ACR GT350R GT3 RS Video Review

[#WhiteNoise]

hadn't seen this posted yet.... don't shoot the messenger!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oECafFch5mU

[SharpMan]

I stopped watching when they started complaining about ergonomics.

Harris vid is the only one that has mattered as he's the only reviewer that's had the skill to push the car and, therefore, provide any kind of real assessment.

[Snorman]

I stopped watching when Aunt Bee misquoted the GT350's horsepower rating. If you're not knowledgeable about the car you're reviewing, then you're not even worth the time to watch.
S.

[ViperJon]

They start with the proposition "today we're going to find out which is best on the track". Then they quickly get into things totally irrelevant for use on the track.
Lightweights wayyyy out of their league. Besides, don't the various track times/records already answer the question?

[stradman]

Its quite clear these people haven't really got a clue how to assess cars. I mean they bring the test to a track and title it "track day monsters" and then say the Viper is not really good for the street???. I mean you've brought the test to the track to assess track capabilities and then you judge how it is on the street.?? And then you go on to talk about the stereo and ergonomics?? WTF?? And also what are they talking about not being able to get the gear in?? I've got a GT3 997 and its no different really. And then saying the clutch needs a strong left foot. Again what planet are they on and what are they talking about?? And why the F**k do they find it intimidating? I can assure them it really isn't unless of course its the first powerful car they have driven in their life. Geez this review made me so mad!

[swexlin]

I haven't even watched it yet, and I can already guess what they're saying about the Viper......

[v10enomous]

I stopped watching when Aunt Bee misquoted the GT350's horsepower rating. If you're not knowledgeable about the car you're reviewing, then you're not even worth the time to watch.
S.

I caught that too but suffered through the rest of it anyway... haha

[Snakebit10]

Nothing but a puff piece for the Porsche. You could sense it from the very beginning. Porsche had the longest segment and its up against two yankee cars. Surprise!!!!

As Jon mentioned they started out about track car blah blah but where were the track times? Maybe I missed that. But I did notice a "drag race" between the three "circuit track specific" cars. This test had one aim. Porsche Porsche Porsche.

[TA Two Oh]

A 20 minute video, which included what seemed like 15 minutes of track footage and over 100 clips of them entering and exiting corners. Nary a single example of someone hitting their marks. Not one. Nobody using all the road at turn in. Nobody hitting a clipping point in the right spot. Nobody using all the road on track out. An no sign whatsoever of any of the cars being driven at or near their limits, except possibly during the drag race.

Three terrific track cars. A track. But no track driver. No wonder they got the answer wrong.

[v10enomous]

I have to admit that those 3 cars would be quite the trio I could see sitting in my garage. Although the Porsche is overpriced and the GT500 will be debuting shortly.

[Bill Pemberton]

Thanks for the reviews , now I don't have to watch this fluff piece and blow 20 minutes of my day! Much appreciated !!

[ACRucrazy]

I stopped watching when Aunt Bee misquoted the GT350's horsepower rating. If you're not knowledgeable about the car you're reviewing, then you're not even worth the time to watch.
S.

Emme Hall is pretty good with reviews. I've followed her for a few years now. As far as the HP misquote, it sounds to me like just a moment of dyslexia between 526 and 562. Even Chris Harris got the tire size wrong on his ACR review. (calling rear tires 335s)

Overall I enjoyed the video for what it was.

[Stealth]

For this group and this test, they should have used a loaded GTS with Laguna Leather, 18 speaker stereo and exterior carbon fiber advance aero (TA 1.0) and CF appearance pieces. This would have provided all of the performance, more insulation and more bling, etc., all for $50k+ less than the GT3.

[texasram]

I stumbled over an old video of an srt setting a lap time at the ring on youtube last week

[darbgnik]

A 20 minute video, which included what seemed like 15 minutes of track footage and over 100 clips of them entering and exiting corners. Nary a single example of someone hitting their marks. Not one. Nobody using all the road at turn in. Nobody hitting a clipping point in the right spot. Nobody using all the road on track out. An no sign whatsoever of any of the cars being driven at or near their limits, except possibly during the drag race.

Three terrific track cars. A track. But no track driver. No wonder they got the answer wrong.

I'm with Doug on this one. Give me 10 hours to generate footage, and edit it to death, and I'll look like the Stig. These guys look like they're on their way to Starbucks on a curvy road.

