out. You can see the faint overlay of a secondary lighter burnout patch.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--5jLoUfSS--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/qben7r90vjqa2qbahktk.png

[GTSgreg]

I'll wait for the 2020 Gen VI Viper...I really think it's coming back...If not doesn't cost anything to wonder...

I agree. Some executive will get bored without the famed super car, and it'll become an ego project again in the future.

[Stealth78]

AWD burnout marks as others have pointed out. You can see the faint overlay of a secondary lighter burnout patch.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--5jLoUfSS--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/qben7r90vjqa2qbahktk.png

Kind of funny because in the articles it states that it is "definitely not AWD".

[Stealth78]

Road & Track wrote "So, first off, yes, the Demon will be able to do a burnout, as we predicted. Also, it's most certainly not all-wheel-drive—that's not what an AWD burnout looks like. And if you listen, that's definitely the SRT Hellcat engine's 707-horsepower supercharged wail coming from this thing." I guess there is no guarantee but.......

[BlknBlu]

I don't think it will be AWD, I bet it gets shipped with a set of skinnies and barely has a back seat.

Bruce

[ACRucrazy]

I don't think it will be AWD, I bet it gets shipped with a set of skinnies and barely has a back seat.

Bruce

Yea that was my thought. Trunk kit of Skinnies made avail through Mopar for legal reasons and the fronts as spare rears or something.

[BlknBlu]

This will be a purpose built machine, would be nice to see gears with it too.

Bruce

[Lawrenzo]

I haven't noticed any mention of the transmission. Will it be available with a manual trans or just an automatic?

[sfm79]

I'll wait for the 2020 Gen VI Viper...I really think it's coming back...If not doesn't cost anything to wonder...

I'll be wondering right along with you.

[100]

2,576 lbs or #s with a 35 amp alternator to save weight or (;)35 special edition.)

[mattssg]

It looks like it's only having the drivers seat as a non-option... all other seats (including passenger.) are "options." they also removed some carpeting.

So it looks like it's going to be a hellcat with wider tires, a subpar audio system with 2 tweeters, no carpets, no seats, and probably a small increase in boost.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autos-sports/2018-dodge-challenger-srt-demon-drops-seats-carpets-to-cut-weight/ar-AAmtE5Z?li=BBisPVf&ocid=spartandhp

[BlknBlu]

Rumor, will be built at CAAP

Bruce

[ACRucrazy]

http://www.roadkill.com/2018-dodge-demon-wants-you-to-open-pandoras-box/



2018 Dodge Demon Wants You To Open Pandora’s Box

http://www.roadkill.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/DG018_066CLgqlf1nkdeq65rbfop6t2hjgeik.jpg

What’s in the box? Can we see what’s in the box? The list of things we know about the 2018 Dodge Demon now includes that it comes with a box, and there are eighteen items in the box including “track tools, spare wheels, and a Track Pack system.”

http://www.roadkill.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/DG018_065CLs6ri16qsqf9t3fpkgmbh90tlg0.jpg

The fourth teaser in Dodge’s water torture of information about its upcoming wide-tired, lighter weight, big fendered, mouse-munching, super-Hellcat Challenger is sort of like the campaign itself. We want to know the answers of what’s in the box. The theme of this round seems to be customization, as Dodge asks us to make choices about whether street manners, quarter-mile times, or road course handling is the end goal. We’ve all sort of decided that the new Challenger is a straight-line blister pack and the latest video and photos does nothing to disabuse us of that. We don’t know what is in the box, but we do see Tom Coddington‘s name plate on the promo photo showcasing the custom nature of the container. Coddington was a member of the Dodge Ramchargers in the 1960s–a group of renegade engineers who made the company’s reputation on the dragstrip. That said, Coddington also involved himself in the Trans-Am Cudas and Challengers, so there still could be the smallest chance that this is a corner turner.

“The Challenger SRT Demon provides a platform from which each customer can design their own ultimate “Street/Strip” muscle car. It’s not intended for a road course,” says Dodge.

Oh. Well then. Guess that’s settled. “Each customer can decide at the time of order, or once they own the car, or even on a moment’s notice that they want their car to favor street performance, drag strip performance or something in between,” the latest press release says. Ok, so, you buy one of these, and you get a box, and there’s something in the box that helps you get to the track? Is it an SRT engineer? That would be useful

http://www.roadkill.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/SRT_Demon_Widebody_rear.jpg

Dodge will reveal the 2018 Dodge Demon at the New York Auto Show, but you can keep up with the devilish gossip at www.ifyouknowyouknow.com, where fans and followers can get weekly updates, download sharable content and gain insight into the 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon’s engineering prowess.

Videos released so far:

“Cage” debuted January 12
“Reduction” debuted January 19
“Wide Body” debuted January 26


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88Z1UYuMAD4

[smhog]

Based on the new video, looks like you guys were right. A pair of skinnies come "in the box"

The wheels in the Crate video are 5 spoke. What are the odds these will match the wheels on the Demon?

[Stealth78]

The wheels in the Crate video are 5 spoke. What are the odds these will match the wheels on the Demon?

Good.... Very Good!!!

[Camfab]

It looks like it's only having the drivers seat as a non-option... all other seats (including passenger.) are "options." they also removed some carpeting.

So it looks like it's going to be a hellcat with wider tires, a subpar audio system with 2 tweeters, no carpets, no seats, and probably a small increase in boost.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/autos-sports/2018-dodge-challenger-srt-demon-drops-seats-carpets-to-cut-weight/ar-AAmtE5Z?li=BBisPVf&ocid=spartandhp

"If you ain't first, your last"

[Lawrenzo]

Looks like the Tesla "Jerk" will be stiff competition for quickest road car title- 0-60 in 2.28 seconds with a 10.5 1/4:dropdev:

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesla/model-s/2017/2017-tesla-model-s-p100d-first-test-review/?wc_mid=4035:5100&wc_rid=4035:1977312&_wcsid=6848D00B764B8547126522EAB2C8C7A97344C210888 E6790

[Ripper]

Looks like the Tesla "Jerk" will be stiff competition for quickest road car title- 0-60 in 2.28 seconds with a 10.5 1/4:dropdev:

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/tesla/model-s/2017/2017-tesla-model-s-p100d-first-test-review/?wc_mid=4035:5100&wc_rid=4035:1977312&_wcsid=6848D00B764B8547126522EAB2C8C7A97344C210888 E6790



Sick numbers for a 5000lbs+ 4-door sedan.. Wow