I'll be honest. I suppose I did learn a little bit about each cars infotainment systems, but did they have to rent a racetrack to show me that? And am I the only one who noticed the Hipster with the beard complained about how much effort the clutch and shifter required in the ACR, but the woman didn't? I'm sorry, but if he considers that clutch and shifter high effort, it's time to shave the beard and do a push up or two......

[swexlin]

I think the clutch is pretty light, actually.

[Eachey51]

Facepalm

[Boba Fett]

Facepalm

totally

[38D]

20 mins and they couldn't manage to hit a single apex tight

[zee]

Geez...tough crowd. I thought they gave a lot of praise to the viper for what it is. Sure, they said a lot of dumb stuff but it was fine. Not the greatest review but worth a watch just to see an ACR in motion.

[Dman]

I couldn't make it half way thru, just too lame. Nice camera work, but commentary is too goofy and off base.

[SharpMan]

I've got a GT3 997 and its no different really.

No kidding. I had a 2011 GT3 and you can forget about first gear until it warms up a bit!

[Dman]

The amazing thing to me about the GT3 is that it only makes 339 lb/ft of tq. My '87 mustang made 300 like in '87. What's amazing is how fast and quick it is with that tq number. Impressive.

[ACR]

Why get upset? The GT3 is more refined and easier to drive, especially with all the electronic nannies and pdk. Unless you are a track rat you won't appreciate a raw, work for it, car like the ACR. It's just irritating because vehicles like the the Vulcan get praised for being that (1.8mil)

[darbgnik]

Why get upset? The GT3 is more refined and easier to drive, especially with all the electronic nannies and pdk. Unless you are a track rat you won't appreciate a raw, work for it, car like the ACR. It's just irritating because vehicles like the the Vulcan get praised for being that (1.8mil)

I don't remember reading the majority of comments complaining about the results. It's just a terrible review, with terrible drivers, from a video labeled as "trackday monsters"...... The results are irrelevant, as they are subjective. I think, however, that I am correct, in assuming most people who bothered to click on the video, expected something completely different, like say, lap times at least? Or maybe one hot shoe between them?

[ACR08]

I'm always a little let down when they pick the car that is the easiest to drive instead of the car that allows you to become the best overall driver. It comes down to best technology vs. best driver's car. The GT3 has amazing tech, but the Viper will be the car that will allow you to challenge yourself and become a better driver. You might get bored with the GT3 at some point, but you will always have room to improve with the Viper whether that is the setup of the car or your ability to shift or drive a clean line. In the end, they are all cars I would love to own, but the Viper is the car I actual own.

[Snorman]

Why get upset? The GT3 is more refined and easier to drive, especially with all the electronic nannies and pdk. Unless you are a track rat you won't appreciate a raw, work for it, car like the ACR. It's just irritating because vehicles like the the Vulcan get praised for being that (1.8mil)I, for one, am certainly not upset. I find many of these reviews worthless. The one guy was complaining that the shift ball blocks "half of the controls" when it's in 3rd gear, lol. Because you usually drive around in 3rd gear, or try to adjust the fan speed while at WOT on-track. I think that sort of represents this review as a whole.
Apparently, the struggle is real.
21986
S.

[Ninjazx71]

The issue I have with all of these reviews is pitting the ACR against true street cars and then complaining about the creature comforts that have been pulled out of the ACR just to make it a track beast. What if they took a fully loaded TA2.0 or something and then did a review. Much better speakers, quieter interior, higher top speed, etc. If that's what they base their review on then at least make it a fair fight. Else just track the hell out of the cars and let the lap times tell the story...

[texasram]

The issue I have with all of these reviews is pitting the ACR against true street cars and then complaining about the creature comforts that have been pulled out of the ACR just to make it a track beast. What if they took a fully loaded TA2.0 or something and then did a review. Much better speakers, quieter interior, higher top speed, etc. If that's what they base their review on then at least make it a fair fight. Else just track the hell out of the cars and let the lap times tell the story...

A fair fight would be to pit it against the next track monster that comes out because its track king right now, all the hyper cars have been defeated, so just wait until a new beast comes out and then try to knock the king of its throne with that, that's why this review is useless

[Snakebit10]

IMHO we all expect the Viper to lose any comparo based on all around use, comfort etc. No problem there. But when you label a test as "track monsters", "best track car of bunch" etc and then your results have nothing to do with track times or technical prowess around a track then your review is worthless and baseless. You see an acceleration test but no test with what these cars are all about.

We all know that with a hotshoe in this trio the ACR would crush them with little effort. That was not relayed in this test because none of the reviewers had the ability to experience half of much less the full ability of the ACR. Or maybe this was just a Porsche commercial. It would be nice to see Harris flog all three and then declare a winner. I'm sure the Porsche will still win overall since it really is an incredibly well rounded car but at least Harris would show the huge gap in performance between the ACR and the rest. Heck the ACR lost to the Mustang in a stateside test so this review does not break new ground. More of the same from the automotive media.

[dewilmoth]

The issue I have with all of these reviews is pitting the ACR against true street cars and then complaining about the creature comforts that have been pulled out of the ACR just to make it a track beast. What if they took a fully loaded TA2.0 or something and then did a review. Much better speakers, quieter interior, higher top speed, etc. If that's what they base their review on then at least make it a fair fight. Else just track the hell out of the cars and let the lap times tell the story...

I don't understand why they never test a loaded GTC ACR-E with all the carbon and the nice stereo. It has all the creature comforts of a GT3, and would massacre it on a race track. It's also much more in line with the GT3 MSRP. The weight difference between an ACR and a GTC ACR is minute, and probably immeasurable in lap times. But none of this really matters, because the results of these tests are decided long before they ever lay eyes on a Viper due to its ages old stereotypes that no longer fit.

[swexlin]

But none of this really matters, because the results of these tests are decided long before they ever lay eyes on a Viper due to its ages old stereotypes that no longer fit.

This. Nothing more needs to be said.

[SharpMan]

I don't understand why they never test a loaded GTC ACR-E with all the carbon and the nice stereo. It has all the creature comforts of a GT3, and would massacre it on a race track. It's also much more in line with the GT3 MSRP. The weight difference between an ACR and a GTC ACR is minute, and probably immeasurable in lap times. But none of this really matters, because the results of these tests are decided long before they ever lay eyes on a Viper due to its ages old stereotypes that no longer fit.

They would if that's what the manufacturer provided. Media have access to "press fleets" and the manufacturers decide what to stock them with.

Some of the stuff online now features private vehicles but most of the "professional" content relies on manufacturer provided vehicles.

[Jprince]

All three of them together don't have enough knowledge to even drive any one of these badass cars to the grocery store. I'm not sure how they even figured out how to start them.

[ACRucrazy]

Emme knows her way around a car, truck, off-road dirt racer, etc. She's not some noob.

The video wasn't terrible. Sure it wasn't a very detailed Motor Trend breakdown, but not everything has to be. Some of the gripes in the video myself and you all don't agree with, but the Viper doesn't have to be #1 in every video..

They all had positive things to say about the ACR and some legitimate opportunities. It annoyed me Dodge sent out these pressers with $9,000 worth of stripes but left the shit 3 speaker system in the car and no rear carpet. We all know what the press is going to say after they drive it, so why not leave the overpriced rediculious stripes out of it and add some options like an 18 speaker stereo, red belts, brass monkey wheels and CF interior and exterior packages for nearly the same price that will generate some positive press when no one gives a damn about the overpriced stripe option...

[v10enomous]

The ironic part is that the ACR looks the most expensive and exotic of the 3 by far.



They all had positive things to say about the ACR and some legitimate opportunities. It annoyed me Dodge sent out these pressers with $9,000 worth of stripes but left the shit 3 speaker system in the car and no rear carpet. We all know what the press is going to say after they drive it, so why not leave the overpriced rediculious stripes out of it and add some options like an 18 speaker stereo, red belts, brass monkey wheels and CF interior and exterior packages for nearly the same price that will generate some positive press when no one gives a damn about the overpriced stripe option...

[Nine Ball]

Video cinematography was good. Everyone has learned to copy Top Gear pretty well by now. Reviewers were lame, especially the soft guy that complained about the shifter being in the way of the A/C controls and having to "arm wrestle" to shift it. What a bitch. Seriously. None of them were driving fast enough to be scared of any of those cars. Reviews like this are why no-talent no-driving assclowns think analog cars aren't any good, and they resort to buying their flappy-paddle nonsense.